Comments on: To Be Young, Gifted and Black is STILL Disrespected http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: free ipadhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-855309 free ipad Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:05:42 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-855309 <strong>Great blog...</strong>Thank you for the sensible critique. Me and my friend were just preparing to do a little research about this. We grabbed a book from our local library but I think I learned more from this post. I'm very glad to see such excellent information being sha... Great blog…

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]]> By: MssngLnkhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-370112 MssngLnk Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:53:25 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-370112 I think the real issues NFL teams have with Rolle aren't even about his extra-curricular interests, it's whether he can play safety in the NFL at a high level or not. That's hurting his draft stock, coupled with the year away, not that he's an egghead. I think the real issues NFL teams have with Rolle aren't even about his extra-curricular interests, it's whether he can play safety in the NFL at a high level or not. That's hurting his draft stock, coupled with the year away, not that he's an egghead.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-506855 Anonymous Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:04:00 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-506855 Not the first time - remember Robert Smith, first with Ohio State, who complained that he wasn't being given enough time to study? He sat out the 1991 college season, charging assistant coach Elliot Uzelac ordered him to miss classes. He went to the pros after his sophmore year, had a nice career, and quit in 2000, after being named the league's 2nd leading rusher that year - because "he no longer found the running back position "intellectually stimulating". Glad to know he's not alone! Not the first time – remember Robert Smith, first with Ohio State, who complained that he wasn’t being given enough time to study? He sat out the 1991 college season, charging assistant coach Elliot Uzelac ordered him to miss classes. He went to the pros after his sophmore year, had a nice career, and quit in 2000, after being named the league’s 2nd leading rusher that year – because “he no longer found the running back position “intellectually stimulating”. Glad to know he’s not alone!

]]> By: Daisy Kingstonhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-368239 Daisy Kingston Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:42:29 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-368239 They don't want players who have options in life. Someone with options isn't going take crap from anyone. They don't want players who have options in life. Someone with options isn't going take crap from anyone.

]]> By: envirohttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-368236 enviro Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:41:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-368236 This just makes me want to cry. I see the sick logic of it but that's just what it is, sick. What kind of a society are we living in where someone needs to worry that his aspirations to be a doctor may harm his football career? Shouldn't it be the other way around? The young man is obviously very intelligent -- I hope he makes this decision wisely. The way our society rewards different kinds of achievement makes it hard though. This just makes me want to cry. I see the sick logic of it but that's just what it is, sick. What kind of a society are we living in where someone needs to worry that his aspirations to be a doctor may harm his football career? Shouldn't it be the other way around? The young man is obviously very intelligent — I hope he makes this decision wisely. The way our society rewards different kinds of achievement makes it hard though.

]]> By: NetNoir.comhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367950 NetNoir.com Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:50:15 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367950 While I think it is unfortunate; however, realistically Rolle is in an enviable position. His stature as a student athlete significantly raised his profile in his pursuit of the Rhodes Scholarship, something that has been followed by the Quarterback at Alabama <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/14503/mcelroy-wisely-announces-decision-to-apply-for-rhodes-scholarship" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/...</a>. <br><br>Realistically, the owners and coaches want athletes that are going to stick to their team. In college it would be deplorable to bench an athlete based on a commitment to scholarship -- in the NFL (pause) well they are paying you millions of dollars. <br><br>In addition, to call pro athletes slaves is a ridiculously paternalistic mentality that abrogates the responsibility the athlete, and/or parent has to make decisions. <br><br>[It's similar to calling senators and congressional members "public servants" as though they are making some amazing sacrifice given the way so many of them cash in after leaving office (or on book deals while in office).]<br><br>Honestly, I can see how it is a hard decision to play in the NFL if he wants to be a doctor, given the Rhodes stamp of approval he'd have his choice of Harvard or Hopkins -- perhaps even for an MSTP program which would pay for his degree. <br><br>In 7-9 years he could be making high six figures for the rest of his life, as opposed to an immediate 5-10 years of making high six figures in the NFL. <br><br>At some point in life choices need to be made, and those will impact other opportunities. <br><br>However, I don't see this as different than two-sport athletes, they have the same knock against them in a draft. A team like Oakland wants to know you will really come play for their sorry squad LOL and not leave. While I think it is unfortunate; however, realistically Rolle is in an enviable position. His stature as a student athlete significantly raised his profile in his pursuit of the Rhodes Scholarship, something that has been followed by the Quarterback at Alabama http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/….

Realistically, the owners and coaches want athletes that are going to stick to their team. In college it would be deplorable to bench an athlete based on a commitment to scholarship — in the NFL (pause) well they are paying you millions of dollars.

In addition, to call pro athletes slaves is a ridiculously paternalistic mentality that abrogates the responsibility the athlete, and/or parent has to make decisions.

[It's similar to calling senators and congressional members "public servants" as though they are making some amazing sacrifice given the way so many of them cash in after leaving office (or on book deals while in office).]

Honestly, I can see how it is a hard decision to play in the NFL if he wants to be a doctor, given the Rhodes stamp of approval he'd have his choice of Harvard or Hopkins — perhaps even for an MSTP program which would pay for his degree.

In 7-9 years he could be making high six figures for the rest of his life, as opposed to an immediate 5-10 years of making high six figures in the NFL.

At some point in life choices need to be made, and those will impact other opportunities.

However, I don't see this as different than two-sport athletes, they have the same knock against them in a draft. A team like Oakland wants to know you will really come play for their sorry squad LOL and not leave.

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367867 CPL Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:41:02 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367867 Dear Myron:<br><br>Take yourself to Oxford and get that education. The NFL will still be around, and don't allow ESPN to talk you out of your dream.<br><br>My university didn't want me at Oxford, either; now they want me to talk up the experience because they're catching heat that not enough ethnics are signing up for those study abroad courses.<br><br>That Oxford degree will do much more for your than getting beat up in the NFL on an average of five to ten years, if you're lucky enough to stay healthy.<br><br>Handle yo' business - let the NFL make their money off of another illeterate coon who can't do more than sign his name on a contract that rips him off.<br><br>Sincerely, CPL Dear Myron:

Take yourself to Oxford and get that education. The NFL will still be around, and don't allow ESPN to talk you out of your dream.

My university didn't want me at Oxford, either; now they want me to talk up the experience because they're catching heat that not enough ethnics are signing up for those study abroad courses.

That Oxford degree will do much more for your than getting beat up in the NFL on an average of five to ten years, if you're lucky enough to stay healthy.

Handle yo' business – let the NFL make their money off of another illeterate coon who can't do more than sign his name on a contract that rips him off.

Sincerely, CPL

]]> By: ch555xhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367803 ch555x Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:47:37 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367803 Good points! Good points!

]]> By: MrNofacehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367796 MrNoface Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:49:51 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367796 I agree with you whole heartedly on this one Rikyrah. A professional football career is usually 10 years tops (where you are healthy and in demand). A man with a lot more to offer shouldn't feel pressured to limit himself to a job with such a short shelf life. Screw them all, let them have their Dexter Manleys. I agree with you whole heartedly on this one Rikyrah. A professional football career is usually 10 years tops (where you are healthy and in demand). A man with a lot more to offer shouldn't feel pressured to limit himself to a job with such a short shelf life. Screw them all, let them have their Dexter Manleys.

]]> By: blksistahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367794 blksista Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:37:52 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367794 If the teams possessed half the mind of Rolle, I'll bet you that there wouldn't be half the misbehavior and embarrassments in the NFL now, where some players are more often in jail than on the gridiron. If the teams possessed half the mind of Rolle, I'll bet you that there wouldn't be half the misbehavior and embarrassments in the NFL now, where some players are more often in jail than on the gridiron.

]]> By: RobMhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367789 RobM Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:29:25 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367789 Great Post! <br>It is the biggest problem w/ professional sports and colleges. Take away OSU football team and the school can't pay for their labs. Takeaway Georgetown's basketball team and they can't afford the law school. Great Post!
It is the biggest problem w/ professional sports and colleges. Take away OSU football team and the school can't pay for their labs. Takeaway Georgetown's basketball team and they can't afford the law school.

]]> By: DWS2http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367784 DWS2 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:57:29 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367784 Sounds familiar. I can recall when college players were discouraged from majoring in engineering because of the time commitment. SMH Sounds familiar. I can recall when college players were discouraged from majoring in engineering because of the time commitment. SMH

]]> By: Joshua Davishttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/to-be-young-gifted-and-black-is-still-disrespected/comment-page-1/#comment-367774 Joshua Davis Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:24:40 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=21754#comment-367774 Nas summed it up best rapping, "They're a bunch of million dollar slaves." Nas summed it up best rapping, “They're a bunch of million dollar slaves.”

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