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		<title>By: BuffaloSoldier9K</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/wednesday-open-thread-67/comment-page-2/#comment-334522</link>
		<dc:creator>BuffaloSoldier9K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you keep a people down?  You &#039;never&#039; let them &#039;know&#039; their history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep telling that history; read some great military history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn&#039;t for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read the book, ‘Rescue at Pine Ridge”, and visit website/great military history, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rescueatpineridge.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.rescueatpineridge.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you keep a people down?  You &#39;never&#39; let them &#39;know&#39; their history.</p>
<p>Keep telling that history; read some great military history.</p>
<p>The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn&#39;t for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read the book, ‘Rescue at Pine Ridge”, and visit website/great military history, <a href="http://www.rescueatpineridge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rescueatpineridge.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: BuffaloSoldier9K</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuffaloSoldier9K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you keep a people down?  You &#039;never&#039; let them &#039;know&#039; their history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep telling that history; read some great military history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn&#039;t for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read the book, ‘Rescue at Pine Ridge”, and visit website/great military history, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rescueatpineridge.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.rescueatpineridge.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you keep a people down?  You &#39;never&#39; let them &#39;know&#39; their history.</p>
<p>Keep telling that history; read some great military history.</p>
<p>The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn&#39;t for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read the book, ‘Rescue at Pine Ridge”, and visit website/great military history, <a href="http://www.rescueatpineridge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rescueatpineridge.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: PBomb</title>
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		<dc:creator>PBomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet again you are talking nonsense. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apparently, you don&#039;t know what socialism means. Not shocking though. Carry on with the nonsensical rants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet again you are talking nonsense. </p>
<p>Apparently, you don&#39;t know what socialism means. Not shocking though. Carry on with the nonsensical rants.</p>
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		<title>By: twg</title>
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		<dc:creator>twg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid for all those things you list with my tax dollars, first. I wouldn&#039;t pay for a bunch of stuff if not forced to(IRS). A bunch I would, but it&#039;s not an option to decide for yourself is it? You socialists are making the case that groupthink/socialism/government is infallible. What happens at the next election you don&#039;t agree with. What&#039;s the Liberal version of a Tea Party? A beat-down for dissenters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid for all those things you list with my tax dollars, first. I wouldn&#39;t pay for a bunch of stuff if not forced to(IRS). A bunch I would, but it&#39;s not an option to decide for yourself is it? You socialists are making the case that groupthink/socialism/government is infallible. What happens at the next election you don&#39;t agree with. What&#39;s the Liberal version of a Tea Party? A beat-down for dissenters?</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP</description>
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		<title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are those world war I pics of the Harlem Hell Fighters?</description>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mired in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x593077177/Questions-loom-over-Cambridge-police-review-board-s-power&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;local politics&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mired in <a href="http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x593077177/Questions-loom-over-Cambridge-police-review-board-s-power" rel="nofollow">local politics</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: aleth</title>
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		<dc:creator>aleth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has to be a line to this madness&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If that is the case Bush caused 911 by not following the memo period. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Its ridiculousness to the 9th degree, these people have just lost their mind. Politics is now a game nobody gives a shit about people anymore.</description>
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<p>If that is the case Bush caused 911 by not following the memo period. </p>
<p>Its ridiculousness to the 9th degree, these people have just lost their mind. Politics is now a game nobody gives a shit about people anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ever happened to the panel that was supposed to examine this case?</description>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A record 25 college football coaches make $2-million a year or more, while the average salary of head football coaches in the NCAA&#039;s Division I-A has grown to $1.36-million, according to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-11-09-coaches-salary-analysis_N.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new survey by &lt;em&gt;USA Today.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; The number who earn at least $2-million is more than double the number from two years ago. Assistant coaches are also making out well: In its first examination of those salaries, &lt;em&gt;USA Today&lt;/em&gt; found that at least 66 assistants make in excess of $300,000, including one, the University of Tennessee&#039;s Monte Kiffin, who makes $1.2-million. The survey includes a &lt;a &lt;br&gt;href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-coaches-contracts-database.htm&quot;&gt;database&lt;/a&gt; of head and assistant coaches&#039; salaries at the 120 institutions in Division I-A and a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/video/index.htm?bctid=49465397001#New%20Mexico%20State%20football%20coach%20logs%2018%2Dhour%20workdays/49465397001&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;video&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;on a day in the life of an assistant coach at New Mexico State University.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot; href=&quot;http://chronicle.com/blogPost/The-Economy-Is-Down-but/8791/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Economy Is Down, but College Football Coaches&#039; Salaries Are Up&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A record 25 college football coaches make $2-million a year or more, while the average salary of head football coaches in the NCAA&#39;s Division I-A has grown to $1.36-million, according to a <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-11-09-coaches-salary-analysis_N.htm" rel="nofollow">new survey by <em>USA Today.</em></a> The number who earn at least $2-million is more than double the number from two years ago. Assistant coaches are also making out well: In its first examination of those salaries, <em>USA Today</em> found that at least 66 assistants make in excess of $300,000, including one, the University of Tennessee&#39;s Monte Kiffin, who makes $1.2-million. The survey includes a &lt;a <br />href=&#8221;http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-coaches-contracts-database.htm&#8221;&gt;database of head and assistant coaches&#39; salaries at the 120 institutions in Division I-A and a <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/video/index.htm?bctid=49465397001#New%20Mexico%20State%20football%20coach%20logs%2018%2Dhour%20workdays/49465397001" rel="nofollow">video</a> <br />on a day in the life of an assistant coach at New Mexico State University.</p>
<p><a style="font-weight: bold" href="http://chronicle.com/blogPost/The-Economy-Is-Down-but/8791/" rel="nofollow">The Economy Is Down, but College Football Coaches&#39; Salaries Are Up</a></p>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Morehouse College recently announced 11 rules for how students should dress, it was No. 9 that got all the attention. That&#039;s the rule forbidding students at the all-male, historically black college from wearing women&#039;s clothes, including dresses, tunics, and pumps. Critics said the move was intolerant, even homophobic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lost in the cross-dressing controversy was an underlying issue: Why have a dress code in the first place? While most campuses long ago surrendered to T-shirts and sweats, a number of historically black colleges have been mounting a new offensive in the war on slovenly attire. Call it Operation Pull Up Your Pants.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Paul Quinn College was among the first. When Michael J. Sorrell took over as president in 2007, he didn&#039;t like what he saw. &quot;It was pretty apparent that our students were dressing in a manner that was unsatisfactory,&quot; says Mr. Sorrell, noting the popularity of flip-flops and T-shirts. &quot;It was frankly embarrassing when we brought prospective students and donors to campus.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now if students don&#039;t meet the college&#039;s &quot;business casual&quot; standard, they have a choice: Pay a $100 fine or go jogging with Mr. Sorrell early on Saturday morning. At the beginning of the semester, most students choose the fine; later on, when they start worrying about the tuition bill, Mr. Sorrell has no shortage of running companions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In order to help students who can&#039;t afford more formal duds, the college set up a free-clothes closet. Donations from alumni and others have included lots of polo shirts and even some Armani suits. &quot;We have the best-dressed students in the country,&quot; says Mr. Sorrell. &quot;Nice and clean is an everyday occurrence at Paul Quinn.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Savannah State University&#039;s dress code went into effect last year. The university bans &quot;any shirt that exposes bare midriff or bare back&quot; along with &quot;undershirts customarily worn as undergarments.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the biggest problem, according to Irvin Clark, vice president for student affairs, is from the waist down. &quot;I have seen students with pants down almost to their knees,&quot; he says, &quot;and what they have under it is less than desirable.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Attempts to enforce the policy have met with mixed results. Those efforts mostly consist of Mr. Clark and other administrators instructing students to hoist their trousers. &quot;I&#039;ll roll down the window and say, &#039;Hey, young man, pull up your pants!&#039;&quot; Mr. Clark explains. &quot;But if I turn the corner and come back, the pants will be sagging again.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Proper dress is discussed at Savannah State&#039;s undergraduate etiquette classes, which are held twice a month. For Mr. Clark, it&#039;s about more than creating a better campus image—it&#039;s also about preparing students for their postcollege careers. &quot;If I went to my dentist and he was sagging, I think I&#039;d go find another dentist,&quot; he says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://chronicle.com/article/Black-Colleges-React-to-Low/49071&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Colleges React to Low Point in Fashion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Morehouse College recently announced 11 rules for how students should dress, it was No. 9 that got all the attention. That&#39;s the rule forbidding students at the all-male, historically black college from wearing women&#39;s clothes, including dresses, tunics, and pumps. Critics said the move was intolerant, even homophobic.</p>
<p>Lost in the cross-dressing controversy was an underlying issue: Why have a dress code in the first place? While most campuses long ago surrendered to T-shirts and sweats, a number of historically black colleges have been mounting a new offensive in the war on slovenly attire. Call it Operation Pull Up Your Pants.</p>
<p>Paul Quinn College was among the first. When Michael J. Sorrell took over as president in 2007, he didn&#39;t like what he saw. &#8220;It was pretty apparent that our students were dressing in a manner that was unsatisfactory,&#8221; says Mr. Sorrell, noting the popularity of flip-flops and T-shirts. &#8220;It was frankly embarrassing when we brought prospective students and donors to campus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now if students don&#39;t meet the college&#39;s &#8220;business casual&#8221; standard, they have a choice: Pay a $100 fine or go jogging with Mr. Sorrell early on Saturday morning. At the beginning of the semester, most students choose the fine; later on, when they start worrying about the tuition bill, Mr. Sorrell has no shortage of running companions.</p>
<p>In order to help students who can&#39;t afford more formal duds, the college set up a free-clothes closet. Donations from alumni and others have included lots of polo shirts and even some Armani suits. &#8220;We have the best-dressed students in the country,&#8221; says Mr. Sorrell. &#8220;Nice and clean is an everyday occurrence at Paul Quinn.&#8221;</p>
<p>Savannah State University&#39;s dress code went into effect last year. The university bans &#8220;any shirt that exposes bare midriff or bare back&#8221; along with &#8220;undershirts customarily worn as undergarments.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the biggest problem, according to Irvin Clark, vice president for student affairs, is from the waist down. &#8220;I have seen students with pants down almost to their knees,&#8221; he says, &#8220;and what they have under it is less than desirable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Attempts to enforce the policy have met with mixed results. Those efforts mostly consist of Mr. Clark and other administrators instructing students to hoist their trousers. &#8220;I&#39;ll roll down the window and say, &#39;Hey, young man, pull up your pants!&#39;&#8221; Mr. Clark explains. &#8220;But if I turn the corner and come back, the pants will be sagging again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Proper dress is discussed at Savannah State&#39;s undergraduate etiquette classes, which are held twice a month. For Mr. Clark, it&#39;s about more than creating a better campus image—it&#39;s also about preparing students for their postcollege careers. &#8220;If I went to my dentist and he was sagging, I think I&#39;d go find another dentist,&#8221; he says.</p>
<p><b><a href="http://chronicle.com/article/Black-Colleges-React-to-Low/49071" rel="nofollow">Black Colleges React to Low Point in Fashion</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Guns3000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guns3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have you been Young Rukus?</description>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and, later on, launched a massive advertising campaign&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, it wasn&#039;t exactly &quot;massive&quot;, and I used the past tense because I haven&#039;t seen any of the ads for a little while, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and, later on, launched a massive advertising campaign&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, it wasn&#39;t exactly &#8220;massive&#8221;, and I used the past tense because I haven&#39;t seen any of the ads for a little while, now.</p>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not? Gates and Crowley were spotted together in a Cambridge bar w/o PBO.</description>
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		<title>By: Guns3000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guns3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gore would have been a disaster?&quot;  So I guess that would make Bush a cataclysmic event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gore would have been a disaster?&#8221;  So I guess that would make Bush a cataclysmic event.</p>
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		<title>By: vulcan_girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>vulcan_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was one of the women in the facility he lived in.  From what I understand about the disease, that&#039;s not uncommon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was one of the women in the facility he lived in.  From what I understand about the disease, that&#39;s not uncommon.</p>
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		<title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that most declared gays are white, at least in the USofA.  In Islam, under Islamic laws - gays are executed (or could be)</description>
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		<title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother&#039;s Blue Cross advantage as an all in one plan is not being offered after Dec 21, 2009.  Not sure if this has anything to do with the health bill.   They are pointing me to Humana to get insurance for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother&#39;s Blue Cross advantage as an all in one plan is not being offered after Dec 21, 2009.  Not sure if this has anything to do with the health bill.   They are pointing me to Humana to get insurance for her.</p>
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		<title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/wednesday-open-thread-67/comment-page-2/#comment-311455</link>
		<dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right - now we will have to see if what happens in New York.  A beer summit at the bar?   Charge made to go away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right &#8211; now we will have to see if what happens in New York.  A beer summit at the bar?   Charge made to go away?</p>
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		<title>By: rorysmomma</title>
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		<dc:creator>rorysmomma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking the same thing.  They say he knocked the ish outta her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking the same thing.  They say he knocked the ish outta her.</p>
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