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By: AxelFoley

AxelFoley — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:02:42 +0000

You can be shown some of the changes that's come about in these last 10 months, but you'll just dismiss them anyway. You sound just like conservatives and “progressives” who try to be witty with variations on the “Is this change we can believe in?” bullshit.

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By: RobM

RobM — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:58:55 +0000

They will transfer it or it will die. but the idea you will continue to have it for free is what is going to die.

By: morphus

morphus — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:50:04 +0000

Corporations, newspapers and “journalism” are late comers to the Internet. Internet users found sufficient means to fill that gap to entertain themselves and exchange information. In the early days, the primary source of revenue was payment for access to Internet via an ISP. The efforts of newspapers to transfer their failed 50 year old cost models to the Internet will fail them again.

By: mon_dieu_ishmael

mon_dieu_ishmael — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:25:43 +0000

What has changed in Washington? Nothing – just new faces covered in lobbyist gravey.

By: mon_dieu_ishmael

mon_dieu_ishmael — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:21:29 +0000

Yes print is almost dead. And I will miss my local newspapers.

Content is not free. No free lunch. Someone has to pay for it.

By: RobM

RobM — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:02:58 +0000

Content comes from somewhere and that costs something to create it. When you pull up a newpaper in real time on the internet your cost and everyone else whom receives it that way pays literally nothing for it. If you had to pay for the paper on the internet directly you would be forced to change your habits and pay the real provider.
I am willing to bet you wouldn't read a damn thing Murdoch prints, puts on TV/radio because you wouldn't pay to read/see/hear you're a n@##$%. But for $50/month and spreading it across a couple of hundred providers for hours on end you are entertained. Hahaha did you see what this racist a@@#$%^ said.
So the argument isn't whether you read a newspaper or not but how you pay for the content of a newspaper if you want it?

By: RobM

RobM — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:50:50 +0000

I have to disagree w/ this, “Cost for content being extremely high is another corporate creation to rob Internet users.” Much of the content was created long ago and has become a very limited cash cow for them Just think of Turner Movie Classics. Currently w/movies the cost is sky high ($150 million + for Avatar). One down load saps millions from the producers and cost of distribution is nil. if that isn't leeching I don't know what is.

By: RobM

RobM — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:44:49 +0000

Are you or did you ever watch Alec Guiness as George Smiley on Masterpiece Theatre? The reason I ask is I remembered Alastair Cooke explaining that some of the dialogue was about insulting people. He went on to say Americans will not understand because so much of the talk was class and in England class talk isn't used by people from a different class.
It popped into my head because the line Very Good, Happy Christmas resonated here as insult but in England that is traitor class talk. Pyrce isn't going back to London cause nobody cares(here) what school he went to. It is even more amazing when you think about how important it has become in this country to go the right schools.

By: Miranda

Miranda — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:40:14 +0000

Isnt' it obvious?

By: RobM

RobM — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:25:27 +0000

On the whole I think the Army brass understands, the Air force doesn't understand, the rest of the military I am not sure. It is the ability to weed out the intransigent officers is the problem. Can they get it together I would say the odds are 40 60%?

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:11:17 +0000

AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:58:58 +0000

this is why I reacted so strongly to that Latino who wrote the post about President Obama right after the election, talking about the ' multi-racialism' of the Latino community, like Black folk needed a lecture on being a ' multi-racial' community, and we are the folks who claim everyone from the former head of the NAACP, the late Walter White, to comedian Bernie Mac, and everyone in between. more than often, we can see that racial rainbow breakdown in our own families.

my mother's family is an example of it. my maternal grandfather would have fit in walking the streets of Scotland - without missing a beat.
my maternal grandmother was Black ' as the Ace of Spades',and was often mistaken for the 'servant girl' when she went out with her own mother-a former slave-, when they walked the streets of the South.

between them, they had children ranging from chocolate to an aunt who could have passed for a red-headed White woman, and everything in between.

same parents.

don't even begin to try and tell Black folks about being ' multi-racial'. we accept it, because we've had to, because it's part of who we are. White folks have been a long time ignoring it, and wanting to deny how WE came to be ' multi-racial'.

By: Plantsmantx

Plantsmantx — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:56:51 +0000

Krugman:

Armey of Ignorance

In the midst of a seriously disgusting interview with Dick Armey, the former House majority leader offers his analysis of the financial crisis:

But at what point do we allow the government to order people that you must sell your product to this person or that person, irrespective of any good judgment? We saw what happened in housing when they ordered banks to make loans to people who weren’t qualified. Are we now going to have the same destructive influences in health care because we’re going to order doctors to provide services and so forth?

There’s a persistent delusion, on the part of many pundits, to the effect that we’re actually having a rational political discussion in this country. But we aren’t. The proposition that the Community Reinvestment Act caused all the bad stuff, because government forced helpless bankers into lending to Those People, has been refuted up, down, and sideways. The vast bulk of subprime lending came from institutions not subject to the CRA. Commercial real estate lending, which was mainly lending to rich white developers, not you-know-who, is in much worse shape than subprime home lending. Etc., etc.

But in Dick Armey’s world, in fact on the right as a whole, the affirmative-action-made-them-do-it doctrine isn’t even seen as a hypothesis. It’s just a fact, something everyone knows.

Truly, sometimes I despair.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/arm...

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:50:40 +0000

the Chicago school system is basically divided into two groups:

Neighborhood schools
The Magnet System

basically, that was the breakdown.

the jockeying for spaces in magnet schools is utterly crazy. watching middle-class parents trying to get their children into a good magnet school is watching clear politics. and, this is for kids who have actually passed the tests and gotten high enough scores.

the craziness truly begins when you have the ' lottery'. there are so many slots in those schools that don't depend on testing, but are like what it's called - a lottery.