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By: mon_dieu_ishmael

mon_dieu_ishmael — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:46:32 +0000

When white president Jimmy Carter was in office, he sent hundreds of millions of dollars to the black Mayor of Detroit Coleman Young. Likewise, the white Gov. Millikin (a Republican) sent hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue sharing to Mr Young.
And the Mayor of NOLA is/was Ray Nagin who got hundreds of millions from the feds before Mr Obama was in office.
ACORN got money from the Bush administration – for God's sake. (not to mention the monies from white run foundations.)

I think your statement is an over generalization.

By: D.

D. — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:21:03 +0000

Y'all started spinning early.

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:50:11 +0000

I live in Chicago, where we're past a HALF BILLION DOLLARS proven in cons and corruption .,…yet, NO investigation of King Richard II.

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:47:27 +0000

I continue to luv Town.

By: TruthSeeker

TruthSeeker — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:43:53 +0000

I love technical math!.. it's the most 'practical' and 'funnest' kind of math. And yes, so-called blue collar jobs require quite a lot of math, understanding blueprints, tolerances and measurement accuracy. Also, today's carpentry and tool making is done by million dollar numerical control machines that require a knowledge of geometry, and programming…It is not mindless, by any stretch.

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:41:49 +0000

AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP

By: The_A

The_A — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:40:31 +0000

uh, its not like Sheila is the pied piper of the black vote…

It was clear from jump she did this as a selfish business investment.

By: The_A

The_A — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:36:17 +0000

And my epiphany listening to both candidates last night – we keep saying we want public servants, yet we keep showing love to slick campaigns with hollow talking points.

Deeds is way to boring and folksy to get anyone fired up; however, the current Gov sold us out for a seat on Obama's party van halfway through his term. If the Clown wins tonight, you can bet he'll begin his 2012 campaign on Nov 4th, 2009. If Deeds wins, maybe politicians will finally understand that we want positive outcomes not empty promises on the way to the next big career move. (fingers crossed)

By: morphus

morphus — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:00:58 +0000

Hardly

By: mon_dieu_ishmael

mon_dieu_ishmael — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:46:32 +0000

I think your statement is an over generalization.

By: D.

D. — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:21:03 +0000

Y'all started spinning early.

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:50:11 +0000

I live in Chicago, where we're past a HALF BILLION DOLLARS proven in cons and corruption .,…yet, NO investigation of King Richard II.

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:47:27 +0000

I continue to luv Town.

By: TruthSeeker

TruthSeeker — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:43:53 +0000

I love technical math!.. it's the most 'practical' and 'funnest' kind of math. And yes, so-called blue collar jobs require quite a lot of math, understanding blueprints, tolerances and measurement accuracy. Also, today's carpentry and tool making is done by million dollar numeral control machines that require a knowledge of geometry, and programming…It is not mindless, by any stretch.

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:41:49 +0000

AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP

By: The_A

The_A — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:40:31 +0000

uh, its not like Sheila is the pied piper of the black vote…

It was clear from jump she did this as a selfish business investment.

By: The_A

The_A — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:36:17 +0000

And my epiphany listening to both candidates last night – we keep saying we want public servants, yet we keep showing love to slick campaigns with hollow talking points.

By: twg

twg — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:48:26 +0000

Last first; as an entrepreneur of sorts I will tell you that lack of planning and unchecked overhead kill many a business. I'm sure there will be many ways to minimize the impact of these new taxes, but this is sure enough a move toward the European-style socialism. On top of that, cap and trade, and it will be hard for me to earn my middle class living, or offer one to my 22 employees. I make less than some of my employees in order to try to grow the business in this challenging environment (meanwhile my wife is a GS 9 and got a raise......and is in line for automatic promotion)(AND she's on my insurance). Reading the bills I only see $$$ and $$$ coming out of the pockets of producers like me, and my employees have insurance.

Illegals will still get coverage as they do now (ER, I'm not opposed to anyone getting medical treatment), but they won't have to pay a penalty for not having coverage like everyone else even if they work and live here.

What you didn't say is that this is a de facto single payer system. Mandated insurance, automatic enrollment, penalties for not having coverage, insurance taxes on employers even if they have other insurance, government approved plans only......and on.

Best yet, the IRS is the insurer's collection agency. How do you think some folks are going to feel when their tax check is "rerouted"?

So, my take is too much government control, too fast. We can mandated some affordable plans, no pre-existing conditions, subsidize those who need it, even if this requires some taxpayer help. The takeover is socialist, and generally our government is proven irresponsible.