<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Saturday Open Thread</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:58:52 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Bluehost Sucks</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-716053</link> <dc:creator>Bluehost Sucks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:30:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-716053</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Good Blog Here...&lt;/strong&gt;[..]Whats up Folks here is a really cool web site I found [..]...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Good Blog Here&#8230;</strong></p><p>[..]Whats up Folks here is a really cool web site I found [..]&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Plantsmantx</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-335716</link> <dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-335716</guid> <description>Well, yeah.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-335714</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:05:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-335714</guid> <description>LOL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, you&#039;re serious?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.</p><p>Oh, you&#39;re serious?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-335715</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:01:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-335715</guid> <description>Um, I&#039;ve heard those groups, especially Latinos, refer to themselves as POC.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I&#39;ve heard those groups, especially Latinos, refer to themselves as POC.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-335717</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-335717</guid> <description>Yes, Karmi is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Karmi is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-335713</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:48:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-335713</guid> <description>&quot;I swear it look like he could kill some folks if he wanted 2.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOL, I see what you did there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I swear it look like he could kill some folks if he wanted 2.&#8221;</p><p>LOL, I see what you did there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Plantsmantx</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-315057</link> <dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:19:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-315057</guid> <description>Well, yeah.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-315053</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:05:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-315053</guid> <description>LOL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, you&#039;re serious?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.</p><p>Oh, you&#39;re serious?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-315054</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-315054</guid> <description>Um, I&#039;ve heard those groups, especially Latinos, refer to themselves as POC.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I&#39;ve heard those groups, especially Latinos, refer to themselves as POC.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-315055</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:59:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-315055</guid> <description>Yes, Karmi is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Karmi is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-315049</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-315049</guid> <description>&quot;I swear it look like he could kill some folks if he wanted 2.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOL, I see what you did there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I swear it look like he could kill some folks if he wanted 2.&#8221;</p><p>LOL, I see what you did there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Guns3000</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314921</link> <dc:creator>Guns3000</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314921</guid> <description>I was in Miami standing line at Burger King and this white woman gets in line behind me.  Then of all of sudden I hear, &quot;I&#039;m over here O.J.&quot;   Tired ass Guns ain&#039;t putting two and two together but then she started yelling even louder.   So I looked back because I heard a ruckus behind me.  All I see is big headed ass Orenthal sweating and in a panic looking for his blond hair blue-eyed &quot;princess.&quot;  True story. That&#039;s is one big man. I swear it look like he could kill some folks if he wanted 2.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Miami standing line at Burger King and this white woman gets in line behind me.  Then of all of sudden I hear, &#8220;I&#39;m over here O.J.&#8221;   Tired ass Guns ain&#39;t putting two and two together but then she started yelling even louder.   So I looked back because I heard a ruckus behind me.  All I see is big headed ass Orenthal sweating and in a panic looking for his blond hair blue-eyed &#8220;princess.&#8221;  True story. That&#39;s is one big man. I swear it look like he could kill some folks if he wanted 2.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Town</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314916</link> <dc:creator>Town</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:44:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314916</guid> <description>They make sure to lump themselves in when it comes to benefitting from affirmative action.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They make sure to lump themselves in when it comes to benefitting from affirmative action.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Town</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314915</link> <dc:creator>Town</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:42:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314915</guid> <description>And said white woman promptly dumped his @$$ when he got sent to jail last year.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And said white woman promptly dumped his @$$ when he got sent to jail last year.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314910</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314910</guid> <description>12 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.britannica.com/bps/additionalcontent/18/22484591/Black-firefighters-commemorated-on-911&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; VULCANS&lt;/a&gt; and many member of the NYPD and Port Authority Police who died were AA. &lt;br&gt;She should be arrested for slander in NYC alone. Hold her in Rikers w/ lost papers on a weekend.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 <a href="http://www.britannica.com/bps/additionalcontent/18/22484591/Black-firefighters-commemorated-on-911" rel="nofollow"> VULCANS</a> and many member of the NYPD and Port Authority Police who died were AA. <br />She should be arrested for slander in NYC alone. Hold her in Rikers w/ lost papers on a weekend.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: vdrome</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314906</link> <dc:creator>vdrome</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:30:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314906</guid> <description>Good point. Simpson played his black card and then went running back to the white woman after the verdict too.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. Simpson played his black card and then went running back to the white woman after the verdict too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PTCruiser</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314898</link> <dc:creator>PTCruiser</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314898</guid> <description>If Simpson had been charged where the murders had been committed, he would have been tried largely by a jury of his actual peers: affluent, upper-middle class whites. Johnnie Cochran didn&#039;t have diddley-squat to do with where the D.A. charged Simpson.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Simpson had been charged where the murders had been committed, he would have been tried largely by a jury of his actual peers: affluent, upper-middle class whites. Johnnie Cochran didn&#39;t have diddley-squat to do with where the D.A. charged Simpson.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Plantsmantx</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314885</link> <dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314885</guid> <description>&quot;You ask some black people why their neighborhood is fucked up and the first thing they mention is the white man.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...and if you ask some other black people, that&#039;s not the first thing they mention. Funny, but the sort of white person who wuould be most likely to cheer what you said would be the first to holler foul when they encounter black people who talk about us &quot;pursuing our own interests&quot; to the exclusion of the interests of whites as well as other people of color. But as long as you&#039;re talking about &quot;pursuing our own interests&quot; in terms of never partnering with other POC against people like &lt;i&gt;them&lt;/i&gt; qhen it&#039;s necessary to do so, it&#039;s back-slappin&#039; time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You ask some black people why their neighborhood is fucked up and the first thing they mention is the white man.&#8221;</p><p>&#8230;and if you ask some other black people, that&#39;s not the first thing they mention. Funny, but the sort of white person who wuould be most likely to cheer what you said would be the first to holler foul when they encounter black people who talk about us &#8220;pursuing our own interests&#8221; to the exclusion of the interests of whites as well as other people of color. But as long as you&#39;re talking about &#8220;pursuing our own interests&#8221; in terms of never partnering with other POC against people like <i>them</i> qhen it&#39;s necessary to do so, it&#39;s back-slappin&#39; time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: morphus</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314882</link> <dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:35:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314882</guid> <description>Again, that&#039;s not my experience where I found absolutely no interest in &quot;black causes&quot;. I have participated in groups with a range of backgrounds at the local, national, and international level. These groups work for the common cause of building a better future.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, that&#39;s not my experience where I found absolutely no interest in &#8220;black causes&#8221;. I have participated in groups with a range of backgrounds at the local, national, and international level. These groups work for the common cause of building a better future.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Plantsmantx</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/saturday-open-thread-71/comment-page-1/#comment-314883</link> <dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:32:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=17491#comment-314883</guid> <description>&lt;I&gt;Why aren&#039;t Latinos, Middle Eaterners, Indians, Asians, etc. grouping themselves in with blacks under the &quot;people of color flag?&quot;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;They do, to some extent or another. Actually, I don&#039;t think the term &quot;people of color&quot; was popularized by blacks, but other people of color, and blacks don&#039;t use the term any more than they do. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;As far as there not being any common ground, and them pursuing their own interests, there is common ground, and most of it is around questions of civil rights and civil liberties. Where those things are concerned, they do show a desire to be &quot;lumped in with blacks&quot;, and rightfully so. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&quot;Asians and Arabs already run many businesses in black communities (hair salons, corner stores, grocery stores) yet how many live in those black community&#039;s and how many actually invest in them?&quot;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Point taken, but is that what we&#039;re really talking about? Yes, blacks need to own more businesses in and outside of black communities, and invest more in...black communities. In other words, how much can we blame them for doing that? Are you saying we should spurn them because they open businesses at a higher rate than we do? It seems as if by &quot;persuing their own interests&quot;, you really mean &quot;not totally dedicated to our interests&quot;. If that&#039;s the case, why would you expect them to be? And...it&#039;s not as if we are totally dedicated to their interests, either.&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why aren&#39;t Latinos, Middle Eaterners, Indians, Asians, etc. grouping themselves in with blacks under the &#8220;people of color flag?&#8221;</i></p><p>They do, to some extent or another. Actually, I don&#39;t think the term &#8220;people of color&#8221; was popularized by blacks, but other people of color, and blacks don&#39;t use the term any more than they do.</p><p>As far as there not being any common ground, and them pursuing their own interests, there is common ground, and most of it is around questions of civil rights and civil liberties. Where those things are concerned, they do show a desire to be &#8220;lumped in with blacks&#8221;, and rightfully so.</p><p>&#8220;Asians and Arabs already run many businesses in black communities (hair salons, corner stores, grocery stores) yet how many live in those black community&#39;s and how many actually invest in them?&#8221;</p><p>Point taken, but is that what we&#39;re really talking about? Yes, blacks need to own more businesses in and outside of black communities, and invest more in&#8230;black communities. In other words, how much can we blame them for doing that? Are you saying we should spurn them because they open businesses at a higher rate than we do? It seems as if by &#8220;persuing their own interests&#8221;, you really mean &#8220;not totally dedicated to our interests&#8221;. If that&#39;s the case, why would you expect them to be? And&#8230;it&#39;s not as if we are totally dedicated to their interests, either.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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