<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Responding To The Progressive Obama Haters Not Quite One Year Out</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:23:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: property casualty insurers</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-582624</link> <dc:creator>property casualty insurers</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-582624</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Great Site…...&lt;/strong&gt;[...]check this out as this contains important information about[...]...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Great Site…&#8230;</strong></p><p>[...]check this out as this contains important information about[...]&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TruthSeeker</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-340850</link> <dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:43:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-340850</guid> <description>What proof is there, here?...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am sure there are rational arguments to potentially defend the President...this one isn&#039;t one of those arguments...that is my contention.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, re the author, I&#039;m referring to a post some time ago about an author, flogging her book.. when asked to talk about the book, she said that  you only need to know 5 words...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At that time, there were only advance reading copies available, and I don&#039;t think Jack read the book, while recommending it.    It seemed a comedy of errors..as is this harsh assessment of the &quot;nobody&quot; Zirin.   There are others on HuffPo to attack...why Zirin?    Why not Arianna?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just find the whole thing perplexing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What proof is there, here?&#8230;</p><p>I am sure there are rational arguments to potentially defend the President&#8230;this one isn&#39;t one of those arguments&#8230;that is my contention.</p><p>Also, re the author, I&#39;m referring to a post some time ago about an author, flogging her book.. when asked to talk about the book, she said that  you only need to know 5 words&#8230;</p><p>At that time, there were only advance reading copies available, and I don&#39;t think Jack read the book, while recommending it.    It seemed a comedy of errors..as is this harsh assessment of the &#8220;nobody&#8221; Zirin.   There are others on HuffPo to attack&#8230;why Zirin?    Why not Arianna?</p><p>I just find the whole thing perplexing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TruthSeeker</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-312540</link> <dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:43:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-312540</guid> <description>What proof is there, here?...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am sure there are rational arguments to potentially defend the President...this one isn&#039;t one of those arguments...that is my contention.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, re the author, I&#039;m referring to a post some time ago about an author, flogging her book.. when asked to talk about the book, she said that  you only need to know 5 words...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At that time, there were only advance reading copies available, and I don&#039;t think Jack read the book, while recommending it.    It seemed a comedy of errors..as is this harsh assessment of the &quot;nobody&quot; Zirin.   There are others on HuffPo to attack...why Zirin?    Why not Arianna?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just find the whole thing perplexing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What proof is there, here?&#8230;</p><p>I am sure there are rational arguments to potentially defend the President&#8230;this one isn&#39;t one of those arguments&#8230;that is my contention.</p><p>Also, re the author, I&#39;m referring to a post some time ago about an author, flogging her book.. when asked to talk about the book, she said that  you only need to know 5 words&#8230;</p><p>At that time, there were only advance reading copies available, and I don&#39;t think Jack read the book, while recommending it.    It seemed a comedy of errors..as is this harsh assessment of the &#8220;nobody&#8221; Zirin.   There are others on HuffPo to attack&#8230;why Zirin?    Why not Arianna?</p><p>I just find the whole thing perplexing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-311150</link> <dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-311150</guid> <description>I&#039;m late on this one, but not only did candidate obama never promise single payer, he explicitly said the following (paraphrased): &quot;If we could start from scratch, I&#039;d be for a single payer system, but we are decades beyond our ability to implement such a thing.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The candidate and the president have been consistent on promoting competition, controlling costs, de-coupling insurance from employment and a few other key values, but never ever single payer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m late on this one, but not only did candidate obama never promise single payer, he explicitly said the following (paraphrased): &#8220;If we could start from scratch, I&#39;d be for a single payer system, but we are decades beyond our ability to implement such a thing.&#8221;</p><p>The candidate and the president have been consistent on promoting competition, controlling costs, de-coupling insurance from employment and a few other key values, but never ever single payer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-311151</link> <dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:31:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-311151</guid> <description>still working on the font size. sorry for the delay</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still working on the font size. sorry for the delay</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shanti2</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309606</link> <dc:creator>Shanti2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:59:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309606</guid> <description>WEESeeYou, CLEARLY.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WEESeeYou, CLEARLY.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GreenLadyHere</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309589</link> <dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:38:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309589</guid> <description>RobM:   THANKS 4 this NOTE.  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shoot, I thought that it was my &quot;READING GLASSES &amp; I went and bought some with a higher MAGNIFICATION!!  :&gt;)    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Couldn&#039;t C any betta!!   :&gt;) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;***shakin&#039; my head***   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RobM:   THANKS 4 this NOTE.  :&gt;)</p><p>Shoot, I thought that it was my &#8220;READING GLASSES &#038; I went and bought some with a higher MAGNIFICATION!!  :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p><p>Couldn&#39;t C any betta!!   :&gt;)</p><p>***shakin&#39; my head***   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PBomb</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309577</link> <dc:creator>PBomb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:06:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309577</guid> <description>Please don&#039;t feed the this commenter. I have broken down several of this person&#039;s arguments with no reply back. No matter what factual evidence you prove and show, this person lives in la-la land and only believes ideas that fit their agenda. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s honestly a waste of time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#39;t feed the this commenter. I have broken down several of this person&#39;s arguments with no reply back. No matter what factual evidence you prove and show, this person lives in la-la land and only believes ideas that fit their agenda.</p><p>It&#39;s honestly a waste of time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Webb</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309570</link> <dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:45:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309570</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;We need to fight for the change we believe in. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We would be much better fighters for change if we were unified.  But how can I unite with someone who continuously fights (and doubts) my President?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My bad--you all at the Huffington Post are only acting in the best interests of All Americans, right?  Nope, you all are acting in the best interests of your web traffic and profits.  Sometimes, I don&#039;t know what to believe anymore...but I see you Dave.  WEESeeYou Dave.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;As a matter of fact, &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WEESeeYou Jane Hamsher, Jack, Jill, &amp; Arianna:  All Hugged-Up--Too Close for Comfort?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>We need to fight for the change we believe in. </i></b></p><p>We would be much better fighters for change if we were unified.  But how can I unite with someone who continuously fights (and doubts) my President?</p><p>My bad&#8211;you all at the Huffington Post are only acting in the best interests of All Americans, right?  Nope, you all are acting in the best interests of your web traffic and profits.  Sometimes, I don&#39;t know what to believe anymore&#8230;but I see you Dave.  WEESeeYou Dave.</p><p><b>As a matter of fact, <a href="" rel="nofollow">WEESeeYou Jane Hamsher, Jack, Jill, &#038; Arianna:  All Hugged-Up&#8211;Too Close for Comfort?</a></b></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MoObama</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309256</link> <dc:creator>MoObama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:02:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309256</guid> <description>Thank you. Can&#039;t anybody tell the truth? Deed was a bad candidate.  When Obama came to Norfolk people came to see him not Deeds. These politicians are lazy, they think Obama&#039;s political machine is going to show up and work to get them elected while they sit on the sidelines. The word is, Deeds didn&#039;t want Obama here but needed him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. Can&#39;t anybody tell the truth? Deed was a bad candidate.  When Obama came to Norfolk people came to see him not Deeds. These politicians are lazy, they think Obama&#39;s political machine is going to show up and work to get them elected while they sit on the sidelines. The word is, Deeds didn&#39;t want Obama here but needed him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CraigHickman</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-506603</link> <dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-506603</guid> <description>Obama is never above criticism, and he&#039;s received a lot of mine. But he has not flip flopped on DADT. He was against it during the campaign and he still is. Congress will have to overturn it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is never above criticism, and he&#8217;s received a lot of mine. But he has not flip flopped on DADT. He was against it during the campaign and he still is. Congress will have to overturn it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CraigHickman</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-506604</link> <dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-506604</guid> <description>Obama is never above criticism, and he&#039;s received a lot of mine. But he has not flip flopped on DADT. He was against it during the campaign and he still is. Congress will have to overturn it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is never above criticism, and he&#8217;s received a lot of mine. But he has not flip flopped on DADT. He was against it during the campaign and he still is. Congress will have to overturn it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MoObama</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309252</link> <dc:creator>MoObama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:56:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309252</guid> <description>WOW! you sure expect a lot in 10 months. And you are so turned off that you will not vote Democrat again...good luck with your 3rd party.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! you sure expect a lot in 10 months. And you are so turned off that you will not vote Democrat again&#8230;good luck with your 3rd party.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MoObama</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309250</link> <dc:creator>MoObama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:50:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309250</guid> <description>Thank you! And I never heard him say anything about single payer healthcare. He always said, we should get the same healthcare as the Congress, &quot;Choice&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! And I never heard him say anything about single payer healthcare. He always said, we should get the same healthcare as the Congress, &#8220;Choice&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Admiral_Komack</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309260</link> <dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309260</guid> <description>It means she doesn&#039;t know what she&#039;s talking about.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means she doesn&#39;t know what she&#39;s talking about.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Admiral_Komack</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309253</link> <dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:37:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309253</guid> <description>&quot;You probably took the fact that Santa Claus wasn&#039;t real pretty hard as well.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Santa Claus isn&#039;t real?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(sob) But who ate the cookies &amp; drank the milk I set out for Santa?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; (wails)  Darn you, LTMidnight. darn you to heck!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You probably took the fact that Santa Claus wasn&#39;t real pretty hard as well.&#8221;</p><p>-Santa Claus isn&#39;t real?</p><p>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!</p><p>(sob) But who ate the cookies &#038; drank the milk I set out for Santa?</p><p> (wails)  Darn you, LTMidnight. darn you to heck!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harold Eustache, Jr</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309248</link> <dc:creator>Harold Eustache, Jr</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309248</guid> <description>Obama has not delivered on MANY of the things we thought he would. Does he still have my overall support? Sure. Am I dissapointed? Hell Yes! The minute he get elected he flip flops on DADT. He talks about single payer during the election but then completely ignores it and makes a &#039;public option&#039; the liberal position. WTF? If we would have started with single payer, public option would have been the compromise. He is maniacally obsessed with getting bipartisan support at the expense of reform. He has continued renditions in the CIA. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I still think he is a very, very good president. I am proud. But he has flip flopped and although this site won&#039;t admit it (seems like you all are NEVER critical of him) he has not been very progressive and is skidish to govern fully from the left the way Bush did from the right.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has not delivered on MANY of the things we thought he would. Does he still have my overall support? Sure. Am I dissapointed? Hell Yes! The minute he get elected he flip flops on DADT. He talks about single payer during the election but then completely ignores it and makes a &#39;public option&#39; the liberal position. WTF? If we would have started with single payer, public option would have been the compromise. He is maniacally obsessed with getting bipartisan support at the expense of reform. He has continued renditions in the CIA.</p><p>I still think he is a very, very good president. I am proud. But he has flip flopped and although this site won&#39;t admit it (seems like you all are NEVER critical of him) he has not been very progressive and is skidish to govern fully from the left the way Bush did from the right.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-506601</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-506601</guid> <description>President Obama campaigned on universal health care, not single payer. They aren&#039;t the same thing, not even in Europe. Hillary campaigned on single payer. That was one of the few places that they disagreed. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama campaigned on universal health care, not single payer. They aren&#8217;t the same thing, not even in Europe. Hillary campaigned on single payer. That was one of the few places that they disagreed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-506602</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-506602</guid> <description>President Obama campaigned on universal health care, not single payer. They aren&#039;t the same thing, not even in Europe. Hillary campaigned on single payer. That was one of the few places that they disagreed. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama campaigned on universal health care, not single payer. They aren&#8217;t the same thing, not even in Europe. Hillary campaigned on single payer. That was one of the few places that they disagreed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: eclecticbrotha</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/comment-page-1/#comment-309249</link> <dc:creator>eclecticbrotha</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:17:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/11/responding-to-the-progressive-obama-haters-not-quite-one-year-out/#comment-309249</guid> <description>Great post, Jack.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I need to find Al Giordano&#039;s smack down of the liberal elite and post it here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jack.</p><p>I need to find Al Giordano&#39;s smack down of the liberal elite and post it here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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