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	<title>Comments on: From The White House: Rumors of flagging public option support &#8220;absolutely false&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.....</description>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!</description>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve a couple of questions because as everyone knows I believe the WH and President Obama do a shitty job pushing their agenda in a manner the public can clearly see.&lt;br&gt;One, was this pushed to you from whitehouse.gov or did you read it and post it yourself?&lt;br&gt;Two, if it was pushed did it come with instructions of any kind?&lt;br&gt;Three, if it was pushed how early did you receive it prior to posting as a blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack</p>
<p>I&#39;ve a couple of questions because as everyone knows I believe the WH and President Obama do a shitty job pushing their agenda in a manner the public can clearly see.<br />One, was this pushed to you from whitehouse.gov or did you read it and post it yourself?<br />Two, if it was pushed did it come with instructions of any kind?<br />Three, if it was pushed how early did you receive it prior to posting as a blog?</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
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		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just keep using every piece of data for Public Option that I can send and I don&#039;t listen to any of that stuff. I just keep pushing for Public Option and waiting for the final vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just keep using every piece of data for Public Option that I can send and I don&#39;t listen to any of that stuff. I just keep pushing for Public Option and waiting for the final vote.</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde</title>
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		<dc:creator>baratunde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff. I&#039;m right (or left) there with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff. I&#39;m right (or left) there with you.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An important distinction.  (And I also enjoy your blog.)  But whether it is support or fighting for an issue there are different tactics for waging politics.  Also different stages of the process require different tactics.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I truly think a lot of &quot;lefties&quot; have misread Obama and don&#039;t understand his approach (not saying this is you).  I&#039;m talking HuffPo and Open Left and Talk Left to name names.  They sometimes seem to want him to channel Alan Grayson all the time.  I can&#039;t tell sometimes if they really want good laws passed or they want political revenge against Republicans.  (Well to be truthful, given the tabloid flavor of HuffPo over the last 1-2 years, I&#039;m pretty sure they mostly want good political theater to drive up the clicks.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I for one am delighted to see progressives try some different approaches.  Getting into tit for tat arguments and insults with Republicans doesn&#039;t focus on issues, it distracts.  And that leads some independent voters wondering where the difference between parties lies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I&#039;m with Baratunde on this one.  I want to see this out of the Senate and in conference.  I will be interested in seeing if there is a tactical shift then.  But above all I&#039;m going to stay diligent but patient.  I have no crystal ball into the inner workings of the messy legislative process.  But I&#039;m also not going to buy into some of the naive Chicken Little diaries on the left blogosphere from folks who also don&#039;t have a crystal ball but don&#039;t know that yet ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/797100/-A-response-to-tonights-White-House-statement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/79...&lt;/a&gt; ) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An important distinction.  (And I also enjoy your blog.)  But whether it is support or fighting for an issue there are different tactics for waging politics.  Also different stages of the process require different tactics.  </p>
<p>I truly think a lot of &#8220;lefties&#8221; have misread Obama and don&#39;t understand his approach (not saying this is you).  I&#39;m talking HuffPo and Open Left and Talk Left to name names.  They sometimes seem to want him to channel Alan Grayson all the time.  I can&#39;t tell sometimes if they really want good laws passed or they want political revenge against Republicans.  (Well to be truthful, given the tabloid flavor of HuffPo over the last 1-2 years, I&#39;m pretty sure they mostly want good political theater to drive up the clicks.)</p>
<p>I for one am delighted to see progressives try some different approaches.  Getting into tit for tat arguments and insults with Republicans doesn&#39;t focus on issues, it distracts.  And that leads some independent voters wondering where the difference between parties lies.</p>
<p>So I&#39;m with Baratunde on this one.  I want to see this out of the Senate and in conference.  I will be interested in seeing if there is a tactical shift then.  But above all I&#39;m going to stay diligent but patient.  I have no crystal ball into the inner workings of the messy legislative process.  But I&#39;m also not going to buy into some of the naive Chicken Little diaries on the left blogosphere from folks who also don&#39;t have a crystal ball but don&#39;t know that yet ( <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/797100/-A-response-to-tonights-White-House-statement" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/79.." rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/79..</a>. ) .</p>
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		<title>By: dthomas_85</title>
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		<dc:creator>dthomas_85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because the Wh says the so called rumors aren&#039;t true, doesn&#039;t mean they weren&#039;t true or that the rumors still are not true. For all we know they are just doing damage control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because the Wh says the so called rumors aren&#39;t true, doesn&#39;t mean they weren&#39;t true or that the rumors still are not true. For all we know they are just doing damage control.</p>
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		<title>By: dthomas_85</title>
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		<dc:creator>dthomas_85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and definitely DO NOT believe anything from politico! They have a STRONG anti-Obama bias&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And this site has a strong pro-Obama bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and definitely DO NOT believe anything from politico! They have a STRONG anti-Obama bias&#8221;</p>
<p>And this site has a strong pro-Obama bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Dissenting Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dissenting Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we distinguish &quot;supportingt&quot; a public option and  &quot;fighting&quot; for it? &lt;a href=&quot;http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-releases-statement-supporting.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/10/o...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we distinguish &#8220;supportingt&#8221; a public option and  &#8220;fighting&#8221; for it? <a href="http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-releases-statement-supporting.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/10/o.." rel="nofollow">http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/10/o..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!</description>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve a couple of questions because as everyone knows I believe the WH and President Obama do a shitty job pushing their agenda in a manner the public can clearly see.&lt;br&gt;One, was this pushed to you from whitehouse.gov or did you read it and post it yourself?&lt;br&gt;Two, if it was pushed did it come with instructions of any kind?&lt;br&gt;Three, if it was pushed how early did you receive it prior to posting as a blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack</p>
<p>I&#39;ve a couple of questions because as everyone knows I believe the WH and President Obama do a shitty job pushing their agenda in a manner the public can clearly see.<br />One, was this pushed to you from whitehouse.gov or did you read it and post it yourself?<br />Two, if it was pushed did it come with instructions of any kind?<br />Three, if it was pushed how early did you receive it prior to posting as a blog?</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/from-the-white-house-rumors-of-flagging-public-option-support-absolutely-false/comment-page-1/#comment-305396</link>
		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just keep using every piece of data for Public Option that I can send and I don&#039;t listen to any of that stuff. I just keep pushing for Public Option and waiting for the final vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just keep using every piece of data for Public Option that I can send and I don&#39;t listen to any of that stuff. I just keep pushing for Public Option and waiting for the final vote.</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff. I&#039;m right (or left) there with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff. I&#39;m right (or left) there with you.</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff. I&#039;m right (or left) there with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff. I&#39;m right (or left) there with you.</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff. I&#039;m right (or left) there with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff. I&#39;m right (or left) there with you.</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff. I&#039;m right (or left) there with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff. I&#39;m right (or left) there with you.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An important distinction.  (And I also enjoy your blog.)  But whether it is support or fighting for an issue there are different tactics for waging politics.  Also different stages of the process require different tactics.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I truly think a lot of &quot;lefties&quot; have misread Obama and don&#039;t understand his approach (not saying this is you).  I&#039;m talking HuffPo and Open Left and Talk Left to name names.  They sometimes seem to want him to channel Alan Grayson all the time.  I can&#039;t tell sometimes if they really want good laws passed or they want political revenge against Republicans.  (Well to be truthful, given the tabloid flavor of HuffPo over the last 1-2 years, I&#039;m pretty sure they mostly want good political theater to drive up the clicks.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I for one am delighted to see progressives try some different approaches.  Getting into tit for tat arguments and insults with Republicans doesn&#039;t focus on issues, it distracts.  And that leads some independent voters wondering where the difference between parties lies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I&#039;m with Baratunde on this one.  I want to see this out of the Senate and in conference.  I will be interested in seeing if there is a tactical shift then.  But above all I&#039;m going to stay diligent but patient.  I have no crystal ball into the inner workings of the messy legislative process.  But I&#039;m also not going to buy into some of the naive Chicken Little diaries on the left blogosphere from folks who also don&#039;t have a crystal ball but don&#039;t know that yet ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/797100/-A-response-to-tonights-White-House-statement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/79...&lt;/a&gt; ) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An important distinction.  (And I also enjoy your blog.)  But whether it is support or fighting for an issue there are different tactics for waging politics.  Also different stages of the process require different tactics.  </p>
<p>I truly think a lot of &#8220;lefties&#8221; have misread Obama and don&#39;t understand his approach (not saying this is you).  I&#39;m talking HuffPo and Open Left and Talk Left to name names.  They sometimes seem to want him to channel Alan Grayson all the time.  I can&#39;t tell sometimes if they really want good laws passed or they want political revenge against Republicans.  (Well to be truthful, given the tabloid flavor of HuffPo over the last 1-2 years, I&#39;m pretty sure they mostly want good political theater to drive up the clicks.)</p>
<p>I for one am delighted to see progressives try some different approaches.  Getting into tit for tat arguments and insults with Republicans doesn&#39;t focus on issues, it distracts.  And that leads some independent voters wondering where the difference between parties lies.</p>
<p>So I&#39;m with Baratunde on this one.  I want to see this out of the Senate and in conference.  I will be interested in seeing if there is a tactical shift then.  But above all I&#39;m going to stay diligent but patient.  I have no crystal ball into the inner workings of the messy legislative process.  But I&#39;m also not going to buy into some of the naive Chicken Little diaries on the left blogosphere from folks who also don&#39;t have a crystal ball but don&#39;t know that yet ( <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/797100/-A-response-to-tonights-White-House-statement" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/79.." rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/25/79..</a>. ) .</p>
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		<title>By: dthomas_85</title>
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		<dc:creator>dthomas_85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because the Wh says the so called rumors aren&#039;t true, doesn&#039;t mean they weren&#039;t true or that the rumors still are not true. For all we know they are just doing damage control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because the Wh says the so called rumors aren&#39;t true, doesn&#39;t mean they weren&#39;t true or that the rumors still are not true. For all we know they are just doing damage control.</p>
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		<title>By: dthomas_85</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and definitely DO NOT believe anything from politico! They have a STRONG anti-Obama bias&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And this site has a strong pro-Obama bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and definitely DO NOT believe anything from politico! They have a STRONG anti-Obama bias&#8221;</p>
<p>And this site has a strong pro-Obama bias.</p>
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