Comments on: CNN’s Lou Dobbs to Black People: “I don’t want your excuses … quit whining.” http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:42:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: VictorianCatholic http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-339947 VictorianCatholic Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:14:46 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-339947 Black people have rejected the norms of society that they once were required to embrace: like marriage, and education, and working for a living. It is a fact that black people, by and large, consider marriage "too white". Black children and teenagers drop out of school at a far greater rate than whites, and the unemployment rate, not to mention the recidivism rate for prison inmates, is far higher among blacks than whites. 'nuff said.<br><br>And as far as New York being on "fiyah", that is some people's answer to anything they disagree with: Violence. Pitiful. Black people have rejected the norms of society that they once were required to embrace: like marriage, and education, and working for a living. It is a fact that black people, by and large, consider marriage “too white”. Black children and teenagers drop out of school at a far greater rate than whites, and the unemployment rate, not to mention the recidivism rate for prison inmates, is far higher among blacks than whites. 'nuff said.

And as far as New York being on “fiyah”, that is some people's answer to anything they disagree with: Violence. Pitiful.

]]> By: VictorianCatholic http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-298396 VictorianCatholic Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:14:46 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-298396 Black people have rejected the norms of society that they once were required to embrace: like marriage, and education, and working for a living. It is a fact that black people, by and large, consider marriage "too white". Black children and teenagers drop out of school at a far greater rate than whites, and the unemployment rate, not to mention the recidivism rate for prison inmates, is far higher among blacks than whites. 'nuff said.<br><br>And as far as New York being on "fiyah", that is some people's answer to anything they disagree with: Violence. Pitiful. Black people have rejected the norms of society that they once were required to embrace: like marriage, and education, and working for a living. It is a fact that black people, by and large, consider marriage “too white”. Black children and teenagers drop out of school at a far greater rate than whites, and the unemployment rate, not to mention the recidivism rate for prison inmates, is far higher among blacks than whites. 'nuff said.

And as far as New York being on “fiyah”, that is some people's answer to anything they disagree with: Violence. Pitiful.

]]> By: MackLyons http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-298250 MackLyons Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:12:15 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-298250 "This is no longer a civilized society. Blacks have rejected the civilizing norms which they learned from whites and are reverting to the "laws" of the jungle."<br><br>This is interesting. Time and time again, Whites have claimed that Blacks are "incapable" of living in a "civilized" (i.e. "White") society, citing the "laws of the jungle" and other concepts to make Blacks appear as savages. Not even "noble" ones at that.<br><br>This is how certain things like slavery and Jim Crow were justified in the minds of most Whites. They could feel better about what was happening around them and not feel the slightest of guilt, simply because they effectively dehumanized the very group of people who were being mistreated and exploited.<br><br>But alas, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. The Black community should take more responsibility in improving itself and uplifing others within it. Too bad Dobbs used this message as a delivery device for a crude racial hit piece against the Black community.<br><br>Of course he obliterated his credibility. But will anyone else see that? “This is no longer a civilized society. Blacks have rejected the civilizing norms which they learned from whites and are reverting to the “laws” of the jungle.”

This is interesting. Time and time again, Whites have claimed that Blacks are “incapable” of living in a “civilized” (i.e. “White”) society, citing the “laws of the jungle” and other concepts to make Blacks appear as savages. Not even “noble” ones at that.

This is how certain things like slavery and Jim Crow were justified in the minds of most Whites. They could feel better about what was happening around them and not feel the slightest of guilt, simply because they effectively dehumanized the very group of people who were being mistreated and exploited.

But alas, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. The Black community should take more responsibility in improving itself and uplifing others within it. Too bad Dobbs used this message as a delivery device for a crude racial hit piece against the Black community.

Of course he obliterated his credibility. But will anyone else see that?

]]> By: drawteel http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-298214 drawteel Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:17:54 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-298214 I agree, there is a lot of truth in what he said but the messenger (Dobbs) is tainted. If Bill Cosby had said it we wouldn't be having this conversation because we know his heart is in the right place. In fact Cosby has been saying almost the exact same thing for years and he's right! I agree, there is a lot of truth in what he said but the messenger (Dobbs) is tainted. If Bill Cosby had said it we wouldn't be having this conversation because we know his heart is in the right place. In fact Cosby has been saying almost the exact same thing for years and he's right!

]]> By: GrannyStandingforTruth http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-298192 GrannyStandingforTruth Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:37:32 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-298192 Amen, amen, and amen again! Amen, amen, and amen again!

]]> By: GrannyStandingforTruth http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-298186 GrannyStandingforTruth Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:35:28 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-298186 You good people at Jack and Jill have to excuse me but VictorianCatholic caused me to have one of those senior hood moments. You good people at Jack and Jill have to excuse me but VictorianCatholic caused me to have one of those senior hood moments.

]]> By: GrannyStandingforTruth http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-298184 GrannyStandingforTruth Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:32:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-298184 You would think that a VictorianCatholic would be too busy trying to clean up their Catholic's pedophile problem and wouldn't have to time to worry about what they label as the black problem. BTW, that was hilarious what you said about whites teaching blacks civilization coming from a group that is known for mass murders and thievery on a large scale all over the world. Oh yeah, and when are you folks going to do something about your 14, 15, 16 year old kids killing their mommas, daddies, and doing mass murders at schools? The pot calling the kettle black? You would think that a VictorianCatholic would be too busy trying to clean up their Catholic's pedophile problem and wouldn't have to time to worry about what they label as the black problem. BTW, that was hilarious what you said about whites teaching blacks civilization coming from a group that is known for mass murders and thievery on a large scale all over the world. Oh yeah, and when are you folks going to do something about your 14, 15, 16 year old kids killing their mommas, daddies, and doing mass murders at schools? The pot calling the kettle black?

]]> By: CPL http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-298073 CPL Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:21:08 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-298073 It would be "having guts" if Loudmouth Lou said that shyt in person in Southeast DC.<br><br>He said it from the safety of his television studio.<br><br>If he'd added "N-word" along with it, New York would be on fiyah right now.<br><br>Take this shyt to stormfront, where it's welcomed It would be “having guts” if Loudmouth Lou said that shyt in person in Southeast DC.

He said it from the safety of his television studio.

If he'd added “N-word” along with it, New York would be on fiyah right now.

Take this shyt to stormfront, where it's welcomed

]]> By: Plantsmantx http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297662 Plantsmantx Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:43:49 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297662 "I'm glad somebody - Dobbs or not - had the guts to buck the liberal media"<br><br>He didn't have the guts to say "it" on his television show.<br><br>"This is no longer a civilized society. Blacks have rejected the civilizing norms which they learned from whites..."<br><br>To the extent that there <i>is</i> a problem, I don't think that's it.:) Sort of the opposite, actually. There are too many things we <i>haven't</i> rejected. “I'm glad somebody – Dobbs or not – had the guts to buck the liberal media”

He didn't have the guts to say “it” on his television show.

“This is no longer a civilized society. Blacks have rejected the civilizing norms which they learned from whites…”

To the extent that there is a problem, I don't think that's it.:) Sort of the opposite, actually. There are too many things we haven't rejected.

]]> By: rikyrah http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297638 rikyrah Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:24:14 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297638 oh yeah...<br><br>FUCK LOU DOBBS oh yeah…

FUCK LOU DOBBS

]]> By: rikyrah http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297636 rikyrah Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:23:48 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297636 AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP

]]> By: RobM http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297608 RobM Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:05:31 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297608 Problem w/ what Lou Dobbs said is that he has destroyed himself as a credible commentator by his own actions. In isolation he has a point and would have been even more credible had he commented on where the African American community can help itslef and where our problems intersect w/ the larger community. Guns and drugs vs attitudes towards education is a clear cut example. Problem w/ what Lou Dobbs said is that he has destroyed himself as a credible commentator by his own actions. In isolation he has a point and would have been even more credible had he commented on where the African American community can help itslef and where our problems intersect w/ the larger community. Guns and drugs vs attitudes towards education is a clear cut example.

]]> By: Plantsmantx http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297600 Plantsmantx Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:50:06 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297600 Yes, it's always good to remember that these nativists don't consider us any more native than they do illegal immigrants. Yes, it's always good to remember that these nativists don't consider us any more native than they do illegal immigrants.

]]> By: RonnieB http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297597 RonnieB Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:41:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297597 The only problem with what Dobbs said is that *he* said. <br><br>Dobbs could care less about the Black community. He only cares about appealing to his closet-aryan demographic. The only problem with what Dobbs said is that *he* said.

Dobbs could care less about the Black community. He only cares about appealing to his closet-aryan demographic.

]]> By: Muzikal203 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297587 Muzikal203 Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:30:28 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297587 CNN isn't going to drop him any more than MSNBC is going to drop pat buchanan. CNN isn't going to drop him any more than MSNBC is going to drop pat buchanan.

]]> By: Town http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/10/cnn%e2%80%99s-lou-dobbs-to-black-people-%e2%80%9ci-don%e2%80%99t-want-your-excuses-%e2%80%a6-quit-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-297574 Town Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:15:13 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15708#comment-297574 Lou Dobbs belongs in a trash bin. Lou Dobbs belongs in a trash bin.

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