<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Wednesday Open Thread</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:52:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Scrapebox</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-610230</link> <dc:creator>Scrapebox</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-610230</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Great Site…...&lt;/strong&gt;Hey Admin , Extremely nice blog , if you need backlinks to your website I provide upto 10,000 high quality SEO backlinks for only $5. Check it out here :http://bit.ly/msweL2...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Great Site…&#8230;</strong></p><p>Hey Admin , Extremely nice blog , if you need backlinks to your website I provide upto 10,000 high quality SEO backlinks for only $5. Check it out here :<a href="http://bit.ly/msweL2.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/msweL2..</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DUI Penalty</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-529588</link> <dc:creator>DUI Penalty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-529588</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Here you go......&lt;/strong&gt;Interesting post %BLOGURL%. Here&#039;s a link for appreciation....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Here you go&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p><p>Interesting post %BLOGURL%. Here&#8217;s a link for appreciation&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: poker rakeback</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-340592</link> <dc:creator>poker rakeback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:04:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-340592</guid> <description>Love that song!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that song!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: poker rakeback</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-286637</link> <dc:creator>poker rakeback</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:04:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-286637</guid> <description>Love that song!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that song!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Miranda</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285595</link> <dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:59:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285595</guid> <description>You&#039;re right, it is not reflective of the WHOLE organization of tea partiers...but it is clear that the number of those whose animosity and vitriol is rooted in racism is way too high to pretend that its a small fringe segment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re right, it is not reflective of the WHOLE organization of tea partiers&#8230;but it is clear that the number of those whose animosity and vitriol is rooted in racism is way too high to pretend that its a small fringe segment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: morphus</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285473</link> <dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:40:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285473</guid> <description>&quot;I find myself wanting to do something about the ridiculousness of medical care, but not let Big Brother dictate.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That dialog is possible on JJP. There are plenty here willing and quite capable to address any angle on medical care and big brother.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I find myself wanting to do something about the ridiculousness of medical care, but not let Big Brother dictate.&#8221;</p><p>That dialog is possible on JJP. There are plenty here willing and quite capable to address any angle on medical care and big brother.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285442</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:13:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285442</guid> <description>&quot;...Drop those links. Engage in debate...&quot; Finding some common ground on healthcare reform couldn&#039;t hurt. Your eloquence and many others is wasted fomenting class envy. I find myself wanting to do something about the ridiculousness of medical care, but not let Big Brother dictate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Drop those links. Engage in debate&#8230;&#8221; Finding some common ground on healthcare reform couldn&#39;t hurt. Your eloquence and many others is wasted fomenting class envy. I find myself wanting to do something about the ridiculousness of medical care, but not let Big Brother dictate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pjamma</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285407</link> <dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:46:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285407</guid> <description>I might as well apply for the job because that&#039;s how I fill my day anyway.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might as well apply for the job because that&#39;s how I fill my day anyway.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: morphus</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285385</link> <dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285385</guid> <description>If you believe yourself to be a rose in the thorns of JJP, save your self and leave.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe yourself to be a rose in the thorns of JJP, save your self and leave.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285348</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285348</guid> <description>I&#039;ve gotten a good education on the philosophy leanings of those who frequent JJP. Racial equality, equal rights, social justice are only totems to be relished in public company. The real religion is about getting even (or better). Passing laws to dictate a more equal distribution of rights, services and resources is fundamental to our system now, like it or not; the fight today is only about how far to take it. The government already steals from us every day, in every way. Try not paying the taxes you already owe! You&#039;ll get free health care then, certainly (in prison). Redistribution of wealth might work for you, but I&#039;ll fight the idea in whatever form or forum you care to propose.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Slavery? Beating this racism drum is eradicating the pain of &quot;white guilt&quot; for many who did feel it. &quot;White entitlement&quot; is a useless slogan when middle-class America is broke. If President Obama ever utters these code-words, you know his regime is in trouble. You know this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now past the class-envy aspect, I strenuously agree something needs to be done with healthcare. Proposals: Allow anyone to join Medicare, after calculating the true cost of coverage. Subsidize those who need it. Mandate insurers offer a minimum basic (catastrophic) plan (standardized across the country). I&#039;m not in favor of mandating coverage though. Who will make sure everyone is doing their part? What kind of police-type agency will enforce it? Do you want the government to be able to go after you assets for a hospital bill if you let your coverage lapse? It stands to reason bureaucrats will be harder to negotiate with than an insurance company or hospital. After all they will have your medical, employment, tax, banking and other records. HR 3200 explicitly asks for your banking info by the way. I don&#039;t like the current solutions, but I do want to be able to take my son to speech, occupational, and physical therapy for reasonable cost. They charge&lt;br&gt; $256/hr now because I have insurance. Medicare patients pay $45/hr. New hearing aids for him cost $5k (not covered). Will you chip in, kind sir?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve gotten a good education on the philosophy leanings of those who frequent JJP. Racial equality, equal rights, social justice are only totems to be relished in public company. The real religion is about getting even (or better). Passing laws to dictate a more equal distribution of rights, services and resources is fundamental to our system now, like it or not; the fight today is only about how far to take it. The government already steals from us every day, in every way. Try not paying the taxes you already owe! You&#39;ll get free health care then, certainly (in prison). Redistribution of wealth might work for you, but I&#39;ll fight the idea in whatever form or forum you care to propose.</p><p>Slavery? Beating this racism drum is eradicating the pain of &#8220;white guilt&#8221; for many who did feel it. &#8220;White entitlement&#8221; is a useless slogan when middle-class America is broke. If President Obama ever utters these code-words, you know his regime is in trouble. You know this.</p><p>Now past the class-envy aspect, I strenuously agree something needs to be done with healthcare. Proposals: Allow anyone to join Medicare, after calculating the true cost of coverage. Subsidize those who need it. Mandate insurers offer a minimum basic (catastrophic) plan (standardized across the country). I&#39;m not in favor of mandating coverage though. Who will make sure everyone is doing their part? What kind of police-type agency will enforce it? Do you want the government to be able to go after you assets for a hospital bill if you let your coverage lapse? It stands to reason bureaucrats will be harder to negotiate with than an insurance company or hospital. After all they will have your medical, employment, tax, banking and other records. HR 3200 explicitly asks for your banking info by the way. I don&#39;t like the current solutions, but I do want to be able to take my son to speech, occupational, and physical therapy for reasonable cost. They charge<br /> $256/hr now because I have insurance. Medicare patients pay $45/hr. New hearing aids for him cost $5k (not covered). Will you chip in, kind sir?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Admiral_Komack</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285332</link> <dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:46:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285332</guid> <description>The teabaggers are asses.&lt;br&gt;Those three...they surround you. :-P</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The teabaggers are asses.<br />Those three&#8230;they surround you. :-P</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: D.</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285327</link> <dc:creator>D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:40:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285327</guid> <description>LOL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know two people on the list well, and have met a couple others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pete Hegseth runs our other mutual BFFs, Vets for Freedom...who put a petition out today that&#039;s along the lines of this letter. Bev Perlson runs Band of Mothers, a group of Gold/Blue Star mothers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(oddly enough, she introduced me to McDonnell at an event last summer)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.</p><p>I know two people on the list well, and have met a couple others.</p><p>Pete Hegseth runs our other mutual BFFs, Vets for Freedom&#8230;who put a petition out today that&#39;s along the lines of this letter. Bev Perlson runs Band of Mothers, a group of Gold/Blue Star mothers.</p><p>(oddly enough, she introduced me to McDonnell at an event last summer)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monie</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285324</link> <dc:creator>Monie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:33:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285324</guid> <description>Paul Bremer.....seriously?  where the hell has he been?  More of the same neo-cons who never served a day in combat, and did everything possible to evade military service......nothing new.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reading those names makes me vomit.&lt;br&gt;I see Mrs. Campbell Brown is included....no surprise...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m surprised John &lt;b&gt;&quot;I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. I considered the war in Vietnam already lost&quot;&lt;/b&gt; Bolton didn&#039;t add his smug ass signature to it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Bremer&#8230;..seriously?  where the hell has he been?  More of the same neo-cons who never served a day in combat, and did everything possible to evade military service&#8230;&#8230;nothing new.</p><p>Reading those names makes me vomit.<br />I see Mrs. Campbell Brown is included&#8230;.no surprise&#8230;</p><p>I&#39;m surprised John <b>&#8220;I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. I considered the war in Vietnam already lost&#8221;</b> Bolton didn&#39;t add his smug ass signature to it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: D.</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285317</link> <dc:creator>D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:23:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285317</guid> <description>I try to own my party&#039;s mistakes, as well as our successes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to own my party&#39;s mistakes, as well as our successes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: D.</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285312</link> <dc:creator>D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285312</guid> <description>Speaking of our mutual BFFs in PNAC, did you &lt;a href=&quot;http://foreignpolicyi.org/node/11818&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see this?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe you were right about the reboot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of our mutual BFFs in PNAC, did you <a href="http://foreignpolicyi.org/node/11818" rel="nofollow">see this?</a></p><p>Maybe you were right about the reboot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: morphus</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285307</link> <dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:13:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285307</guid> <description>ACORN made a move as early as Sep. 10 but that fact appears not to have been &quot;newsworthy&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACORN made a move as early as Sep. 10 but that fact appears not to have been &#8220;newsworthy&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monie</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285303</link> <dc:creator>Monie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:06:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285303</guid> <description>And stole an entire election in the process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama won decisively. PERIOD.  Acorn can, in no way, be credited with his win.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bush &quot;won&quot; by the skin of his teeth the second time; courtesy of those strategic &quot;security alerts&quot;, an ongoing PNAC mandated war which made many scared to change leadership and the same low down dirty Republican tactics that are used over and over.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And stole an entire election in the process.</p><p>President Obama won decisively. PERIOD.  Acorn can, in no way, be credited with his win.</p><p>Bush &#8220;won&#8221; by the skin of his teeth the second time; courtesy of those strategic &#8220;security alerts&#8221;, an ongoing PNAC mandated war which made many scared to change leadership and the same low down dirty Republican tactics that are used over and over.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AxelFoley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285300</link> <dc:creator>AxelFoley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:02:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285300</guid> <description>At least you admitted to it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you admitted to it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spirit_55z</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285291</link> <dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:53:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285291</guid> <description>Yes, a mini replica of the prez, cause that&#039;s exactly how he handles the frat boys.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a mini replica of the prez, cause that&#39;s exactly how he handles the frat boys.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: D.</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/09/wednesday-open-thread-60/comment-page-1/#comment-285286</link> <dc:creator>D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:44:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=15027#comment-285286</guid> <description>Sure am.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What we did, technically, was voter surpression.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure am.</p><p>What we did, technically, was voter surpression.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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