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AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP

Pete Wehner, like many over at the Commentary blog, suffer from Obama Failure Tourette's Syndrome...every few hours, like clockwork, they jump up and shout, "He's Failing! It's falling apart! He's cratering!"

Today's hilarious edition comes as a new poll shows that the President's approval rating has nudged up a bit to a very solid 58%. Not that polls mean anything at this stage of an Administration. This President is trying to do difficult things in both the domestic and foreign arenas. They are not whiz-bang things like invasions or tax cuts, the constant, irresponsible Republican opiates. They are the sort of efforts--health care, middle east negotiations, financial sector reform--that require the investment of political capital in the hopes of reward down the road.

All of these Obama efforts may come a cropper. His presidency may well fail. But I haven't seen him do anything as flagrantly irresponsible yet as George W. Bush's 2001 tax cuts, his co-President Dick Cheney's refusal to take Al Qaeda seriously before 9/11,  the furious effort to gin up a rationale to go to war with Iraq and the disgraceful neglect of the situation in Afghanistan--all of which Obama is trying to clean up now. And make no mistake, the cynicism of the more intellectual Republican commentators--pretending Obama's (and Bush's) Keynesian efforts to deal with the recession are the reason for momentous Bush deficits...plus the gathering effort to paint him into an Afghan war escalation--is every bit as toxic as the populist craziness sweeping the base of the party. I see lots of political tactics, not very many substantive policy suggestions, from the disloyal opposition these days.

Wehner fearlessly predicts that Obama's alleged unpopularity will lead to crippling defeats in the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial races, which will cause a lot of "damage" to the Democratic Party. Maybe so, but I've been doing this a long time--and I've seen Presidents come back from far worse. Bill Clinton lost the Congress in a 1994 tidal wave and won the presidency in 1996. George W. Bush approved torture policies that migrated from Guantanamo to Abu Ghraib and he still won reelection after the disgusting effects of those policies were revealed in the spring of 2004.

Of course, both Clinton and Bush faced uninspiring challengers. The Republicans are fairly deficient in the leadership department at the moment. Their potential candidates are cowed by Boss Rush--it was sad to see Tim Pawlenty, a good governor, make a fool of himself, pandering to the Boss, on the subject of health care rationing last week--"rationing" being the baloney euphemism for death panels among the non-nutter GOPS who still feel the need to fudge this issue. (And, as I've pointed out before, pulling the plug on granny is the last thing we have to worry about to so long as doctors are paid by the blood test, rather than salaries. Granny is a cash cow who needs to be kept alive.)

The point is, this sky-is-falling screeching is easy, painless and, occasionally, short-term, effective. But Republicans would be better served if they started thinking about policy rather than tactics--and their potential leaders started thinking about courage rather than fudge.

He's Cratering! Oh wait...Never mind.

What the hell?

Police: Man Beats Woman At Cracker Barrel
Stranger Beat Morrow Mom, Called Her Racial Slurs

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/20915187/detail....

http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/army-reservist-...

That's how it's going down now at the Cracker ass Cracker Barrel. SMH. And nobody helped the woman?

Just saying hi.....

Town-candidate forum in Richmond at VUU next Tues. Bring your questions....

Obama's on C-Span right now. He's speaking to the AFL-CIO.

Today's Conversation Whitney Houston Oprah Interview pt 1 http://bit.ly/Xg0kb

Today's Conversation Whitney Houston Oprah Interview pt 2: Drugs, Alcohol & Violence http://bit.ly/wE8Y8

Pete Stark should be the point man on healthcare.

From Wonkette:

“Mr. Congressman, don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining,” the wry wingnut declares, to which Stark responds, “I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg, it wouldn’t be worth wasting the urine.”

So I finally saw the Whitney interview with Oprah, she had a LOT of stuff going on while she was with Bobby, and she's letting it all hang out on Oprah. Mr. Brown is not going to be happy.

And LMAO@ Oprah acting like she didn't know how Whitney and Bobby smoked the cocaine if they weren't using a pipe and Whitney looking at her like "Come on, you know exactly what I'm talking about" before explaining it.

I'm trippin' off of Whitney acting like a drug snob, talking 'bout some, "I didn't do crack! I did cocaine!". LOL! That's like Ashley Dupree turning her nose up at Keishia Cole's momma, Frankie, or the Mayflower Madam looking down on Bishop Don Magic Juan.

I'm tripping off Whitney saying she was emotionally abused by Bobby....I saw "Being Bobby Brown"..........at the very least that's a two-way street! Hell, half the time I felt sorry for Bobby.

Smells like Clive Davis trying to clean up his girl again.

I watched "Being Bobby Brown" too, and figured out that Bobby was only 50% responsible for the phuck up that was their marriage.

Everyone in Newark could point out Whitney on the street when she went down there to buy her smoke.

Clive Davis cleaned her up and presented her as a goody-two shoes back in 1985 and he's doing it twenty years later, so she can turn into a cash cow again.

Oprah co-signing that bullshyt is one reason why I stopped watching her. She only made up with Terry McMillan to come on her show to talk about her divorce from her gay Jamacian husband after Terry clowned her when "Waiting to Exhale" was released.

I didn't see the show. What were they using instead of a pipe?

They rolled it up in the weed

What? So they mixed it with the weed and rolled it up like one would with a joint? I'm new to this whole drug thing...clearly.

The call 'em 51s.

Yep, apparently the two drugs "balanced eachother out", Oprah got THAT part immediately. LOL

If they balance each other out then isn't it the same as not doing the drugs? Like taking an upper and a downer just to end up right back in the middle?

Oprah should have said, "Whitney, darling, not all people smoke drugs like you do. I mean did."

Didn't Oprah admit to smoking crack during her 20s?

Crack didn't exist when Oprah was 20.

She did admit on her show that she smoked the pipe with and old boyfriend.

Maybe she had the prototype. BTW, I didn't ask if she smoked cracked when she was "20."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/139711...

Yeah! And aren't crackheads skinny?

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too late for me........roflmao

OMG ROFL

I don't know. I know there were rumors but I don't recall her saying it.

I don't do drugs either, never have, but I know how people roll a joint. LOL

Oh gosh this cracking me up this morning. I thought she would smoke the coke in a pipe too and I smoke weed! I had no idea that she would lace her weed with it.

I keep having visions of Chris Tucker on Friday clucking like a chicken because someone laced his joint. LOL

But Whitney she was not acting a fool. She was in her room reading the Bible.

The part about Bobby spray painting eyes all over the bedroom was nuts. . . They just had a crazy home life. I feel bad for her daughter for having to go through that (and for looking so much like her name-sake)

I thought that tidbit about the eyeballs was random as hell. Bobbi has had two fools as parents. I hope her relationship with her grandmother or other sober relatives are close ones. She has to have a really eschewed definition what is normal.

After last night's discussion of Gavin Newsom and his womanizing ways this seems only fitting:

For ABCNews.com

Former President Bill Clinton is backing San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom for California governor over state Attorney Gen. Jerry Brown, potentially upending next year's Democratic race to succeed Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Full article:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-bill-c...

Gavin Newsom? If he gets elected Prop 8 is going to back on the ballot in no time. He'll bring his whole left wing San Fran agenda with him. SMH

Bow wow wow yippy yo yippy yay...

Untied dog, out there walkin' the street...

Well Newsom and Clinton share a lot of the same character traits and he supported Hillary so I'm not surprised. Newsom has been a marginal mayor but thanks to Ah-nuld's complete eff up of CA I don't see how he'd do any worse. Of course I don't want to find out either way.

Who else it there? J. Brown? He didn't do much as Mayor of Oakland but he is a fixture in CA politics and was decent Governor the first time around. Will Feinstien finally run? Maybe big Willie can come out of retirement.

Or maybe Meg Whitman will pull it out for the Repubs. If she can bring as much money into CA as she brought into eBay I won't be mad at her.

Oh no Willie Brown sold out the few blacks left in SF.

Didn't Bill back McCauliffe in VA. Hopefully, his support will yield the same results in CA.

Wow. maybe we should ask him to come back to the Commonwealth & endorse GOP clown MickeyD

Maybe we should nationalize the banks.RobM your expertise is needed Professor Tim Congdon from International Monetary Research said US bank loans have fallen at an annual pace of almost 14 pc in the three months to August (from $7,147bn to $6,886n). "There has been nothing like this in the USA since the 1930s," he said. "The rapid destruction of money balances is madness." The M3 "broad" money supply, watched as an early warning signal for the economy a year or so later, has been falling at a 5pc annual rate. Similar concerns have been raised by David Rosenberg, chief strategist at Gluskin Sheff, who said that over the four weeks up to August 24, bank credit shrank at an "epic" 9pc annual pace, the M2 money supply shrank at 12.2pc and M1 shrank at 6.5pc. "For the first time in the post-WW2 [Second World War] era, we have deflation in credit, wages and rents and, from our lens, this is a toxic brew," he said. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopic...

Nationalization of the banks means the government takes them over and runs them like FNM or other quasi government business'. That is not what I want.

I want an FDIC liquidation. In that situation tw things occur. One the deposits, which are guaranteed, are given to other solvent banks. Two, the FDIC takes over the bad loans and other assets. They will then try to collect on the bad loans and sell the other assets.

This did not occur w/ the big insolvent banks like Citigroup. As a result the TARP money and the capital they have raised is being used to keep the banks solvent. Even if they have buyers of loans w/ good credit credentials, they will not loan because they are afraid that the loan will go bad and their insovency issues will come to the fore or the loan requires a capital hit that can't be met. these institutions are called 'Zombie Banks"..

These Zombies currently make their money by trading commodities, stocks, bonds or other things which are guaranteed by back door borrowing from the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK or other programs the FED offers. The effects of this are a continual downward spiral of economic activity; job losses, no sales, more job losses.

The FDIC liquidation is the best way to provide loans as the banks giving them will not be constrained by capital ratios to stay solvent.

Thank you

Before Obama is done, there will be nothing to "nationalize the banks" with, just a big pile of debt. MSM has been covering for him so far, but they can't do it for much longer. Its going to get really bad...we ain't seen nothing yet. At this rate, this next collapse is going to make the Great Depression look like an economic boon...

Look, you teabagging doofus I was asking an Adult.Not a crackpot who has a bad case of Obama derangement syndrome.

Is Obama the next Herbert Hoover? - The last President to initiate a trade war during a recession wound up creating the biggest economic catastrophe in American history. Yet the current President appears to have ignored the lesson of Herbert Hoover and the Smoot-Hawley Act in slapping tariffs on China and its tire exports while the economy struggles to come back to life after a deep recession. The Wall Street Journal wonders where Barack Obama is leading the US, or whether Obama wants to lead at all...

One, a trade war is a meme you are dragging up to distract from the real problems.
Two, Rupert Murdoch own the WSJ and is on record as opposing President Obama not a conccerned critic but an ideological fanatic.

IF THE WSJ is asking, then I say Obama continue what you are doing?

Is AxelFoley gonna have to choke a bitch?

BWA HA HA HA

Axel, please email me@ awareof411@gmail.com

Will do, spirit. My Yahoo account is acting up, but I'll e-mail you later today.

or shove an effin tennis ball down her throat.

This will be the last time I write this...maybe.

B----, don't *make* me take off my shoe.

LOL!

Serena is that you?

Oh snap.

LOL!!

hoooooooooold up, people. Kanye = Jackass/asshole. Agreed. But Serena??? Oh no...I will NOT let ya'll throw her under the bus for doing the same shit that John McEnroe got away with for years and everybody (i.e., white people) thought was cute and endearing. Fuck that.

let the church say, "ya-men!". plus, mr. monogram jacket cussed out the umpire yesterday during the men's final and he wasn't given any kind of code violation.


eff that!

Preach.

Exactly.

I respectfull ask all African Americans to read the following piece by Naomi Klein, and offer your thoughts, thanks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/sep/12/ba...

I read it. What she is saying is vague:
"So far, Obama has been unwilling to adopt policies specifically geared towards closing this ever-widening divide." Which ones is she talking about? Did this discussion fall to the wayside while our economy was bleeding out? Need more info before I believe this person...


"Almost all of the public debate about the conference focused on its supposed anti-Israel bias. When it actually took place in April in Geneva, virtually all we heard about was Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's inflammatory speech, which was met with rowdy disruptions, from the EU delegates who walked out, to the French Jewish students who put on clown wigs and red noses, and tried to shout him down." AND HOW IS IT THE FAULT OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION?


"The US civil rights movement had embraced the first Durban conference, held in summer 2001, with great enthusiasm, viewing it as the start of the final stage of Martin Luther King's dream for full equality. Though most black leaders offered only timid public criticism of the president's Durban II boycott, the decision was discussed privately as his most explicit betrayal of the civil rights struggle since taking office." Obama said this STRAIGHT UP during the campaign. He would not be the President of Black America, he was going to be President for ALL America. Again I really feel like this vague speak- the Civil Rights Movement? Who is that? I didn't even know there WAS a movement. Who are these people? Congressional Black Caucus didn't support Obama- they supported Hillary Clinton. Betrayal? The economy was bottoming out and he had work to do at home. It's not like he was playing golf in Hawaii. Who is this chick writing this article? Talk about paternalistic.


"The overriding message was that even though the most visible signs of racism had largely disappeared – colonial rule, apartheid, Jim Crow-style segregation – profound racial divides will persist and even widen until the states and corporations that profited from centuries of state-sanctioned racism pay back some of what they owe." So let me get this straight. Obama is supposed to be undoing ALL OF THIS in the form of REPARATIONS in his first 8 months WHILE we are in an economic meltdown, while the country is buggin the hell out that a Black guy is President, and while we also have a few wars going on too... lol... in a country where Sotomayor acknowledging her cultural heritage having an influence on her lens is construed as racism... lol WOW. I love idealism but this is like a an anti racist fairy tale.

"What is tantalising (and maddening) about Obama is that he has the skills to persuade a great many Americans of the justice of such an endeavour."Does she really think that making a speech is enough to change people's minds? Curb their fears? Unravel every nuanced bit of prejudice that took 500 years to produce?


"The crisis in African American wealth has only been deepened by the larger economic crisis." I agree.

"If Obama traced the Wall Street collapse back to the policies of redlining and Jim Crow, all the way to the betrayed promise of 40 acres and a mule for freed slaves, a broad sector of the American public might well be convinced that finally eliminating the structural barriers to full equality is in the interests not just of minorities but of everyone who wants a more stable economy." I agree as well, but does she REALLY THINK that Obama could reverse this in his first three months in office?

"In his Philadelphia "race speech", Obama was emphatic that race was something "this nation cannot afford to ignore"; that "if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like healthcare, or education, or the need to find good jobs for every American". Yet as soon as the speech had served its purpose (saving Obama's campaign from being engulfed by the Wright scandal), he did simply retreat. And his administration has been retreating from race ever since." I'm really starting to get pissed. She offers ALL of this criticism and without a CONTEXT of what ELSE is happening in the US. I have a question. WHEN THE FUCK WAS THIS WHITE CHICK THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. It's really easy sitting her blonde experience to dismiss the challenges he faces as a black man, or better the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT of AMERIKKKA.


I'll tackle the rest another time. Dthomas, how dare this white lady sit in judgement of an experience and a job she has no clue about. How dare she lay the issue that has been plaguing the US since its inception as the sole responsibility of the first Black President. Number 1: she may think of herself as anti racist- but her chastisement of this Black man is RACIST as hell. She gotta lot of freakin nerve. Number 2: her lack of context makes her sound like a wingnut. Number 3: I'm sick and tired of anti racists, civil rights people, and everyone else asserting what people should be doing based on THEIR identity. He was a moderate. He was always a moderate. Raging liberals made him their messiah but he never ever said or whispered anywhere... "don't worry ya'll Imma get us reparations." Does he think it? I have to say maybe he does, did he say he could accomplish such a feat on the campaign? No? It's like lighting a match and walking through a sprinkler. That idea will more than likely fail.

Here are my thought: Naomi can suck it. White liberal racist. I don't have the stomach to read the last 4 paragraphs. I apologize for the cussing but this article made me MAD as hell.

Oh boy.

Well first here is a link to the democracy now video where Ms Klein discusses in great detail her piece and everything that we have been discussing:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/14/naomi_kle...

I encourage you to watch it (only ten minutes) so there is no confusion about what she’s trying to say.

“AND HOW IS IT THE FAULT OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION?”

Ms. Klein did not say that the circumstances of the First World Conference against Racism was Obama’s fault, she was merely retelling the story of what happened because the first campaign was distorted by the media. The corporate media only focused on what happened with the Iranian president, and did not focus on everything that was going on during the Conference. What was excluded from the media coverage was the grass roots global movement for reparations.

Where she critiques Obama –and rightfully so- is that President Obama used the misinformation peddled by the media and others about the first World Conference against Racism as a lame excuse not to attend the event in 2009. He chose not to attend even though the Congressional Black Caucus went out of their way to make sure there was no anti-Israel sentiment in the declaration of the conference. And the TRUTH is, there was very little anti Israel sentiment at the first conference in the first place.

“Obama said this STRAIGHT UP during the campaign. He would not be the President of Black America, he was going to be President for ALL America.”

So attending a World Conference against Racism is Obama being president of Black America???? I would want any US president-regardless of hue- to attend such an event. Also, you do understand there were other countries that were attending with other issues to address that affected the US.

“the Civil Rights Movement? Who is that? I didn't even know there WAS a movement.”

The Civil Rights Movement is an ongoing movement that encompasses a variety of groups that have been fighting for equality for people of color since the early stages of the movement in the early 20th Century. The ROLE of the movement has changed as the economic and political condition of blacks has changed, but the movement still continues. She frames the reparations grassroots campaign as sort of a another stage of the movement.

“Congressional Black Caucus didn't support Obama- they supported Hillary Clinton. Betrayal?”

Actually you’re absolutely wrong about that- you need to get your facts straight. It was about 50/50. Some members supported Obama while others supported Clinton.





“Obama is supposed to be undoing ALL OF THIS in the form of REPARATIONS in his first 8 months WHILE we are in an economic meltdown, while the country is buggin the hell out that a Black guy is President, and while we also have a few wars going on too... lol...”

You’re way off now. Ms. Klein never suggest that Obama push through reparations by his lonesome or that he even support such an endeavor. Please show me where you read that in her piece. She’s critiquing Obama for ditching the conference and only having a voice about race when it is politically convenient to him.

“She offers ALL of this criticism and without a CONTEXT of what ELSE is happening in the US.”

That’s not true. She clearly is speaking about the economic problems of the US and how they disproportionately affect minorities. She also mentions the stimulus and how it may affect minorities. Is that not “in the context of what else is happening”.


“WHEN THE FUCK WAS THIS WHITE CHICK THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. It's really easy sitting her blonde experience to dismiss the challenges he faces as a black man, or better the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT of AMERIKKKA.”

Is Ms. Klein not allowed to critique the president because she’s not “the first Black President of the United States”? If that’s the case, no one would be able to critique Obama except Obama. Is that what you want? Maybe so. Why is her race such an issue with you? She did not criticize Obama with childish names and false accusations- just facts. Yet you have disparaged her in a very profane way because she provided a perspective with facts? This is the cult mentality that I am talking about.

Naomi Klein has offered criticisms and perspectives on all sorts of people and all sorts of topics, yet because she’s a “white chick”, she can’t offer her criticism of Obama? Maybe you should look at her history and read the books she has written about disaster capitalism (The Shock Doctrine) or the brutal capitalism of Nike (Logos) before you slander her in such a brutal fashion. How about you get a comprehensive feel for some of work before YOU DISMISS her.

“He was a moderate. He was always a moderate. Raging liberals made him their messiah but he never ever said or whispered anywhere.”

Yes he’s a moderate, but he campaigned as a populist liberal- hence his duplicitous nature.


Peace.

Noami's focus on the UN Durban Review Conference on racism as the true measurement of PBO's interest or support of AA's plight after years of policies against them ranks as hyperbole. How is it that the pressing needs of AAs in the US is directly tied to an international body?

Ms. Klein failed to mention the revamping of the DOJ's Civil Rights Division or concerns raised by Mary Frances Berry: The U.S. Civil Rights Commission Has Become ‘Useless Right-Wing Political Cabal’

"Noami's focus on the UN Durban Review Conference on racism as the true measurement of PBO's interest or support of AA's plight after years of policies against them ranks as hyperbole"

You clearly didn't read the piece. She explicity gets into his policies as well. This cult support of Obama by blacks is getting scary.

Ms Klein's twenty-six (26) references to "Durban Review Conference" clearly indicates that the article is focused on "Durban".

Americans began the summer still celebrating the dawn of a "post-racial" era.

FAIL.

I was going to read it, but now I see the basic premise is mierda. I'll use the time to read something else.

Thanks!

"I was going to read it, but now I see the basic premise is mierda."

Please read the piece before you judge its merits. It's comprehensive in it's anaysis and exposes some things About Obama that are very important. It also debunks the myths about the original reparation movement and World Conference against racism. Please don't just be a cult supporter of Obama the way the right was cult supporters of Bush. '

I can understand the notion that you want me to read it... but why assert "Don't just be a cult supporter of Obama." Beyond being disrespectful it's unfounded.

My distaste for the idea that Blacks ever believed that we are in a "post racial era" is a racist ploy by the white mainstream media. It is not news to acknowledge a reality that never really changed to begin with- exept for the whites who created the nonsensical term to begin with. No Black person I know ever said "wow now we're beyond this racism thing." No person of color ever thought that.

This is not about my support for our new President. It's about my support for news and blogs that support sound thinking.

"Beyond being disrespectful it's unfounded"

I apologize for any disrespect. But I'm sorry, the sense that I get from most of the blogs that aren't conservative blogs is a blind devotion to Obama. Criticism of him or his administration is only accepted up to a certain extent and people are choosing to support a person over principle and sometimes fact. .

It even seems good reporting and facts about Obama don't mean much to people who support him anymore. All his duplicitous actions are rationalized in one way or another and people who point out any Obama's deficiencies are attacked- often ad hominem

Ms Klein has written a wonderful piece about the World Conference against Racism the myths behind it along with insightful observations about the black white economic disparity. She talks about how Obama’s policies threaten to exacerbate the wealth gap between blacks and whites and cites people on the ground working with this issue. Yet even people of color find this irrelevant because of the very notion that she may be critical of Obama.

I didn’t realize that the blogs were always intended to be apart of Obama’s machine as they appear to be; I thought they existed to elect him but also to challenge him when he derails the agenda he campaigned on.

The blogs in support of Obama have engaged in the same mob mentality that the inan Tea Party protest revealed. I have experienced this mob like mentality at the Huffpost, DAilykos, Firedoglake and now here. It’s very reminiscent of how conservatives supported Bush even though his policies were sometimes and most times inept.

I see you are very passionate about this one article. Besides its content why?

Jack and Jill Politics is blog that started before Obama's bid for President was it announced. I think it is reaaly easy to establish this quid pro quo relationship ie: they are Black so they support Obama blindly but that is wrong. True there is a lot of passion here and sometimes so passion that nuance gets lost but it does exist. There has been a lot of disagreement on healthcare, the bailout, and the war here. You will always find the people who are most passionate or most willing to debate to have a greater presence on this site- but it is not created by the Obama administration.

We had 8 years of ideological beatings by Bush. So far we have had 8 months of a new President that many of backed in the White House. I see the white liberal and conservative media trying to cash in on their support or call him out on "duplicitous behavior" so fast! Give him a chance! He was elected to a country going under! Can't you see that in this way- many bloggers balancing what the popular media is purporting. Excuse me if we choose to support the guy we elected and not throw him under the bus just yet.

I am starting to see lately that I am a bit more moderate than I once thought inasmuch as saying OK I'll see what you're trying to do. It's been 8 months of handling several crisis I'll give him a year before I cry foul. I'm so sick of people trying to raise the bar or move the goalpost as soon as a person of color gets the job. This feels typical.

Well I don't know if you care or not, but I am an African American who voted for Obama in the PA primaries and in the general election. However, I don't ignore facts because I originally supported him.

It took a lot to support him even though he flipped on FISA, NAFTA and public financing before he was even elected. Yes this was duplicitous because he strongly opposed FISA, NAFTA, and supported Public Finance during the primaries. And anyone who watched the full campaign knows that these policy shifts were all done out of political expediency, not political principle.

His Washington insider cabinet appointments were also troubling. Choosing to place someone who voted for the Iraq war as Secretary of State along with a VP who voted for the debacles was very troubling. When I make a horrible mistake in my job, I usually don’t get promoted, lol. Appointing a Wall Street sycophant like Timothy Geithner as treasury secretary signaled early who his loyalty would be with. The Wall Street TARP bailouts were proof of this loyalty. What about his chief of Staff , Rahm Emanuel, who was integral in pushing for NAFTA under Clinton and also voted for the Iraq War when in Congress during the Bush regime. This is change! Lmao.

Worse of all is his governing and conceding thus far. I haven’t posted here for long, but I hope there is a genuine discussion going on about how his administration has increased contracts to private mercenaries with tax payer dollars. There are more private mercenaries serving in Afghanistan than regular soldiers- this is problematic.

His support for the Wall Street bailout was a betrayal considering he campaigned as an anti establishment populist. Duplicitous indeed. I mean why are we subsiding crooks? Also there’s the side deals with pharmaceutical companies, cowardly refusal to repeal DADT and a failing healthcare plan which makes me think we are not off to the best start in this first 8 months.

It’s because of all these things that have happened that I’m pushing back against what I see.

Ok I see why you are upset. I personally haven't disagreed with his hires of HRC, JB, RE, or TG.

These facts you are upset about (screaming duplicity) are your opinions and you are entitled to them. I don't share the same opinion about his hires or his governing. I think we need an intellectual who is truly commited to leading in a different way than Bush. He's doing what I hired him to do. If he's not doing what YOU hired him to do- ok I get that. I'm not saying be quiet or go away. I'm saying say it differently and maybe you'll pursuade me. Right now you sound like the namecalling trolls. Give respect and you will get it from me whether I agree with you or not.

Have you done or said something 10 years ago and your opinion changed? In my world its not a flip flop, its evolution. Its your style of politics that makes dislike it. You are not always going to get everything you want in the time frame you want it. That's life. Coward for DADT? Two words: political capital. He's got more time to do more work and I believe he will do something about it. Right now he's fixing the economy which IS more important.

Keep fighting but if you want to be heard by me anyway- do it differently or I will scroll past your name like I do Karmi and other troll types. D, my favorite conservative, posts are read because he engages in a way I feel is different than fighting. JMO. Respect sis.

I have to say again that if he chooses to take on a given issue at any given point in time, he should be judged on how he handles it at that point in time. How early or late it is in his Presidency is irrelevant.

I mean in calling him in general "duplicitous." I see politics as a chess game not a foot race.

I'm not a part of any cult just because someone else disagrees with me and how I choose to measure the people I "hire."

They never began it under such an illusion. Or should I say delusion. So....yep still a big, fat

FAIL.

Right. I'm pretty sure she's saying that it was a faked illusion...or delusion, all along.

White girl is full of delusions. Did you read this bullshyt.

"Lost in the circus atmosphere was the enormous importance of the conference to people of African descent, and nowhere more so than among Obama's most loyal base. The US civil rights movement had embraced the first Durban conference, held in summer 2001, with great enthusiasm, viewing it as the start of the final stage of Martin Luther King's dream for full equality. Though most black leaders offered only timid public criticism of the president's Durban II boycott, the decision was discussed privately as his most explicit betrayal of the civil rights struggle since taking office."

We, Obamas most loyal base, felt betrayed because he didn't send a representative to a meaningless and highly policitized conference. Did you get the memo?

Excuse me - "meaningless"

"We, Obamas most loyal base, felt betrayed because he didn't send a representative to a meaningless and highly policitized conference. Did you get the memo?"

She said nothing of the sort. You clearly didn't read the piece

She actually states how low the criticism was by his base as result of Obama not attending. She goes further in discussing Obma's approach to race by discussing how Obama's universal governing will not decrease the economic disparity between blacks and whites- in fact it threatens to exacerbate the gap.

She specifically critiques the stimulus that does little to put a dent in the problems that it is trying to fix.

The Congressional Back Caucus went out of their way to make sure that conference was politically safe for him to attend, yet he still threw them and the conference under the bus.

Also you are ignorant about the facts of the conference.

The World Conference against Racism was subject to a large misinformation campaign and was not meaningless. The Congressional Black Caucus went out of their way to exclude language from the declaration of the Conference that would allow Obama to attend without political uproar. The event did not gain as much traction AFTER obama decided not to attend. Other Western Nations followed the bad example of the US.

It's telling that so many blacks are so blindly devoted to Obama that a World Conference against Racism is now considered “useless”.

Really? cuz many blacks have been calling the NAACP's annual conferences right here in these United States useless for about the last 3 decades, before there was a thought of Barack Obama. A world conference against racism is a nice photo op, but let's keep it real, racism has been here since Adam & Eve left the garden and will be here the day the four horsemen ride through the clouds.

okay! do we really need people to meet up in a big room and eat rubber chicken and tea to decide that racism still exists?

“R"Really? cuz many blacks have been calling the NAACP's annual conferences right here in these United States useless for about the last 3 decades"

Once again I keep telling people to read the piece. The conference was much bigger than some random yearly meeting by a 100 year old Civil Rights organization. The conference's original agenda in 2001 had a strong grass root campaign behind it and was more about a global reparation program that would have encouraged economic development in schools, infrastructure and low cost housing for the economically and racially disenfranchised. It was not about the president of Iran's speech- that’s the only thing that the corporate media covered.

The second meeting this year was going to be a continuation of this discussion and agenda proposals. The whole Israel thing was just an excuse for Western Nations to avoid this meeting about the world wide economic development of the poor and marginalized.

"The Obama Administration held thirty (30) meetings with the conference sponsors to make sure that Israel was not singled out as the only racist state (to no avail). "

Israel was not singled out as a racist state in the declaration. You should get your facts straight or read the piece which I don't believe you fully have. If you did read the whole piece, you would know that the Congressional Black Caucus - under the leadership of Barbara Lee- went out of their way to convince the UN to exclude any attacks on Israel from the Declaration.

"The rest of her piece is drivel."

This is just an ad hominem attack- typical of an Obama cult supporter.

"The discussion about the stimulus is embarrassing. She ignores the fact that the stimulus represents the greatest expansion of the safety net since the Great Society"

The expansion does little to decrease the economic disparity between blacks in whites. She points out that there is a lack of nuance to its approach. For example- extending unemployment benefits does nothing for African Americans who have not been employed or who have recently been released from prison. It only helps those who have been recently unemployed. She states it best with the following:

"Extending unemployment benefits and job retraining mainly help people who've just lost their jobs. Reaching those who have never had formal employment – many of whom have criminal records – requires a far more complex strategy that takes down multiple barriers simultaneously. "Treating people who are situated differently as if they were the same can result in much greater inequalities," Powell warns. It will be difficult to measure whether this is the case because the White House's budget office is so far refusing even to keep statistics on how its programs affect women and minorities"

She goes on to talk about other issues regarding the stimulus, Obama and the economic race disparity in great detail. Her approach to analyzing these issues was very nuanced and detailed- you just provided a talking pint (“most progressive budget since LBJ”) as a rebuttal.

U are very rude period

You deal with people with a different opinion than yours by calling them Obama cult supporter. That is a sign of immaturity and an inability to deal with those of different opinions than yours.

"You deal with people with a different opinion than yours by calling them Obama cult supporter."


Out of everything that I brought up, that is what you responded to?

What about the piece that I posted- any thoughts? Or what specifically do you disagree with me about over Obama?

I read the piece. My comment after the quoted passage was directed to Carolinagirl, not you.

The Obama Administration held thirty (30) meetings with the conference sponsors to make sure that Israel was not singled out as the only racist state (to no avail). Canada had decided not to attend much earlier. Obama didn't punk out; he was not about to be punk-ed by hard line Islamic states.

The conference was meaningless, in my opinion, because it, like so many conferences that jetsetters like Klein attend, accomplish little or nothing. The results are usually symbolic at best. The President accomplished much much more during his visits to Africa and Latin America.

The rest of her piece is drivel. The discussion about the stimulus is embarrassing. She ignores the fact that the stimulus represents the greatest expansion of the safety net since the Great Society. She also ignores the fact that the current budget is the most progressive since FDR. Each of these greatly improves the daily lives of the coloreds that Ms. Klien professes to love so dearly.

Again, my comment was directed to Carolinagirl, not you.

I'm sure most here have been astute enough to pick up on the way the media is hammering Serena and Kanye for their outbursts, forcing them into multiple apologies in order to restore Mr. Charlie's respect for them. Today we get an off-the-record comment from Obama that Kanye is a "jackass" for his actions, which leads to a front page screaming headline from Huffpost - our supposed ally in the progressive struggle. I guess the whole subtext of the scary black rapper dissing the innocent little white girl was too much for them to resist dog whistling about.

Number 1. Kanye is a jackass, but who cares. He's been a jackass for a minute. And he didn't smack the girl down. The chick is quadruple platinum. She isn't a chimney sweep.

Number 2. Serina said she was going to shove the ball down the lady's throat not kill her. One would hurt a lot and the other would make you die. Two very different things. I have heard worse in the Santa Monica Freeway.

Number 3. I'm so OVER this. What's next? Are we going to have another discussion on how Rappers and Athletes shouldn't be role models? Duh. Been there done that.

I will not post on this ish again.

Just venting electricbrotha.... [hugs]

I don't know about that dog-whistle, but that was a SERIOUS breach of journalistic ethics, but wait, that assumes that journalists these days have ethics. Obama said exactly what most of us were saying. I suppose there are some who will say Obama's just trying to jump on the bandwagon and talk bad about Kanye, but what Kanye did was definitely "jackassish" behavior. I do think he's really broken up about it, moreso because people aren't willing to look past this crap anymore, but also because he didn't mean to hurt her feelings. He was acting like a little kid who doesn't know any better, but the thing is, he's a grown ass man.

But I must admit, I was surprised to see that as the headliner on the Huff Post, must be a slow news day.

But they've both apologized and shown a hell of a lot more remorse for what they did than Joe Wilson has.

but wait, that assumes that journalists these days have ethics.

Ding, ding, ding ... you win.

They both engaged in very bad behavior so they should have apologized. I don't think anyone objectively reading their initial apologies, would consider them sincere. Had they done it right the first time, the media cycle would be over. It's not about "restor[ing] Mr. Charlie's respect for them," it's about making sure that their money stays long. I bet if you did a vin diagram, you'd find that some of the same people spending money on "the innocent little white girl['s]" records, spend their money on YE. You'd better believe Matthew Knowles understood that.

Oh ...and about Huffpost "our supposed ally in the prgressive struggle." I don't know what position they purport to play in the progressive struggle, but what I learned a long time ago is that your true friends (allies) will let you know when you've done wrong.

If you think HuffPost is your true friend then I feel sorry for you.

Oh, and this:

t's not about "restor[ing] Mr. Charlie's respect for them," it's about making sure that their money stays long. I bet if you did a vin diagram, you'd find that some of the same people spending money on "the innocent little white girl['s]" records, spend their money on YE. You'd better believe Matthew Knowles understood that.

You think that rebuts my point but it actually confirms it. Those "same people" spending on Taylor and Kanye are mostly white people. Look in your urban dictionary if you need a refresher course on who the term "Mr. Charlie" is a reference to.

And who the hell are you to suggest that their apologies weren't sincere the first time and necessitated a do-over?

I don't need you to feel sorry for me - I'm old enough to know that inanimate objects are not your friend. The question is, do you?

And no, I was not trying to rebut your point. I had a different take on their motivations. I don't equate seeking/earning "respect" with making sure that the checks don't stop. A person whose "respect" you want to earn or keep does not necessarily have to be the same person writing the checks. It's called an alternate theory -- I suggest you look it up in whatever reference material you have available for your referesher course. I doubt the Urban Dictionary will suffice.

"Who the hell [am I]?" I am a FREE, BLACK, WELL EDUCATED WOMAN, who has the ability to read, comprehend, and articulate my opinion. That's who the hell I am! And in my reading of their apologies, they were not sincere. Who are you to suggest I cannot offer my opinion?!

your true friends (allies) will let you know when you've done wrong.

Thank you!

Serena and Kanye didn't necessarily go out of their way not to give "them" ammo. Kanye has a pattern of this diva type of behavior. They were both wrong and their behavior was unacceptable. I'm not giving them pass because their skin looks like mine no matter what the media does.

But why give them less of a pass, meaning being harder on them than you would be if they were white, because they supposedly made "black people look bad"? It's not going to make the white people who are inclined to take a transgression by an individual black person and try to use it to make black people in general the face of (insert dysfunction). Unless and until we all become such perfect people that none of us ever do anything to give those people "ammo", they're going to keep trying to make us the face of (insert dysfunction). They're not going to stop.

I'll excuse Serena, because Johnny Mac got away with those shyt outbursts for his ENTIRE career.

But, Kanye? Y'all know he ain't been right in the head since his mama passed away. No excusing him for being rude, though.

That's terrible logic CPL. Excuse Serena because you think what she did was excusable not because a white man did it on another occasion.

I dont think anyone is actually excusing it, yeah, Serena was wrong and she recognizes that she was...but all of this piling on and shrilling from the likes of John McEnroe?? Oh hell naw. This talk of a ban or suspension? PUH-LEEZE. She was penalized with a fine, that's all it calls for. Venus and Serena have held up women's tennis for the last decade, without them no one gives a damn as the women's finals ratings prove. They've taken more crap from the tennis "establishment" than we'll ever really know and after listening to Zina Garrison tell it like it T-I-IS yesterday, McEnroe, Mary Carillo and the rest of the numbnuts need to catch fire. Its one thing to criticize her and say there needs to be a penalty, its quite another for them to resort to the theatrics and melodrama acting like Serena is some big bad black boogeywoman that needs to be put out the sport. These mofos aint fooling me with that act.

Miranda, what did Zina say?

(I'm paraphrasing of course) She said worse has been said and that folks like McEnroe and Carillo really need to quit the drama and acting like Serena is the worst of the worst. She sounded annoyed at the calls for a ban or suspension of Serena by these tennis commentators.

Second do you have a source on Zina speaking out?

She was on the Tom Joyner Morning Show yesterday - I didn't see a clip up yet (you have to go to blackamericaweb.com) but I know one should be up of that one soon.

She was on Tom Joyner yesterday morning. Can't remember everything she said, but basically it was you'd be surprised what goes on behind the scene at these tennis matches.

Oh, I can believe it!

You know, I'm surprised that nasty fat nasty sportswriter, Jason Whitlock, hasn't said anything about this.

That hippo hypocrite wrote something, but I refused to read it even though it was sent to me. I just won't.
I copied and pasted the link for ya
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/10067418/...

I hate Fatlock with the all the force of an atom bomb. I cant stand that pimply obese skunk.

I took one look at the title of his article and clicked the 'x'.

That niggum stay tap dancing to the pilgrims' beat.

I agree with CPL. McEnroe and Jimmy Connors didn't just launch into profanity laced tirades on a regular basis, they were respected for it. How many commercial spots has McEnroe filmed profiting from his reputation as a hothead? Its a definite double standard.

Good point, EB!

Well, I'm actually old enough to have watched those two play while they were in their prime. You expected them to berate the judges after every point. They were never threatened with expulsion. There was another foreign player named Ilia Nastase who earned the nickname "Nasty Nastase" for the very same reason. Boris Becker did it. Serena shouldn't be thrown under the bus because she lost it one time.

All summed up here:

http://blackathlete.net/artman2/publish/This_N_...

I hear you eb. I didn't necessarily disagree with your post about the media. The problem sometimes AAs dismiss bad behavior from our own because "white people do it all the time." That's why a black man could terrorize his own neighorbood(drugs, gangs etc) and everyone turn a blind eye but let a white man do some shit in that neighborhood? NAACP and the whole bunch marching through the streets. SELECTIVE OUTRAGE

Yeah, but there's a BIG difference between someone losing their cool in a sporting event, and someone destroying the community.

I have no love for drug dealers, gangbangers, hustlers, etc.

Whose making false moral equivalencies now? What Black folks do you know that turn a blind eye to drugs and violence in Black communities? There is understandable fear of both the criminals and police that leave residents feeling helpless, but no one turns a blind eye.

"Non one turns a blind eye" How old are you NMP1? Have you even heard of the "no snitching" Mantra that the Hip hop generation(mine unfortunately) goes out of their way to live by.

Contrary to public opinion the reason why Tupac and Bigge's kiler's were not brought to justice was not because of a "white conspiracy" but because the black people around them chose not to cooperate with police.

Camron's dumbass got on 60 minutes and said he wouldn't call the police on a serial killer and his mentality is reflective of some of the young minds out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxdqC8kZlQo

What does my age have to do with anything? I'm 40 years old and grew up in S.E., DC, so I know what it means to live in a community at times and in areas under siege by criminals and abused by police, and I've seen ALL MY LIFE Black folks young and old fight back against criminals and abusive police to keep their communities safe and preserve their civil rights respectively. NO ONE TURNS A BLIND EYE! It is completely unfair of you to use an ignorant ass campaign created by a few ignorant ass black people as a broad brush indictment against Black communities.

Who invited Camron's "dumbass" on 60 minutes? A dumbass white producer and reporter! Black folks were uniformly outraged by that appearance. It was nothing more than another effort in a long-going campaign to make Black folks look degenerate.

Sorry, I meant to say abusive police, not abused.

And Jennifer Capriati folks, don't forget her

Bingo.

I ain't mad at Serena, because that was in the heat of the moment. She was playing to get to the final round. Hell, John McEnroe used to say things just as bad as Serena and folks were just like, "That's just John being John."

Hell, I'm not hatin' on Johnny Mac either. As a sports junkie, I can understand gettin' worked up over bad calls. I've done it myself, as a participant and a fan.

But Kanye stole someone else's moment. Brotha coulda voiced his opinions about who he felt shoulda won backstage after the show during one of them interviews they do after these events. But nah, he had to embarrass the girl on national TV. I don't even know a Taylor Swift song from a Lady Ga-Ga song, but the young lady was voted as the winner and that was her time to shine.

Wow, the old the whiteman acts like no class asshole so black people should turn a blind eye to black people doing it argument. That's new. Keep drawing moral equivalencies for bad behavior to excuse it.

Oh, Lord. Calm your ass down.

You see that I didn't excuse Kanye's actions, right? And Kanye's still black, right?

Have you noticed that? Just by trying to put the incident in context brings suggestions of defending Kanye's actions? In other words: either offer an unequivocal smackdown of Kanye or be accused of defending his actions.

If I'm reading this correctly, it sounds like Kanye needs to get sober. Drunk and stupid is no way to have a successful career, son.

"In other words: either offer an unequivocal smackdown of Kanye or be accused of defending his actions."

I went through the same thing here last night. After hours of the back-and-forth, I let it go.

Kayne can be a jackass -- so what? Don't knee-jerk and defend bad behavior.

kanyne is also a drunken, publicity seeking, self important, ignorant FOOL. (and a jackass)

The drunken part is what concerns me. Alcoholism combined with unresolved grief over the loss of his mom can lead to erratic behavior of this sort.

Did you see the pics from that night? He arrived with a huge bottle of Henn, and when he left more than half of it was gone. Kanye needs to really just take a break and heal. He almost lost it last night when Jay asked him what his mom would have said to him if she saw what he did on Sunday.

I think that gets to the heart of the matter. We might need to start looking at what's driving Kanye's boorish behavior instead of just dismissing him as a drunken jackass. Sounds to me like he needs some help that he ain't getting because no one around him has the balls to make him straighten out his act. Sound familiar?

I would really hate to see us step back and watch another talented person in the public eye descend into self destruction while we mock them every step of the way.

Damn, I was gonna say "blame it on the a-a-a-a-al-alcohol", but you killed the mood, eclectic.

I'm trying to figure out how Terry Moran of ABC got a hold of off the record comments Obama said to CNBC? To me that's the real story.

He was watching the CNBC feed and didn't know which part was off the record. You know kind of like with CNN and the Coast Guard -- CNN hearing bang bang = CNN reporting shots fired.

More than likely a cnbc reporter told moran about it saying it was off the record and terry moron pissed himself thinking he had hot news

Good catch - nobody else is questioning that...wonder why?

I mean, did the CNBC reporter share the off the record comments with Obama with Moran?

Was Moran lurking around?

Did Obama actually say that Kanye was a jackass?

See, Terry Moran was trying to create news instead of reporting it. So I ask myself, what would be the purpose of sharing what Obama thinks of Kanye? I'm pretty sure Bush shared (off the record) that he thought Kanye was a jackass, too.

The purpose was to announce to America that Obama is unpresidential and not deserving of respect.

Apparently a few folks knew about this. The Black Snob reported on her site that she was told about the President's comment but was told to keep it on the hush, hush.

I'm not so sure that I'm ready to call this an example of trying to show up the President. I tweet quite a bit and am always amazed at what folks who should know better and/or have a job that should make them think twice about sending a particular tweet, will tweet.

I think this episode has more to do with how "comfortable" people have become with social networking than anything else - it has become so second nature that people tend to forget the consequences. I'm reminded of an article I read just the other day about how attorneys are finding themselves in hot water (i.e., could lose their licenses) for criticizing judges on twitter, fb and blogs. The notion of "privacy" and what should be shared with out "friends" has taken on a whole new meaning.

But it wasn't Terry Moron's personal Twitter account, it was Terry Moron's ABC Twitter account. If he knew it was off the record, he shouldn't have sent the tweet. He knows better but he and Jake Trapper have been trying to create news off of Obama for a while now.

Whether it was his personal account or ABCs, it really doesn't matter. The news would have been reported as a report from "ABCs Terry Moran." CNBC and ABC reportedly share a fiber line. Several ABC employees e-mailed others about the comment and Moran was not the only ABC employee to tweet about it before it was known that the comment was off the record.

Moran has a history of popping off on network threads. You might recall his HPV/anal cancer ABC e-mail an hour or two after Farrah Fawcett passed away.

I didn't know about the Farrah Fawcett thing.

Yes, about an hour or so so after it was announced, he added his comments to a network e-mail feed about how most people who have anal cancer had contracted the HPV STD and she most likely died because she contracted HPV.

Someone send Terry Moran's address to Ryan O'Neal. We can sell tickets to that beat down.

And Ryan is OLD, too - but it would STILL be a beatdown.

I agree. But also, Huff Post had a screaming big banner about Joe W also. The You Lie quote and "No You Lie" all in big font like they have with the Kanye/ Obama story. They like to pretend they're saviors of journalism but more times than not they post stories that are mere gossip and half true. They never edit with updates or retract anything. You can be black white yellow or purple, nothing trumps web hits for them.

Today's "journalists" are more interested in creating the news instead of reporting the news.

Been that way since Watergate.

Exactamundo!

BAM, right there!

That summed it all up.

HuffingtonPost and other so-called "new media" claim to be filling the void left behind by corporate owned MSM media who now chase sensationalism. They are no better. The Pesident's comments were off the record. That should be respected by old and new media. Traditional "old school" journalists always respected off the record.

Exactly...Huffpo just generally frames things in a friendly way to dems.

"Exactly...Huffpo just generally frames things in a friendly way to dems."

While at the same time stabbing them in the back.

SOME dems...damn sure not all dems.

The last 6 months it would be quite easy to mistake their headlines for Drudge headlines. The bulk of their bloggers are still progressive, but the editors clearly are leaning politically in the opposite direction these days. This infuriates me to no end because in the past the rule was off the record or recorded comments by Presidents remained secret until death.

Sure Huffpo tend to go after every B.S. headline -- I prefer TPM

Hey eclecticbrotha,

did you get my email?

Where did you send it? My old email is kaput, I nhaven't updated my info yet. I'll fix it.

EDIT: OK I just updated it.

I should probably point out that my original post was not a defense of Kanye. I was pointing out how the media has been treating the incident and the subtext to the whole thing: little white girl vs scary black rapper. We'd be fooling ourselves if we think it isn't playing into the response. I'm also a little disappointed in Da Prez because his comment plays into the notion that he's quick to diss a brotha but always chooses his words more carefully when they're directed at whites. Thirdly, the fact that an off the record comment by Obama gets so much focus from the media in the first place. I was in Wonkette earlier today and a commenter asked if this was Obama's "Sister Soulja" moment. A response from another commenter was "no, its his 'Soulja Boy' moment." I thought that was exactly what the media is trying to turn this throway away comment into today.

Say what you will about the players but don't ignore the fact they're being made a part of the same old media game.

Yeah, this Kanye thing is blowing up more than Joe Wilson. I'm sure the powers that be have hated Kanye since the Katrina campaign. To hear Joe Jackson and Donald Trump say he should be blackballed and boycotted is ridiculous. He didn't put his hands on the girl but from the chatter, you'd think he pie-faced her, snatched the mic and pushed her down! He was rude, he apologized, Beyonce gave the girl her moment-NEXT!
And to hear some say Serena should be suspended or barred from playing over her outburst-WTF?

It was a gmail account. It's all good; shoot me a note... webb@getrichcrew.com

Really! I gotta work today, but I wanted to point out two things:

1. The size of the white wingers in D.C. (with their 10 POC tag-alongs) who crowded somewhere. Bullshit! - and more bullshit The images were flipped. The 1997 view is looking from the Washington monument (?) to the Capitol; the other image is from the Capitol looking towards the Washington Monument. Some people miss that spatial concept and are fooled by it.

2) Tim Wise talks about Sociopathy on the Right' and their heroine Ayn Rand.

Keep this place jumping till I get back....../walking away muttering....'dropping F-bombs/

Just don't be threatening to shove an effin tennis ball down someone's throat as you go back.

LOL....pretty soon some right-wing nut will introduce a bill to tax everyone who uses the internet with a $10,000 yearly usage tax.

They can't afford that either. More likely try to close it down because it's socialist.

"So supporters of Saturday’s “tea party” protests against President Barack Obama were quick to highlight their big turnout. To bolster countless claims on blogs and Facebook, many posted a photograph that showed a gargantuan crowd sprawling from Capitol Hill down the National Mall to the Washington Monument.

But it turns out the photo is more than 10 years old, apparently taken during a 1997 Promise Keepers rally."

.....

What no one has noted is that two-thirds of the National Mall was filled by an entirely separate event on Saturday that had nothing to do with protesting the president. September 12 just happened to be the 24th-annual Black Family Reunion, which ran from 7th Street all the way to the Washington Monument. The Other 9/12 Rally

There was no "Black Family Reunion" because we all know that blacks don't have families. And why was there a BLACK Family Reunion, anyway? Blacks wouldn't like it if we had a WHITE Family Reunion! Blacks are RACIST! Reuniting their families and shit! ACORN is behind this! [/wingnut rant]

STOP!! LOL

Yet Another Stellar Reason We Need Health Care Reform
Posted by Zandar
As HuffPo's Ryan Grim reports, health insurance companies will use anything to justify charging people higher premiums, including domestic violence, and Republicans are too busy doing backflips to justify the insurance companies being able to do this.
It turns out that in eight states, plus the District of Columbia, getting beaten up by your spouse is a pre-existing condition.
Under the cold logic of the insurance industry, it makes perfect sense: If you are in a marriage with someone who has beaten you in the past, you're more likely to get beaten again than the average person and are therefore more expensive to insure.

In human terms, it's a second punishment for a victim of domestic violence.

In 2006, Democrats tried to end the practice. An amendment introduced by Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), now a member of leadership, split the Health Education Labor & Pensions Committee 10-10. The tie meant that the measure failed.

All ten no votes were Republicans, including Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyoming), a member of the "Gang of Six" on the Finance Committee who are hashing out a bipartisan bill. A spokesman for Enzi didn't immediately return a call from Huffington Post.

At the time, Enzi defended his vote by saying that such regulations could increase the price of insurance and make it out of reach for more people. "If you have no insurance, it doesn't matter what services are mandated by the state," he said, according to a CQ Today item from March 15th, 2006.

Besides the obviously horrible reasoning for making battered women pay more for insurance (I mean honestly, how much of an asshole do you have to be to work in the insurance industry?) the fact that Sen. Mike Enzi that's doing everything he can to kill an affordable public option is the same exact Mike Enzi that justified this odious practice because he was worried about private insurance becoming unaffordable is just peachy.


How nice.

http://zandarvts.blogspot.com/2009/09/yet-anoth...

Glenn Beck's '9-12' logo based on communist and socialist designs
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/...

Roger Federer Uses Profanity at U.S. Open

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALe...

I saw the video. Federer dropped the F-bomb at least two or three times. Interesting that people aren't calling for a ban on *him*. Interesting how the tennis world isn't "outraged" at *his* choice of language.

Serena Williams? Well, her profanity was more ... well, savage; more vicious.

Someone else mentioned Federer dropping an F-bomb after his little "shit" rant - that was on that tennis site I linked.

Federer LOST too.

Well, Federer doesn't exactly look very "threatening", does he?

Hmmm.....he allegedly just said he "didn't give a shit." Like that's more acceptable. He was talking to the chair umpire as well - who makes the decisions. I think if Serena had voiced her complaint about that stupid 'foot fault' bullshit to the chair umpire rather than the line judge it might have turned out differently.

Do you have a link to the video?

Oh - and Federer, he got gobsmacked as well last night.

Well, I'm having a hard time trying to find the video of Federer. Surprised?

No, but I don't think it some conspiracy.

I found it though.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/roger-...

Edit: Another take at a tennis fan site, interesting comments on Serena.
http://tennis.fanhouse.com/2009/09/14/roger-fed...

Kanye West on Jay Leno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ofKepheEZ4

Yoo hoo, Liberal Negroes!!!! It's me again. I thought you might be interested that your girl, Arriana Huffington, has been on Morning Joe with absolute zipped lips while they trash Van Jones, ACORN, Barney Frank. And if silence is agreement, she doesn't support the public option. Surprisingly, it was Chuck Todd who said it was not legitimate for the MSM to investigate Jones or ACORN.

You'd think that with this article of glowing praise of Van Jones where she talks of their friendship that she wrote last week, she'd defend his abilities. With friends like these.....

If she believes in the PO, she should advocate for it there especially since that is a more conservative audience. Yet when she goes on with Keith or Rachel, she's always ready to rake Obama over the coals for not being liberal enough and kowtowing to moderates and conservatives.

That's what is so confounding! She like Eugene Robinson and so many other progressives speak with one voice in print but a completely different voice on television, which reaches a far larger audience and would be far more effecting. If that's not the definition of a sell-out I don't know what is. If you're not willing to speak the same message to every audience then you are not principled in your positions. Chuck Todd essentially asked Joe how far down the food chain do you expect the MSM go in investigating members of this administration until it becomes witch hunt? And she said nothing!

Everybody wants to be on tv and everybody wants to be asked back. So your opinions are based on the type of show you're on. Its why Obama does so many interviews on all different types of media, to cut through all these pundits. Yes they'll still spin what he says but when people can hear from him directly it helps to balance the spin.

I saw that NMP1. You can tell when the right wing and the white wing media are desperate because they resort to bashing ACCORN.

ACCORN didn't take us to war based on lies.
ACCORN didn't create the large deficits,
ACCORN is not the enemy.
ACCORN helps the little people.

Follow RonnieB's formula of No Black Hosts=No Black Guests, and political TV will come around sooooooon enough.

Unfortunately too many black people will shuck and jive for their own moment in the sun instead of holding out for the greater good.

Sad but true.

The bigger disappointment is that she went on Morning Joe. Her silence is better way of saying "You Lie" than saying it.
Curious, if I am a liberal negro does that make you a conservative negro? If so which is worse be overtly emotional, i.e. a liberal negro or delusional, i.e. a conservative negro? As a conservative negro does drinking O-ade make you more clear headed or simply a name caller.

I hadn't fully read your reply when I responded. Drinking O-aid is
better than eating white Liberal's shit! And I'm hoping that the FDA
approves hater-aid for all of you Obama haters.

NOPE! That makes me an independent liberal minded Black woman who
refuses to play plantation politics with either Party.

I'm with you on your description.
The problem I am having w/ your arguments is that they have become almost completely name calling as opposed to making a cogent argument. I understand your attacks on liberals excercising white privledge and some of them aren't worth discussing given their hypocrisy in action(KO comes to mind). Tim Wise on the other hand has been as forth right as possible about calling out racism in the protests against the President.

If you think my criticisms of the President or any other poster are wrong make your case but going "hey you liberal negro"(negro being the derogatory argument) is childish name calling. You can do better. Challenge yourself.

Indiscriminately bashing "white liberals" as a group, while using their intellectual products to bolster your rhetoric. That's intellectual parasitism.

What intellectual products what that be, mammie?

The intellectual products that lie at the other end of any links you post in order to bolster some argument. If you despise liberals so much as a group, try to rely on linking to conservative outlets to bloster your arguments. It's parasitism.

It's interesting that you talk about "white liberals" and "Democrats" as if they're completely the same thing. The scapegoating we've seen should tell you that the Democratic establishment (including the Obama administration) looks upon them in much the same way they look upon blacks- as "clients".

This the height of silliness! Because I expose the hypocrisy of white liberals that makes me a conservative? For weeks now, Negroes on this blog have ran with ever rumor, unfounded suspicion and downright lies about our President disseminated by white liberals.

I'm keeping my 3rd eye on white liberals and exposing their hypocrisy when I see it!

No, some "negroes" on this blog are of the opinion that the President is not strongly committed enough to the public option, and we don't feel the need to act as if we don't have that opinion, which we formed independently, just because some "white liberals" are of the same opinion. All the liberal-bashing and "traitor" accusations have nothing to do with questions of policy or concern for people. It all has to do with the criticism of Obama. Well...that, and perceiving the "white liberals" as weaker and less fearsome than the white town hall loonies and their masters.

Please! The only opinions you express on here are talking points taken directly from white liberal blogs--always critical of the President and always in defense of white liberals.

Yes, that's right. In all the time I've commented on this blog, all I've done is criticize Obama and defend white liberals.

You are taking the traitor comment comletely out of context. I made that comment in the context of Keith Olbermann raising the specter of a Democratic primary challenge to the President in 2012 and some Negroes then using Keither Olbermann as their standard bearer. I said it was traitorous--AND I STILL SAY IT WAS TRAITOROUS--for a Negro to use Keith Olbermann's threat against the President as a rallying cry when this mutha fucka refuses to call out his colleague Pat Buchanan who has said Black folks should be grateful for slavery because it gave us Welfare and Section 8 and saved us from a Godless existance.

You applied the epithet "traitor" to some people here just because they had the nerve to criticize Obama on something. That's the context, as you yourself just stated...

I made that comment in the context of Keith Olbermann raising the specter of a Democratic primary challenge to the President in 2012 and some Negroes then using Keither Olbermann as their standard bearer.

I used Olbermann's threat as a "rallying cry"? Document. Document, or you're just a bullshitter.

You know what? I think Olbermann should call Buchanan out more vigorously, even though they work for the same company. The difference with me is that I'm not going to be hypocritical by then turning around and defending Obama for being overly circumspect in his behavior because it might cause the crazy white people to say...something. Something that they're saying anyway...something they wouldn't stop saying even if he told them their lies were all true, and resigned, LOL.

I sense some tension between NMP1 and Plantsmantx...

They always end up having the same argument. LIBERALS, TRAITORS, OLBERMANN

Some of you, in one way or another, are natural extremists. You always express everything in the most hyperbolic terms. We haven't always been having this argument. We've been having it since I was called a traitor, which wasn't that long ago, and I haven't talked about OLBERMANN all that much.

I think you guys should just get a room and get it over with.

See, I was thinking sexual tension, but didn't want to go there, LOL.

I kid, I kid. ;)

That's original.

The only tension is my resistance to conformity. I won't play the game of follow the white liberal. She lurks on this board waiting for an opportunity to come to the rescue of white liberals. She may as well sleep in that super mammie costume because I have no intention of letting up on their hypocritical duplicitous asses.

No...being called a "traitor" has freed me up to point out the hypocrisy being practiced by some people here, and you just happen to be the worst offender. It's not about defending white liberals. It's about pointing out the dishonesty and bullshit contrarianism that's being deployed in service to your savior. I don't have any saviors, and don't have the need for any.

Oops!

The bigger disappointment is that she went on Morning Joe.

Right there, Rob. Just going on the show lends credence that isn't due.

It is the same as when Democrats appear on Fox News.

Any creds they had before they go on those shows, they lose after their appearances, and then they whine about how Fox treated them.

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas. Arianna can't whine when Morning Joke goes after her blog for being "too liberal" because if I get anywhere near her ass, I will call her out for going on shows like Morning joke and berating her the same way she berates Obama.

But, then again, what did we expect? I'm from California; I KNOW Arianna Huffington's history. She was a staunch Republican in the manner of "B-1 Bomber" Bob Dornan (anyone from OC KNOW what a fruitcake he was) - her husband ran against Dianne Feinstein for the Senate and spent $26 million dollars of his family's fortune to LOSE to Feinstein - then he came out of the closet as being gay.

Arianna divorced him and then remade herself as a "liberal independent" who became everything anti-Republican.

So why be disappointed when Arianna periodically returns to her real roots? Unless she had a "come to Jesus" moment, she is the same snake sporting two heads.

I remember her conversion. I missed her husband coming out of the closet. That seems to be a trait unique to Republicans.

That said I have to agree w/ your point about cred.

I think NMP's point is that while Arriana constantly criticizes Obama for not being tough and not standing up to the Republicans, she chose to remain silent while Republicans bashed Liberals and spoke against the public option. She ain't practicing what she preaches.

That is a cogent argument and I get your point. Can you please become her mouthpiece because the liberal negro stuff is like listening to President Bush speak? Painful and not contributing anything to an argument.

"Curious, if I am a liberal negro does that make you a conservative negro?"

Yeah, I've wondered about that myself.

The White House has now shown itself willing to cave on the two essential elements of real health care reform -- drug price negotiations and having a public option.

Both are crucial to containing costs. The right to negotiate drug prices is how free markets operate -- taking advantage of economies of scale and the bargaining power that comes with bulk purchasing. To give this up should be abhorrent to anyone who believes in a functioning capitalist system, as opposed to what we are increasingly becoming: an oligarchy of powerful interests. In the same way, having a public option is the only meaningful way to provide competition leading to lower insurance costs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffingto...

Are you schizophrenic if your both liberal and conservative - depending on the issue?

You mean, like, unfunded mandates? Yeah, that seems kinda skittso to me.

"Surprisingly, it was Chuck Todd who said it was not legitimate for the MSM to investigate Jones or ACORN."

Now, that's news.

I've been pleasantly surprised by Todd of late. He wrote a piece on
First Read recently taking to task how the media is letting the far
far right control the news cycle. Since his disastrous first months
as White House correspondent, he seems at least somewhat committed to
being a real journalist in the traditional sense.


Now one can have legitimate complaints about government bailouts of
banks, but when you are on a set owned by GE, who received bailout
money TWICE, it is complete hypocrisy and dishonesty. Moreover, Mike
Barnicle's wife is an executive with Bank of America which received
bailout money.

Chuck Todds wife worked on Hillary's campaign.

"Mike Barnicle's wife is an executive with Bank of America"

Understanding the "incestuous" relationships of the talking heads and the Kleptocracy plus their failure to make disclaimers always provide insight to disassemble "warped news".

And I'm willing to bet Barnicle's wife got a fat bonus paid with that bailout money.

Incestuous, hypocritical assholes, the whole lot of them.

And MSNBC - their bullshyt is piling so high, I'd have more respect for Rachel Maddow if she was spouting her shyt from the BBC America channel as opposed to MSNBC.

he seems at least somewhat committed to being a real journalist in the traditional sense.

That's because he was called out by that guy on Real Time.

Moreover, Mike Barnicle's wife is an executive with Bank of America which received bailout money.

WHAT?? Between this revelation and Andrea Greenspan working at MSNBC......talk about MSNBC having a lack of credibilty.

And she KISSES Alan - PERIOD!!!

Thanks alot, wordsmith. I think I'm gonna be sick with that image in my head.

Do you work for Berlusconi's newspapers?

"Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
-- Zbigniew Brzezinski ,"Between Two Ages"
Think about it

Jeremy lott?Politico?Okay if you say so,but now my redumblican friend with the lilliputian brain.Can you please point out where President Obama lied?

So Kanye is a jackass....and Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner? I mean, they only helped in the makings of the economic crisis.....

So instead of going at the media for once again showing their lack of journalistic integrity, you rather criticize Obama.

This isnt even about Obama; it's about our collective obsession with shits that in the larger scheme of things are totally unimportant. Everyone is outrage @ Kanye West (including *supposedly* Barack Obama), yet the fact that homes are going into foreclosure at record numbers doesnt muster half of the media out/collective outrage we've seen this past Sunday.

Mind you, I think the whole thing was staged to sell records for his upcoming album or Tour.

Oh please, it's not like Obama had a press conference about Kanye. It was an off the record statement. You think Obama lives in a bubble or something?

They have been after Kanye everysince he dared say "George Bush doesn't care about Black people" on national TV after Katrina. They have been trying to destroy his creditability every since then.

And Kanye keeps giving them ammo to shoot him with. Kanye played himself this time. His attention whore act is old. Way past old.

He was right about Bush, he was foul with what he did to Taylor Swift.

But you made it about Obama because your initial comment was a remark in reference to the report about Terry Moran tweeting about an off the record comment Obama made, not about the media's lack of attention to more important issues.

Another "leaked" comment from an anonymous source?

From MedEIndia's Gender Row Runner Semenya Placed On Suicide Watch

South African runner Caster Semenya, who is at the center of a gender row, has been placed on suicide watch amid fears for her mental stability.

The Daily Star quoted officials as saying that psychologists are caring the 18-year-old round-the- clock after it was claimed tests had proved she was a hermaphrodite.

...Lawmaker Butana Komphela, chair of South Africa's sports committee, was quoted as saying: "She is like a raped person. She is afraid of herself and does not want anyone near her. If she commits suicide, it will be on all our heads. The best we can do is protect her and look out for her during this trying time."

South African athletics officials confirmed Semenya is now receiving trauma counselling at the University of Pretoria...

Uncivil society...uncivil media...uncivil people...what's happened to Caster Semenya sucks so much raw eggs. She deserved -- and deserves -- so much better from the collective us than what she's received.

If she commits suicide, it will be on all our heads.

Poor poor girl. Merciful God.

They need to stop the fake concern and just give her some pills and a gun because what did they expect to happen when they outed her before the world?

But that's our "So called" media for you.

They always do shyt like this and NEVER GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT CONSEQUENCES for the subject of their stories, or the fall out after.

If this girl kills herself, it will be the same shyt that was done when Princess Diana died in that Paris tunnel 12 years ago. Her brother put her death squarely at the hands of the media when he told them their hounding her made them have her blood on their hands.

Caster's family needs to call the African/Euro version of Johnnie Cochran and start suing media conglommerations if this girl succeeds in offing herself.

I agree completely but I would take it one step further. As much as I can't stand the National Enquirer the people that buy it are just as culpable.

Poor soul..this has been tragic all around. And why? Because she won a race. Honestly, this is where sport takes itself so completely seriously that it elevates itself so high. And in the end, it really doesn't matter. Who can remember what race she actually won?

I agree. They're treating her like some P.T. Barnum sideshow exhibit. I feel so bad for her.

The polarization card
By Derrick Z. Jackson
IN HIS 1969 book, political analyst Kevin Phillips envisioned Richard Nixon’s Southern strategy becoming an “Emerging Republican Majority.’’ A New York Times review said, “Full racial polarization is an essential ingredient of Phillips’ political pragmatism. He wants to seek a black Democratic party, particularly in the South, because this will drive into the Republican party precisely the kind of anti-Negro whites who will help constitute the emerging majority.’’


While a distressing amount of what Phillips foretold came to pass for many years, the poison of polarization finally faded enough to see the election of Barack Obama. Today the Republicans are the shrinking minority, who, with no strategy to improve the country, have only the polarization card to play.
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http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opi...

"Despite all of the actual falsehoods that got us into Iraq and cost us thousands of lives of American soldiers, President Bush did not endure in his entire eight years what Obama is undergoing in his first eight months."

Some may deny it, but the fear instilled into the psyche of public during W's administrations was palpable.

"Get the government out of my life!"
With these words a growing segment of the American public is demanding a change in the way this country is run. They don't realize it, of course, but they are. And, our ever pandering media, eager for ratings and approvals, is increasingly presenting this demand as though it is a rational and reasonable one.

"Get the government out of my life!"

OK. Where would you like to start?

Granny Doc's diary :: :: I know. Let's start with the police and fire department. (Can you hear Ben Franklin groaning?) House burning? Did you pay the approximately $8,000 per household that each fire department needs to buy and maintain the equipment to battle fires? Do you have a fireman on your personal staff? What? You can't afford that? Awww, that's really too bad.

A strange and suspicious character has been seen in the neighborhood. Unless you personally paid your share of the Sheriff's salary, and the cost of those new police cars and 911 operators, you'll just have to round up the neighbors, grab those guns and drive the suspicious character out. What do you mean it was your brother? Dead? Awww, that's really too bad.

What do you plan to do with all that garbage and trash piling up around your house? It's not only an eyesore, it's a health hazard to you, and to everyone else. No place to take it? They had to close the dump? Awww. That's really too bad!

How will you educate your kids? At an average cost of $7,000 per child (You say you have 3 kids?), a cost that barely offsets day to day operations in schools, I really must ask how were you at algebra and geometry? Oh, don't worry about the kids of rich folks. They will go on, with their ever widening skills set advantage, as the taxes you no longer wanted anyone to pay are channeled into private schools.

You will, of course, be responsible for all of the roads and highways that touch your property. If you fail to cough up the $20,000, or so, that constitutes your share of highway repair and maintenance costs, and the trucks and cars can no longer get to your area, well, I guess you'll just have to starve. Unless you are completely self-sufficient.

Forget that Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard. They suck down billions everyday. They are government and we have to get them out of your life.

Let's dispose of libraries (except for the wealthy who can afford books and share them willingly), hospitals, street lights, sewers, water treatment facilities, weather services, volcano monitoring (snicker), and all other government operated services.

Let's return to 1,100ad, when tribal warlords called all the shots, and everyone else just starved, or died of illness or injury. When there were no government rules and regulations for safety of the food supply, no attempts to maintain a society of laws and justice, and no public services to take your taxes and "waste them" by government organizing and operating the most complex factors in society to create a safe and healthy environment. (Oh, wait!! You think you'll be one of the warlords, don't you? Sucker...)

It's really too bad we know longer have an Australia, or some such place. We could provide fare for all the Government Outer's and let them experience a life that is brutish and short. Let them face the consequences of their refusal to think, or plan, or even defer to those who do. Let them learn the results of living as an individual with no connection, no responsibility, and no concern for others. It's just Me, Me, Me, with these folks. They are nothing but barbarians.

Let's get them out of our life!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/14/781...

Your first two posts should be required reading for psychology students and the general public to understand what cgnitve dissonance is.

'Norma Rae' Dead at 68 After Struggle With Her Insurance Company to Get Chemo
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/norma-ra...

Sad to hear about her denial of treatment. She was/is truly an unsung heroine. RIP Norma Rae

As Media Matters reported, Fox News followed in lockstep with Glenn Beck in making ACORN, rather than health care, their top story of the day, yesterday (9/10/09), one day after President Obama delivered his major address on health care reform. Media Matters counted at least 17 segments on six programs devoted to airing and discussing portions of a video made by anti-choice zealot James O’Keefe who specializes in using deceptive practices to trick his targets into embarrassing themselves. In this case, O’Keefe and partner Hanah Giles posed as a pimp and prostitute looking for tax advice from ACORN’s tax preparation service. O'Keefe said his goal was "posing the most ridiculous criminal scenario we could think of and seeing if they would comply.” Predictably, Sean Hannity was so enthusiastic about the prospect of smearing ACORN – and President Obama along with it – that he failed to tell the “we report, you decide” network’s viewers that the filmmakers reportedly went to several ACORN offices, where their ploy was unsuccessful, before finding someone to fall for their scheme. Hannity also failed to mention O’Keefe’s background, including the fact that he admits to using the tactics of Saul Alinsky, the radical Fox is always throwing in President Obama’s face. Instead, activist O’Keefe was presented as an “independent filmmaker.” With video

As Foxnews.com reported, an ACORN spokesman has said that O’Keefe’s film crew “tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed.” How many times did O’Keefe try his charade before he found someone who took the bait? We never learned. Hannity never even bothered to tell his audience about ACORN’s response to the video. It certainly wasn’t for lack of airtime. The video was discussed repeatedly during the show, including a “Fox News alert” at the start. I’m sure all that attention for the film had nothing to do with the fact that Obama’s health care speech was very enthusiastically received by the public nor that another 6 advertisers – bringing the total to 62 – have reportedly pledged not to advertise further on the Glenn Beck show.

Instead of revealing O’Keefe’s background or the context and history of his video, Hannity described it as an “undercover investigation conducted by filmmaker James O’Keefe.”

On hand to promote the video were Andrew Breitbart and Michael Flynn whose new website claims to be dedicated to fighting big government. Yet it has devoted about 90% of its two pages to attacking ACORN.

First, Breitbart preened about the supposed importance of this gotcha by sneering, “Congratulations to 60 Minutes and CBS for having the guts to take on ACORN.” Gee, Andrew, do you think that maybe they thought there might be more important issues to cover – like health care reform? Funny how I didn't see much, if any, coverage on your site about that.

Breitbart went on to brag about the two “intrepid” investigators, and described O’Keefe as “well on his way to being one of the great journalists.” Except, Andrew, “great journalists” usually report their complete findings – like how many times they visited ACORN before they found a taker. Breitbart, who should know something about journalistic ethics either doesn’t or pretends otherwise. “He (O’Keefe) went into ACORN thinking that there was gonna be something like this and he certainly found it… Every step of the way these (ACORN) people… participated and upped the ante, and I’m just here to tell you that James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles are heroes for doing this because we all knew that this is what happens at ACORN, to a degree.”

Nice little wiggle words, “to a degree,” there, Andrew. I mean, we could say that we know that withholding information from the public is what happens whenever Breitbart goes on the air, to a degree.

Hannity, never at a loss for his own self-importance, announced that the show would later go into the “criminal issues.” But somehow nobody ever got around to mentioning the potential criminal liability of those great journalists because it's a crime in Maryland to record someone without their permission.

Meanwhile, Hannity and Flynn lamented that ACORN gets “millions of dollars” from the US government. Funny, ACORN received $13 million from the Bush administration and I never saw anyone, in more than 5 years of watching "fair and balanced" Fox News have a care about that.

Flynn also ignored that O’Keefe and Giles may now be criminally liable. Instead, he insisted that ACORN owed them an apology (for saying they had engaged in “gotcha journalism,” which, by their own admission, they had) and also suggested that ACORN should thank them “for rooting out these employees.” Yeah, and I think Breitbart should be thanking me for helping him root out his journalistic transgressions.

Sure enough, Hannity soon used the issue to start up his McCarthyesque witch hunt against Obama, who, even Hannity would have to admit, had absolutely nothing to do with this incident. But that didn't stop Hannity from suggesting otherwise. “We had a media that ignored Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn and Rev. Wright and Pfleger. We had a mainstream media that… ignored (Van) Jones, we have Eric Holdren (I believe Hannity meant John Holdren), we have Cass Sunstein. We have a lot of radicals surrounding this president.”

Kind of like we have a lot of bigots surrounding Hannity?

“But (Obama) was once the lawyer for them,” Hannity accused. “Does this connect back to the President of the United States in your mind?” he asked Breitbart.

Breitbart said he would not “get into how this relates to the president” and then he did exactly that. “What we’re seeing here, though… is more of an outrage against the mainstream media… They didn’t vet this president… or the people who are running this government and, quite frankly, taking it over… Now we understand what a community organizer is, period.”

In Their Zeal To Change Subject From Health Care To ACORN, Fox News Overlooks Issues With Gotcha Video

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To the rethug and FOX, ACORN is as valuable of a target as Van Jones.

Swear to God, I'd love to go all Serena Williams on Hannity's clown ass, including shoving a tennis racket down that fucker's throat. Tired of lil' doughboys like him and Beck.

Pasty bastards.

Good Morning.Your Tuesday Jam.Enjoy
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Say you love me, baby

Teena Rocks!

Thanks, dj

That's my sawng! Thanks, DJ!

See, there you go, dj, stirring up a lady early in the morning.... Geez.
Great tune.

Thanks DJ

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