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Michael Steele, Please Kiss My @$$

For real.

Everyone is up in arms over what former President Jimmy Carter said, or in faux rage because most people I have spoken with said, "It is true", anyway I am not in a rage. No one can consciously sit by night after night and watch many racist WHITE AMERICANS, yes, I typed it, continue on the path of President Obama is the Joker, Hitler, Stalin, a maxist, a communist, a socialist, and then go over board and caricature our president to a monkey. Then to continue to use the health care platform to vent their racist rants. Please, that shit is RACIST and folks that see this on the regular, it is a damn turn off, whether you voted for Obama or not.

So, now enters the RNC Chairman, Michael Steele. Michael, bro, token bro, please don't get out of pocket and say that President Obama should repudiate something that former President Jimmy Carter said. Obama did not say it, nor did his White House. Don't play the straw man card here, bro, you are not good at it. We KNOW what you are about and it definitely does not say much about your character, but if you don't like what Carter said, call him up and tell HIM SO.
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Just saw the "Bling! Bling! Get DOWN! Yo Bro! - - Mouth of Steele" on Wolf "Blitzen!"
LAWD! HA'MERCY!! ***shakin' my head - uncontrollably***

While I'm lookin' 4 the VIDEO - - I'll share Steele denounces 'race card'!
President Carter is flat out wrong. This isn’t about race. It is about policy.

This is a pathetic distraction by Democrats to shift attention away from the president's wildly unpopular government-run health care plan that the American people simply oppose. Injecting race into the debate over critical issues facing American families doesn’t create jobs, reform our health care system or reduce the growing deficit. It only divides Americans rather than uniting us to find solutions to challenges facing our nation.

Characterizing Americans’ disapproval of President Obama’s policies as being based on race is an outrage and a troubling sign about the lengths Democrats will go to disparage all who disagree with them. Playing the race card shows that Democrats are willing to deal from the bottom of the deck. Our political system has no place for this type of rhetoric.

As the leader of the Democratic Party President Obama should flatly reject efforts by those in his Party, including Jimmy Carter and Tim Kaine, to inject race into our civil discourse in ways that divide, not unite, Americans.

U shoulda heard/seen him "scramble 4 an answer" when he was shown a pic of the Rethug side of the Congress vs the Dem side. CLEARLY - "horses of a DIFFERENT COLOR!" :>)

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NEVA MIND!! HE WON'T!!

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I believe a BBC correspondent to America did an entry on the American blog if the protests against Obama were mostly racially driven. A great number of people, both Brits and Americans found that race was a factor while some others said no and accuse the left and minorities of "race-baiting." Obviously, I do not believe that all critics of the President are racist (using common sense here, which unfortunately too many lack), but when you demand to see his birth certificate after the state of Hawaii issued it, and demand that your children not witness his speech when Reagan, Clinton, and Bush I and II have done the same without any allegations of "brainwashing" our children, it leads me to think that his skin color is still a problem for some in this country.

What fascinates me the most is that many on the right keep saying that they're against the "radical agenda of the Obama administration" and that they "don't like what he's doing to the constitution."

I asked these people to outline the radical agenda to me and they never answered my question. When they brought up "he's destroying the constitution" I brought to their attention what happened when Bush II visited NYC when I was in grad school. Thousands of protesters, who were doing so peacefully were all sent to jail. Even those who were just passing by, who got caught up in the crowd also were put in jail. When I read about this in the Village Voice, I was stunned and thought---is this the US or China? When I bring this to the attention of those who cry "destroying the constitution" and ask them where they were, I never get an answer.

I get that the Republicans are against government intervention in businesses, etc., but what corporations influencing the government? Why aren't more people getting upset about the latter?

Although I find Michael Moore to be a bit over the top at times, I do agree with what he said about socialism in America. "The true believers of socialism are the Wall Street executives." I think he should also add the top 1% controlling most of the wealth in this country---as it seems they are the true believers as well.

EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP

just once i want one of the many mealy mouthed democrats who shows up on tv up against a republican spokewhore who uses the go to line "it's about legitimate policy issues" to defend the teabaggers, birthers, and beck-limbaugh enthusiasts of the world, to come armed with a list of teabagger signs to read and flat out ask his colleague to identify the legitimate policy concern contained within the racist garbage.
i'm waiting for someone to ask, "what exactly is the policy concern addressed by the woman holding up a sign that says: obama is an undocumented worker?" and slap the fool that dares to quip "immigration."
perhaps one of morning joe's token liberal panelists could do this, but then they wouldn't be invited back & that is after all their primary concern.
the only policy these fools are protesting, is the fact that it's legal to have a black president, but clearly we wouldn't want to offend them by letting them know it's obvious to the entire world.

They never ask the right questions. Drives me nuts.

The entire process is intentionally skewed toward never asking the right questions. Folks who would ask the right questions or provide the right answers, or at least pose markedly different questions and answers, are systematically excluded from the discussion. The universe of discourse is narrowed and anything that is not included is thereby considered off the table and beyond the boundaries of discussion.

Just yesterday the republicans were whining about wasting time on rebuking wilson, now they come up with this crap:

Yesterday, I posted on how a group of senators sent the White House a letter expressing concern over a multitude of presidential appointments -- which they label "czars" -- and how they "raise serious issues of accountability, transparency, and oversight." At length, I pointed out how those senators themselves need to do a better job accounting for the actual roles of those so-called czars, which are transparently obvious and easy to oversee.

Now it's the House's turn to get deeply mired in confusion over this non-issue! The Washington Independent's Dave Weigel reports today that Georgia Republican Jack Kingston has rounded up 100 co-sponsors for the Czar Accountability and Reform Act of 2009, also known as the "CZAR act" despite lacking a "Z" for the acronym. Might I recommend "zany?"

The bill would prevent taxpayer money from funding the salaries of "any task force, council, or similar office which is established by or at the direction of the President and headed by an individual who has been inappropriately appointed to such position (on other than an interim basis), without the advice and consent of the Senate." As I pointed out yesterday, many of the "czars" that are being fretted about have already been confirmed by the Senate, hold positions that were created by the Congress, or are just people who have been arbitrarily named a "czar" despite the fact that they are actually State Department envoys or Deputy Secretaries of the Interior, like "California Water Czar" David Hayes.

I also pointed out yesterday that "czars" have been a fact of life in American politics since the Nixon administration, and, to the best of my recollection, no Republican ever complained about the multitude of "czars" in the Bush White House.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/16/ant-cz...>

Seriously, is FAUX news now dictating what the Congressional republicans do? And they even admit that they didn't mind Czars when BUSH was doing them. SMH

Bush had 35 czars; Reagan began the concept of czars

Interesting, the brains of this nation is just fried, they are empty. Forget spending money on war or the military. There needs to be a serious educational intervention on the citizens because the dumping down of America has finally been accomplished.

Seriously, is FAUX news now dictating what the Congressional republicans do?

when was that not the case?

Well why not? Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck dictate what they do.

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and of course, democrats will go along with it (no matter the hypocrisy or dubious logic involved) because they're afraid of republicans hollering "socialist!" it's so predictable.

"Flip And Pop My Collar Like The Fonz"
http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives...

...got a note from a good friend yesterday expressing shock, and anger, about Drudge and Malkin's usage of that alleged racial beat-down on a school-bus. On some level, I wonder if something's wrong with me. I'm neither shocked, nor angry. This is exactly how I expected these fools to respond to a black president.



If anything, I'm a little giddy. For black people, the clear benefit of Obama is that he is quietly exposing an ancient hatred that has simmered in this country for decades. Rightly or wrongly, a lot of us grew tired of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, mostly because they presented easy foils for Limbaugh-land. Moreover, again rightly or wrongly, they were used to define all of us.


It's intensely grating to live say, in Atlanta, and have some dude in Harlem crowned as your unelected leader. It's even more grating if said dude's agenda seems, in large measure, come down to standing in front of cameras and tweaking his opponents. It's no mistake that O'Reilly and Sharpton would break bread together at Sylvia's--they feed each other.

But Barack Obama, bourgeois in every way that bourgeois is right and just, will not dance.He tells kids to study--and they seethe. He accepts an apology for an immature act of rudeness--and they go hysterical. He takes his wife out for a date--and their veins bulge. His humanity, his ordinary blackness, is killing them. Dig the audio of his response to Kanye West--the way he says, "He's a jackass." He sounds like one of my brothers. And that's the point, because that's what he is. Barack Obama refuses to be their nigger. And it's driving them crazy.

It's about time.

"But Barack Obama, bourgeois in every way that bourgeois is right and just, will not dance.He tells kids to study--and they seethe. He accepts an apology for an immature act of rudeness--and they go hysterical. He takes his wife out for a date--and their veins bulge. His humanity, his ordinary blackness, is killing them. Dig the audio of his response to Kanye West--the way he says, "He's a jackass." He sounds like one of my brothers. And that's the point, because that's what he is. Barack Obama refuses to be their nigger. And it's driving them crazy."


Awesome!!! deserved an encore

WTF? Are you that damn hard up (no pun intended) that you have to PLOT to kidnap a girl and gang rape her?

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. (AP)-- Police in New York say an 18-year-old Hofstra University student trying to retrieve a cell phone was lured into a dormitory men's room and sexually assaulted by five men.

Four suspects have been arraigned on rape and other charges. The fifth suspect was still at-large Tuesday. The apprehended suspects are Jesus L. Ortiz, Stalin Felipe, Kevin R. Taveras, Rondell Bedward. Bedward is the only suspect enrolled at Hofstra.

Police believe the attack was premeditated, Newsday reports:

Police said the victim was dancing at an on-campus spot, Hofstra USA, with Jesus L. Ortiz, of 4373 Katonah Ave., the Bronx, when Ortiz grabbed her cell phone and went outside. The woman followed Ortiz to a dormitory hallway, where she was confronted by Stalin Felipe, 19, who was ready with a rope, Nassau Police Det. Lt. John Allen said in a news conference. "Clearly, I think the cell phone was taken to lure her away from the crowd to do her harm," said Allen, commander of the department's special victims squad.

Nassau County authorities say the rape occurred early Sunday on the Hempstead campus east of New York City.

Hofstra officials say they want to ensure the woman receives all available support. A hotline was set up for concerned parents.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/16/hofstr...

I say throw the entire book at all 5 of them.

"Latinos to CNN: Dump Dobbs Now"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roberto-lovato/la...

This week, Lou Dobbs is broadcasting his radio show from a national lobbying conference sponsored by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), an organization founded by a white nationalist and designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. At a time when studies document the growing link between anti-immigrant hate speech and increased violence against Latinos, Dobbs' appearance at FAIR generates especially profound concerns among those targeted by his almost daily attacks: immigrants and Latinos.

For years, Dobbs and CNN banked on the fact that many of the Latinos who bear the brunt of his systematic media assaults--Spanish-speaking immigrants--were unaware of the threat that Dobbs posed. (Not surprisingly, CNN does not translate Dobbs for broadcast on its CNN en Espanol network). But all of that is changing; Latinos are increasingly making the connection between racism in the media and discrimination in their hometowns, and coming to a simple, yet historic conclusion: Lou Dobbs is the Most Dangerous Man for Latinos in America.

Which is why, today, Presente.org (of which I am a founding member) is joining with Latino organizations throughout the United States demanding that CNN get rid of Dobbs. And we are not alone. In the coming weeks, CNN President Jon Klein will be inundated by a growing national chorus of calls from www.bastadobbs.com and others demanding his network to stop promoting Dobbs' brand of "news." From a Latino perspective, Klein and CNN must respond if they are to maintain any semblance of credibility in the Latino media market. If CNN doesn't live up to its claim to being the "most trusted name in news" it risks losing out on the fastest growing viewing demographic in the country.

Dobbs' extremism can be seen and heard on most week nights and consists of three pillars: obsession with immigrants and Latinos; promotion of systematic myths about immigrants and Latinos; and, most dangerously, providing a platform for leaders of some of the most radical and violent anti-Latino groups in the United States.

More than anyone in national network news, Dobbs has declared war against those he calls "invaders" and "aliens." According to the media watchdog group Media Matters, for example, from January 1 through July 23 of this year, Dobbs included segments on immigration in 77 out of 140 broadcast hours. With so much airtime dedicated to slandering Latinos, Dobbs has ample opportunity to spread misinformation. For example, he has blamed Latino immigrants for an alleged leprosy epidemic that was widely debunked, and has asserted Latinos' criminality with the wild exaggeration that "illegal aliens" take up a third of the cells in our prisons and jails. Dobbs also has plenty of time to host extremist guests like FAIR, the Minutemen, and controversial Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who he called "a model for the whole country."

Dobbs' incessant attacks on Latinos and immigrants have earned him a following among nativists and those who share his extreme views. But his popularity also makes him a target. Increasingly, Dobbs has become the face of anti-Latino sentiment in this country, and his position at CNN, which remains a legitimate news organization, makes him vulnerable.

The movement to drop Dobbs marks a critical shift in the direction of Latino activism in the United States. It was previewed in 2006, when media and technology helped move thousands to march through the streets, waving flags, beating drums and demanding change. And now, as the destructive role that the national media can play in spreading myths and misinformation becomes painfully clear, we are witnessing a new age of Latino media activism. These battles will be fought through Internet organizing, on cell phones via text messaging, and on blogs as much as in the streets. Paradoxically, we have no one to thank for this new movement more than Lou Dobbs. The Most Dangerous Man for Latinos in America may do as much as anyone to unite us in our ongoing struggle for civil rights.

"Party of No, Playing Into Our Hands"
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/9/16/12...

And, again, don't say I didn't tell you this was coming:

President Barack Obama this week has been laying the foundation for Senate Democrats to use a controversial budget maneuver to pass healthcare reform.
By offering Republicans olive branches during his address to Congress on Wednesday, Obama has set up a win-win situation. If GOP lawmakers embrace compromise, a healthcare bill would pass Congress easily. But the more likely scenario is that Republicans will continue to oppose Obama’s plan, and the president later this fall will be able to note he tried to strike a deal with the GOP but could not.

The Republican weakness? Their negotiating strategy sucks. Why let people know this in advance?

Most Republicans have been deeply unhappy with the Democratic health care proposals so far, and Republicans on the Finance Committee were said to be bracing for two possibilities: a partisan proposal that they were going to oppose, or a bipartisan proposal that they were going to oppose.

Because the Democratic strategy appears to rely on the Republicans being the Party of No, it makes little sense for the Republicans to go into the negotiations telegraphing that no matter what happens they will oppose the final product. That just makes it too easy for the Democrats to sell the American public on the necessity of using the reconciliation process. They're doing our work for us.

I believe I said something similar to this would happen. Sepia remembers me saying it. I basically said it doesn't matter what craptacular bill the senate committee craps out, it will get demolished in Reconciliation. This has been the plan I believe all along.

Yes, you did, PBomb. You broke it down like a fraction and it's all coming to fruition.

This is what the media will use to continue to ignore racism:

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs rejected former President Jimmy Carter's suggestion that President Barack Obama's critics were motivated by racial animus.

"The president does not believe that criticism comes based on the color of his skin," Gibbs said in his Wednesday briefing at the White House. "We understand that people have disagreements with some of the decisions that we've made and some of the extraordinary actions that had to be taken by both this administration and the previous administration."

In an NBC interview earlier in the week, Carter argued that an "overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African American."

Gibbs said it was unlikely that Obama had seen Carter's remarks.

"I doubt it. Not that he doesn't watch NBC," the spokesman joked to the network's White House correspondent.

Of course, we all KNEW Obama wouldn't say anything to confirm what Pres. Carter said, so this isn't exactly breaking news. I can't even say I'm disappointed because I know it's not "politically expedient" to call racists "racist".

But did ya'll see how Politico is spinning this as a "rejection"? Since when does Gibbs saying that PBO doesn't believe that race is the basis of the criticism he's receiving equates to rejecting Pres. Carter's comments?

You weren't supposed to be able to differentiate between what Gibbs actually said and what the msm would like for you to believe he said. Its your fault for knowing the difference between direct quotes and made up hyperbole. Stop it!

lol

What else was President Obama going to say? I mean, really?

Nothing, I just said I can't even be disappointed.

Just had to work in a "blame Bush" somehow, huh? (rolling eyes)

Bush is to blame. He and Dick and Condi, and Rummy, and Rove and Miers and all the other gop enablers and appeasors.

And Yoo. For God's sakes, don't leave out Yoo.

(yawning, rolling eyes)

Huh?

"We understand that people have disagreements with some of the decisions that we've made and some of the extraordinary actions that had to be taken by both this administration and the previous administration."

Now what does "the previous administration" have to do with anything?

That's not blaming Bush, that's saying both the Obama and Bush administrations had to take drastic measures to save the US economy.

My my my, a little sensitive aren't we? But I understand. It must be very trying to have to defend the WORST PRESIDENT EVVVVVVVVAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

it has everything to do with reality.

The mention of the previous administration is just a statement of fact.

What Caused the Budget Deficit?
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009...

When looking at the deficit it can be broken down into 5 categories:

— “The first category — the business cycle — accounts for 37 percent of the $2 trillion swing.”

— Second, Bush-era legislation “like his tax cuts and the Medicare prescription drug benefit, [that] not only continue to cost the government but have also increased interest payments on the national debt.”

— Third, “Obama’s main contribution to the deficit is his extension of several Bush policies, like the Iraq war and tax cuts for households making less than $250,000 20% of the swing.”

— Fourth, “About 7 percent comes from the stimulus bill that Mr. Obama signed in February.”

— Fifth, “only 3 percent comes from Mr. Obama’s agenda on health care, education, energy and other areas.”

In other words, the very high deficits are not Obama’s fault according to any normal way of assessing political blame.

I recall reading an article written in 2007 that stated that the country was heading towards bankruptcy. The greed of Wall Street, lobbyists, and politicians must end. Didn't greed bring down the Roman Empire? The problem with this "structure" began the minute the government allowed big corporations to intertwine with policies. It's about pleasing and doing the bidding of their wealthy friends in power and not about us regular, struggling folk.

You can actually find writing earlier than that that predicted much of this. The late Molly Ivins was ringing the warning bell way back in 1999.

Molly Ivins October 26
http://www.creators.com/opinion/molly-ivins/mol...

I feel vaguely like Henry Higgins in "My Fair Lady," announcing with gleefully inhumane relish: "She'll regret it, she'll regret it! Ha!"

"I can see her now, Mrs. Freddy Eynsford-Hill, in a wretched little flat above the store!

"I can see her now, not a penny in the till, and the bill collectors knocking at the door!"

Which is to say, the new banking bill is a thoroughly lousy idea, and the party most likely to regret it is us.

The 1999 Gramm-Leach Act is about to replace the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, with the result that bankers, brokers and insurance companies can all get into one another's business. It's a done deal except for the final vote on the conference-committee agreement. The inevitable result will be a wave of mergers creating gigantic financial entities.

"Too Big to Fail" will be the new order of the day. And guess who gets left holding the bag when they're too big to fail? One of these monsters goes down, and it will cost as much as the whole S&L debacle.

Then again she wrote this in 2000

Last Minute Christmas Gifts for Us
http://www.creators.com/opinion/molly-ivins/mol...

Just before it left town last week, Congress passed a little horror called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, brought to us courtesy of heavy lobbying by Wall Street banks and investment brokers.

Frank Portnoy, writing in The New York Times, describes the bill thusly: "First, it lifts a long-standing ban on futures trading in individual stocks, thus allowing investors to buy shares through brokers with very little money down. Second, it protects a lucrative business for bankers — the private financial contracts known as swaps — from being regulated. ... Investors are affected by swaps because they are ... used by many mutual funds and publicly traded companies."

I'm with you D. I will stop blaming bush for fucking up the country when you redumblicans start teabagging against bush for fucking up the country.

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The TARP started under Bush. Obama gets most of the blame for it. Same with the auto bailouts.

But the teabaggers demonstrated against President Bush, didn't they?
Nope.
But they DO demonstrate against President Obama, don't they?
Yep.

Which has what to do with what Carter said about PBO?

I agree with what you said..."no comment" would've been the best route.

Gibbs went on to throw "the previous administration" in the mix because he was claiming the arguments are based on policies that were implemented by a White President. This wasn't the typical time they bring up Bush (when they are saying "Bush left us with"), they were merely saying that maybe those people had the same complaints while Bush was in office. Although, I don't recall seeing any of these "huge" movements against spending when Bush was in office. Were there some people out there (like you probably) who had beef with it? Yes, but I submit that a lot of the wackos we see on TV with the signs "just" got interested in spending when Obama was elected.

I think I know why that is (still looking at some timelines)...

...but I'm hesitant to say here, because somehow my thoughts sometimes seem to end up as someone's official talking point a few days later.

I don't know who here's passing my stuff around, but I really wish you'd stop.

(LOL)

Yep, the main thing that started the "tea bagging" was the bank bailouts and those started under Bush.

The main thing that started the "tea bagging" was the 2008 election. The tea baggers are a bunch of sore loosermen.

"No more bailouts" is a frequent refrain at tea parties.

What about some people with these signs saying...

We're unarmed...."this time"

The zoo has an African Lion
The White House has a lying African

First one represents the right of revolution, as described in the Declaration. It's a bit much (as that wasn't the right to a violent revolution), but whatever.

The second two...yeah, not cool.

Obama is a Muslim is also a frequent refrain at tea parties.

Obama is Hitler is also a frequent refrain at tea parties.

Obama is a socialist is also a frequent refrain at tea parties.

Obama is a monkey is also a frequent refrain at tea parties.

It's not about bailouts etc., it's about Obama.

Oh, NOW they don't want more bailouts. Where were they when Bush was passing them out like a dealer at the table?

and "bailouts" started under Bush.

What Gibbs should have done is offered a polite "no comment" on Carter's statements. Its not necessary to completely contradict what everyone knows is true in order to distance yourself from the comments. When Obama rejects any attempt to speak truthfully about the racist rhetoric being used against him he only guarantees that it will get worse.

Your are correct electicbrotha. No comment would have sufficed.

When Obama rejects any attempt to speak truthfully about the racist rhetoric being used against him he only guarantees that it will get worse.

Word. "No comment" would have sufficed.

WE know the President can't call these pieces of shit out. But don't give them a pass, Gibbs.

What would Obama speaking truthfully on racist rhetoric accomplish? He can't change the minds of the people who are racist, or the people who refuse to acknowledge the racist rhetoric. The people who believe that there is a racist undertone won't change their minds because of what his press secretary said and fully understand that there is no way the WH will acknowledge this publicly.

I saw the briefing and Gibbs was asked about the Carter comments about a dozen times. They were all trying to bait him into agreeing with Carter's remarks so their networks could spend the rest of the week talking about that instead of Healthcare or Afghanistan.

There are some people who are genuinely opposed to the President's specific policies and there is a bigger risk of them getting painted with a racist brush and driving them away from the President completely. This is particularly true of some independent voters whose numbers are at a historic high right now. He needs to be able to win them over on some issues if he is going to be successful going forward.

You are right that the President will not change the minds of racists by calling them out. He can hold them accountable by calling out their Republican enablers in the House and the Senate. He can legitimately ask if it is true you wish to do the people's business why do you engage in vitriol and lies. He can attach the name of Ronald Reagan to the 1986 act that does not allow hospital emergency rooms to turn away anyone whom shows up at their door. President Obama can call out the idea of death panels when they were put into the Medicare adjustment bills over time by Republicans whom added the legislation. He can denounce being called a socialist by asking do they want to end Social Security, Medicare, the Interstate TransportationSystem, et al. he can denounce Eric Cantor and every other JewishAmerican Republican whom stands by and lets the President be accused of being a Nazi when they know the history of Nazism intimately. This knowledge means they know Hitler exterminated the AfricanGerman population that lived in German port cities after coming there from former German colonies in Africa.

This constant excusal of the president to defend hismself has some merit in the political arena. but if you truly believe he is playing chess on 20 levels it he should be able to periodically be able to show it by naming names. His continual failure to do so is seen by me as a continued act of cowardice.

ahhhhhhhhh......(teeheehee)

Anti-abortion group in Wichita says it’s out of money

TOPEKA | The anti-abortion group Operation Rescue may need a little rescuing itself.

The Wichita-based organization, which dogged abortion provider George Tiller for years before his murder last spring, is “completely out of money,” according to a letter President Troy Newman sent to potential donors this week.

Newman blames the recession, which he said has supporters keeping a tight grip on their checkbooks. Giving is down 40 percent compared with previous years, he said.

“We ate right through our savings and we laid several people off and cut back on a lot of projects,” Newman said. “We’re one month away from closing our doors.”

laugh at the rest of the story here:
http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/1448955.html

America , Listen to your Elders! Jimmy Carter speaks the truth. Now is the time for people of good will to support positive undertstanding, not acrmonious division among the races.

Obama lied...again. Cap-and-trade will cost families $1761 per year. It'll be even more than that, if it ever gets passed, i.e. it will cost every family an extra $150+++ a month.

Gawd damn doofus,the heritage foundation?Now I know you idiots dont believe in facts but whatever the cost to transition to a green economy will be a lot less if we continue on the path we on.But for the sake of argument lets say it do cost $1761 a year.How much are you paying right now?My energy cost me $3120 now how much does it cost the average family to station troops to guarantee those energy supplies $100 a month for a family of four.That comes out to $10.800 so far and rising.Dont believe me then here is the website
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article...
So next time your dumbass come on here be prepared.

You have a reading problem, in case you didn't know. U.S. Department of Treasury...

It started out costing each family "just $15.00 a month more..." Now, a few months later, its between $75-150 a month more for each family. You can bet that the final cost (if there is ever a final cost) will be double or triple that $150...at least.

I did read read doofus but again I clicked on the link and lo and behold what did I find. A propaganda piece written by a oil lobbyist and push on a stupid ass like yourself reporter from CBS,Even if a 100 percent auction was a live legislative proposal, which it's not, that math ignores the redistribution of revenue back to consumers. It only looks at one side of the balance sheet. It would only be true if you think the Administration was going to pile all the cash on the White House lawn and set it on fire.

The bill passed by the House sends the value of pollution permits to consumers, and it contains robust cost-containment provisions. Every credible and independent economic analysis of the American Clean Energy and Security Act (such as those done by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, the Energy Information Administration, and the Environmental Protection Agency) says the costs will be small and affordable -- and that the U.S. economy will grow with a cap on carbon.That was the update after the hack got called on his bullshit reporting.Again you are a doofus.But facts dont matter to the mentally challenge only your opinions and you know what they say about opinions.

http://bossip.com/154946/serena-covers-the-hamp...


What great photos of Serena!

Yes they are..but umm....what's up with Star Jones?

thanks

Birther FAIL again:

Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national "birther" movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever files a similar "frivolous" lawsuit in his court.


"(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States," Land states in his order. "Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is 'an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.'"


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/16/connie...>

she's going to wind up in a psych ward somewhere.

Definitely. I thought it would have been soon after that meltdown on MSNBC!

"Let me"... "Let me"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD4X25eoFQo

folks should read the whole opinion, it's hilarious. somebody had a lot of fun mocking our favorite lawyer/dentist/real estate agent. :)

Ol' Oily Tits. This shit would be funny if it wasn't pathetic.

Time for Orly be taken to task and disbarred.

if she keeps filing frivolous lawsuits, she'll definitely end up getting formally sanctioned at the very least, and maybe have her license suspended. Depends on the state's professional responsibility rules.

Time to use the alien and sedition acts and have her dumb ass deported.

That works for me.

A measly $5,000 bond.......un-freaking-believable

Feds probe attack on Ga. reservist as hate crime

ATLANTA — The beating of a black female Army reservist outside a Georgia restaurant is being investigated as a possible hate crime, federal authorities said Wednesday.
Tashawnea Hill was kicked and punched by a white man Sept. 9 as he screamed racial slurs outside a Cracker Barrel in Morrow, about 15 miles southeast of Atlanta, police said. Troy D. West, 47, became enraged when Hill told him to be careful after he nearly hit her 7-year-old daughter while opening the restaurant's door, police said.
FBI spokesman Stephen Emmett said the Justice Department's civil rights division has initiated a probe into the incident.

Full Story:
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/feds-probe...

Someone needs to call Ray-Ray, Pookie and dem to handle that. Seriously.

Wow. I hope she got some brothers, cousins or uncles who can handle that shit for her.

Tell you what, let some man put his hands on my daughter, niece, mother or sister. Let it happen. Ya'll WILL hear about me goin' to jail.

Rush Limpbowel won't ever mention this story on his radio show.

The same prosecutor's office is probably adept in stacking charging against AAs to send them to prison for life without parole.

Just read this on DKos:

I just finished watching Andrea Mitchell interviewing Michael Steele and I almost threw up in my mouth.

The GOP elected Michael Steele to just what he is doing today: innoculate them against the racism charge.

When Michael Steele was elected to be head of the RNC last year many in the black community knew immediately why he was chosen.

Well, here we are. We have indeed come full circle.

Michael Steele just placed himself on the level of the President of the United States by saying to Andrea that both he and the President, "two black men", (yes he said two black men)basically agree that there was no racism going on and that the country should move on.

Looking at this from my perspective, that of a black woman, I knew instinctively what this man was doing.

He has placed the GOP and their race baiting above his very essence. Basically this man is allowing these racist white, disgruntled folk to use him as a front for their insideous and cynical agenda.

They intend to take this President down by blackening him and they are happily using Michael Steele in order to do so.

This in itself is racist!!!!

Let me repeat it again that THIS IS RACIST!!!!!

White racist have used black people like Michael Steele to attack black people before.

This is not new.

Michael Steele is what we would call in the black community a "house negro".

House negros, from the beginning of slavery have always sold out the 'field negros" or the blacks who are not taken in by the glittery stuff that whites like Limbaugh, Hannity, Dobbs and Murdoch dangle in front of them.

Michael Steele is not fooling anyone in our community and I hope he is not fooling alot of white folk with common sense and good will who know that he is not speaking for all black folk.

Finish reading here

Steele is a buck dancing slave catching coon!!!!!

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SLAVE CATCHING COON

No comment. :)

Noted. :)

Of course I do have a question:

What is the difference between a person being paid by the National GOP to attract blacks to vote Repub and a person being paid by the VA GOP to attract blacks to vote Repub?

Of course you do.

In my case, a couple of things:

1. I don't work for the Republican Party of Virginia.
2. My job is to attract people to McDonnell, not necessarilly to the party. If they stay, fine...but if they choose to support him and not support any other Republican that's running, that's fine too.

Spoken like the German High Command at Nuremberg!

As the GOP candidate for VA Governor, how is Next Great White not considered the head of VA GOP?

or does Rush hold that title as well?!

Your points may have been true during the Primary -not that there was one - not so much in a General Election. (interesting side note that there were no party challengers just 'the one' anointed by Pat Robertson to lead us to the promise land)

You work for the GOP candidate, ergo you work for the GOP. I give an Eff who signs your check. Beside with the money being funneled into his hip by the National GOP it makes the designation even harder for you to make.

You have a silly habit of refocusing on semantics & splitting hairs when the argument can't be made otherwise.

I see no diff.

You know, if you're really that interested in how the structure's set up, I'd be more than happy to tell you. In short, RPV has their staffers, and the campaign has theirs.

But something tells me-as I often get from you-that you're more interested in proving your points to yourself than what the facts actually are. Let me know how that turns out for you.

I don't know what D's job is, but Steele isn't there to attract black people, because the Republican party doesn't want to attract black people. It's just a PR effort to attract moderate whites.

this is an interesting idea. It really goes to the idea that racism is being prevented from sitting in the front of the bus or having a dog sicced on you. It excludes the effects of Jim Crow, the FED in redlining communities in the 50's(even Richard Daley saw throught that BS and fought the FEDs for years to prevent the cities water system from being hooked up to the suburbs) and the concept of white privledge.

I honestly believe w/ a direct attack on the enablers these moderates are capable of having an aha moment.

Every corner of this planet we are recognized as the most inovative and accomplished people who have ever lived, our breakthroughs in so many fields,science,entertainment, athletics, engineering, education, politics, buisness, and so forth. But here in this country we still do the dance and we are barely tolerated . Why is that? Is it pure jealousy, envy, hatred, but why are we still trying to justify ourselves to people who are never going to accept you fully without conditions. Let us free ourselves from this wasteful exercise and establish our own commmunties where we can only be free to go back to being entrepreneurs and controllers of our own destinys. This is where our future is and our future generations, this experiment (integration) should be ended and as a people lets pull out and get back to the inner city and re-establish ourselves.

Integration yes, assimilation, no. That, and coming to the realization that we're the only ones who aren't playing a zero-sum game.

I know the conversations are all serious, but you know what - I don't have HBO, but there was a free weekend awhile back and I got to see #1 Ladies Detective Agency, and it's coming tomorrow from Netflix. I don't know why I'm SO excited!

And today at work, one of our radiologists called the neurosurgeon he CANNOT stand a "fuckstick." It was so spontaneous and, apparently, one none of had heard before so it lost much of its intensity since most of us were on the floor howling.

Fuckstick....

I LOVED this show.

I really enjoyed it too. I found the first 4 books at my library and can't help but picture the cast as I read them. I know that Mr. Minghella and Mr. Pollack passed on but I really hope they give it another season (at least).

I read somewhere that they were considering a second season. The chances of that happening may have improved if Jill Scott had been nominated for an Emmy, but...

The 2nd season of #1 Ladies Detective Agency is about to start??

POLITICAL ACTION is what the Panthers, SNCC and countless other organizers
taught us. It works; that generation ended segregation (for better or worse) and crapped all over a useless and illegal war.

Aww, hail to the naw!

I'm watching the MSNBC clip of Dyson on Morning Joke. Please tell me Maria Bartiromo did not fix her fish lips to say, "But someone called Bush a monkey!" as a means to mitigate someone calling Obama a monkey.

Then Joey Scar says that Clinton faced more scrutiny than Obama? Tha hail does that have to do with the racist undertones in the criticism that PBO is receiving?? And don't even get me started on him coming down with a case of White Frat Boy Amnesia when he asked what has Limbaugh said that is racist! Are you freakin' kidding me???

And what's interesting about the whole exchange is that while Mika, Joey Scar and Fish Lips were denying that racism has nothing to do with the criticism PBO is receiving, they were steadily dismissing the opinion and facts of the black man who, btw, they invited on the show for the purpose of giving the p.o.v. from a black perspective.

One question and I am done: Why do certain whites think they get to determine what racism is or is not?

That's like a someone of German ancestry telling a jewish person what is and is not part of the holocaust? Am I missing something

I agree. Also what irks me is when incidents occur related to my color and/gender some will try to come up with every excuse to say 'said incident' wasn't racial--maybe it's how you're dressed, etc. If I'm dressed to the nines, then obviously how I'm dressed isn't part of the equation. Many other people of color also have this same complaint. If it doesn't concern you personally, then why go out of your way to try to justify the actions of a stranger?

Yep, that heffa went there!

As soon as Dyson started speaking .....watch how Mika is looking at him?

Co-Signing errything, Sepia!

where is the clip? Please share

I just watched that clip. Obviously, Dyson held it down as he usually does. But what I took from that exchange, is the usual: the vast majority of White people thinking that they are the final arbiters of whether and when an issue of race exists. And, right on cue, conservative Scarborough denies the existence of racism toward Obama because it makes his political brethren look bad. Liberal Mika denies the existence of racism toward Obama because she feels paternalistically compelled to mollify the angry Black man. And Maria B. simply wanted to say "you niggers are racists, too".

This is why we need our own media outlets. It's gotten to the point that we can't even express our own Black experience without White people saying, "no that's not the case".

Let me say this again: White media personalities now see fit to decree what is and isn't OUR life experience.

How long will we let this go on???

where is the clip? please share

You have to go to MSNBC website, go to tv programs & click on morning sickness.
Regret I can not tell you more. Adobe will not update on my computer to allow me to see the broken down video content.

Amen, Ronnie!

When Joey Scar said, "Well, I didn't hear him (Limbaugh) say that" what he really meant was, "Since I didn't hear him say that, then it isn't true and you, black man, are a liar".

Yeah,

Just dismissed it like that. Their minds were already made up and anything Dyson said was going to be dismissed.
They don't want to get it.

Fish lips? Now you KNOW I won't be able to look at that woman again without wanting to run out and buy some goldfish crackers.

Damn.............now that I think about it...Maria does look like the fish from The Cat In The Hat.

You're right (hee, hee, hee!)

How dare you insult that fish! That fish is a good upstanding citizen with morals!

Marie Bartiromo?Commenting on Racial Matters?She is the one that goes by the moniker money hunny.The image that comes to mind is,she was supposed to report on the financial matters but let us down.So she is like a two bit hooker who while sleeping with her little dick johns telling them how great they are knowing that its a bunch of bullshit.She was worrying about her $20 so at least she can say she got paid.

Very few Wall Streeters ever wanted to sleep w/ her. they saw those lips and they'd say, Money Honey you do know how to whistle don't you. You just pucker up and blow".

Yeah, she looks like she got some talent with those lips.

Damn! LOL!

Went by the name money hunny.

CHUUUUUUURCH!

Not that I care, but bush was compared to a "smirking chimp." I think the website smirkingchimp was started because of bush.

There's a difference between calling someone a monkey because they actually look like a monkey, and calling someone a monkey simply because they are black.

I got the difference...that wasn't the point I was responding to.

Not to play devil's advocate or anything but is there any situation where a white person could say a black person looks like a monkey without being accused of racism?

(I'm running for cover) Please don't flame me.

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HELL NO

No.

I knew a guy in the military that was married to black woman and he thought he had a pass to say black jokes because of his wife and kids. He logic was that there is no way he could be racist because his kids were black. I told him if your wife allows you to call her a monkey that's her business but when you are with me this ain't no zoo and ain't no monkeys over here.

Good response, but that fucker - that fucker was verbally abusive. Being married to a black woman didn't give him a pass to do shit; he took it as pass to express his racist tendencies.

LMAO......that's what I thought.

Exactly. Just like this - I dont call Bush an idiot because he's a white male. I call him an idiot because he suggested me and my gynecologist were involved in some sort of wierd lesbian tryst. I dont know what kind of love Dr. Taylor has been sharing with me but I dare say between the cold azz room and the speculum, I'm in a abusive situation.

ROTFLMBAO!!!

I was about to say "WTF?!?" until I saw Monie's quote.

Damn, Miranda. You almost had me worried there.

Not that I have anything against lesbian trysts. ;)

Per Dubya I've been in some type of loving affair for 3 years with my Ob-Gyn.......well I gotta tell ya...of all the crappy relationships I've had with men, this one with a woman doctor is by far the crappiest...no flowers, dinner, a e-card....not shit. Nothing but "scootch your azz down to the end of this table..MORE! MORE!"...so she can then molest me real proper. After that, is there a kiss? A thank you? Nope...just a "put your clothes on" and bye. I feel cheaper than socks bought at The Dollar Tree...and this is love? (sigh).....per Dubya....love is a goddamn pap smear.

Damn, she didn't even kiss you afterwards?

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Dr. Taylor didn't get to practice her (his?) love with you?

The first time I showed that to the mrs., she was like "WTF?"

Maybe this quote, by the former President, will help:

“Too many OB/GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.”—September 6, 2004

Yes, one of the many "how the hell did he become President?" moments.

It was on a "Worst Celebrity Sayings" on E! one time.

After she heard it, she just looked at me. Wasn't much I could say at that point.

D do you think the GOP will have get any traction with black voters at this rate. I am conservative on a few issues and I hold my nose when I vote Democrat because I really don't see any alternative. I just feel like I wouldn't be welcome at a Republican convention/or meeting. What's your take?

You would be...though I'd say that some of us in the GOP are still learning to welcome on a single issue, instead of shunning them where they don't agree.

And we're still learning how to talk to black voters, and not at/over/around them.

I like Michael Steel as a person but I can't take him seriously when he gets on television and acts like he totally oblivious to the racist undertones that are being thrown around. Next time you talk to him you ask him to explain why Presidential death rates have jumped 400% since January because I can only think of one primary reason.

correction rates=threats LOL

I've told him-and a couple of his staffers-that he has to watch what he's saying, because at the end of the day, it makes life difficult for those doing the ground work. And he acknowledged that.

We'll see, though, what comes out of it.

I don't know though? What else can he say? He has to walk that corporate racial tightrope.

If he says there is no racism he gets it because it's not true. If he says there are some racist elements he hears it from the GOP. I don't know? I wouldn't want that job. Would would you say?

You have to remember that the RNC's contribution to the tea party effort has been nil. Even when local/state units try to get involved, they're often shunned.

I would take the job, but not right now...and my approach would be completely different.

It's the equivalent of 512 money they take. Gives them plausible denialiablity.

Yep.....its really almost like a bad skit.

I wish I could tell you that, but she really said it. Although I don't recall anyone calling Bush a monkey. Of course there were the inevitable "Curious George" references.

And see yal'll, that's what's so frustrating about discussing race with white people. When you try to explain your viewpoint to them, 9 times out of 10 they dismiss you as if your view isn't valid. That's why I don't want to discuss anything with them. They don't want to get it, and I think it's because they think if they allowed themselves to get it, they would be surrendering their vice grip on the societal and economic power structure.

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One time I talked to some lady with EXCESSIVE CHIN HAIRS!! :>)

That elicited an agitated response! :>)

I don't recall the term 'monkey' being used. "Chimp" - oh yeah, all the time.

And to me - chimp and monkey are not the same thing - the characterizations IOW.

figures.....what else is new?

"According to Atlantic Monthly’s Atlantic Wire, the 50 most influential pundits in the U.S. are–wait for it–mostly white guys. And how was this determined?

http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2009/09/16/...

"The final list is the result of an algorithm that brings together these three factors.

They don’t provide a name for this algorithm, but if they did it might be the Racist, Misogynist Algorithm of Self-Fulfilling Prophecies because all this careful data collection and analysis led to a list that by my count includes only 9 women (all white) and 2 men of color. According to my algorithm to analyze their algorithm, the Atlantic ls the latest winner of the Tillie Olsen Silences Fail Award."

Probably the same "algorithm" used by Arbitron to rank black radio stations.

Intel Chief Reveals: 200,000 People Work For U.S. Spy Apparatus
That works out to 1 spy for every 1500 Americans.Now say it with me (GAWD-DAMN!!!)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/16/us-spy...

That 200,00 are likely on a payroll. Some days I wonder how many willing participants are still "out there" from a renamed "Operation TIPS".

It took them a week to think of this:

An interesting new pattern has emerged from some Republicans. Both during and after yesterday's House admonishment of Rep. Joe Wilson's (R-SC) outburst of "You lie!" during President Obama's speech to Congress, GOP House members have been emerging to say that it was Obama who started the breach of decorum.

• After the vote was taken, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) declared on the House floor that Obama had insulted Congress, by saying that his opponents were lying about his health care proposals. "He comes in here talking about a lie ... He says we're making wild claims," said Gohmert. "That's no way to act when you're invited into somebody else's house."

It's interesting to see Gohmert take such a sudden interest in the gentlemanly etiquette of the House, considering how he too was heckling Obama during the speech -- albeit through the silent display of a sign, rather than shouting out.

During the floor debate on the disapproval resolution, Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) said that Wilson had been right on the substance of the immigration question, and quoted the Bible in order to show how Obama had incited Wilson's anger.

"You know, the Old Book tells us, 'A harsh word stirs up anger.' Well we might have seen a little bit of that last week. In the midst of a highly partisan speech by the President of the United States, Joe made a mistake," said Pence. "Immediately, after the speech was over, Joe recognized his mistake and he offered his sincere apology to the President and the President's staff -- and he was right to apologize. But it's important to note that despite his admitted error, the broader national interest was actually served."

Rep. Steve King (R-IA) also argued last night that Obama "threw the first punch."

"A lot of us said, well, this health care bill is gonna fund illegals, and the President said, 'Prominent politicians are lying to you.' He said that on the floor of the House of Representatives," King said. "I don't think there's ever been a President comes to the House of Representatives as a guest of the members of the House and makes a declaration like he did. I mean, the President threw the first punch."

And King said of Wilson: "God bless him. He said what we were thinking."

Wow, really? The President points out that lies are lies and like the hit dogs they were, the republicans started hollering. What a pathetic bunch of WATBs

Man, I'd love to hang my foot up Steve King's ass.

You & me both!

He's the FUCKING president you fucking DIMWITS!! jezzusfucking....

Bush stood before congress ALL THE FUCKING TIME AND LIED! Now stop it.

And Gomert - isn't he the one that looks like some ole hound dog?

Quick, call a wahhhbulance!

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reframe argument... I think a WEB and Cultural Pluralism.
Demand recognition of the contribution African Americans have made (on our terms); and not just in a patronizing, shortest month of the year kinda way.
In art, political, mass media, CONSTRUCT THE NARRATIVE!!!!
It is most unfortunate our children have NOT BEEN educated in the fine art
of POLITICAL ACTION; Marxist, Socratic, Platonic or something new and exciting.

Glenn Beck's facade starts cracking: How dare they compare me to McCarthy? I compare me to Murrow!
Money Quote
But really, Beck did make at least one accurate statement here: He's no Edward R. Murrow.

Hell, he's not even a Krusty the Klown.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn-b...

Beck isn't good enough to shine Murrow's shoes let alone claim or imply he emulated Murrow in any fashion.

Beck has said, "I'm an entertainer; I'm a pundit" depending on where he is.

Webmaster

have you been receiving multiple complaints about this site?
I have found it extremely slow to load to the point it times out.

yep, happening to me too

FYI. Within my firefox browser, it hangs with message "Read s.ytimg.com". That's the location where timeout is occurring for me.

I encourage (finally) this effort to call a spade a spade (pardon me).
The racial undercurrent/subtext/narrative has been as obvious as the nose on my face since the candidate declared. I thought it would make a fine book. I have yet to read Gwen Ifill's book, but I need to quickly. Ex presidents, Tim Wise on CNN, Southern Poverty Law Center, and more than a few other are being taken very seriously these days with this charge and maybe, just maybe, the dialogue/debate can move into the mainstream. The president denied the racial underpinning the other day and we would not expect anything less (not a bad thing, just politics), but perhaps he should review the Harold Washington campaign and fallout in North Illinois. We need to keep this a prominent feature in the media. STEP UP

Court rules that KBR employee’s gang rape wasn’t a personal injury ‘arising in the workplace.’

In 2005, Jamie Lee Jones was gang-raped by her co-workers while she was working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad. In an apparent attempt to cover up the incident, the company then put her in a shipping container for at least 24 hours without food, water, or a bed, and “warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she’d be out of a job.” Even more insultingly, the DOJ resisted bringing any criminal charges in the matter. KBR argued that Jones’ employment contract warranted her claims being heard in private arbitration — without jury, judge, public record, or transcript of the proceedings. After 15 months in arbitration, Jones and her lawyers went to court to fight the KBR claims. Yesterday, a court ruled in favor of Jones.”

Full Story:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/16/jones-sue-kbr/

Halliburton & KBR are nothing more than terrorists! Evil hearted terrorists.

The DOJ and the DOD need to re open charges and investigations against KBR. I hope she owns them

Marcus Garvey was right, let us end this failed experiment called integration, if an educated a man as Barack Obama can not be accepted and respected while holding the highest office in this land, then it ain't happening. Wake up Black people we have given this country everything and more and they still don't love or respect you. What has made you a truly special people was born and evolved from your struggles, but what we lack is community, we have to reject the idea of ever integrating which is only assimilation into whiteness and understand its effect on our once proud and thriving community. Whenever you are assimilating yourself in someone else's culture you are at best an imitatation of the original which is never as good, look at what makes you unique around the world, Jazz,Hip Hop,Dance but all these things came about before we integrated into this white society and lost our identity. What I am proposing is that if we are going to progress and prosper let us reclaim our roots, that's right I am calling for all you so called Black Professionals to move back and claim the inner cities that beg for our return and let us build our communities and buisness and have a village where our children can thrive and have self esteem without all the drama. This is my call to you and NOW is the time.

I actually think integration is overrated. There were plenty of all-Black communities that were successful in the past and are successful now. An argument could be made that integration has made things worse (in fact, my African American History Professor did make that claim once). Too much focus is placed on simply mixing the racial groups and not enough is put on actually giving people the tools to succeed.

I actually wrote a paper about education in the African American community in my Civil Rights class when I was a 2L, and I think the sense of family/community is what really helps Blacks to succeed moreso than any form of integration. There were quite a few all Black schools that were doing a GREAT job of educating young Black children before integration. Maybe we are losing a bit of our identity as a community.

My Black Psychology professor also had an entire section pretty much devoted to that as well. He made the point that even though there is a melting pot, everything in the garden grows separately before it goes into the pot. That's why it tastes good, because each veggie has the opportunity to grow and flourish within its own first. I'll never forget that class...one because I wasn't registered in it, it was in between two classes the first semester I moved off campus and my roommate had it. LOL..and two he was one helluva professor.

it was a Black Psychology class? Or it was a Psychology class with a Black professor?

and he has a point. Here's part of what I wrote about it in my paper:

Earlier in this paper, questions were raised about how African American students have been so successful in the past in predominately Black schools, and that reason is the sense of community. When African Americans go to these schools, they see people that look like them, and people that had lives similar to theirs. While I don’t have any scientific data to back up my point, I do have personal experience and reasons for believing the community aspect is essential to achieving quality education for African American students. Here’s a hypothetical: There are three children in a typical African American family where both parents went to college and received degrees, the father also has a Masters, and they both have full time jobs. There were two boys in this family, and one girl, and they are all about five years apart in birth.

The eldest son graduated from a predominately African American high school where he performed relatively well and participated in school sports (baseball), he then went on to a primarily white college (PWC), he remained in school for a year (did not participate in any sports), and never went back.

The middle son also went to a predominately Black high school, but this school as a “college prep” school, where he also performed well. He too went on to a PWC. He stayed about a year before dropping out, but is currently seeking to go back to school and become a nurse. Both of the boys now have two children.

The youngest child, and only girl went to the same school as the middle child. She was the class president, sang in the choir, and played volleyball. Upon her graduation, she decides to attend an HBCU where she has continued to be active in the choir. She just finished her second year and will be returning for her third. She doesn’t have any children.

The only real difference between these children is their choice of college. They were all products of school that were de facto segregated, they were all involved in extra-curricular activities, and they all went straight to college upon their high school graduation. The only difference is one decided to go to an HBCU. Of course, this is a very unscientific study, but it’s interesting that the youngest girl chose to attend the same college as her two older cousins who all went to her same de facto segregated high school, and they all participated in extra-curricular activities (football, softball, band, choir, mock trial, science Olympiad, chess club, etc.). Her cousins both graduated from this HBCU within 4 years with honors and are now pursuing different career goals. So out of this extended family 5 children all with pretty much the same educational backgrounds through high school, the three that went to an HBCU either lasted longer than the two that didn’t, or graduated with honors within 4 years. That is no accident.

The sense of family that an African American, or even a White person, finds at an HBCU is a powerful motivator. There it’s okay to be smart, everyone is smart or they wouldn’t be there. It’s okay to be driven, everyone is driven there or they wouldn’t be there. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but HBCUs graduate a lot of professional African Americans every year.

There are traditions in the African American community, that when passed down can be very powerful motivators to African American youth. What they need to see is someone succeeding that came from where they came from. To see people that you watched when you were growing up go and be successful in their lives, whether that means pursing an academic or skills-based career, can show those youth that they can do something other than play sports to be successful. This is why mentoring programs are so important to all youth, but especially those youth in the African American community. They need to know that someone out there cares about them, be it someone in their family, or someone outside of it. Also, if more professional African Americans get into mentoring and have positive impacts on the lives of these youth, when those youth become professionals themselves, they would hopefully return to the communities and get involved with a youth that much like them needs that extra guidance. This would create a new cycle or positive role models outside of the family of these African American children as well as create a network which will grow. That sense that being an African American does not mean you are automatically inferior to any other racial group needs to be restored, that sense of pride needs to be returned, and one way to do that will be very successful would be through restoring that sense of community to the African American community.

I must respectfully disagree with some of the reasoning in the above.
1) "The only real difference between these children is their choice of college." - the sibling that stayed in school (so far) is female and does not have any children. It is my observation that black females tend to do better in school (as long as they do not get pregnant) than males.
2) Unfortunately mostly black high schools generally do a poor job of preparing students for the rigors of college. In many cases a B+ student at a mostly black high school is equivalent to a C student at a white suburban high school. HBCU often have to give their incoming freshman remedial courses just to get them upto speed.
3) The HBCU might do a lot more hand holding for the incoming freshmen. AT the PWCUs that I attended, it was sink or swim and we were graded on a C curve. But then that was in the 1960s.

1.) Black females do tend to stay in school longer, why is that? But I think if she had done as her brothers did, she would have only lasted a year.

2.) the second brother and the sister both went to the same high school, and the HS was college prep, and their cousins also went to that college prep HS. None of them had to take any remedial courses.

3. My hand wasn't held at my HBCU, it was pretty much "sink or swim" I know a lot of people who didn't have the GPA they needed after their first semester because they weren't focused. Of course, they did get themselves out of it because they wanted to pledge and had to have a 2.5 to pledge on our campus. There were a few who never managed to dig themselves out though. You may get more chances at an HBCU, but you still have to make the grade. Sometimes I think they are a bit TOO nurturing at HBCUs because some people don't seem to want to leave.

*Edit* RE #1: There are more females actually GOING to college to, which is why it may seem like more of them stay in college longer. I know on my campus we had 3 dorms for girls and 2 for boys.

It was a 'Black Psychology" class, taught by a former Black Panther.....LOL.....so every Mon, Wed and Fri at 11am, you had angry students walking outta that room. LOL

That paper sounds really interesting - I fear that sense of community is being more and more removed with each passing year.

"It was a 'Black Psychology" class, taught by a former Black Panther.....LOL.....so every Mon, Wed and Fri at 11am, you had angry students walking outta that room. LOL"


LMAO! That reminds me of when 'Roots' first aired back in 1977. I was four, but I remember watching it, and of course the main thing I remember was Kunta Kinte being whipped and made to call himself 'Toby'.

My moms used to do factory work back then, so she'd be be tired at night when 'Roots' was on.

LOL, she told me she went to work the next day "Black folks was mad at some white folks at work". Of course, she didn't know why because she fell asleep when 'Roots' was on.

She said management had to speak to everyone and calm some folks down.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

ROFLMAO

Wow, I didn't know there was such a class. What school was this?

The paper was my perspective on De Facto Segregation it was written after those two cases came down from the Supreme Court about affirmative action in magnet schools.

This was FAMU - Dr. Baldwin's class...lol..I'll NEVER forget that class.

It's time for the President to put on brass knuckles.

After months of trying to play nice with the Republicans, Max Baucus releases a bill with no public option and no republican support. It’s a watered down piece of pro insurance industry legislation that won’t actually make things better, and probably will make things worse.

elfrijole's diary :: :: With a requirement included to force people to buy insurance, this has gone from a piece of healthcare reform bill, to the golden goose that will create millions of new customers for insurance thieves (and that is what they are) that are already pulling in immoral amounts of profits on the backs of dying poor and middle class people.

Is this just about healthcare? No, it isn’t. Since the 1960’s, the left has been rolled by the right, even when we have won elections. On the issues, from healthcare to education to environmentalism, to election reform, the people of this country consistently back progressive positions (if not democrats), yet we fail to govern from a position of strength every time we are elected. We are distracted or bullied by the far right.

When Bill Clinton got busted for the blow job heard around the world, it was after a long and winding witch hunt that started with special prosecutor Ken Starr looking at Hillary’s real estate dealings. The total tab was about 75 million dollars. Anyone remember how much George W. Bush spent up to investigate 9/11? 14 million. How does the right do that?

I’ll tell you how; they are the school yard bullies grown up. They are really an insecure and undereducated lot who use force and intimidation to make up for their short comings. What about the left? Well, we are generally inclined to negotiation and compromise. We like facts and studies. Knowledge and inquiry make sense to us, and we feel as if, given the right information, the right will "get it" and find common ground with us.

We are wrong. They will not come to their senses. They rely on their gut, and their gut is controlled by fear. They’re afraid of change. Whether it’s electric car (only for sissies up here in Idaho) or openly gay people, they just prefer them to go away.

The people who "represent" the right, politicians, corporations, pundits, and preachers are not interested in change. They are, and always have been interested in one thing; power. They are experts at manipulating their base, and they feel no moral obligation to not manipulate them. They will do what they have to keep the status quo.

All through high school, I had a guy who didn’t like me much. He was bigger and stronger and more popular. I couldn’t just avoid him, we had classes together and played four years of football together. In my senior year, I accidently stepped on his toe while waiting in a line for a drill at football practice. He pushed me in the back, called me a name and told me to watch myself. I finally turned around, looked him straight in the eyes, and said "Why don’t you just kick my ass and get it over with. Let’s go." He immediately grumbled something incoherent and turned his attention to a friend. He never bothered me again.

Mr. President, you are dealing with people who would screw themselves over just to see you fail. They do not respond to intelligence or compromise, or those silly things like facts. It is time you turned around and looked them in the eyes and called their bluff. The majority of American people truly need healthcare reform (not "insurance" reform.) If we can’t get that from a Democratic administration with a Democratic congress, then a lot of progressives need to stop and re-evaluate why we are supporting you.

Mr. President, roll up your sleeves, put on your brass knuckles and get ready to throw the first punch. The cowards will back down if you stand up. They always do.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/16/782...

Today's Conversation Whitney Houston Oprah Interview Day 2 pt 1: Whitney Is An Angel, Bobby The Devil http://bit.ly/HkPlV

Today's Conversation Whitney Houston Oprah Interview Day 2 pt 2: How Whitney Finally Left http://bit.ly/11mv6l

I think someone else said something to this effect earlier.

I'm completely ambivalent about Whitney & that CD.
I wish her well, however, I just don't care what she's doing anymore.

Raymond Johnson is speaking the foreign language of differential equations, his students furiously taking notes as figures fly across a chalkboard at Rice University.

KP/dt=rP(1-P/K)

There's no time to talk about how 45 years ago Johnson made history as the first African-American to enroll at Rice, and the ultimately unsuccessful lawsuit from alumni that tried to stop him. He's back at the school as a professor not to dwell on the past, but to teach new ways of thinking about complex mathematical concepts.

“They're probably a little smarter than we were,” he says of the students in his classroom, “and they certainly have more resources than we had. I would have loved to have access to the Internet.”

<snip>

Johnson, now 66, never set out to be an agent of change.

“I was just going to graduate school,” he says. “I was much more focused on my work.”

Some of his students have never heard the story; others discovered it while searching the Web for information on their professors.

“I thought it was really cool, to be taught by someone who has been through that,” says Marissa Lawson, a freshman from Sherman.

Cool, agreed classmate Kareem Ayoub, of Katy, but not the most important thing. “He's a really good professor. Your achievements don't necessarily define what you're doing now.”
‘A big deal'

Johnson says that being the first African-American at Rice and, later, the first African-American faculty member at the University of Maryland were secondary to his pursuit of mathematics. However, his return to the Rice campus this fall carries symbolic weight.

Rice's first black student returns, this time to teach

Marcus Garvey was right, let us end this failed experiment called integration, if an educated a man as Barack Obama can not be accepted and respected while holding the highest office in this land, then it ain't happening. Wake up Black people we have given this country everything and more and they still don't love or respect you. What has made you a truly special people was born and evolved from your struggles, but what we lack is community, we have to reject the idea of ever integrating which is only assimilation into whiteness and understand its effect on our once proud and thriving community. Whenever you are assimilating yourself in someone else's culture you are at best an imitatation of the original which is never as good, look at what makes you unique around the world, Jazz,Hip Hop,Dance but all these things came about before we integrated into this white society and lost our identity. What I am proposing is that if we are going to progress and prosper let us reclaim our roots, that's right I am calling for all you so called Black Professionals to move back and claim the inner cities that beg for our return and let us build our communities and buisness and have a village where our children can thrive and have self esteem without all the drama. This is my call to you and NOW is the time.

What do you think about this?

Barack Obama is Jackie Robinson in 1947

When Jackie Robinson was signed to the Dodgers the GM, Branch Rickey, told Robinson that he would be unable to fight back against the inevitable racial slurs and invective that he would be sure to receive on the field. He would just have to put up with it. If he fought back, he would be blamed, no matter what the facts. Rickey initially bound Robinson to this promise for three years.

Barack Obama receives racial invective every week. Some of it is veiled, some of it is not so veiled. But this White House has chosen to either not respond, or if they do, to bypass the racial politics and simply treat the attacks as if they were part of regular every day political rough and tumble. If Obama or his senior White House staff were to call out the racists directly, THEY would be ones accused of playing racial politics, and Obama would be accused of being the scary "angry black man". That is exactly what the racists want. In the meantime, it is up to us and other parties to call out the racists and not allow their hatred to go unanswered. We have to respond, because the White House cannot.

It isn't 1947. We have done everything including running the entire military complex w/ our hand on the button.

Agreed. AAs as group have made many contributions and personal sacrifices that receives little attention. Using Robinson merely create a frame of reference to the resistance of all of the "firsts" in American history.

I disagree because while Robinson carried the unspoken hopes of African American America Barack Obama was not an unspoken hope picked by one white man. He can speak and he should. This idea of being above the fight is nonsense and pure cowardice. there are multiple ways to fight racism.
He can call them out as enablers of intolerance and supporters of vitriol. He can remind them of what Nazism did. he can point out that death panels, illegals being treated at hospitals are the direct result of amendments entered by Republicans.

It needs to be understood like this, except this isn't a movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0RLyxP13o

Strongly disagree. The recent "Gates saga" with PBO's mild injection of "stupidly" at the press conference derailed and over shadowed the substance of his health care message and required the infamous "beer" photo op to shut the hail storm down.

Over the fray is where PBO belongs. Calling PBO out and declaring an act of cowardice for failing to engage the bobbleheads and likes of Glen Beck is impracticable because there is NO MATCH.

All of the noise generation since PBO taken office has proven to be certifiable incoherent gibberish. Why wait his time, attention, or energy? His supporters can handle the distractions.

You seem to forget it was the President whom opened the Gates fiasco my announcing he didn't have all the facts. As readers here astutely pointed out had he bothered to obtain the facts Officer Crowley violated the law by not leaving Skippy's house after he verified it was his house under Massachusetts law.

This President has been outmatched since day one. You keep making the excuse that running a campaign is the same as running the government. Whether you think Bush over reach was too much the Presidency is the bully pulpit. You walk tall carry, speak softly and use a big stick on problems. Not stutter cowardly over an issue you can take the upper hand on. This is even more true when your surrogates can't even show up on sunday and push the discussed message.
I stand by my statement he is a coward because he hasn't even attempted to deal w/ the issue and in fact openly denies it exists. He is a coward.

Remember Fort Pillow

NYT on the Senate Healthcare plan:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/health/policy...

Well, the healthcare debate went personal this week. Self-employed and my provider sent out quote to continue coverage. Deductible went up 2000%, monthly premium tripled. Something must be done: http://www.blacknbougie.com/2009/09/well-now-it...

"My inner Shaniqua takes over"

LOL Excuse Me! *fingersnap* *fingersnap* But, shouldn't that been "My inner Serena"?

With tears rolling down my face, I'll try to get serious again.

You are not alone, I read earlier that up 42% of families annual income is going to insurance compaines. If there ever was a need to march on D.C. to bring the highjacking of America to the forefront that time is NOW.

Family health costs outpace inflation and wage growth

The average cost of job-based family health insurance climbed 5 percent to $13,375 in 2009, making this the 10th straight year that health care premiums have increased faster than workers' wages and overall inflation have.

Insurance costs have increased 131 percent since 1999, when a year of family coverage cost about $5,791 , according to the 2009 Employer Health Benefits Survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research & Educational Trust .

That supercharged growth rate far outpaces the 38 percent increase in wages and 28 percent growth of inflation over the same period.

The inability of consumers and employers to finance that growth in cost is helping to drive the heated debate over how to revamp the nation's heath care system.

At a time when employers are laying off workers, facing revenue declines and looking for ways to cut costs, health insurance is proving a substantial financial burden.

Well tell me when and where the march is and I will get my boots on. Generally mild-mannered but ready to go radical on this one. No justice, no peace! <-- or some such chant.

I am soooooooooooooooo stressed out right now, bills are piling up, still can't find a job, parents getting on my nerves. It is not fun robbing Peter to pay Paul. I really wish I could just pay off all of the credit card debt, that would be a huge help.

HEEY Muzikal203: Ima STR8 jump in here and PA-RAY on your behalf!!

"When U R down 2 nothing - - God is UP 2 something!!" I'm BELIEVIN on your behalf!!

You Are Not Alone - Michael Jackson

God Bless U! ***HUGS***

So sorry to hear that Muzikal. It helps me when I am down to sometimes consider other times Ive been at the end of my rope and how those situations were resolved. Writing them down has proved very effective in eliminating some stress. Just a thought...

Though this burden is large to everything there is a season. It won't be like this always.

thoughts and prayers are with you....

"She may be a hermaphrodite, but so what? She is still a girl." Those were the words of South African Sports Minister Makhenkesi Stofile, who last week demanded that the International Association of Athletics Federations apologize for violating runner Caster Semenya's privacy in the face of widespread, but unconfirmed, reports that the results of her gender test had been leaked to the media.

In August, Semenya won the women's 800-meter gold medal at the World Athletics Championships in Berlin. But upon her victory, the 18-year-old South African runner came under scrutiny by competitors, who questioned whether Semenya was female or intersex, with some male and some female sexual characteristics. Soon the IAAF became involved, demanding testing to confirm Semenya's sex.

At a Friday press conference, Stofile hinted at possible legal action against the IAAF.

Seeing South African officials stand up for Semenya and her right to define her own gender is extraordinary because -- when this happened just three years ago -- the results were much different.

Caster Semenya Is a Woman, Tests or No Tests"

IS YOUR BABY RACIST

Please tell me that this cover of Newsweek isn't for real?

http://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/0...

Not only is this low-down, but it's surely intended to suggest that if a White person is a racist, then so must this beautiful White baby be.

Any chance the cover is related to the recent study that demonstrated that babies as young as 6mos old judge others by their skin color? It was pretty big story last week.

Is the cover of this magazine stupid? yes
Is your comment correct? yes

It's real! My workplace has a copy (library). The front section of the article has a black baby.

grain of salt...

Hanky Head Alert!

Ron Christie on MSNBC.

ROFL

Lol lol lol so wrong... I denounce and reject you immediately