<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Why Working With the GOP on Healthcare Reform is IDIOCY</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:13:11 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349990</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:21:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349990</guid> <description>EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Booky</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349991</link> <dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349991</guid> <description>F bipartisianship.  The gop is, and  always has been, on the wrong side of history and always will be on the wrong side of history.  Remember how not one republican voted for the Budget under Clinton and shut the country down out of spite?  See how far that got them?  Remember how they were against the Civil Rights Act, Medicare/Medicade and the Equal Pay for Women Act and Roe v. Wade?  They are always on the wrong side so F em and Lou Dobbs, Rush, Sean, and all the other right wingers who hate Obama more than they love their country.  F em hard.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F bipartisianship.  The gop is, and  always has been, on the wrong side of history and always will be on the wrong side of history.  Remember how not one republican voted for the Budget under Clinton and shut the country down out of spite?  See how far that got them?  Remember how they were against the Civil Rights Act, Medicare/Medicade and the Equal Pay for Women Act and Roe v. Wade?  They are always on the wrong side so F em and Lou Dobbs, Rush, Sean, and all the other right wingers who hate Obama more than they love their country.  F em hard.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TruthSeeker</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349995</link> <dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:28:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349995</guid> <description>Thanks, keke12...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that was a great read:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;The attempt to attract GOP support was the pretext which Democrats used to compromise continuously and water down the bill.  But -- given the impossibility of achieving that goal -- isn&#039;t it fairly obvious that a desire for GOP support wasn&#039;t really the reason the Democrats were constantly watering down their own bill?  Given the White House&#039;s central role in negotiating a secret deal with the pharmaceutical industry, its betrayal of Obama&#039;s clear promise to conduct negotiations out in the open (on C-SPAN no less), Rahm&#039;s protection of Blue Dogs and accompanying attacks on progressives, and the complete lack of any pressure exerted on allegedly obstructionists &quot;centrists,&quot;&lt;b&gt; it seems rather clear that the bill has been watered down, and the &quot;public option&quot; jettisoned, because that&#039;s the bill they want -- this was the plan all along.,&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s the fear in my gut.    As I think back, certain things set off alarm bells for me, and stand out in my mind as evidence that Obama admin has already &lt;i&gt;negotiated&lt;/i&gt;(this word is a joke, because you have to actually GET something in return in a negotiation.   A better phrase would be &quot;given away&quot;.) everything.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I recall him saying something to the effect that he was the only thing standing between them and the pitchforks(paraphrasing).   &quot;Them&quot; being the Wall Street tycoons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;During the election, and even after, he would virtually LEAP to smack down progressives if they got too bold.   He would not hesitate to smack down anyone who made a bold statement on race.    I found it heavy-handed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I recall him inserting an amendment to ensure BONUSES would be paid at the former AIG, while leading the public to believe that he was behind finding ways to prevent those same bonuses being paid.   When the news broke, I recall him pacing back and forth on stage, saying he would &quot;take&quot; responsibility for it.    I was deeply offended by that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now he&#039;s actively undermining the public option....   trying to smear it as being unimportant to reform, after saying repeatedly that it WAS important.    So, both things can&#039;t be true...which one was the lie, Mr President?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, keke12&#8230;</p><p>that was a great read:<br /><blockquote><i>The attempt to attract GOP support was the pretext which Democrats used to compromise continuously and water down the bill.  But &#8212; given the impossibility of achieving that goal &#8212; isn&#39;t it fairly obvious that a desire for GOP support wasn&#39;t really the reason the Democrats were constantly watering down their own bill?  Given the White House&#39;s central role in negotiating a secret deal with the pharmaceutical industry, its betrayal of Obama&#39;s clear promise to conduct negotiations out in the open (on C-SPAN no less), Rahm&#39;s protection of Blue Dogs and accompanying attacks on progressives, and the complete lack of any pressure exerted on allegedly obstructionists &#8220;centrists,&#8221;<b> it seems rather clear that the bill has been watered down, and the &#8220;public option&#8221; jettisoned, because that&#39;s the bill they want &#8212; this was the plan all along.,</b> </i></p></blockquote><p>That&#39;s the fear in my gut.    As I think back, certain things set off alarm bells for me, and stand out in my mind as evidence that Obama admin has already <i>negotiated</i>(this word is a joke, because you have to actually GET something in return in a negotiation.   A better phrase would be &#8220;given away&#8221;.) everything.</p><p>I recall him saying something to the effect that he was the only thing standing between them and the pitchforks(paraphrasing).   &#8220;Them&#8221; being the Wall Street tycoons.</p><p>During the election, and even after, he would virtually LEAP to smack down progressives if they got too bold.   He would not hesitate to smack down anyone who made a bold statement on race.    I found it heavy-handed.</p><p>I recall him inserting an amendment to ensure BONUSES would be paid at the former AIG, while leading the public to believe that he was behind finding ways to prevent those same bonuses being paid.   When the news broke, I recall him pacing back and forth on stage, saying he would &#8220;take&#8221; responsibility for it.    I was deeply offended by that.</p><p>Now he&#39;s actively undermining the public option&#8230;.   trying to smear it as being unimportant to reform, after saying repeatedly that it WAS important.    So, both things can&#39;t be true&#8230;which one was the lie, Mr President?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: keke12</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349997</link> <dc:creator>keke12</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349997</guid> <description>Yes! Grassley, who has promoted fear of death panels and government control.  Grassley, who has openly admitted that he won&#039;t be able to sell the bill to any  conservatives! I am so sick of progressives trying to pander to these Blue Dog obstructionists.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you add up the state populations this gang of six represent, the total is about 1/5 the state of Cali;  yet they have so much power: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/07/the-powers-that-be.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is going on here?  Why do they have such a strong hold on healthcare reform?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! Grassley, who has promoted fear of death panels and government control.  Grassley, who has openly admitted that he won&#39;t be able to sell the bill to any  conservatives! I am so sick of progressives trying to pander to these Blue Dog obstructionists.</p><p>If you add up the state populations this gang of six represent, the total is about 1/5 the state of Cali;  yet they have so much power:</p><p><a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/07/the-powers-that-be.php" rel="nofollow">http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009&#8230;</a></p><p>What is going on here?  Why do they have such a strong hold on healthcare reform?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: itgurl_29</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349996</link> <dc:creator>itgurl_29</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:46:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349996</guid> <description>It&#039;s not like they&#039;re trying to work with folks who just don&#039;t want reform. It&#039;s that they&#039;re trying to work with folks like Grassley, the very people who are out there pushing things like that &quot;death&quot; panel&quot;. It&#039;s ridiculous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to hear what POTUS has to say on that conference call. I&#039;m gonna keep calling the WH and letting them know we want real choice and competition.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not like they&#39;re trying to work with folks who just don&#39;t want reform. It&#39;s that they&#39;re trying to work with folks like Grassley, the very people who are out there pushing things like that &#8220;death&#8221; panel&#8221;. It&#39;s ridiculous.</p><p>I want to hear what POTUS has to say on that conference call. I&#39;m gonna keep calling the WH and letting them know we want real choice and competition.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349998</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:46:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349998</guid> <description>thanks for this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349992</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349992</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/18/AR2009081803321.html?hpid=sec-health&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/18/AR2009081803321.html?hpid=sec-health" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar&#8230;</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: keke12</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349994</link> <dc:creator>keke12</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:15:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349994</guid> <description>So true, so true!  The GOP can care less how low their approval ratings are.  They do not want healthcare reform at all!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I am very discouraged by the way Obama is handling all of this.  I have been feeling for a long time that the Obama Admin. wants a watered down bill....why else would you keep trying to work with people who openly admit that they don&#039;t want reform?  Why would you attack those who are most supportive of strong legislature and the public option?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I read this article by Glen Greenwald from Salon.  His blog is a daily read for me, I trust him and he is intellectually honest even when it hurts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/19/obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It really has me worried about the direction of this healthcare legislation. We still have some time and nothing is concrete yet.  I do think that something will get passed, but I am worried about the strength of the bill.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true, so true!  The GOP can care less how low their approval ratings are.  They do not want healthcare reform at all!</p><p>But I am very discouraged by the way Obama is handling all of this.  I have been feeling for a long time that the Obama Admin. wants a watered down bill&#8230;.why else would you keep trying to work with people who openly admit that they don&#39;t want reform?  Why would you attack those who are most supportive of strong legislature and the public option?</p><p>Also, I read this article by Glen Greenwald from Salon.  His blog is a daily read for me, I trust him and he is intellectually honest even when it hurts.</p><p> <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/19/obama/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/&#8230;</a></p><p>It really has me worried about the direction of this healthcare legislation. We still have some time and nothing is concrete yet.  I do think that something will get passed, but I am worried about the strength of the bill.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TruthSeeker</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349993</link> <dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:03:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349993</guid> <description>Don&#039;t ever negotiate with people who have nothing to lose.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t ever negotiate with people who have nothing to lose.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-349999</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:57:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-349999</guid> <description>Congressman Weiner did not put Joe Scarborough on blast. It was nuke. Mika Brezhenski is the only person on NBC programming worse than David Gregory. .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trumka is very good. I wish he would go out into the these Blue Dog districts and have meetings. His point about one carrier in an area would resonate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congressman Weiner did not put Joe Scarborough on blast. It was nuke. Mika Brezhenski is the only person on NBC programming worse than David Gregory. .</p><p>Trumka is very good. I wish he would go out into the these Blue Dog districts and have meetings. His point about one carrier in an area would resonate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266201</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:21:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266201</guid> <description>EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Booky</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266187</link> <dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:09:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266187</guid> <description>F bipartisianship.  The gop is always has been on the wrong side of history and always will be on the wrong side of history.  Remember how not one republican voted for the Budget under Clinton and shut the country down out of spite?  See how far that got them?  Remember how they were against the Civil Rights Act, Medicare/Medicade and the Equal Pay for Women Act and Roe v. Wade?  They are always on the wrong side so F em and Lou Dobbs, Rush, Sean, and all the other right wingers who hate Obama more than they love their country.  F em hard.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F bipartisianship.  The gop is always has been on the wrong side of history and always will be on the wrong side of history.  Remember how not one republican voted for the Budget under Clinton and shut the country down out of spite?  See how far that got them?  Remember how they were against the Civil Rights Act, Medicare/Medicade and the Equal Pay for Women Act and Roe v. Wade?  They are always on the wrong side so F em and Lou Dobbs, Rush, Sean, and all the other right wingers who hate Obama more than they love their country.  F em hard.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TruthSeeker</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266105</link> <dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:28:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266105</guid> <description>Thanks, keke12...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that was a great read:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;The attempt to attract GOP support was the pretext which Democrats used to compromise continuously and water down the bill.  But -- given the impossibility of achieving that goal -- isn&#039;t it fairly obvious that a desire for GOP support wasn&#039;t really the reason the Democrats were constantly watering down their own bill?  Given the White House&#039;s central role in negotiating a secret deal with the pharmaceutical industry, its betrayal of Obama&#039;s clear promise to conduct negotiations out in the open (on C-SPAN no less), Rahm&#039;s protection of Blue Dogs and accompanying attacks on progressives, and the complete lack of any pressure exerted on allegedly obstructionists &quot;centrists,&quot;&lt;b&gt; it seems rather clear that the bill has been watered down, and the &quot;public option&quot; jettisoned, because that&#039;s the bill they want -- this was the plan all along.,/b&gt;  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s the fear in my gut.    As I think back, certain things set off alarm bells for me, and stand out in my mind as evidence that Obama admin has already &lt;i&gt;negotiated&lt;/i&gt;(this word is a joke, because you have to actually GET something in return in a negotiation.   A better phrase would be &quot;given away&quot;.) everything.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I recall him saying something to the effect that he was the only thing standing between them and the pitchforks(paraphrasing).   &quot;Them&quot; being the Wall Street tycoons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;During the election, and even after, he would virtually LEAP to smack down progressives if they got too bold.   He would not hesistate to smack down anyone who made a bold statement on race.    I found it heavy-handed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I recall him inserting an amendment to ensure BONUSES would be paid at the former AIG, while leading the public to believe that he was behind finding ways to prevent those same bonuses being paid.   When the news broke, I recall him pacing back and forth on stage, saying he would &quot;take&quot; responsibility for it.    I was deeply offended by that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now he&#039;s actively undermining the public option....   trying to smear it as being unimportant to reform, after saying repeatedly that it WAS important.    So, both things can&#039;t be true...which one was the lie, Mr President?&lt;/b&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, keke12&#8230;</p><p>that was a great read:<br /><blockquote><i>The attempt to attract GOP support was the pretext which Democrats used to compromise continuously and water down the bill.  But &#8212; given the impossibility of achieving that goal &#8212; isn&#39;t it fairly obvious that a desire for GOP support wasn&#39;t really the reason the Democrats were constantly watering down their own bill?  Given the White House&#39;s central role in negotiating a secret deal with the pharmaceutical industry, its betrayal of Obama&#39;s clear promise to conduct negotiations out in the open (on C-SPAN no less), Rahm&#39;s protection of Blue Dogs and accompanying attacks on progressives, and the complete lack of any pressure exerted on allegedly obstructionists &#8220;centrists,&#8221;<b> it seems rather clear that the bill has been watered down, and the &#8220;public option&#8221; jettisoned, because that&#39;s the bill they want &#8212; this was the plan all along.,/b&gt; </b></i></p></blockquote><p>That&#39;s the fear in my gut.    As I think back, certain things set off alarm bells for me, and stand out in my mind as evidence that Obama admin has already <i>negotiated</i>(this word is a joke, because you have to actually GET something in return in a negotiation.   A better phrase would be &#8220;given away&#8221;.) everything.</p><p>I recall him saying something to the effect that he was the only thing standing between them and the pitchforks(paraphrasing).   &#8220;Them&#8221; being the Wall Street tycoons.</p><p>During the election, and even after, he would virtually LEAP to smack down progressives if they got too bold.   He would not hesistate to smack down anyone who made a bold statement on race.    I found it heavy-handed.</p><p>I recall him inserting an amendment to ensure BONUSES would be paid at the former AIG, while leading the public to believe that he was behind finding ways to prevent those same bonuses being paid.   When the news broke, I recall him pacing back and forth on stage, saying he would &#8220;take&#8221; responsibility for it.    I was deeply offended by that.</p><p>Now he&#39;s actively undermining the public option&#8230;.   trying to smear it as being unimportant to reform, after saying repeatedly that it WAS important.    So, both things can&#39;t be true&#8230;which one was the lie, Mr President?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: keke12</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266089</link> <dc:creator>keke12</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:12:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266089</guid> <description>Yes! Grassley, who has promoted fear of death panels and government control.  Grassley, who has openly admitted that he won&#039;t be able to sell the bill to any  conservatives! I am so sick of progressives trying to pander to these Blue Dog obstructionists.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you add up the state populations this gang of six represent, the total is about 1/5 the state of Cali;  yet they have so much power: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/07/the-powers-that-be.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is going on here?  Why do they have such a strong hold on healthcare reform?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! Grassley, who has promoted fear of death panels and government control.  Grassley, who has openly admitted that he won&#39;t be able to sell the bill to any  conservatives! I am so sick of progressives trying to pander to these Blue Dog obstructionists.</p><p>If you add up the state populations this gang of six represent, the total is about 1/5 the state of Cali;  yet they have so much power:</p><p><a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/07/the-powers-that-be.php" rel="nofollow">http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009&#8230;</a></p><p>What is going on here?  Why do they have such a strong hold on healthcare reform?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: itgurl_29</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266080</link> <dc:creator>itgurl_29</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:46:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266080</guid> <description>It&#039;s not like they&#039;re trying to work with folks who just don&#039;t want reform. It&#039;s that they&#039;re trying to work with folks like Grassley, the very people who are out there pushing things like that &quot;death&quot; panel&quot;. It&#039;s ridiculous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to hear what POTUS has to say on that conference call. I&#039;m gonna keep calling the WH and letting them know we want real choice and competition.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not like they&#39;re trying to work with folks who just don&#39;t want reform. It&#39;s that they&#39;re trying to work with folks like Grassley, the very people who are out there pushing things like that &#8220;death&#8221; panel&#8221;. It&#39;s ridiculous.</p><p>I want to hear what POTUS has to say on that conference call. I&#39;m gonna keep calling the WH and letting them know we want real choice and competition.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266079</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:46:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266079</guid> <description>thanks for this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266071</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266071</guid> <description>President Charmin strikes again&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/18/AR2009081803321.html?hpid=sec-health&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Charmin strikes again<br /><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/18/AR2009081803321.html?hpid=sec-health" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar&#8230;</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266061</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:25:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266061</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/19/AR2009081901773.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/19/AR2009081901773.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar&#8230;</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: keke12</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266056</link> <dc:creator>keke12</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:15:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266056</guid> <description>So true, so true!  The GOP can care less how low their approval ratings are.  They do not want healthcare reform at all!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I am very discouraged by the way Obama is handling all of this.  I have been feeling for a long time that the Obama Admin. wants a watered down bill....why else would you keep trying to work with people who openly admit that they don&#039;t want reform?  Why would you attack those who are most supportive of strong legislature and the public option?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I read this article by Glen Greenwald from Salon.  His blog is a daily read for me, I trust him and he is intellectually honest even when it hurts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/19/obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It really has me worried about the direction of this healthcare legislation. We still have some time and nothing is concrete yet.  I do think that something will get passed, but I am worried about the strength of the bill.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true, so true!  The GOP can care less how low their approval ratings are.  They do not want healthcare reform at all!</p><p>But I am very discouraged by the way Obama is handling all of this.  I have been feeling for a long time that the Obama Admin. wants a watered down bill&#8230;.why else would you keep trying to work with people who openly admit that they don&#39;t want reform?  Why would you attack those who are most supportive of strong legislature and the public option?</p><p>Also, I read this article by Glen Greenwald from Salon.  His blog is a daily read for me, I trust him and he is intellectually honest even when it hurts.</p><p> <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/19/obama/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/&#8230;</a></p><p>It really has me worried about the direction of this healthcare legislation. We still have some time and nothing is concrete yet.  I do think that something will get passed, but I am worried about the strength of the bill.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TruthSeeker</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/why-working-with-the-gop-on-healthcare-reform-is-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-266050</link> <dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14204#comment-266050</guid> <description>Don&#039;t ever negotiate with people who have nothing to lose.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t ever negotiate with people who have nothing to lose.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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