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	<title>Comments on: More On That &#8220;Julian Bond&#8221; Response To Jack And Jill Politics</title>
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		<title>By: trose1</title>
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		<dc:creator>trose1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a member of the NAACP.  I am a lurker/ occasional poster of JJP.&lt;br&gt;I would luv for the two to come together and form a political website for AA&#039;s.</description>
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		<title>By: FatnSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatnSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, the comment by &quot;tdsmith&quot; is written by mcdowell or a mcdowell flunky, fo shizzle.  Nice try, Mrs. Havisham.</description>
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		<title>By: tdsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great defense jack. &quot; I don&#039;t really think this is Jill&#039;s sour grapes on having her contract rejected. &quot;The lady doth protest too much, methinks.&quot; &lt;br&gt;After encouraging words from Harvey Anderson of Mozilla, her first complaint? I didn&#039;t get paid. I guess we&#039;re willing to accept the money but if that doesn&#039;t happen we get a mean spirited disrespectful rant that was in no way constructive. But it was clear it was not meant to be. Referring to Julian Bond as a &quot; deluded,doddering and drooling old man to be given his applesauce&quot;. &lt;br&gt;How vile.&lt;br&gt;Then we are to believe that Jill doesn&#039;t understand what &quot; off the record&quot; means. Then after claiming ignorance on that point she states that she &quot;wasn&#039;t clear what was and wasn&#039;t off the record&quot;. Which is it? I kind of hope it&#039;s the latter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no doubt that the NAACP needs help . You can attack individuals , accuse them of being agents and ruin their reputations.Is all that negativity all you have left? Have you given up? I think all of our energy would be better spent coordinating a message that is positive and consistent. Sometimes its hard and frustrating to struggle on in the face of indifference. But sometimes that what struggle calls for. That what people like Julian Bond,John Lewis , Malcom X and Martin Luther King did all their lives. &lt;br&gt;Oh and Jack, let&#039;s hope the revolution doesn&#039;t start before 7am in the morning. I&#039;ve never heard so much moaning and groaning about an early morning call.&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s stop the attacks and figure out another way . Thanks Morphus, your constructive ideas are refreshing.&lt;br&gt;And please, before you criticize my writing, comment about who I might know and attack me for who knows what, I submit I&#039;ve been around awhile and seen this petty bs before. This accomplishes nothing .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great defense jack. &#8221; I don&#39;t really think this is Jill&#39;s sour grapes on having her contract rejected. &#8220;The lady doth protest too much, methinks.&#8221; <br />After encouraging words from Harvey Anderson of Mozilla, her first complaint? I didn&#39;t get paid. I guess we&#39;re willing to accept the money but if that doesn&#39;t happen we get a mean spirited disrespectful rant that was in no way constructive. But it was clear it was not meant to be. Referring to Julian Bond as a &#8221; deluded,doddering and drooling old man to be given his applesauce&#8221;. <br />How vile.<br />Then we are to believe that Jill doesn&#39;t understand what &#8221; off the record&#8221; means. Then after claiming ignorance on that point she states that she &#8220;wasn&#39;t clear what was and wasn&#39;t off the record&#8221;. Which is it? I kind of hope it&#39;s the latter.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that the NAACP needs help . You can attack individuals , accuse them of being agents and ruin their reputations.Is all that negativity all you have left? Have you given up? I think all of our energy would be better spent coordinating a message that is positive and consistent. Sometimes its hard and frustrating to struggle on in the face of indifference. But sometimes that what struggle calls for. That what people like Julian Bond,John Lewis , Malcom X and Martin Luther King did all their lives. <br />Oh and Jack, let&#39;s hope the revolution doesn&#39;t start before 7am in the morning. I&#39;ve never heard so much moaning and groaning about an early morning call.<br />Let&#39;s stop the attacks and figure out another way . Thanks Morphus, your constructive ideas are refreshing.<br />And please, before you criticize my writing, comment about who I might know and attack me for who knows what, I submit I&#39;ve been around awhile and seen this petty bs before. This accomplishes nothing .</p>
<p>Keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: FatnSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatnSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re &quot;now we know who macdowell is&quot; by sistuhqueen: Uh excuse me, but there is one key credential missing from that lineup of hack Macdowell&#039;s resume....she was kicked to the curb by gwen mckinney once mckinney learned of what a total buckpassing faker she is...as for the black panther credit? Shiiit. Ain&#039;t ya&#039;ll heard of the CoInTelPro game that the FBI ran on the panthers, and SDS, and other radicacl groups? For all we know, Mcdowell was one of those operateives....would make sense given how bad she is advising the Nation&#039;s olderst civil rights organization these days.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re &#8220;now we know who macdowell is&#8221; by sistuhqueen: Uh excuse me, but there is one key credential missing from that lineup of hack Macdowell&#39;s resume&#8230;.she was kicked to the curb by gwen mckinney once mckinney learned of what a total buckpassing faker she is&#8230;as for the black panther credit? Shiiit. Ain&#39;t ya&#39;ll heard of the CoInTelPro game that the FBI ran on the panthers, and SDS, and other radicacl groups? For all we know, Mcdowell was one of those operateives&#8230;.would make sense given how bad she is advising the Nation&#39;s olderst civil rights organization these days&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: trose1</title>
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		<dc:creator>trose1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a member of the NAACP.  I am a lurker/ occasional poster of JJP.&lt;br&gt;I would luv for the two to come together and form a political website for AA&#039;s.</description>
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		<title>By: FatnSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatnSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, the comment by &quot;tdsmith&quot; is written by mcdowell or a mcdowell flunky, fo shizzle.  Nice try, Mrs. Havisham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, the comment by &#8220;tdsmith&#8221; is written by mcdowell or a mcdowell flunky, fo shizzle.  Nice try, Mrs. Havisham.</p>
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		<title>By: tdsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great defense jack. &quot; I don&#039;t really think this is Jill&#039;s sour grapes on having her contract rejected. &quot;The lady doth protest too much, methinks.&quot; &lt;br&gt;After encouraging words from Harvey Anderson of Mozilla, her first complaint? I didn&#039;t get paid. I guess we&#039;re willing to accept the money but if that doesn&#039;t happen we get a mean spirited disrespectful rant that was in no way constructive. But it was clear it was not meant to be. Referring to Julian Bond as a &quot; deluded,doddering and drooling old man to be given his applesauce&quot;. &lt;br&gt;How vile.&lt;br&gt;Then we are to believe that Jill doesn&#039;t understand what &quot; off the record&quot; means. Then after claiming ignorance on that point she states that she &quot;wasn&#039;t clear what was and wasn&#039;t off the record&quot;. Which is it? I kind of hope it&#039;s the latter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no doubt that the NAACP needs help . You can attack individuals , accuse them of being agents and ruin their reputations.Is all that negativity all you have left? Have you given up? I think all of our energy would be better spent coordinating a message that is positive and consistent. Sometimes its hard and frustrating to struggle on in the face of indifference. But sometimes that what struggle calls for. That what people like Julian Bond,John Lewis , Malcom X and Martin Luther King did all their lives. &lt;br&gt;Oh and Jack, let&#039;s hope the revolution doesn&#039;t start before 7am in the morning. I&#039;ve never heard so much moaning and groaning about an early morning call.&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s stop the attacks and figure out another way . Thanks Morphus, your constructive ideas are refreshing.&lt;br&gt;And please, before you criticize my writing, comment about who I might know and attack me for who knows what, I submit I&#039;ve been around awhile and seen this petty bs before. This accomplishes nothing .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great defense jack. &#8221; I don&#39;t really think this is Jill&#39;s sour grapes on having her contract rejected. &#8220;The lady doth protest too much, methinks.&#8221; <br />After encouraging words from Harvey Anderson of Mozilla, her first complaint? I didn&#39;t get paid. I guess we&#39;re willing to accept the money but if that doesn&#39;t happen we get a mean spirited disrespectful rant that was in no way constructive. But it was clear it was not meant to be. Referring to Julian Bond as a &#8221; deluded,doddering and drooling old man to be given his applesauce&#8221;. <br />How vile.<br />Then we are to believe that Jill doesn&#39;t understand what &#8221; off the record&#8221; means. Then after claiming ignorance on that point she states that she &#8220;wasn&#39;t clear what was and wasn&#39;t off the record&#8221;. Which is it? I kind of hope it&#39;s the latter.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that the NAACP needs help . You can attack individuals , accuse them of being agents and ruin their reputations.Is all that negativity all you have left? Have you given up? I think all of our energy would be better spent coordinating a message that is positive and consistent. Sometimes its hard and frustrating to struggle on in the face of indifference. But sometimes that what struggle calls for. That what people like Julian Bond,John Lewis , Malcom X and Martin Luther King did all their lives. <br />Oh and Jack, let&#39;s hope the revolution doesn&#39;t start before 7am in the morning. I&#39;ve never heard so much moaning and groaning about an early morning call.<br />Let&#39;s stop the attacks and figure out another way . Thanks Morphus, your constructive ideas are refreshing.<br />And please, before you criticize my writing, comment about who I might know and attack me for who knows what, I submit I&#39;ve been around awhile and seen this petty bs before. This accomplishes nothing .</p>
<p>Keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This response is based on personal experience of &quot;updating&quot; organizations, in a previous life.  For example, I had the task of &quot;updating&quot; and paper based accounting office to electronic accounting.  I conducted desk audits before offering a solution.  The desk audits provided me with information that the staff and manager felt important and would reduce their work load. As a result, initially, I open only the part of the product they found useful.  In time, as a trust relationship was built, I was able to incrementally move them to increasingly expanded capability.  My work ended when the accounting office took total ownership of the application and were happy.  This process is slow but it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This response is based on personal experience of &#8220;updating&#8221; organizations, in a previous life.  For example, I had the task of &#8220;updating&#8221; and paper based accounting office to electronic accounting.  I conducted desk audits before offering a solution.  The desk audits provided me with information that the staff and manager felt important and would reduce their work load. As a result, initially, I open only the part of the product they found useful.  In time, as a trust relationship was built, I was able to incrementally move them to increasingly expanded capability.  My work ended when the accounting office took total ownership of the application and were happy.  This process is slow but it works.</p>
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		<title>By: FatnSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatnSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re &quot;now we know who macdowell is&quot; by sistuhqueen: Uh excuse me, but there is one key credential missing from that lineup of hack Macdowell&#039;s resume....she was kicked to the curb by gwen mckinney once mckinney learned of what a total buckpassing faker she is...as for the black panther credit? Shiiit. Ain&#039;t ya&#039;ll heard of the CoInTelPro game that the FBI ran on the panthers, and SDS, and other radicacl groups? For all we know, Mcdowell was one of those operateives....would make sense given how bad she is advising the Nation&#039;s olderst civil rights organization these days.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re &#8220;now we know who macdowell is&#8221; by sistuhqueen: Uh excuse me, but there is one key credential missing from that lineup of hack Macdowell&#39;s resume&#8230;.she was kicked to the curb by gwen mckinney once mckinney learned of what a total buckpassing faker she is&#8230;as for the black panther credit? Shiiit. Ain&#39;t ya&#39;ll heard of the CoInTelPro game that the FBI ran on the panthers, and SDS, and other radicacl groups? For all we know, Mcdowell was one of those operateives&#8230;.would make sense given how bad she is advising the Nation&#39;s olderst civil rights organization these days&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: FatnSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatnSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entire flap raises a single big question: why does Benjamin jealous keep this Macdowell hack in charge of the communications division? Make that two questions....Does she have something on him? Even the old timey-est of big doo-gooder orgs are now getting their communications departments on track, I mean for god&#039;s sake AARP and Red Cross have better websites that the naacp.....why are Bond and Jealous letting this obviously incompetent person slow their roll? It just don&#039;t add up........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entire flap raises a single big question: why does Benjamin jealous keep this Macdowell hack in charge of the communications division? Make that two questions&#8230;.Does she have something on him? Even the old timey-est of big doo-gooder orgs are now getting their communications departments on track, I mean for god&#39;s sake AARP and Red Cross have better websites that the naacp&#8230;..why are Bond and Jealous letting this obviously incompetent person slow their roll? It just don&#39;t add up&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must have been googling at the same time.  I just posted the same bio above.</description>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Leila McDowell wrote this letter.  Maybe one of her interns put it together.  Given her background she should know how to craft an effective response.  Or, at the very least, start new paragraphs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is her bio from The NetRoots Nation website (she was a panelist for one of the break-out sessions): &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Leila McDowell is a communications strategist who works exclusively on social change issues. Currently, she works on behalf of the Justice at Smithfield campaign, representing workers in Tar Heel, North Carolina who have been fighting to join together in a union since 1994.&lt;br&gt;She is a co-founder and former vice president of McKinney &amp; McDowell Associates, which grew from one client to a major firm successful in helping its clients impact the national conversation and change national perception and policy.&lt;br&gt;McDowell is a former broadcast reporter with several ABC affiliates, WPIX-TV (NY), CNN, NPR, AP radio and others.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netrootsnation.org/node/863&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.netrootsnation.org/node/863&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am pretty sure this is the same person as the NAACPs involvement in the Smithfield campaign is pointed out in the letter from &quot;Julian Bond&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think Leila McDowell wrote this letter.  Maybe one of her interns put it together.  Given her background she should know how to craft an effective response.  Or, at the very least, start new paragraphs.</p>
<p>Here is her bio from The NetRoots Nation website (she was a panelist for one of the break-out sessions): </p>
<p><i>Leila McDowell is a communications strategist who works exclusively on social change issues. Currently, she works on behalf of the Justice at Smithfield campaign, representing workers in Tar Heel, North Carolina who have been fighting to join together in a union since 1994.<br />She is a co-founder and former vice president of McKinney &#038; McDowell Associates, which grew from one client to a major firm successful in helping its clients impact the national conversation and change national perception and policy.<br />McDowell is a former broadcast reporter with several ABC affiliates, WPIX-TV (NY), CNN, NPR, AP radio and others.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.netrootsnation.org/node/863" rel="nofollow">http://www.netrootsnation.org/node/863</a></p>
<p>I am pretty sure this is the same person as the NAACPs involvement in the Smithfield campaign is pointed out in the letter from &#8220;Julian Bond&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: queensistuh</title>
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		<dc:creator>queensistuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So call me curious.  Googled the mcdowell character.  She used to be with the black panther party, worked for Nelson Mandela, repped a black family whose son had been kidnapped and held incommunicado under the terrorism act.  This is how Netroots Nation described her:  Leila McDowell is a communications strategist who works exclusively on social change issues. Currently, she works on behalf of the Justice at Smithfield campaign, representing workers in Tar Heel, North Carolina who have been fighting to join together in a union since 1994. She is a co-founder and former vice president of McKinney &amp; McDowell Associates, which grew from one client to a major firm successful in helping its clients impact the national conversation and change national perception and policy. McDowell is a former broadcast reporter with several ABC affiliates, WPIX-TV (NY), CNN, NPR, AP radio and others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So now we know who MacDowell is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So call me curious.  Googled the mcdowell character.  She used to be with the black panther party, worked for Nelson Mandela, repped a black family whose son had been kidnapped and held incommunicado under the terrorism act.  This is how Netroots Nation described her:  Leila McDowell is a communications strategist who works exclusively on social change issues. Currently, she works on behalf of the Justice at Smithfield campaign, representing workers in Tar Heel, North Carolina who have been fighting to join together in a union since 1994. She is a co-founder and former vice president of McKinney &#038; McDowell Associates, which grew from one client to a major firm successful in helping its clients impact the national conversation and change national perception and policy. McDowell is a former broadcast reporter with several ABC affiliates, WPIX-TV (NY), CNN, NPR, AP radio and others.</p>
<p>So now we know who MacDowell is</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good suggestion, but the NAACP has to be WILLING to show up at the table, and be equally WILLING not to be running thangs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They don&#039;t want to engage bloggers unless it is on THEIR TERMS.  Bloggers are unique and individual, and have to be engaged in collective fashion.  Something that the NAACP doesn&#039;t have a clue about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any organization with 63 Board Members will never be able to agree the hell on ANYTHING.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The NAACP gets invites to Blogging While Brown, Netroots Nation and any other national forums where bloggers will be present - I don&#039;t think they even send RSVPs regretting they can&#039;t send representatives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the problem with the NAACP is NOT THE LOCAL CHAPTERS.  The local chapters, more often than not, are doing the things the NATIONAL OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO ORCHESTRATE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem of the NAACP has long been at the National Level.  Not the local chapters - in fact, the locals get their hands tied and threats to have their charters REMOVED by the National Office if they don&#039;t do what the National office TELLS THEM.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shannon Reeves has a lot of ancedotes to tell about how the Oakland Chapter has been major-league dogged because he switched political parties and the NAACP is supposed to be NON-PARTISAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good suggestion, but the NAACP has to be WILLING to show up at the table, and be equally WILLING not to be running thangs.</p>
<p>They don&#39;t want to engage bloggers unless it is on THEIR TERMS.  Bloggers are unique and individual, and have to be engaged in collective fashion.  Something that the NAACP doesn&#39;t have a clue about.</p>
<p>Any organization with 63 Board Members will never be able to agree the hell on ANYTHING.</p>
<p>The NAACP gets invites to Blogging While Brown, Netroots Nation and any other national forums where bloggers will be present &#8211; I don&#39;t think they even send RSVPs regretting they can&#39;t send representatives.</p>
<p>And the problem with the NAACP is NOT THE LOCAL CHAPTERS.  The local chapters, more often than not, are doing the things the NATIONAL OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO ORCHESTRATE.</p>
<p>The problem of the NAACP has long been at the National Level.  Not the local chapters &#8211; in fact, the locals get their hands tied and threats to have their charters REMOVED by the National Office if they don&#39;t do what the National office TELLS THEM.</p>
<p>Shannon Reeves has a lot of ancedotes to tell about how the Oakland Chapter has been major-league dogged because he switched political parties and the NAACP is supposed to be NON-PARTISAN.</p>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Church ladies level of effort, reach throughout communities, and networks across the country can not be easily dismissed or duplicated, Sometimes the source of power within an organization is not at the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Church ladies level of effort, reach throughout communities, and networks across the country can not be easily dismissed or duplicated, Sometimes the source of power within an organization is not at the top.</p>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe a &quot;trusted&quot; person of the NAACP is needed as facilitator for the first meeting?  ((Just searching for solution.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a &#8220;trusted&#8221; person of the NAACP is needed as facilitator for the first meeting?  ((Just searching for solution.)</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisChambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisChambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think as long as the old church ladies are prominent in the org., as long as Bond remains detached and aloft from the 21st Century (and allows these incompetent staffers to answer his mail), and as long as Jealous doesn&#039;t seem to be focused on the young, on the archaic branches--what incentive do they have to agree to such a meeting/intervention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think as long as the old church ladies are prominent in the org., as long as Bond remains detached and aloft from the 21st Century (and allows these incompetent staffers to answer his mail), and as long as Jealous doesn&#39;t seem to be focused on the young, on the archaic branches&#8211;what incentive do they have to agree to such a meeting/intervention?</p>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both Jack and Jill attempted to make contact and both were told I&#039;ll get back to you. This is the equivalent of being told you&#039;re acting white. Who wants to hear that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both Jack and Jill attempted to make contact and both were told I&#39;ll get back to you. This is the equivalent of being told you&#39;re acting white. Who wants to hear that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisChambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisChambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is this McDowell person? Does Julian Bond still run things? Should he? Is Ben Jealous the real &quot;empty suit?&quot; Inquiring minds want to know...LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this McDowell person? Does Julian Bond still run things? Should he? Is Ben Jealous the real &#8220;empty suit?&#8221; Inquiring minds want to know&#8230;LOL</p>
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		<title>By: RonnieB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonnieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack sez: &lt;i&gt;&quot;I didn’t take McDowell’s responses personally ... &quot;.&lt;/i&gt;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nor--evidently--is she to be taken &lt;i&gt;seriously&lt;/i&gt;.  If this is how the NAACP demonstrates its relevance in 2009, then I&#039;m afraid that they&#039;ll find themselves tossed to the junk heap of political irrelevance along side Black Republicans and the John Birch Society.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Association is clearly not concerned with reaching out, but with &lt;i&gt;shutting&lt;/i&gt; out; shutting out those who could help them (because reaching out would invariably expose their inefficiency, incompetence, and weakness).  Time was, when a business or institution received a letter from the NAACP, they took it seriously and changed their behavior.  Now the Association is but a cartoon of its former self, and is ridiculed and laughed at accordingly.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I think that&#039;s a sad shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack sez: <i>&#8220;I didn’t take McDowell’s responses personally &#8230; &#8220;.</i>  </p>
<p>Nor&#8211;evidently&#8211;is she to be taken <i>seriously</i>.  If this is how the NAACP demonstrates its relevance in 2009, then I&#39;m afraid that they&#39;ll find themselves tossed to the junk heap of political irrelevance along side Black Republicans and the John Birch Society.</p>
<p>The Association is clearly not concerned with reaching out, but with <i>shutting</i> out; shutting out those who could help them (because reaching out would invariably expose their inefficiency, incompetence, and weakness).  Time was, when a business or institution received a letter from the NAACP, they took it seriously and changed their behavior.  Now the Association is but a cartoon of its former self, and is ridiculed and laughed at accordingly.  </p>
<p>And I think that&#39;s a sad shame.</p>
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