Comments on: Didn’t the Democrats take over BOTH Houses of Congress, or not? http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: khrishhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-346714 khrish Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:19:31 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-346714 I voted for Obama among many other reasons because I wanted someone who is smarter than me in the White House, so I wouldn't have had to think twice if that had been the only reason. I've always felt that he is a master chess player and I'm still hoping that I am right. AlThough I am becoming weary of all these things that have become allowable since he has been in office. I knew I didn't like Blue Dogs so this morning that when I found out the reason I don't like Harold Ford from Tennessee. I always wondered what it was and then he said this morning on Morning Joe that he is a Blue Dog.....That's it. I voted for Obama among many other reasons because I wanted someone who is smarter than me in the White House, so I wouldn't have had to think twice if that had been the only reason. I've always felt that he is a master chess player and I'm still hoping that I am right. AlThough I am becoming weary of all these things that have become allowable since he has been in office. I knew I didn't like Blue Dogs so this morning that when I found out the reason I don't like Harold Ford from Tennessee. I always wondered what it was and then he said this morning on Morning Joe that he is a Blue Dog…..That's it.

]]> By: MoObamahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-346713 MoObama Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:01:48 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-346713 The reason Bush got everything he wanted is due to the Blue Dogs who told him whatever he wanted to do he could count on them. I feel for the president; he has so many fractions against him--the Blue Dogs, Progressives, the Left, and Republicans...people whining about losing trust in him, even though he has only been in office seven months. I hear some say they wish Hillary was in office, well, I saw SICKO again last night and the same jackals that are against Obama were against Hillary. The president is a very smart man and I try to understand his reasoning before passing judgment. I really believe the president is playing the opposition like a fiddle. He asks them over and over to come on board and work with him and they refuse; this is a smart strategy because they will have no reason to blame democrats for partisanship when the HCR bill is taken over and passed. The reason Bush got everything he wanted is due to the Blue Dogs who told him whatever he wanted to do he could count on them. I feel for the president; he has so many fractions against him–the Blue Dogs, Progressives, the Left, and Republicans…people whining about losing trust in him, even though he has only been in office seven months. I hear some say they wish Hillary was in office, well, I saw SICKO again last night and the same jackals that are against Obama were against Hillary. The president is a very smart man and I try to understand his reasoning before passing judgment. I really believe the president is playing the opposition like a fiddle. He asks them over and over to come on board and work with him and they refuse; this is a smart strategy because they will have no reason to blame democrats for partisanship when the HCR bill is taken over and passed.

]]> By: khrishhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-269805 khrish Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:19:31 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-269805 I voted for Obama among many other reasons because I wanted someone who is smarter than me in the White House, so I wouldn't have had to think twice if that had been the only reason. I've always felt that he is a master chess player and I'm still hoping that I am right. AlThough I am becoming weary of all these things that have become allowable since he has been in office. I knew I didn't like Blue Dogs so this morning that when I found out the reason I don't like Harold Ford from Tennessee. I always wondered what it was and then he said this morning on Morning Joe that he is a Blue Dog.....That's it. I voted for Obama among many other reasons because I wanted someone who is smarter than me in the White House, so I wouldn't have had to think twice if that had been the only reason. I've always felt that he is a master chess player and I'm still hoping that I am right. AlThough I am becoming weary of all these things that have become allowable since he has been in office. I knew I didn't like Blue Dogs so this morning that when I found out the reason I don't like Harold Ford from Tennessee. I always wondered what it was and then he said this morning on Morning Joe that he is a Blue Dog…..That's it.

]]> By: MoObamahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-269675 MoObama Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:01:48 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-269675 The reason Bush got everything he wanted is due to the Blue Dogs who told him whatever he wanted to do he could count on them. I feel for the president; he has so many fractions against him--the Blue Dogs, Progressives, the Left, and Republicans...people whining about losing trust in him, even though he has only been in office seven months. I hear some say they wish Hillary was in office, well, I saw SICKO again last night and the same jackals that are against Obama were against Hillary. The president is a very smart man and I try to understand his reasoning before passing judgment. I really believe the president is playing the opposition like a fiddle. He asks them over and over to come on board and work with him and they refuse; this is a smart strategy because they will have no reason to blame democrats for partisanship when the HCR bill is taken over and passed. The reason Bush got everything he wanted is due to the Blue Dogs who told him whatever he wanted to do he could count on them. I feel for the president; he has so many fractions against him–the Blue Dogs, Progressives, the Left, and Republicans…people whining about losing trust in him, even though he has only been in office seven months. I hear some say they wish Hillary was in office, well, I saw SICKO again last night and the same jackals that are against Obama were against Hillary. The president is a very smart man and I try to understand his reasoning before passing judgment. I really believe the president is playing the opposition like a fiddle. He asks them over and over to come on board and work with him and they refuse; this is a smart strategy because they will have no reason to blame democrats for partisanship when the HCR bill is taken over and passed.

]]> By: richardaroberts776http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-269579 richardaroberts776 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:21:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-269579 Doubtless, we will be assured that there is nothing to see here, and that we should just move along. But being an IG in the Obama Administration appears to be a dangerous and risky thing. Congress and the media should ask why this should be the case, and why speaking truth to <a href="http://www.amtrakpromotioncode.net" rel="nofollow">amtrak promotion code</a> power is so frowned upon. Doubtless, we will be assured that there is nothing to see here, and that we should just move along. But being an IG in the Obama Administration appears to be a dangerous and risky thing. Congress and the media should ask why this should be the case, and why speaking truth to amtrak promotion code power is so frowned upon.

]]> By: khrishhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-269242 khrish Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:42:34 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-269242 You are exactly right. I beginning to wonder if Dems know how to rule. When you know what is needed to set things right you just go ahead and push it though. I didn't vote for republicans because I was tired of the crap that had been handed us. All of a sudden people are talking about leaving debts to their grandchildren. They didn't worry about the debt that was being made when the repub. lied and sent our people off to invade and occupy a country that had done nothing to us, except be used by us when America wanted an ally against Iran. But now when it about doing the right thing for Americans and Healthcare, everybody's becoming a damn financial analysis. Yet not one of them have raised up to question what happened to all the money spent for items for the military that no one can find. We need this public option. And I am sick and tired of people telling me about socialized medicine and how it works in Great Britian. I used that healthcare and I liked it. Most of the people who critize it have never used it, Hell they have never even been to Great Britian. This country has been run by a bunch of ignorant, narrrow minded people long enough and I didn't vote for this administration to allow these same people to run this country farther into the ground. I'm sick of them and their stupid reasoning. Like that stupid woman who was on the show of hardball talking about she wanted to keep her insurance with a $5,000.00 deductible. What fool, with or without ,children wants an insurance with that kind of deductible? That's just stupid. We need Healthcare reform with a public option and that's all there is to it. You are exactly right. I beginning to wonder if Dems know how to rule. When you know what is needed to set things right you just go ahead and push it though. I didn't vote for republicans because I was tired of the crap that had been handed us. All of a sudden people are talking about leaving debts to their grandchildren. They didn't worry about the debt that was being made when the repub. lied and sent our people off to invade and occupy a country that had done nothing to us, except be used by us when America wanted an ally against Iran. But now when it about doing the right thing for Americans and Healthcare, everybody's becoming a damn financial analysis. Yet not one of them have raised up to question what happened to all the money spent for items for the military that no one can find. We need this public option. And I am sick and tired of people telling me about socialized medicine and how it works in Great Britian. I used that healthcare and I liked it. Most of the people who critize it have never used it, Hell they have never even been to Great Britian. This country has been run by a bunch of ignorant, narrrow minded people long enough and I didn't vote for this administration to allow these same people to run this country farther into the ground. I'm sick of them and their stupid reasoning. Like that stupid woman who was on the show of hardball talking about she wanted to keep her insurance with a $5,000.00 deductible. What fool, with or without ,children wants an insurance with that kind of deductible? That's just stupid. We need Healthcare reform with a public option and that's all there is to it.

]]> By: RobMhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268387 RobM Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:54:46 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268387 I found this in looking that quote up; I always swore it was Mark Twain<br><br>"Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they<br>agreed with each other, they would be Republicans."<br><br>It seems true w/ the discussion on healthcare. I found this in looking that quote up; I always swore it was Mark Twain

“Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they
agreed with each other, they would be Republicans.”

It seems true w/ the discussion on healthcare.

]]> By: malletgirl02http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268083 malletgirl02 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:18:04 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268083 It is always like that, when a democrat takes office Congress always activates its power outlined the Consitution as a check against the Executive branch. It is always like that, when a democrat takes office Congress always activates its power outlined the Consitution as a check against the Executive branch.

]]> By: malletgirl02http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268077 malletgirl02 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:14:41 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268077 “I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!”-Will Rodgers. “I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!”-Will Rodgers.

]]> By: rikyrahhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268055 rikyrah Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:18:22 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268055 AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP

]]> By: happycozy (felicia)http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268042 happycozy (felicia) Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:15:58 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268042 That's a lot easier said than done, EdnaMae. I live in the 1st district of MS. We have a blue dog dem that got there on fluke. During the democratic primaries last year, many republicans switched parties to vote for HRC (remember Rush's Operation Chaos?). Since these repubs switched parties, they couldn't participate in the repub primary to fill Wicker's seat. In a nut shell, the candidate who won the repub primary was less conservative than the democratic candidate, so the democratic candidate won the seat. This dem, Childers, has voted consistantly against Obama--the buget, the stimulus, etc..<br><br>There is no way we can replace Childers with a more progressive candidate in northern MS. In fact, Childers could very well lose his seat to a republican challenger. I think we progressives need to be a bit more realistic--or, God forbid, pragmatic. That's a lot easier said than done, EdnaMae. I live in the 1st district of MS. We have a blue dog dem that got there on fluke. During the democratic primaries last year, many republicans switched parties to vote for HRC (remember Rush's Operation Chaos?). Since these repubs switched parties, they couldn't participate in the repub primary to fill Wicker's seat. In a nut shell, the candidate who won the repub primary was less conservative than the democratic candidate, so the democratic candidate won the seat. This dem, Childers, has voted consistantly against Obama–the buget, the stimulus, etc..

There is no way we can replace Childers with a more progressive candidate in northern MS. In fact, Childers could very well lose his seat to a republican challenger. I think we progressives need to be a bit more realistic–or, God forbid, pragmatic.

]]> By: TruthSeekerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268041 TruthSeeker Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:13:38 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268041 Hear what Joe said..?<br><br>You have to MAKE them do it.<br><br>Obama doesn't respond to adoration..he responds to PRESSURE. Hear what Joe said..?

You have to MAKE them do it.

Obama doesn't respond to adoration..he responds to PRESSURE.

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268038 CPL Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:55:07 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268038 I live in Metro DC - ain't nothing but a Metro ride to get me to any march that's organized, so you KNOW I'll be there in FULL FORCE AND EFFECT. I live in Metro DC – ain't nothing but a Metro ride to get me to any march that's organized, so you KNOW I'll be there in FULL FORCE AND EFFECT.

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268037 CPL Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:53:35 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268037 It is difficult for the Democrats to come true on the shyt they campaigned on because some of them HAD NO INTENTION OF KEEPING THEIR PROMISE.<br><br>They're BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS = IN THE CLOSET REPUBLICANS.<br><br>Anyone labeling themselves as "Blue Dog" needs to grow a pair and do the same thing, because they will never do what is right and what they promised. They think having a "D" in back of their name fools everyone, but people are waking up to their shyt. It is difficult for the Democrats to come true on the shyt they campaigned on because some of them HAD NO INTENTION OF KEEPING THEIR PROMISE.

They're BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS = IN THE CLOSET REPUBLICANS.

Anyone labeling themselves as “Blue Dog” needs to grow a pair and do the same thing, because they will never do what is right and what they promised. They think having a “D” in back of their name fools everyone, but people are waking up to their shyt.

]]> By: baltogeekhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268036 baltogeek Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:51:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268036 I believe there would be marches all over the country not just in DC. And a good thing too because I think that large local marches could do more to emphasize the fact that this is something that the public desperately wants and that Congress needs to listen to their constituents. I believe there would be marches all over the country not just in DC. And a good thing too because I think that large local marches could do more to emphasize the fact that this is something that the public desperately wants and that Congress needs to listen to their constituents.

]]> By: AM2k9http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268029 AM2k9 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:24:03 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268029 With the exception of gutting Social Security, Bush got everything he ever wanted. Legalized torture? Check. Illegal wars? Check. Immunity for all kinds of lawbreaking? Check. Tax cuts for the richest americans? Check. Terri Schiavo? Check. Check. Check. Check. Everything the republicans ever wanted they got. <br><br>Why is it so hard for the dems to come true on the sh*t they campaigned on? We arent even asking for pie in skies......we're asking for them to be a counter to the Republican madness and not to be republican-lite. With the exception of gutting Social Security, Bush got everything he ever wanted. Legalized torture? Check. Illegal wars? Check. Immunity for all kinds of lawbreaking? Check. Tax cuts for the richest americans? Check. Terri Schiavo? Check. Check. Check. Check. Everything the republicans ever wanted they got.

Why is it so hard for the dems to come true on the sh*t they campaigned on? We arent even asking for pie in skies……we're asking for them to be a counter to the Republican madness and not to be republican-lite.

]]> By: RubyMcGeehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268028 RubyMcGee Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:23:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268028 thank you NMP1-its so frustrating-that Rush Limbaugh-Glenn Beck-and the rest can organize pathetic people to do the weirdest things--yet we have nothing but us talking to us-about how horrible it is-- thank you NMP1-its so frustrating-that Rush Limbaugh-Glenn Beck-and the rest can organize pathetic people to do the weirdest things–yet we have nothing but us talking to us-about how horrible it is–

]]> By: NMP1http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268023 NMP1 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:17:00 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268023 Actually I think that's a damn good idea you have! Let it be a nationwide March on the same day with the biggest being in Washington. Actually I think that's a damn good idea you have! Let it be a nationwide March on the same day with the biggest being in Washington.

]]> By: RubyMcGeehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268016 RubyMcGee Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:54:13 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268016 well I am not suggesting the people in the surrounding area not go--but I live in the northwest-I am willing to go to my state capital-or the federal building in Seattle-<br>I would like to see numbers more reflective of polls be represented-a grassroots organized national march-the internet can connect and if the media ignores-just like the students of Iran-we can use the tools now at our disposal-<br>1 million is shy of the (conservative number) of 45% of the nation--if done right i think with jjpolitics-windycitywatch and a stream of other media sources we could quit the conversation over whether a public option is passed to the how and when the public option is passed-<br>I support any and all forms of public demonstrations-i am offended that people in black hoodie sweatshirts are called anarchists-and gun totting fear mongerers are called patriots--we need to win back debate by showing we are not at all going to be silenced-in Seattle-Dallas-Atlanta-or anywhere-and we aren't going to let the media frighten seniors into believing what is not true-<br>I think also we lack a symbol-Howard Dean-is truly leading (never saying no)-but I am tired of the dining room tables maintaining a spotlight and using the red, white and blue as if it is theirs alone- well I am not suggesting the people in the surrounding area not go–but I live in the northwest-I am willing to go to my state capital-or the federal building in Seattle-
I would like to see numbers more reflective of polls be represented-a grassroots organized national march-the internet can connect and if the media ignores-just like the students of Iran-we can use the tools now at our disposal-
1 million is shy of the (conservative number) of 45% of the nation–if done right i think with jjpolitics-windycitywatch and a stream of other media sources we could quit the conversation over whether a public option is passed to the how and when the public option is passed-
I support any and all forms of public demonstrations-i am offended that people in black hoodie sweatshirts are called anarchists-and gun totting fear mongerers are called patriots–we need to win back debate by showing we are not at all going to be silenced-in Seattle-Dallas-Atlanta-or anywhere-and we aren't going to let the media frighten seniors into believing what is not true-
I think also we lack a symbol-Howard Dean-is truly leading (never saying no)-but I am tired of the dining room tables maintaining a spotlight and using the red, white and blue as if it is theirs alone-

]]> By: Lisa Mhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/didnt-the-democrats-take-over-both-houses-of-congress-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-268009 Lisa M Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:29:25 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14312#comment-268009 <em>but Democrats can't keep it together for a 24 hour span?</em><br><br>That's what bugs the hell out of me. As "degenerate, pathologically deceptive and outright insane" the GNoP may be, they stay on point...as jacked up as the point may be. but Democrats can't keep it together for a 24 hour span?

That's what bugs the hell out of me. As “degenerate, pathologically deceptive and outright insane” the GNoP may be, they stay on point…as jacked up as the point may be.

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