Comments on: Afternoon Open Thread http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:58:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: parvenuhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-350699 parvenu Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:33:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-350699 Harry Jackson is an artifact left over from the Patron-Client arrangements so prevalent in 20th century American politics. Most African Americans lived in ghettoized communities the slavery era up through the late 1960's. After black folks got the right to vote the political contact with the white downtown power structure was always channeled through some black big shot person in the black community in the political role of client. In the black community, this person could be a wealthy businessman or a Undertaker, or a Minister of a large church. This person would also be selected by the white power structure as the political contact in the black community, Gifts, graft kickbacks, liquor licenses and other benefits would given to the black client in exchange for delivering a black vote favorable to the white patron's political power structure. Members of the black community who needed personal assistance from City hall would have to process their request through the black big shot client, who would then get it approved and acted upon by his white patron. That's the way things worked up until the late 1970's.<br><br>Harry is trying his best to implement this obsolete political arrangement, wherein he assumes the role of a national client for all AA's in the nation. In Harry's scenario the Republican party is assumed to be the patron controlling all of the white political power. Poor Harry fails to realize that this is the 21st century and people are buying electric cars and he is still selling Studebakers. The political gulf between the Republican party and the rest of black America is so large that they are willing to keep throwing money at this clown hoping that something might take root. Since the Republican's world now-a-days is totally "Mediacentric", if Harry can keep getting feeble gigs on political TV (as the "black opposition" to Obama), the Republicans will keep stuffing money in ol' Harry's pockets. Harry Jackson is an artifact left over from the Patron-Client arrangements so prevalent in 20th century American politics. Most African Americans lived in ghettoized communities the slavery era up through the late 1960's. After black folks got the right to vote the political contact with the white downtown power structure was always channeled through some black big shot person in the black community in the political role of client. In the black community, this person could be a wealthy businessman or a Undertaker, or a Minister of a large church. This person would also be selected by the white power structure as the political contact in the black community, Gifts, graft kickbacks, liquor licenses and other benefits would given to the black client in exchange for delivering a black vote favorable to the white patron's political power structure. Members of the black community who needed personal assistance from City hall would have to process their request through the black big shot client, who would then get it approved and acted upon by his white patron. That's the way things worked up until the late 1970's.

Harry is trying his best to implement this obsolete political arrangement, wherein he assumes the role of a national client for all AA's in the nation. In Harry's scenario the Republican party is assumed to be the patron controlling all of the white political power. Poor Harry fails to realize that this is the 21st century and people are buying electric cars and he is still selling Studebakers. The political gulf between the Republican party and the rest of black America is so large that they are willing to keep throwing money at this clown hoping that something might take root. Since the Republican's world now-a-days is totally “Mediacentric”, if Harry can keep getting feeble gigs on political TV (as the “black opposition” to Obama), the Republicans will keep stuffing money in ol' Harry's pockets.

]]> By: parvenuhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-263092 parvenu Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:33:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-263092 Harry Jackson is an artifact left over from the Patron-Client arrangements so prevalent in 20th century American politics. Most African Americans lived in ghettoized communities the slavery era up through the late 1960's. After black folks got the right to vote the political contact with the white downtown power structure was always channeled through some black big shot person in the black community in the political role of client. In the black community, this person could be a wealthy businessman or a Undertaker, or a Minister of a large church. This person would also be selected by the white power structure as the political contact in the black community, Gifts, graft kickbacks, liquor licenses and other benefits would given to the black client in exchange for delivering a black vote favorable to the white patron's political power structure. Members of the black community who needed personal assistance from City hall would have to process their request through the black big shot client, who would then get it approved and acted upon by his white patron. That's the way things worked up until the late 1970's.<br><br>Harry is trying his best to implement this obsolete political arrangement, wherein he assumes the role of a national client for all AA's in the nation. In Harry's scenario the Republican party is assumed to be the patron controlling all of the white political power. Poor Harry fails to realize that this is the 21st century and people are buying electric cars and he is still selling Studebakers. The political gulf between the Republican party and the rest of black America is so large that they are willing to keep throwing money at this clown hoping that something might take root. Since the Republican's world now-a-days is totally "Mediacentric", if Harry can keep getting feeble gigs on political TV (as the "black opposition" to Obama), the Republicans will keep stuffing money in ol' Harry's pockets. Harry Jackson is an artifact left over from the Patron-Client arrangements so prevalent in 20th century American politics. Most African Americans lived in ghettoized communities the slavery era up through the late 1960's. After black folks got the right to vote the political contact with the white downtown power structure was always channeled through some black big shot person in the black community in the political role of client. In the black community, this person could be a wealthy businessman or a Undertaker, or a Minister of a large church. This person would also be selected by the white power structure as the political contact in the black community, Gifts, graft kickbacks, liquor licenses and other benefits would given to the black client in exchange for delivering a black vote favorable to the white patron's political power structure. Members of the black community who needed personal assistance from City hall would have to process their request through the black big shot client, who would then get it approved and acted upon by his white patron. That's the way things worked up until the late 1970's.

Harry is trying his best to implement this obsolete political arrangement, wherein he assumes the role of a national client for all AA's in the nation. In Harry's scenario the Republican party is assumed to be the patron controlling all of the white political power. Poor Harry fails to realize that this is the 21st century and people are buying electric cars and he is still selling Studebakers. The political gulf between the Republican party and the rest of black America is so large that they are willing to keep throwing money at this clown hoping that something might take root. Since the Republican's world now-a-days is totally “Mediacentric”, if Harry can keep getting feeble gigs on political TV (as the “black opposition” to Obama), the Republicans will keep stuffing money in ol' Harry's pockets.

]]> By: MoObamahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262939 MoObama Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:08:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262939 What he said was, “I have insurance and I get excellent medical care; I don’t want anybody messing with it because if you mess with it, (putting all these poor people into the system) I will have to wait in line and be inconvenience…Oh! I could die from disease waiting in line. So if anybody is going to die let it be poor people…Praise the Lord! What he said was, “I have insurance and I get excellent medical care; I don’t want anybody messing with it because if you mess with it, (putting all these poor people into the system) I will have to wait in line and be inconvenience…Oh! I could die from disease waiting in line. So if anybody is going to die let it be poor people…Praise the Lord!

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262752 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:21:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262752 Co=sign!! Co=sign!!

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262751 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:20:20 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262751 IIRC, she skipped answering whether she had insurance and simply said she has an HSA. IIRC, she skipped answering whether she had insurance and simply said she has an HSA.

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262749 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:15:25 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262749 You might not be able to unmake the stew..but it is important what goes into the stew. You might not be able to unmake the stew..but it is important what goes into the stew.

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262748 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:14:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262748 Yes. The strategy is health insurance reform.<br>The tactic is co opting the most powerful interest groups. Yes. The strategy is health insurance reform.
The tactic is co opting the most powerful interest groups.

]]> By: msmartinhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262691 msmartin Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:57:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262691 "Oh, Obama is not a fighter, he's a deal-maker."<br><br>I agree. “Oh, Obama is not a fighter, he's a deal-maker.”

I agree.

]]> By: caligirl65http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262635 caligirl65 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:38:01 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262635 interesting comment, but i must say that i don't think the matter with this woman is that deep. she's just the latest variation on the tired joe-the-plumber, white everyman/woman theme. the shit has gotten beyond stale at this point. interesting comment, but i must say that i don't think the matter with this woman is that deep. she's just the latest variation on the tired joe-the-plumber, white everyman/woman theme. the shit has gotten beyond stale at this point.

]]> By: caligirl65http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262632 caligirl65 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:35:25 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262632 garrett is essentially an ass. but, he seems to be the only 'journalist' who comes prepared. most times, he seems like he actually does his homework and gives some thought to formulating his questions beforehand. in other words, he doesn't tend to ask the same lame ass questions over and over and over and over.... garrett is essentially an ass. but, he seems to be the only 'journalist' who comes prepared. most times, he seems like he actually does his homework and gives some thought to formulating his questions beforehand. in other words, he doesn't tend to ask the same lame ass questions over and over and over and over….

]]> By: karlewishttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262626 karlewis Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:31:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262626 Its the defirrents between Strategy and Tactics Its the defirrents between Strategy and Tactics

]]> By: caligirl65http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262624 caligirl65 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:31:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262624 who's joe lockhart...???<br><br>to me, gibbs looks like he (often) wants to step down off of that podium and slap the living SHIT outta somebody. i don't call that fear--i call it RESTRAINT. who's joe lockhart…???

to me, gibbs looks like he (often) wants to step down off of that podium and slap the living SHIT outta somebody. i don't call that fear–i call it RESTRAINT.

]]> By: caligirl65http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262622 caligirl65 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:29:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262622 gibbs has grown on me too. gibbs has grown on me too.

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262620 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:28:29 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262620 Great pic, thanks. Great pic, thanks.

]]> By: caligirl65http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262618 caligirl65 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:28:19 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262618 i loved the look he gave president obama before they hugged. precioso! i loved the look he gave president obama before they hugged. precioso!

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262616 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:23:56 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262616 Tell it!! Break it down! Tell it!! Break it down!

]]> By: TruthSeekerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262613 TruthSeeker Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:21:47 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262613 No, the idea is to make sure the stew is made properly; you can't un-make a stew. No, the idea is to make sure the stew is made properly; you can't un-make a stew.

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262612 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:21:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262612 Precisely. There is no final bill...Obama is making sausage.<br><br>Wait and see what the outcome is. Will the outcome be to your likeing? Who knows...but what you do know is, there was no hope it might even approach your liking with Bush.<br><br>So sit back, relax, and KNOW you are going to get FAR more than you would have EVER got with the GOP!!<br><br>Man, I hate these chicken littles. Precisely. There is no final bill…Obama is making sausage.

Wait and see what the outcome is. Will the outcome be to your likeing? Who knows…but what you do know is, there was no hope it might even approach your liking with Bush.

So sit back, relax, and KNOW you are going to get FAR more than you would have EVER got with the GOP!!

Man, I hate these chicken littles.

]]> By: TruthSeekerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262609 TruthSeeker Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:20:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262609 Hey, crazy stalker, what's up? Hey, crazy stalker, what's up?

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/08/afternoon-open-thread-119/comment-page-1/#comment-262607 whiterosebuddy Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:19:47 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=14020#comment-262607 they didn't call his bluff...he co opted them for his GOALS!!<br><br>pay attention...stop second guessing...you elected a leader..let him LEAD! they didn't call his bluff…he co opted them for his GOALS!!

pay attention…stop second guessing…you elected a leader..let him LEAD!

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