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	<title>Comments on: The Conversation Obama Had With Black Media Before The NAACP Speech</title>
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		<title>By: richardprince</title>
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		<dc:creator>richardprince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly all those on the plane filed reports. Essence was only one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See:&lt;br&gt;Obama Flies to N.Y. With Seven Black-Press Journalists&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mije.org/richardprince/cronkite-inspired-all-races-both-genders&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mije.org/richardprince/cronkite-insp...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly all those on the plane filed reports. Essence was only one.</p>
<p>See:<br />Obama Flies to N.Y. With Seven Black-Press Journalists<br /><a href="http://www.mije.org/richardprince/cronkite-inspired-all-races-both-genders" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.mije.org/richardprince/cronkite-insp.." rel="nofollow">http://www.mije.org/richardprince/cronkite-insp..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzikal203</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muzikal203</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For example, the most important issue for the African-American community, according to the President, is education. &quot;If we close the achievement gap, then a big chunk of economic inequality in this society is diminished,&quot; he said, arguing that getting our kids up to speed involves better teachers, greater accountability, and a combination of more resources and education reform.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that education is the biggest problem facing our community, it largely seems like people coming up behind me are almost proud to revel in their ignorance. I remember seeing somewhere where a young Black male couldn&#039;t READ, and he was PROUD of that. Unfortunately the &quot;mainstream&quot; of Black culture seems to elevate going to prison, being a thug, and disrespecting women. I do think that all Black folks need to take advantage of all of the FREE education they can, especially considering the fact that there was a time where teaching Blacks how to read and write was a crime.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With that being said, there was something very important missing from that paragraph, COST. I graduated from high school, went straight to college and had lots of scholarships (I managed to end up with only about $8,000 in loans after 4 years at an out of state school), then I took a year off and went to law school (just graduated in May, getting ready to take the Bar in a couple of weeks) and my student loan debt is now astronomical, I did have a scholarship, but it barely covered the cost of books each year, not to mention the rising cost of tuition. When I first got to the school, it was about $900 a credit hour, by the time I graduated it had risen each year to the point where it was $1060 per credit hour. I didn&#039;t work (except for the summers), so I also had to take out loans to pay for the cost of living (about $10,000 a year). Luckily I managed to avoid private loans. With that said, my student loan payments are going to end up being approximately a house payment per month. I don&#039;t want to work for a big firm, I want to work for a gov&#039;t agency or maybe a non-profit organization. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Economically, going to school isn&#039;t really helping me right now. I&#039;m sure it will end up paying off in the long term, but I think a lot of the younger Blacks look at people like me who did do the whole school thing, and will be in mountains of debt for YEARS (unless I write a couple of best-selling books or win the lottery), and then they look at their friend &quot;Ray Ray&quot; who dropped out of high school and is doing some illegal activity and living in a big house in a nice neighborhood with a gas guzzling SUV with platinum rims and they wonder why should they bother going to school.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it&#039;s not enough to simply get Black kids though high school and send them off to a community or 4 year college, we need to get the COST of education down. Lawyers and Doctors default the most on their student loans. I wasn&#039;t surprised when I first heard that. Yet we need more lawyers and doctors to go into public service. The government loan forgiveness program is nice, but we still have to pay those astronomical loan payments for 10 years before that will kick in (and I&#039;m not sure if whatever is paid off is taxable or not, but it probably is). The Income Based Repayment program also isn&#039;t perfect, it&#039;s nice that it gets payments down for maybe 25 years, but I know for sure whatever isn&#039;t paid off there is taxable, and your loan payments will fluctuate every year which may make it more difficult to budget. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think fixing the cost of education is right up there with health care as far as draining people. My parents didn&#039;t take out any loans for me, all of my loans are in MY name and they are MY responsibility, and the last thing I want to do is default. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry for the long rant, but I hope my point got through. Again, I&#039;m thrilled that he actually TALKS about education that was my #1 issue during the campaign, and the biggest reason why I was supporting his candidacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For example, the most important issue for the African-American community, according to the President, is education. &#8220;If we close the achievement gap, then a big chunk of economic inequality in this society is diminished,&#8221; he said, arguing that getting our kids up to speed involves better teachers, greater accountability, and a combination of more resources and education reform.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree that education is the biggest problem facing our community, it largely seems like people coming up behind me are almost proud to revel in their ignorance. I remember seeing somewhere where a young Black male couldn&#39;t READ, and he was PROUD of that. Unfortunately the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; of Black culture seems to elevate going to prison, being a thug, and disrespecting women. I do think that all Black folks need to take advantage of all of the FREE education they can, especially considering the fact that there was a time where teaching Blacks how to read and write was a crime.</p>
<p>With that being said, there was something very important missing from that paragraph, COST. I graduated from high school, went straight to college and had lots of scholarships (I managed to end up with only about $8,000 in loans after 4 years at an out of state school), then I took a year off and went to law school (just graduated in May, getting ready to take the Bar in a couple of weeks) and my student loan debt is now astronomical, I did have a scholarship, but it barely covered the cost of books each year, not to mention the rising cost of tuition. When I first got to the school, it was about $900 a credit hour, by the time I graduated it had risen each year to the point where it was $1060 per credit hour. I didn&#39;t work (except for the summers), so I also had to take out loans to pay for the cost of living (about $10,000 a year). Luckily I managed to avoid private loans. With that said, my student loan payments are going to end up being approximately a house payment per month. I don&#39;t want to work for a big firm, I want to work for a gov&#39;t agency or maybe a non-profit organization. </p>
<p>Economically, going to school isn&#39;t really helping me right now. I&#39;m sure it will end up paying off in the long term, but I think a lot of the younger Blacks look at people like me who did do the whole school thing, and will be in mountains of debt for YEARS (unless I write a couple of best-selling books or win the lottery), and then they look at their friend &#8220;Ray Ray&#8221; who dropped out of high school and is doing some illegal activity and living in a big house in a nice neighborhood with a gas guzzling SUV with platinum rims and they wonder why should they bother going to school.</p>
<p>So it&#39;s not enough to simply get Black kids though high school and send them off to a community or 4 year college, we need to get the COST of education down. Lawyers and Doctors default the most on their student loans. I wasn&#39;t surprised when I first heard that. Yet we need more lawyers and doctors to go into public service. The government loan forgiveness program is nice, but we still have to pay those astronomical loan payments for 10 years before that will kick in (and I&#39;m not sure if whatever is paid off is taxable or not, but it probably is). The Income Based Repayment program also isn&#39;t perfect, it&#39;s nice that it gets payments down for maybe 25 years, but I know for sure whatever isn&#39;t paid off there is taxable, and your loan payments will fluctuate every year which may make it more difficult to budget. </p>
<p>I think fixing the cost of education is right up there with health care as far as draining people. My parents didn&#39;t take out any loans for me, all of my loans are in MY name and they are MY responsibility, and the last thing I want to do is default. </p>
<p>Sorry for the long rant, but I hope my point got through. Again, I&#39;m thrilled that he actually TALKS about education that was my #1 issue during the campaign, and the biggest reason why I was supporting his candidacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks rikyrah.</description>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP!!</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booky,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booky,</p>
<p>I understand your point.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booky probably goes to the playground with a book instead of a ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booky probably goes to the playground with a book instead of a ball.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh*&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Booky, boo...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m gonna need you...to build a bridge...and get over this. You&#039;ve been at it with your griping on the speech on all the threads. Give it a rest already. We get it- you didn&#039;t like it and you wanted something different.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yay for you. Do you want a cookie or a gold star?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>Booky, boo&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#39;m gonna need you&#8230;to build a bridge&#8230;and get over this. You&#39;ve been at it with your griping on the speech on all the threads. Give it a rest already. We get it- you didn&#39;t like it and you wanted something different.</p>
<p>Yay for you. Do you want a cookie or a gold star?</p>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh no miss-opinion, he gave this talk to the fortunate few who were aboard Air Force One with him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;everal hours before President Obama gave his much-anticipated speech at the NAACP centennial convention in New York City, he spoke before another probing audience of African-Americans aboard Air Force One. Accompanying the President on the quick flight over from Washington, seven reporters representing various Black media outlets questioned the President about his plans for improving conditions for African-Americans, and what he says is the single most important issue they face today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;masses&quot; and the world heard a different speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh no miss-opinion, he gave this talk to the fortunate few who were aboard Air Force One with him.</p>
<p>everal hours before President Obama gave his much-anticipated speech at the NAACP centennial convention in New York City, he spoke before another probing audience of African-Americans aboard Air Force One. Accompanying the President on the quick flight over from Washington, seven reporters representing various Black media outlets questioned the President about his plans for improving conditions for African-Americans, and what he says is the single most important issue they face today.</p>
<p>The &#8220;masses&#8221; and the world heard a different speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so if the NAACP Convention was not the time or place to give a speech on policy when and where will be the time for him to give a speech on policies that affect the African American community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so if the NAACP Convention was not the time or place to give a speech on policy when and where will be the time for him to give a speech on policies that affect the African American community?</p>
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		<title>By: miss_opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>miss_opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He did</description>
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		<title>By: thenderson1986</title>
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		<dc:creator>thenderson1986</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama was the keynote speaker at the 100th Annual NAACP Convention. It was not an urban policy press conference. He gave the perfect speech for the occasion, which was about reflecting on the NAACP, and black america, where we have been and where we are going and we what we need to do to get there. The NAACP Convention was not the time nor place to give a speech on policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama was the keynote speaker at the 100th Annual NAACP Convention. It was not an urban policy press conference. He gave the perfect speech for the occasion, which was about reflecting on the NAACP, and black america, where we have been and where we are going and we what we need to do to get there. The NAACP Convention was not the time nor place to give a speech on policy.</p>
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		<title>By: morphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>morphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to acknowledging problems in the AA community, what a tough position to be in.  From personal observation, whenever a minority is the &quot;first&quot; in position of authority, they have been scrutinized and admonished for their &quot;favoritism&quot;, real or imagined.  PBO is in the same position.  It is my opinion that many members in our community are not familiar enough with government programs to take advantage of them when programs are funded.  I see that as being a problem and perhaps a source of misunderstanding in the AA community.  PBO is putting money out there, we have got to learn how to: apply for it., track it, and bring it into our communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to acknowledging problems in the AA community, what a tough position to be in.  From personal observation, whenever a minority is the &#8220;first&#8221; in position of authority, they have been scrutinized and admonished for their &#8220;favoritism&#8221;, real or imagined.  PBO is in the same position.  It is my opinion that many members in our community are not familiar enough with government programs to take advantage of them when programs are funded.  I see that as being a problem and perhaps a source of misunderstanding in the AA community.  PBO is putting money out there, we have got to learn how to: apply for it., track it, and bring it into our communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so why couldn&#039;t POTUS give this speech last night?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so why couldn&#39;t POTUS give this speech last night?</p>
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