Comments on: Taking the healthcare debate to the Blue Dog Dems http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/taking-the-healthcare-debate-to-the-blue-dog-dems/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:29:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: CeeLee http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/taking-the-healthcare-debate-to-the-blue-dog-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-335535 CeeLee Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:29:04 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=12988#comment-335535 For what I know (personally) and by what I read of stories about others' treatment by insurance companies people are already being denied hip surgeries, chemo therapy, or some other kind of treatment by their own insurance providers. By being told it's a unnecessary procedure, or that it's a pre-condition so it doesn't apply to your insurance, or that the person's insurance just doesn't cover those cost. <br><br>So all this worrying that some have of being denied a procedure IS ALREADY GOING ON (TODAY, YESTERDAY) BY INSURANCE COMPANIES and is pretty ridiculous to now use for public option. <br><br>And insurance companies are already in between you and your doctors when they won't cover the cost for a treatment you need.<br><br>Of course we will need taxes, but the rich won't be the only ones paying higher taxes for health care. Middle class, lower class, homeless, and even illegal immigrates will be paying taxes as THEY DO NOW. Everything you buy, sell, use, wear, eat, drink, hear, and watch are taxed. So this non sense of 'free lunch' that we or the wealthy will have no such of to allow us to have a CHOICE at a public option is again a ridiculous notion because WE ALREADY ARE DOING THESE THINGS BUT ARE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FOR IT. For what I know (personally) and by what I read of stories about others' treatment by insurance companies people are already being denied hip surgeries, chemo therapy, or some other kind of treatment by their own insurance providers. By being told it's a unnecessary procedure, or that it's a pre-condition so it doesn't apply to your insurance, or that the person's insurance just doesn't cover those cost.

So all this worrying that some have of being denied a procedure IS ALREADY GOING ON (TODAY, YESTERDAY) BY INSURANCE COMPANIES and is pretty ridiculous to now use for public option.

And insurance companies are already in between you and your doctors when they won't cover the cost for a treatment you need.

Of course we will need taxes, but the rich won't be the only ones paying higher taxes for health care. Middle class, lower class, homeless, and even illegal immigrates will be paying taxes as THEY DO NOW. Everything you buy, sell, use, wear, eat, drink, hear, and watch are taxed. So this non sense of 'free lunch' that we or the wealthy will have no such of to allow us to have a CHOICE at a public option is again a ridiculous notion because WE ALREADY ARE DOING THESE THINGS BUT ARE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FOR IT.

]]> By: CeeLee http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/taking-the-healthcare-debate-to-the-blue-dog-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-234018 CeeLee Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:29:04 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=12988#comment-234018 For what I know (personally) and by what I read of stories about others' treatment by insurance companies people are already being denied hip surgeries, chemo therapy, are some other kind of treatment by their own insurance providers. By being told it's unnecessary procedure, or that it's a pre-condition so it doesn't apply to your insurance, or that the person's insurance just doesn't cover those cost. <br><br>So all this worrying that some have of being denied a procedure IS ALREADY GOING ON (TODAY, YESTERDAY) BY INSURANCE COMPANIES and is pretty ridicules to now use for public option. <br><br>And insurance companies are already in between you and your doctors when they won't cover the cost for a treatment you need.<br><br>Of course we will need taxes, but the rich won't be the only ones paying higher taxes for health care. Middle class, lower class, homeless, and even illegal immigrates will be paying taxes as THEY DO NOW. Everything you buy, sell, use, wear, eat, drink, hear, and watch are taxed. So this non sense of 'free lunch' that we or the wealthy will have no such of to allow us to have a CHOICE at a public option is again a ridicules notion because WE ALREADY ARE DOING THESE THINGS BUT ARE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FOR IT. For what I know (personally) and by what I read of stories about others' treatment by insurance companies people are already being denied hip surgeries, chemo therapy, are some other kind of treatment by their own insurance providers. By being told it's unnecessary procedure, or that it's a pre-condition so it doesn't apply to your insurance, or that the person's insurance just doesn't cover those cost.

So all this worrying that some have of being denied a procedure IS ALREADY GOING ON (TODAY, YESTERDAY) BY INSURANCE COMPANIES and is pretty ridicules to now use for public option.

And insurance companies are already in between you and your doctors when they won't cover the cost for a treatment you need.

Of course we will need taxes, but the rich won't be the only ones paying higher taxes for health care. Middle class, lower class, homeless, and even illegal immigrates will be paying taxes as THEY DO NOW. Everything you buy, sell, use, wear, eat, drink, hear, and watch are taxed. So this non sense of 'free lunch' that we or the wealthy will have no such of to allow us to have a CHOICE at a public option is again a ridicules notion because WE ALREADY ARE DOING THESE THINGS BUT ARE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FOR IT.

]]> By: spirit_55z http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/taking-the-healthcare-debate-to-the-blue-dog-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-232936 spirit_55z Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:35:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=12988#comment-232936 People Love Insurance Companies! Right??? Dennis Kucinich<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vQFH6iYIc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vQFH6iYIc</a> People Love Insurance Companies! Right??? Dennis Kucinich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vQFH6iYIc

]]> By: spirit_55z http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/taking-the-healthcare-debate-to-the-blue-dog-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-232931 spirit_55z Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:31:27 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=12988#comment-232931 Members Talk About A Public Option<br>Congressman keith Ellison takes his flipcam <br>Interviews 5 members of congress<br><br>Video<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyrv99MucfM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyrv99MucfM</a> Members Talk About A Public Option
Congressman keith Ellison takes his flipcam
Interviews 5 members of congress

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyrv99MucfM

]]> By: Conserv1 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/taking-the-healthcare-debate-to-the-blue-dog-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-232899 Conserv1 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:10:40 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=12988#comment-232899 Any public plan plan whose primary goal is to keep costs low will ultimately lead to rationing and limited access to expensive or experimental treatments. The wealthy will be able to pay out of pocket but others will see the government take over the role of denying hip surgery to an 80 year old patient.<br><br>Funding healthcare for all from just the wealthy will not work. Everyone must pay. Taxes must be raised on all Americans. There is no such thing as a 'free lunch' and if the middle-class wants government-run healthcare they should be willing to pay for it. With their contributions we can have a better chance of providing health security to all Americans while without rationing or stifling innovation. Any public plan plan whose primary goal is to keep costs low will ultimately lead to rationing and limited access to expensive or experimental treatments. The wealthy will be able to pay out of pocket but others will see the government take over the role of denying hip surgery to an 80 year old patient.

Funding healthcare for all from just the wealthy will not work. Everyone must pay. Taxes must be raised on all Americans. There is no such thing as a 'free lunch' and if the middle-class wants government-run healthcare they should be willing to pay for it. With their contributions we can have a better chance of providing health security to all Americans while without rationing or stifling innovation.

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