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		<title>By: Micheline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got it from Atrios.</description>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roubini is an expensive subscription. Do you have an online back door to his website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roubini is an expensive subscription. Do you have an online back door to his website?</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mallet. I just can&#039;t see how from jump Mothsmoke wanted to pretend I disparaged the girl. She was nothing but a piece of ass for McNair, and saying so is talking about HIS judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mallet. I just can&#39;t see how from jump Mothsmoke wanted to pretend I disparaged the girl. She was nothing but a piece of ass for McNair, and saying so is talking about HIS judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: friskee1</title>
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		<dc:creator>friskee1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because there&#039;s always someone out there willing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know how long he&#039;s been married, but if he was willing to step out on his wife and 4 kids with a 20 yr old, methinks that somethin wrong was goin gon in the first place, they tried to work it out, but in the process, he moved out and started spending time with another chick just to figure things out. it&#039;s not like he wanted to be with her, but she was more his jump-off until he worked things out with the wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because there&#39;s always someone out there willing.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know how long he&#39;s been married, but if he was willing to step out on his wife and 4 kids with a 20 yr old, methinks that somethin wrong was goin gon in the first place, they tried to work it out, but in the process, he moved out and started spending time with another chick just to figure things out. it&#39;s not like he wanted to be with her, but she was more his jump-off until he worked things out with the wife.</p>
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		<title>By: friskee1</title>
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		<dc:creator>friskee1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not that it matters, but were he ad his wife separated? shoulda stayed his ass at home and try to work things out with the misses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not that it matters, but were he ad his wife separated? shoulda stayed his ass at home and try to work things out with the misses</p>
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		<title>By: friskee1</title>
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		<dc:creator>friskee1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good question. people were asking if barack obama was &quot;black enough&quot; and he would say compared to who? flava flav? I think it&#039;s a question of whether or not someone is &quot;down&quot; with our causes and is not so quick to run from his own culture. I don&#039;t knock MJ in this sense because his father did a great job in shitting on his self esteem and self worth. i&#039;m not mad at him for dating white women because let&#039;s face, what sista would be checking for MJ after what was said and done? I think we would find the answer to your question in chris rock&#039;s bit about niggas and black people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good question. people were asking if barack obama was &#8220;black enough&#8221; and he would say compared to who? flava flav? I think it&#39;s a question of whether or not someone is &#8220;down&#8221; with our causes and is not so quick to run from his own culture. I don&#39;t knock MJ in this sense because his father did a great job in shitting on his self esteem and self worth. i&#39;m not mad at him for dating white women because let&#39;s face, what sista would be checking for MJ after what was said and done? I think we would find the answer to your question in chris rock&#39;s bit about niggas and black people.</p>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
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		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opposite would be famous older non-black women and a younger black male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opposite would be famous older non-black women and a younger black male.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tee, hee, hee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tee, hee, hee</p>
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		<title>By: WordSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nooo!  That&#039;s fascinating to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nooo!  That&#39;s fascinating to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BWA HA HA HA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BWA HA HA HA</p>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
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		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is technically. While they are officially white, I will agree with you that they aren&#039;t considered white by many people in practice. for example did you know that after the US acquired the Mexican territories after the war with Mexico, the Mexicans living in those territories acquired by the US were supposed to be considered white, but in practice they weren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is technically. While they are officially white, I will agree with you that they aren&#39;t considered white by many people in practice. for example did you know that after the US acquired the Mexican territories after the war with Mexico, the Mexicans living in those territories acquired by the US were supposed to be considered white, but in practice they weren&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: WordSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  See - this is something I did not know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  See &#8211; this is something I did not know.</p>
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		<title>By: isonprize</title>
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		<dc:creator>isonprize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hermit?  It shows...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hermit?  It shows&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lamh, good question. I don&#039;t really separate &quot;blackness&quot; from being &quot;black&quot; although I&#039;m sure some do so I would love to read the definition.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me it doesn&#039;t I mater if you are rich/poor, conservative/liberal, light/dark, natural/processed or intelligent/ignorant.  I don&#039;t think any of these things define blackness per se, because there are large groups of black folk that fall into each category.  However, there is always some group that will define how they want blackness to be and then criticize everyone who doesn&#039;t fit into that mold.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clarence Thomas may not act best interests of blacks, but he is still black.  Souldja Boy may be a baffoon but he is still black.  Does one have more &quot;blackness&quot; then the other?  And, if/when you choose the baffoon, please explain why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lamh, good question. I don&#39;t really separate &#8220;blackness&#8221; from being &#8220;black&#8221; although I&#39;m sure some do so I would love to read the definition.  </p>
<p>For me it doesn&#39;t I mater if you are rich/poor, conservative/liberal, light/dark, natural/processed or intelligent/ignorant.  I don&#39;t think any of these things define blackness per se, because there are large groups of black folk that fall into each category.  However, there is always some group that will define how they want blackness to be and then criticize everyone who doesn&#39;t fit into that mold.</p>
<p>Clarence Thomas may not act best interests of blacks, but he is still black.  Souldja Boy may be a baffoon but he is still black.  Does one have more &#8220;blackness&#8221; then the other?  And, if/when you choose the baffoon, please explain why.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less time being worried about what black people are doing, and more time being worried about yourself may result in better means to live within, LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less time being worried about what black people are doing, and more time being worried about yourself may result in better means to live within, LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: isonprize</title>
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		<dc:creator>isonprize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what&#039;s love got to do with it?   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I ain&#039;t a fan of Toni Braxton, but &quot;Love woulda brought him home that night&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s what I mean.  Why get married in the first place?  If you don&#039;t respect the concept, just don&#039;t do it.   I mean, what does it mean to be a husband? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does $  and ego make you that stupid?   The condo, the car, the readily accessible guns? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Apparently, it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what&#39;s love got to do with it?   </p>
<p> I ain&#39;t a fan of Toni Braxton, but &#8220;Love woulda brought him home that night&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s what I mean.  Why get married in the first place?  If you don&#39;t respect the concept, just don&#39;t do it.   I mean, what does it mean to be a husband? </p>
<p>Does $  and ego make you that stupid?   The condo, the car, the readily accessible guns? </p>
<p> Apparently, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
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		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m saying, they are group under the White/Caucasian category. In each classification there are a whole bunch of groups that would be part of that category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m saying, they are group under the White/Caucasian category. In each classification there are a whole bunch of groups that would be part of that category.</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be the opposite, exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be the opposite, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
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		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry if you really knew about the republican candidate for governor in VA you would want VA to be saddle with him. He is Gilmore redux. It is all in abstract for you. I don&#039;t see why my state has to have a Republican governor just for a two party government to happen. Maybe your state you have a Republican governor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m sorry if you really knew about the republican candidate for governor in VA you would want VA to be saddle with him. He is Gilmore redux. It is all in abstract for you. I don&#39;t see why my state has to have a Republican governor just for a two party government to happen. Maybe your state you have a Republican governor.</p>
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		<title>By: WordSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What like a separate category underneath?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What like a separate category underneath?</p>
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