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By: khrish

khrish — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:33:04 +0000

I read in one article, and now I cannot remember which, that Gaits said the Black officer was trying to signal Crowley to let it go. For the life of me, I can't remember where I read it on that second day. But according to the tape that they have played, the lady who called never refereded to Race. Her lawyer had spoken out in her defense and then when they played the tape she only answered when they asked, that one may have been Hispanic, she wasn't sure. And she never said anything about backpacks, but that the suitcases were on the porch. So that was a lie written into the report and stated by Crowley.

By: Myth

Myth — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:43:33 +0000

I Be Thinking! I just think Crowley didn't make this arrest decision by himself. It's just still think something is missing for me in this whole situation. Are you not sure Khrish that the Black Officer with him didn't just edge him on to go ahead and arrest this beligerant Negro. I think we just had to be there to understand how this went down.

By: rissa1980

rissa1980 — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:42:00 +0000

Sorry, I misread the post regarding Gates' possession of the passport.

By: khrish

khrish — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:33:04 +0000

By: Myth

Myth — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:43:33 +0000

I Be Thinking! I just think Crowley didn't make this arrest decision by himself. It's just still something missing for me in this whole situation. Are you not sure Khrish that the Black Officer with him didn't just edge him on to go ahead and arrest this beligerant Negro. I think we just had to be there to understand how this went down.

By: rissa1980

rissa1980 — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:42:00 +0000

Sorry, I misread the post regarding Gates' possession of the passport.

By: Bellabie

Bellabie — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:46:54 +0000

(Apologies for the delayed reply)

By: Bellabie

Bellabie — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:46:30 +0000

Pardon me, dear, but I must ask what you believe my thesis to be, for I said, no where, that people ought to stop being who and what they were besides that I wish them to discontinue being racist and unfair. That is what I wanted to stop. I want humanity to not define people by the colour of their skin. My purpose is precisely as you mentioned: when no person is viewed inequal to another as a result of their appearances or other unalterable or born traits (age, sex, gender, sexual orientation, etc.).
Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism)
Indeed, when all people can recognize that skin colour or any other arbitrary physical feature does not define one culture from another, then, yes. The world will be free of racism and a much more equal place.
However, when a person with dark skin identifies their culture as inherently linked to their skin colour, they are being racist. I make an example of this with Wasteacher mostly because I was insulted by the phrasing that said poster used. Apologies for the specific note, Wasteacher. You are not the only one whom I would consider to have been racist, here, and I will recognize that my being insulted could skew my opinions. Regardless, it is as racist to make a generalization about the culture and person of an individual if their skin is dark as it is if it is light. Wasteacher grouped me because of my skin colour with people who are deemed racist (there is the demonizing earlier mentioned, Morphus). Furthermore, I was excluded from having the capability to understand or become a part of a culture because of my skin colour.
I spoke with another person about this, and here is what we have come to:
You and I mostly agree. As do most of the others, here.
None of us want people to suffer as a result of their skin colour. What hinders us in our agreement is the definition of culture. I believe that culture, in order to be free of racism, must be defined without regards to race. Many of you seem to equate skin colour to culture (which is what I have found hypocritical) which causes you to feel under attack when someone wishes to eliminate the skin colour element. It feels, to you, as though I am suggesting that you remove the "black" culture. I am not, in the least. What I believe is that the definitions of cultures drawn along the lines of skin colour, hair type, eye-shape, and other arbitrary physical characteristics ought to be abolished. No one's actions should be assumed because of these physical traits. All racial-profiling is racial-profiling. All racism is racism.

By: Bellabie

Bellabie — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:00:08 +0000

You can do it.
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