Jack & Jill Politics

I think its absurd people are complaining about too much MJ coverage displacing the "real news." Get serious. The corporate media hasn't reported "real news" since Cronkite retired.

Nuff Said!

BAM, right there!

Oh, nobody told me those were the ACTUAL Andrae Crouch singers performing today! WHEW! No wonder they had me bout to have a revival at work. I saw a pic of the Minister there too, he was embracing Reb (that's Farrakhan and Sharpton for those who dont know).

Yeah, I thought you knew that was the Andrae Crouch Singers performing. I read somewhere that Crouch met with MJ a few weeks before his death, and that MJ accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.

If you're working with Dial up or another slow connection and can't watch the videos, they are replaying it on MSNBC right now, it started at 11, and they are taking commercial breaks, so you aren't that far into it.

As conflicted as I am in my feelings about MJ, I do believe his 3 children should remain with the Jackson family. They have already lost so much, I don't see the need to put them through further turmoil. My heart broke for Paris, she loved her father so much. This love gave her the strength to stand up in front of the world and speak through her grief.

Daisy...you are so right...anyone trying to get custody of Michael's children are in it for themselves and do not care about the children.

Wow...i had forgotten about this little gem from MJ....these songs never get old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnhWML43NI8

Even though Thriller sold a bazillion units, I always thought that 'Off the Wall' was a better musical effort. Almost every song on that album is the JAM!

And, of course, I remember WAY before downloading individual songs... Yeah, you could buy a single, but the album was the shot! And to get 7 -8 jammin' songs on one album? That was the best!!!

That album is PERFECT to clean your house to. LOL. I've done it many times.

These days the kids are lucky if 2 songs are worth listening to over and over again from these lame CDs that get put out now. That's a shame.

Oh, I just saw the brotha get at Diane Dimondon Headline News. I'm so glad to see black people calling these folks out. These same people who have been gunning for MJ for 15 years are all over tv and I'm glad to see people are not taking it anymore.

Patty Austin is looking good. She's on CNN with Larry King. I thought she was heavier. She's quite svelte now.

The service is replaying on BET---been on for about 5 minutes.

Earlier today I wrote this comment ""sometimes get tired of white people and their inadvertent prejudiced ramblings" (click on the link for my whole rant)...

Well this whole Michael Jackson brouhaha over the coverage has finally done what Faux News didn't.

Here's the thing I know that not everyone feels the same about Michael Jackson. I get that. I don't believer that MJ coverage is politcal in anyway. Of all the usual liberal blogs and programs I keep up with, I respect the ones who rather than belittling the coverage, or belittling those who chose to celebrate MJ instead just continues to cover politics...that's it!

I gonna have to step away from some of the blogs and programs that I usually frequented for awhile (I'm thinking the whole summer actually). It during time like these where you really see if the people who you respect, really respects the differernces between others who may not agree with them.

Some of the "white" libreral blogs I keep track of have (yes, even some here at jjp) have shown downright disrespect towards anyone who dared to greive or feel anything but utter contempt for MJ.

Anyway, I'm probably not making any sense, but ah...well.

i hear you
im stepping away from some of them
they are treating Michael's death like a joke
i guess it takes something like this
to let you know how certain people really feel


and your right no one is asking them to love Michael
they don't even have to like him
but atleast give him some respect

i think they would treat George Bush death with more respect and he's responsible for thousands of inoccent people being killed

Most of the blogs I frequented last year I no longer go to. As much as the mainstream progressive blogs want to deny it, they do smack of elitism and white privilege at times. I especially started to notice it when they were ready to impeach PBO before he even got sworn in because he wouldn't jump to it and deal with their pet concerns right. this. minute. And they've really shown their true colors (no pun intended) since January 20. I seriously doubt if Hillary was president the bloggers would be sweating her to this extent. Double standard, much?

*coughcoughDailyKoscoughcough*

I started following blogs during the primaries last year. Started off at Huffington Post, then branched out to Daily Kos and Talking Points Memo. Huff Post started to get more and more sensationalist, and TPM kinda got stale after the election, so I spent most of my time browsing Daily Kos.

Kossacks like to say how progressive they are, but I found out that many there have their own pet causes, and if President Obama didn't address their concerns right then and there, they were quick to call him a sell-out, no better than Bush, etc. I noticed this when the whole thing with FISA broke out. They turned against him with a quickness.

And don't even get started on DOMA and DADT, two things Bill Clinton signed into law. Many gays love the Clintons, but are suspicious of Barack Obama because he hasn't overturned those two laws, even though he cannot overstep his Constitutional duties.

Needless to say, I don't lurk at Daily Kos as much as I used to. Oh, well, at least Daily Kos led me here to Jack & Jill Politics.

I linked here first from DKos as well. DKos folks are sanctimonious, petty and too reactionary to have good discussions. I loved TPM, but you are so right they became staid, basically when they changed their reply format. There were good discussions prior to that. I like HuffPo, just to know what is in the news, they have a nice spectrum of coverage, with the living/style/sports AND politics.

But for political discussion JJP is just about it!

" DKos folks are sanctimonious, petty and too reactionary to have good discussions."

You ain't never lied, whiterosebuddy. I don't mean to generalize, since it's probably not a majority that acts that way, but I guess it's easy to come to that conclusion since they are the most vocal.

lamh32

I know what you mean. One in particular blog that has been my home for 5 years, I just pulled away from. Many are not very compassionate and I do not think all that bright because culture and being a progressive go hand and hand. And Michael Jackson was Progressive - he cared for his fellow beings on earth and acted on it in song and giving. I am not saying he was a saint, but I am saying he did not deserve the contempt that some of them spewed.

It opened my eyes to where I will spend my hits.

I responded to your post about this another thread. Again you make perfect sense. One person I'm very disappointed to see among the haters is Bob Herbert. I posted a link on the Serena Williams thread. He was pretty much connect Michael Jackson for ever ill in the US.

No, you're making a lot of sense. Some, NOT all of those who leave comments at liberal sites (*coughSalon.comcough*) are such freakin' posers.

Some are the usual subjects that ooze disdain for ANY pop artist. A lot of them are full of it, and are a bunch of no-talent hacks that are more famous for being famous. I get it. But I submit that most of them are such posers. I'm sure that when Paul McCartney dies, folks will be wailing...but that'll be OK because he was a Beatle. Anyway...

Michael Jackson is not just an icon, but an important figure in our cultural, artisitic and racial history. Was the man perfect? Hell, no. But his work soothed us, shaped our image and brought joy to millions around the world. And I am so glad that he had a tasteful service that IMO, restored to him the dignity that he deserved.

And I am so glad that he had a tasteful service that IMO, restored to him the dignity that he deserved.


Yes indeed. It was carried out so beautiful.

Some are the usual subjects that ooze disdain for ANY pop artist. A lot of them are full of it, and are a bunch of no-talent hacks that are more famous for being famous. I get it. But I submit that most of them are such posers.

You mean one of these types:

"I'm just so hip and cool that I only listen to native folk music from Uzbekistan. All other music is just mediocre pablum for the unwashed masses."

or (my personal favorite)

"I threw out my TV years ago. It's all garbage that rots your brain, pick up a book instead."

Like being progressive and enjoying pop culture are mutually exclusive. People like that annoy the hell out of me with their pretentiousness.

DING! DING! DING!

LMAO re: native folk music from Uzbekistan. TOO funny!

So many incredible moments. Stevie just laid me out and John Mayer played the hell out of my favorite Michael song. Thanks so much Rikyrah.

Oh Yes....John Mayer did it!

I wonder who it was in the family that requested him? Who were the guitar players jermaine and tito? Cause Mayer said, on LarryKing, he did not know and had not met MJ, so when he was asked he clarified with them was it the family requesting him or not. His remarks were not only interesting but very compassionate.

Yup,

Jermaine & Tito were the guitar players!

Jermaine looked too dang good back then...playing that guitar! :)

Why are some of these media folks acting like the Jacksons didn't have relatives? Damn..HELLO! Cousins! Uncles! Aunts! 2nd Cousins! Godparents! We aren't limited to "immediate family" where I come from. I have cousins that may as well be my siblings. My sister was just saying when we were all home for the 4th that its laughable the little 3 bereavement days most companies extend to employees...whatever...if one of my daddy's cousins dies that practically help raised me, I'm gone for a week. Damn....that family is huge and Paris, Prince and Blanket have cousins that they KNOW...they know their extended family. WTF?!! Is this a foreign concept??

Tell it, Miranda. It really does take a village. It is about CONNECTION.

It may be foreign to folks who ahve lived their whole lives surviving and thriving off the fact that blacks are misplaced and disconnnected from each other.

When my mother died, I took 2 weeks. I told my supervisor; I didn't ask.

How you gonna tell folks, "You got 3 days to grieve, now get back to work."

Hell naw.

Yes, life goes on, when we loose loved ones, but grief isn't a cookie cutter activity.

I'm trying to tell ya...I was raised by a village. I have taken a couple of days because Elder Scarbrough died at the church I grew up in and he was the end all - be all of that little country church...I had to go pay my respects because he touched my life. I dont get this cutting family off for all times and not knowing your extended family thing. I've had co-workers look at me like I have two heads when I talk about going to a family reunion...what the hell? That can't possibly just be a black family thing, can it?

Really. It's as if you're an orphan or a loner.

They have no concept of anyone's life outside of themselves.

It's sad, really, to live in that bubble of self-absorbed white priviledge.

Who's the slave, and who's the MASTER?

They just can't help themselves. Successful Black people just confound them.

It seems like just the concept of FAMILY is confounding them today!

Rev Al brought home the truth, bless him.

Rev Al told the truth and I'm so glad he did!

under a picture of one of my most beloved teachers, i have a quote of hers that i try to remember every day:

"we don't need to see through each other,
we need to see each other through. . . "

rev. al's sermon saw michael and his spirit through. and when people are in the presence of that kind of truth, well they recognize it in their hearts and souls. rev. al showed how to represent with truth and love.

The toughest part of getting to the top of the ladder, is getting through the crowd at the bottom.
- Anonymous

You speak truth, Zackboston.

AMEN!

can I just say I can't stand Donny Deustch ass

Man TVONE has an after-show program on discussing MJ, and it is FIRE!!!!

If I wasn't already done with BET (it lost it's place in my recorder round the time MTV bought it, and they ended Video Soul), then I would from now on be tuning in to TVONE.

Cathy Hughes brought dignity back to TRUE Black entertainmrnt televison with TVONE.

OOPS!!! IT'S NOT TVONE....IT'S BET!!!! DAMN!!!

Still gonna be a TVONE, BET lost me a while ago.

Jermaine messed up the words of "Smile"...but it is touching to see a brother beside himself with love...for the "freak".

It looked like he had to read the lyrics but who could blame him under the circumstances. I wouldn't have been able to do it AT ALL!

Indeed.

It was charming, and sad..as I often scramble the words when I sing that same song.. It was poignant to me because he said: Light up your face with SADNESS, hide every trace of GLADNESS...which is what I sometimes sing, and it changes the entire message of the song.

Check out Larry King tonight for Michael's dermatologist's ideas about how MJ viewed himself. It seems he also thinks Mike saw his face as a piece of art.

Ditto. I am amazed that he did it, and he sang the song so well. The notes he sang touched me so much. He was simply amazing. I couldn't do it and my hat's off to him.

Go Al!

I've always had a soft spot for Reverends who don't talk about god.

rikyrah, YOU TOTALLY ROCK!!!

Thank you so much.... luv ya!

Co-Signing on that!

Rikyrah totally rocks!