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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Getting Heated Now&#8230;.Brown Man has some thoughts</title>
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		<title>By: Xgangsta</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-344304</link>
		<dc:creator>Xgangsta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I agree with the overall conclusion of this post it has a major failing. You are speaking a language few &quot;gangsta&#039;s&quot; understand. You are doing what Jesus calles, &quot;trying to put new wine in old wine skins&quot; Our people who with this faulty conditioning have a warped value system to the point where right and wrong carries irrational/self-destructive meanings. As Jesus states, &quot; Father forgive them for they know not what they do&quot; stop casting pearls amongst swine (pig-mentality) and address the faulty conditioning that has devalued the right and glorified the wrong..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree with the overall conclusion of this post it has a major failing. You are speaking a language few &#8220;gangsta&#39;s&#8221; understand. You are doing what Jesus calles, &#8220;trying to put new wine in old wine skins&#8221; Our people who with this faulty conditioning have a warped value system to the point where right and wrong carries irrational/self-destructive meanings. As Jesus states, &#8221; Father forgive them for they know not what they do&#8221; stop casting pearls amongst swine (pig-mentality) and address the faulty conditioning that has devalued the right and glorified the wrong..</p>
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		<title>By: Xgangsta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xgangsta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I agree with the overall conclusion of this post it has a major failing. You are speaking a language few &quot;gangsta&#039;s&quot; understand. You are doing what Jesus calles, &quot;trying to put new wine in old wine skins&quot; Our people who with this faulty conditioning have a warped value system to the point where right and wrong carries irrational/self-destructive meanings. As Jesus states, &quot; Father forgive them for they know not what they do&quot; stop casting pearls amongst swine (pig-mentality) and address the faulty conditioning that has devalued the right and glorified the wrong..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree with the overall conclusion of this post it has a major failing. You are speaking a language few &#8220;gangsta&#39;s&#8221; understand. You are doing what Jesus calles, &#8220;trying to put new wine in old wine skins&#8221; Our people who with this faulty conditioning have a warped value system to the point where right and wrong carries irrational/self-destructive meanings. As Jesus states, &#8221; Father forgive them for they know not what they do&#8221; stop casting pearls amongst swine (pig-mentality) and address the faulty conditioning that has devalued the right and glorified the wrong..</p>
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		<title>By: TAG60</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAG60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok now i really need to see TOWN&#039;s original post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok now i really need to see TOWN&#39;s original post.</p>
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		<title>By: abe7chgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>abe7chgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re dead on- it&#039;s in our hands and our stature will be determined through excellence.  Excellence in education, culture, business, and leadership.  We are not going back to Africa and no one is asking for us to return unless as tourists.  This is it.  Lets do this right here. We can start with crime in our communities.  we can start by just reading more to our children....we can start...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re dead on- it&#39;s in our hands and our stature will be determined through excellence.  Excellence in education, culture, business, and leadership.  We are not going back to Africa and no one is asking for us to return unless as tourists.  This is it.  Lets do this right here. We can start with crime in our communities.  we can start by just reading more to our children&#8230;.we can start&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ch555x</title>
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		<dc:creator>ch555x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can easily see it on the TV 24/7 as well most music genres on the radio...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL!</p>
<p>You can easily see it on the TV 24/7 as well most music genres on the radio&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WordSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I thought it was time for someone to address the impact of the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) Act. &lt;b&gt;One of the main challenges of NCLB is to address the problems of the achievement gap for minority students. I was really shocked to learn that there is a five-year discrepancy between minority students and Caucasian students, meaning that African-American and Latino students graduate from high school with a seventh- or eighth-grade reading level.&lt;/b&gt; How did this happen, and why is this allowed to exist? I felt that a documentary on minority education would take this law quite literally by focusing on the children who are being left behind.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I thought it was time for someone to address the impact of the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) Act. <b>One of the main challenges of NCLB is to address the problems of the achievement gap for minority students. I was really shocked to learn that there is a five-year discrepancy between minority students and Caucasian students, meaning that African-American and Latino students graduate from high school with a seventh- or eighth-grade reading level.</b> How did this happen, and why is this allowed to exist? I felt that a documentary on minority education would take this law quite literally by focusing on the children who are being left behind.</i></p>
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		<title>By: JunePearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JunePearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing wrong with asking for solutions. I&#039;m on a board for an advocacy organization, I have come to be known as the person who will take discussion in an outcomes-based direction. Asking for solutions is crucial, which is why I did not say anything was wrong with it. In fact, from my reading of whiterosebuddy&#039;s previous post, I can see that it&#039;s coming from a genuine place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, as someone who has been volunteering for years, and who works in the service sector, I can tell you that this conversation is not new. &lt;b&gt;This conversation has been had by people at family reunions, dinner tables, hair salons/barbarshops, street corners, board meetings, and even spoken word performances&lt;/b&gt;. This ain&#039;t new. And the final question of &quot;What are the solutions&quot; aren&#039;t new either. We have ideas to try out, we have solutions that work, we have things that are in effect right now even!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What we need to do at this point is do our part. If you don&#039;t know what to do, join your local service organization that resonates with you (Big Brother/Sister, religious mentoring programs, NAACP *snicker*, that was just for y&#039;all, lol!) and find out what options work for you. And if you already know what to do, do it!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I stress, converstation is great, it is the starting point. We must now move to the level of doing the work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the reason I have such a personal investment in this is because of the fact that I see this everyday at work, and at different (more terrifying) levels in my mentoring of young women. We are really at the cusp of it being too late. Seriously. It is time to get busy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong with asking for solutions. I&#39;m on a board for an advocacy organization, I have come to be known as the person who will take discussion in an outcomes-based direction. Asking for solutions is crucial, which is why I did not say anything was wrong with it. In fact, from my reading of whiterosebuddy&#39;s previous post, I can see that it&#39;s coming from a genuine place.</p>
<p>However, as someone who has been volunteering for years, and who works in the service sector, I can tell you that this conversation is not new. <b>This conversation has been had by people at family reunions, dinner tables, hair salons/barbarshops, street corners, board meetings, and even spoken word performances</b>. This ain&#39;t new. And the final question of &#8220;What are the solutions&#8221; aren&#39;t new either. We have ideas to try out, we have solutions that work, we have things that are in effect right now even!</p>
<p>What we need to do at this point is do our part. If you don&#39;t know what to do, join your local service organization that resonates with you (Big Brother/Sister, religious mentoring programs, NAACP *snicker*, that was just for y&#39;all, lol!) and find out what options work for you. And if you already know what to do, do it!</p>
<p>I stress, converstation is great, it is the starting point. We must now move to the level of doing the work.</p>
<p>I think the reason I have such a personal investment in this is because of the fact that I see this everyday at work, and at different (more terrifying) levels in my mentoring of young women. We are really at the cusp of it being too late. Seriously. It is time to get busy.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, this was a high school in Baltimore. Its not On Demand right now. It was so damn sad Webb...OMG, this was so sad &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hbo.com/docs/docuseries/hardtimes/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hbo.com/docs/docuseries/hardtimes/in...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, this was a high school in Baltimore. Its not On Demand right now. It was so damn sad Webb&#8230;OMG, this was so sad <a href="http://www.hbo.com/docs/docuseries/hardtimes/index.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.hbo.com/docs/docuseries/hardtimes/in.." rel="nofollow">http://www.hbo.com/docs/docuseries/hardtimes/in..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
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		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are probably right.</description>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243473</link>
		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s that drum major instinct, I guess. &lt;&lt;shrug&gt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s that drum major instinct, I guess. &lt;&lt;shrug&gt;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243455</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it affects the rich as well as the poor, the powerful and the powerless, the famous as well as the obscure. It’s prevalent in the suites of our nation’s CEOs, the Congress, the military, and even our universities. It defines this nation.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;oooooooooooooooooooo...I like that.  So o targer..so astute</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it affects the rich as well as the poor, the powerful and the powerless, the famous as well as the obscure. It’s prevalent in the suites of our nation’s CEOs, the Congress, the military, and even our universities. It defines this nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>oooooooooooooooooooo&#8230;I like that.  So o targer..so astute</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243448</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing new or different about this...him. He&#039;s always been around, and he can still be recognized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s nothing new or different about this&#8230;him. He&#39;s always been around, and he can still be recognized.</p>
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		<title>By: Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243440</link>
		<dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They did a doc about ATL&#039;s Douglass??? WHoa, when was it on the air?  I missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did a doc about ATL&#39;s Douglass??? WHoa, when was it on the air?  I missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243439</link>
		<dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh______________, gangstuh.  This is the part of the Color Purple where Mister&#039;s Daddy (Adolpho Caesar) says, &quot;My G_d, the dead has arisen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh______________, gangstuh.  This is the part of the Color Purple where Mister&#39;s Daddy (Adolpho Caesar) says, &#8220;My G_d, the dead has arisen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243435</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much.</description>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243430</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We fear, we&#039;re too set, so we retreat to pat answers.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WE retreat to pat answers? What&#039;s more &quot;pat&quot; than calling for death squads and forced sterilization?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We fear, we&#39;re too set, so we retreat to pat answers.&#8221;</p>
<p>WE retreat to pat answers? What&#39;s more &#8220;pat&#8221; than calling for death squads and forced sterilization?</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243428</link>
		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s a case of a publicity stunt to drum up readership for their blog.</description>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/its-getting-heated-nowbrown-man-has-some-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-243420</link>
		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Brown man is just as caught up in the artificial boundaries as he accuses other people of being.</description>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
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		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry what is wrong with asking for solutions? If you are going to point out problems you should have solutions, it part of having a strong argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m sorry what is wrong with asking for solutions? If you are going to point out problems you should have solutions, it part of having a strong argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to spend a lot of time on the Jena 6 thing, but what you don&#039;t understand is that it wasn&#039;t a matter of black people having their heartstrings pulled by the Jena 6. It was a matter of self-perservation. One doesn&#039;t have to think they did the right thing in jumping on Barker in order to see that...any more than anyone had to condone what Ernesto Miranda did in order to appreciate what came out of his situation with the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not going to spend a lot of time on the Jena 6 thing, but what you don&#39;t understand is that it wasn&#39;t a matter of black people having their heartstrings pulled by the Jena 6. It was a matter of self-perservation. One doesn&#39;t have to think they did the right thing in jumping on Barker in order to see that&#8230;any more than anyone had to condone what Ernesto Miranda did in order to appreciate what came out of his situation with the law.</p>
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