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		<title>By: khrish</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-4/#comment-349850</link>
		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing when one gets the right to make a choice for oneself and maybe didn&#039;t like the results of that choice.....They want to deny anyone else the same opportunity for choice that they had?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#39;t it amazing when one gets the right to make a choice for oneself and maybe didn&#39;t like the results of that choice&#8230;..They want to deny anyone else the same opportunity for choice that they had?</p>
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		<title>By: WordSmith</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-4/#comment-349851</link>
		<dc:creator>WordSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point that MDI is attempting to get from us is an unequivocal &quot;all politician&#039;s children are off limits&quot; regardless of age.  That premise is unacceptable because &#039;children&#039; grow into adults and cannot be unequivocal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regardless of who was treated worse, it can be said that it is considered inappropriate to attack the &quot;under age&quot; children of any politician.  (Under age in this case meaning the age of majority most often recognized as 18.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The sticking point:  MDI made an &#039;accusation&#039; regarding the posters here going off on the underage children of politicians.  When asked to provide proof, what then transpires is this idiotic back and forth to first claim all children of all politicians off limits.  It&#039;s not going to happen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You cannot make an accusation and then expect those you accuse to prove your point.  The onus for &lt;u&gt;that &lt;/u&gt; is on the one doing the accusing - ITC.... mon_dieu_ishmael   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s simple - provide the proof or shut the fuck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point that MDI is attempting to get from us is an unequivocal &#8220;all politician&#39;s children are off limits&#8221; regardless of age.  That premise is unacceptable because &#39;children&#39; grow into adults and cannot be unequivocal.</p>
<p>Regardless of who was treated worse, it can be said that it is considered inappropriate to attack the &#8220;under age&#8221; children of any politician.  (Under age in this case meaning the age of majority most often recognized as 18.)</p>
<p>The sticking point:  MDI made an &#39;accusation&#39; regarding the posters here going off on the underage children of politicians.  When asked to provide proof, what then transpires is this idiotic back and forth to first claim all children of all politicians off limits.  It&#39;s not going to happen.</p>
<p>You cannot make an accusation and then expect those you accuse to prove your point.  The onus for <u>that </u> is on the one doing the accusing &#8211; ITC&#8230;. mon_dieu_ishmael   </p>
<p>It&#39;s simple &#8211; provide the proof or shut the fuck up.</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-4/#comment-237710</link>
		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing when one gets the right to make a choice for oneself and maybe didn&#039;t like the results of that choice.....They want to deny anyone else the same opportunity for choice that they had?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#39;t it amazing when one gets the right to make a choice for oneself and maybe didn&#39;t like the results of that choice&#8230;..They want to deny anyone else the same opportunity for choice that they had?</p>
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		<title>By: WordSmith</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-4/#comment-237409</link>
		<dc:creator>WordSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point that MDI is attempting to get from us is an unequivocal &quot;all politician&#039;s children are off limits&quot; regardless of age.  That premise is unacceptable because &#039;children&#039; grow into adults and cannot be unequivocal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regardless of who was treated worse, it can be said that it is considered inappropriate to attack the &quot;under age&quot; children of any politician.  (Under age in this case meaning the age of majority most often recognized as 18.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The sticking point:  MDI made an &#039;accusation&#039; regarding the posters here going off on the underage children of politicians.  When asked to provide proof, what then transpires is this idiotic back and forth to first claim all children of all politicians off limits.  It&#039;s not going to happen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You cannot make an accusation and then expect those you accuse to prove your point.  The onus for &lt;u&gt;that &lt;/u&gt; is on the one doing the accusing - ITC....MDI.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s simple - provide the proof or shut the fuck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point that MDI is attempting to get from us is an unequivocal &#8220;all politician&#39;s children are off limits&#8221; regardless of age.  That premise is unacceptable because &#39;children&#39; grow into adults and cannot be unequivocal.</p>
<p>Regardless of who was treated worse, it can be said that it is considered inappropriate to attack the &#8220;under age&#8221; children of any politician.  (Under age in this case meaning the age of majority most often recognized as 18.)</p>
<p>The sticking point:  MDI made an &#39;accusation&#39; regarding the posters here going off on the underage children of politicians.  When asked to provide proof, what then transpires is this idiotic back and forth to first claim all children of all politicians off limits.  It&#39;s not going to happen.</p>
<p>You cannot make an accusation and then expect those you accuse to prove your point.  The onus for <u>that </u> is on the one doing the accusing &#8211; ITC&#8230;.MDI.</p>
<p>It&#39;s simple &#8211; provide the proof or shut the fuck up.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s a politician&#039;s daughter, so now you have caveats. In other words, you&#039;re just making it up as you go along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#39;s a politician&#39;s daughter, so now you have caveats. In other words, you&#39;re just making it up as you go along.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzikal203</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muzikal203</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the cheap shots were at Sarah Palin for being a hypocrite still preaching abstinence only when her own daughter ended up knocked up which should have shown her that policy was misguided. Hell, Bristol herself said it was unrealistic until Sarah reminded her what she was supposed ot be saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the cheap shots were at Sarah Palin for being a hypocrite still preaching abstinence only when her own daughter ended up knocked up which should have shown her that policy was misguided. Hell, Bristol herself said it was unrealistic until Sarah reminded her what she was supposed ot be saying.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237037</link>
		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are full of crap.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The key point that you seem to be missing is that these so-called &quot;cheap shots&quot; were taken at an 18 year old woman. No where on this blog was she called a street whore. She was not called a slut or any other offensive name. No one ragged on her for wearing shorts and a t-shirt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now as far as Sarah Palin is concerned, we called her a sno-ho b/c that&#039;s what she is. I think you seem to be conflating the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are full of crap.</p>
<p>The key point that you seem to be missing is that these so-called &#8220;cheap shots&#8221; were taken at an 18 year old woman. No where on this blog was she called a street whore. She was not called a slut or any other offensive name. No one ragged on her for wearing shorts and a t-shirt.</p>
<p>Now as far as Sarah Palin is concerned, we called her a sno-ho b/c that&#39;s what she is. I think you seem to be conflating the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237033</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what do you call &quot;defending the joke&quot;? You see, that&#039;s why Palin and the Palinites insisted that Letterman didn&#039;t get the names mixed up, as he obviously did, but was actually talking about the 14=year-old. They could accuse anyone who pointed out that he wasn&#039;t talking about the 14 year old, and anyone who disagreed that he was a &quot;pedophile&quot;, of &quot;defending the joke&quot;. Don&#039;t you know how transparent that shit is? You should know it&#039;s not going to work here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what do you call &#8220;defending the joke&#8221;? You see, that&#39;s why Palin and the Palinites insisted that Letterman didn&#39;t get the names mixed up, as he obviously did, but was actually talking about the 14=year-old. They could accuse anyone who pointed out that he wasn&#39;t talking about the 14 year old, and anyone who disagreed that he was a &#8220;pedophile&#8221;, of &#8220;defending the joke&#8221;. Don&#39;t you know how transparent that shit is? You should know it&#39;s not going to work here.</p>
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		<title>By: Admiral_Komack</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237030</link>
		<dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey now!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;3&lt;3&lt;3&lt;3 Maybe it was...LOVE &lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey now!</p>
<p>&lt;3&lt;3&lt;3&lt;3 Maybe it was&#8230;LOVE &lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237024</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Document.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Document.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237017</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made an accusation against posters on JJP.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We call you a liar, so prove us wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made an accusation against posters on JJP.</p>
<p>We call you a liar, so prove us wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237015</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not no but hell no!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not no but hell no!</p>
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		<title>By: danadevin74</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237013</link>
		<dc:creator>danadevin74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no i don&#039;t have to look through archives&lt;br&gt;your the one who made the accusation&lt;br&gt;therefore it&#039;s on you &lt;br&gt;to prove you aren&#039;t lying&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and if you find proof&lt;br&gt;i will apologize&lt;br&gt;until then</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no i don&#39;t have to look through archives<br />your the one who made the accusation<br />therefore it&#39;s on you <br />to prove you aren&#39;t lying</p>
<p>and if you find proof<br />i will apologize<br />until then</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237009</link>
		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I DONT&#039;S AGREE WTH YOU.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THE. END.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DONT&#39;S AGREE WTH YOU.</p>
<p>THE. END.</p>
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		<title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-237005</link>
		<dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline Kennedy was running for the US senate.  She was a politician in her own right.  (and don&#039;t tell me she was not running).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline Kennedy was running for the US senate.  She was a politician in her own right.  (and don&#39;t tell me she was not running).</p>
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		<title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-90/comment-page-3/#comment-236998</link>
		<dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tell you what, you go back over the last 8 months, ever since Bristol announced her pregnancy, and read the comments at JJP.&lt;br&gt;PPLZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tell you what, you go back over the last 8 months, ever since Bristol announced her pregnancy, and read the comments at JJP.<br />PPLZ</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? You only made that accusation in order to change the subject. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They have a script, I&#039;ll tell ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? You only made that accusation in order to change the subject. </p>
<p>They have a script, I&#39;ll tell ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;(and letterman got the wrong daughter) deserved to be called a slut, etc... .&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You lie like a rug!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>(and letterman got the wrong daughter) deserved to be called a slut, etc&#8230; .</i></p>
<p>You lie like a rug!</p>
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		<title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the subject is POLITICIANS KIDS SHOULD BE OFF LIMITS.&lt;br&gt;u all are trying to change the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the subject is POLITICIANS KIDS SHOULD BE OFF LIMITS.<br />u all are trying to change the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;People here played pile on with Palin&#039;s kids. The comments about her kids were vindictive, mean, and appalling.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t change the subject. Prove your accusation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>People here played pile on with Palin&#39;s kids. The comments about her kids were vindictive, mean, and appalling.</i></p>
<p>Don&#39;t change the subject. Prove your accusation?</p>
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