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	<description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description>
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		<title>By: Myth</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226954</link>
		<dc:creator>Myth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He knows her lifelong weakness has been Joe Jackson&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They have not lived together in over 10 years. And I would venture a guess that she wasn&#039;t weak for him for the last 30 years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nevertheless, a fourth executor close to the family would have provided her with more assurances</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He knows her lifelong weakness has been Joe Jackson&#8221;</p>
<p>They have not lived together in over 10 years. And I would venture a guess that she wasn&#39;t weak for him for the last 30 years.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, a fourth executor close to the family would have provided her with more assurances</p>
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		<title>By: NMP</title>
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		<dc:creator>NMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myth,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Firstly,  the one truism we know about Michael Jackson is that he was  &lt;br&gt;not a race man.  Moreover, ALL of his adult life, his inner circle was  &lt;br&gt;white.  Black folks may be reclaiming him in death, but he was not  &lt;br&gt;ours in life.  He rarely spoke to any of his family with the exception  &lt;br&gt;of his mom.  The people he appointed as executors were the architects  &lt;br&gt;of his biggest successes.  Why wouldn&#039;t he trust them to oversee his  &lt;br&gt;estate.  He&#039;s serving the interests of his kids.  As much as he  &lt;br&gt;obviously loves his mother, he knows her lifelong weakness has been  &lt;br&gt;Joe Jackson.  Those kids will not be wanting for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myth,</p>
<p>Firstly,  the one truism we know about Michael Jackson is that he was  <br />not a race man.  Moreover, ALL of his adult life, his inner circle was  <br />white.  Black folks may be reclaiming him in death, but he was not  <br />ours in life.  He rarely spoke to any of his family with the exception  <br />of his mom.  The people he appointed as executors were the architects  <br />of his biggest successes.  Why wouldn&#39;t he trust them to oversee his  <br />estate.  He&#39;s serving the interests of his kids.  As much as he  <br />obviously loves his mother, he knows her lifelong weakness has been  <br />Joe Jackson.  Those kids will not be wanting for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226868</link>
		<dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yr Welcome Angelar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yr Welcome Angelar.</p>
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		<title>By: Myth</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226829</link>
		<dc:creator>Myth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clifton Davis &quot;turned out&quot; MJ, When/How?  Some things I don&#039;t remember and neither do I want to recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clifton Davis &#8220;turned out&#8221; MJ, When/How?  Some things I don&#39;t remember and neither do I want to recall.</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226827</link>
		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes you just got to role the dice and hope they land on &quot;settlement&quot;.  She won&#039;t be the only one throwing their name in the hat for a chance of a payoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes you just got to role the dice and hope they land on &#8220;settlement&#8221;.  She won&#39;t be the only one throwing their name in the hat for a chance of a payoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Myth</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226826</link>
		<dc:creator>Myth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She definitely does not need Sanford&#039;s money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She definitely does not need Sanford&#39;s money!</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226815</link>
		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhh, they are going after the heroin.  The Taliban is not going to take that lightly.  Poppy fields are worth far more the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhh, they are going after the heroin.  The Taliban is not going to take that lightly.  Poppy fields are worth far more the people.</p>
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		<title>By: karlewis</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226805</link>
		<dc:creator>karlewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stand Down! In case no body told you, the people our Marines are going after came here 8 years ago. Make no mistake our enemy the Taliban will feel the might of our Devil Dogs... Hoorah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stand Down! In case no body told you, the people our Marines are going after came here 8 years ago. Make no mistake our enemy the Taliban will feel the might of our Devil Dogs&#8230; Hoorah</p>
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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226804</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gibbs got served by the press....the Obama admin. needs to learn from their arrogance....it was painful to listen to Gibbs and his giggle laugh today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gibbs got served by the press&#8230;.the Obama admin. needs to learn from their arrogance&#8230;.it was painful to listen to Gibbs and his giggle laugh today!</p>
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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226802</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thousands of US Marines Launch Operation in Afghanistan&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.antiwar.com/2009/07/01/thousands-of-us-troops-launch-operation-in-afghanistan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.antiwar.com/2009/07/01/thousands-of...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Helmand Governor Predicts Success&lt;br&gt;by Jason Ditz, July 01, 2009 &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Thousands of US Marines launched a massive offensive into the villages of the Helmand River Valley, which they intend to purge of all insurgents before the August 20 presidential election. Military officials describe the offensive as the first major operation of the Obama Administration’s revamped strategy. Helmand’s governor has reportedly predicted the offensive will be a success.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides the large number of troops involved in the attack, officials say the operation is set apart from previous ones in that they intend to remain in the area for a prolonged period of time. Helmand, the center of British operations in Afghanistan, has seen some of the worst violence in the nation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is unclear how the Marines intend to operate in Afghan villages considering General Stanfley McChrystal’s reported order to stop engaging in fights near the homes of Afghan civilians. Recently US troops operating in and around populated areas have called in air strikes killing enormous numbers of civilians.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Despite repeated calls from commanders for the US to commit even more troops to the conflict, National Security Adviser James Jones declared today that he had told commanders that the administration won’t consider adding more troops beyond the planned surge this year, though President Obama was considering deploying an additional 10,000 troops at some point in 2010.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thousands of US Marines Launch Operation in Afghanistan</p>
<p><a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2009/07/01/thousands-of-us-troops-launch-operation-in-afghanistan/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2009/07/01/thousands-of.." rel="nofollow">http://news.antiwar.com/2009/07/01/thousands-of..</a>.</p>
<p>Helmand Governor Predicts Success<br />by Jason Ditz, July 01, 2009 </p>
<p>&#8220;Thousands of US Marines launched a massive offensive into the villages of the Helmand River Valley, which they intend to purge of all insurgents before the August 20 presidential election. Military officials describe the offensive as the first major operation of the Obama Administration’s revamped strategy. Helmand’s governor has reportedly predicted the offensive will be a success.</p>
<p>Besides the large number of troops involved in the attack, officials say the operation is set apart from previous ones in that they intend to remain in the area for a prolonged period of time. Helmand, the center of British operations in Afghanistan, has seen some of the worst violence in the nation.</p>
<p>It is unclear how the Marines intend to operate in Afghan villages considering General Stanfley McChrystal’s reported order to stop engaging in fights near the homes of Afghan civilians. Recently US troops operating in and around populated areas have called in air strikes killing enormous numbers of civilians.</p>
<p>Despite repeated calls from commanders for the US to commit even more troops to the conflict, National Security Adviser James Jones declared today that he had told commanders that the administration won’t consider adding more troops beyond the planned surge this year, though President Obama was considering deploying an additional 10,000 troops at some point in 2010.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice memories...took me back...I remembered that waswhen I learned that Clifton Davis turned out MJ...after becoming the J5 manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice memories&#8230;took me back&#8230;I remembered that waswhen I learned that Clifton Davis turned out MJ&#8230;after becoming the J5 manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the times are are definitely changing...I don&#039;t see this as small stuff.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama..has truly become the Commander in Chief in more ways than one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/07/01/marines-launch-major-push-in-afghanistan/?cxntfid=blogs_jay_bookman_blog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/07/0...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the times are are definitely changing&#8230;I don&#39;t see this as small stuff.  </p>
<p>President Obama..has truly become the Commander in Chief in more ways than one.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/07/01/marines-launch-major-push-in-afghanistan/?cxntfid=blogs_jay_bookman_blog" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/07/0.." rel="nofollow">http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/07/0..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know what look he&#039;s going for....but the drunken vinyl siding salesman look is what appears to be his goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know what look he&#39;s going for&#8230;.but the drunken vinyl siding salesman look is what appears to be his goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/07/afternoon-open-thread-80/comment-page-3/#comment-226790</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh? Dat you, D?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? Dat you, D?</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scorcese directed Bad???????????? DAYUM MJ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scorcese directed Bad???????????? DAYUM MJ!</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You going to hell!!!! ROFLMAO!! And sending me with you dammit!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You going to hell!!!! ROFLMAO!! And sending me with you dammit!!</p>
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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02afghan.html?_r=1&amp;hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;U.S. Marines Try to Retake Afghan Valley From Taliban</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02afghan.html?_r=1&#038;hp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02..</a>.</p>
<p>U.S. Marines Try to Retake Afghan Valley From Taliban</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was nice, thanks</description>
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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, I think not exaggerated....morning will bring other news&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02afghan.html?_r=1&amp;hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, I think not exaggerated&#8230;.morning will bring other news</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02afghan.html?_r=1&#038;hp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/world/asia/02..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: isonprize</title>
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		<dc:creator>isonprize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, uh... they weren&#039;t &#039;fleeing&#039; much of anywhere...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(on my way to the bad chair as I type this...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, uh&#8230; they weren&#39;t &#39;fleeing&#39; much of anywhere&#8230;</p>
<p>(on my way to the bad chair as I type this&#8230;)</p>
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