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	<title>Comments on: Saturday Open Thread</title>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/saturday-open-thread-51/comment-page-3/#comment-223579</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what makes MJ extraordinary amongst genius musical talent is that he is multigenerational..he spans more than one generation, unlike Elvis and the Beatles...that is what makes him so transcendent. There is no other musical talent of the modern era with that type of span...we have to go all the way back to Bach to find one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what makes MJ extraordinary amongst genius musical talent is that he is multigenerational..he spans more than one generation, unlike Elvis and the Beatles&#8230;that is what makes him so transcendent. There is no other musical talent of the modern era with that type of span&#8230;we have to go all the way back to Bach to find one.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...that is pretty.&lt;br&gt;Think I will order one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;that is pretty.<br />Think I will order one.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yepper. Four little boys, too?  Sanford looks sooo bad every time folks see that picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yepper. Four little boys, too?  Sanford looks sooo bad every time folks see that picture.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/saturday-open-thread-51/comment-page-3/#comment-223575</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write up H&amp;F...Sanford is definitely her own woman. She is independently wealthy, a Georgetown graduate and former WallStreet Exec...the woman knows who and what she is...in fact..she is quoted as saying &#039;I didn&#039;t think he had it in him&quot;...after he requested to go see Maria and she said..NO and threw his but out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am particularly impressed by her focus on her children&#039;s character. It has to be a awful burden to raise FOUR sons, knowing their father is an adulterer to respect not only women, but themselves as well. She is focused and I believe she will be successful even though she will need some type of male role model for them, hopeful she has good brothers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, the second sentence in the last paragraph should reads &#039;weigh sacrifices&#039; instead of outweigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write up H&#038;F&#8230;Sanford is definitely her own woman. She is independently wealthy, a Georgetown graduate and former WallStreet Exec&#8230;the woman knows who and what she is&#8230;in fact..she is quoted as saying &#39;I didn&#39;t think he had it in him&#8221;&#8230;after he requested to go see Maria and she said..NO and threw his but out.</p>
<p>I am particularly impressed by her focus on her children&#39;s character. It has to be a awful burden to raise FOUR sons, knowing their father is an adulterer to respect not only women, but themselves as well. She is focused and I believe she will be successful even though she will need some type of male role model for them, hopeful she has good brothers.</p>
<p>BTW, the second sentence in the last paragraph should reads &#39;weigh sacrifices&#39; instead of outweigh.</p>
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		<title>By: eclecticbrotha</title>
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		<dc:creator>eclecticbrotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, that&#039;s a lot of hate bubbling over right there. Pulling a knife on someone because they appreciated MJ&#039;s contributions to the entertainment industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, that&#39;s a lot of hate bubbling over right there. Pulling a knife on someone because they appreciated MJ&#39;s contributions to the entertainment industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, that&#039;s what I&#039;m thinking Val...this is ultra LUST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, that&#39;s what I&#39;m thinking Val&#8230;this is ultra LUST.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doesn&#039;t matter.  the more they do that the higher the sales on his records.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All they are doing is elevating Michael higher but opposite from what they wanted to accomplish.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doesn&#39;t matter.  the more they do that the higher the sales on his records.</p>
<p>All they are doing is elevating Michael higher but opposite from what they wanted to accomplish.</p>
<p>wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep she is impacting Luke&#039;s career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep she is impacting Luke&#39;s career.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think love for Maria had anything to do with the price of rice in China. It boiled down to Maria laid some good bilingual ***** on him and he lost his ever loving mind.  Been sniffing behind her ever since.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but love. . . . nah not even in that equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think love for Maria had anything to do with the price of rice in China. It boiled down to Maria laid some good bilingual ***** on him and he lost his ever loving mind.  Been sniffing behind her ever since.  </p>
<p>but love. . . . nah not even in that equation.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prince has &quot;it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prince has &#8220;it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>use MW Snap3&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can capture anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>use MW Snap3</p>
<p>You can capture anything.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
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		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What gives Orth the creds to paint the idea that Michael Jackson dying the way he did was&quot;good&quot; the way he&#039;d want to die?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because Jackson had been quoted variously as saying that he was going to go like Elvis, or that he was  expecting it, or that it would not be so bad.  Even Lisa Marie Presley spoke of his morbid thoughts, and she was married to him, as well as being a friend since childhood.  Orth and Diane Dimond merely reported on things like this like everyone else.  Both of these reporters followed and examined the cases to the point where they are considered experts on them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You could say that the panel--I saw it too--was trying to temper the mood of the fans, not damn Michael with faint praise, so to speak.  His personal life was hell, and in a lot of ways,&lt;b&gt; he was responsible for that hell.&lt;/b&gt;   It&#039;s a cautionary note that when we say we want to be like somebody (John Belushi, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe), to take care that we don&#039;t give in to the darkness that destroyed them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like I said, Saint Timmeh was no favorite of mine.  And while I think that I feel Michael&#039;s loss, my view of him is not like those who are sitting in the street, bemoaning their loss(es) (I&#039;m sure that Jackson isn&#039;t the only thing they&#039;ve lost this year) with nothing out there to help them to listen to reason.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I remember when he had a nose.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I remember when he told us to get it together or leave it alone, and to keep on looking through the windows.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I remember when he was the Scarecrow in &lt;i&gt;The Wiz&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I remember the &lt;i&gt;Motown 30th Anniversary&lt;/i&gt;on TV, when he did the moonwalk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I remember the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What gives Orth the creds to paint the idea that Michael Jackson dying the way he did was&#8221;good&#8221; the way he&#39;d want to die?</i></p>
<p>Because Jackson had been quoted variously as saying that he was going to go like Elvis, or that he was  expecting it, or that it would not be so bad.  Even Lisa Marie Presley spoke of his morbid thoughts, and she was married to him, as well as being a friend since childhood.  Orth and Diane Dimond merely reported on things like this like everyone else.  Both of these reporters followed and examined the cases to the point where they are considered experts on them.</p>
<p>You could say that the panel&#8211;I saw it too&#8211;was trying to temper the mood of the fans, not damn Michael with faint praise, so to speak.  His personal life was hell, and in a lot of ways,<b> he was responsible for that hell.</b>   It&#39;s a cautionary note that when we say we want to be like somebody (John Belushi, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe), to take care that we don&#39;t give in to the darkness that destroyed them.</p>
<p>Like I said, Saint Timmeh was no favorite of mine.  And while I think that I feel Michael&#39;s loss, my view of him is not like those who are sitting in the street, bemoaning their loss(es) (I&#39;m sure that Jackson isn&#39;t the only thing they&#39;ve lost this year) with nothing out there to help them to listen to reason.  </p>
<p>I remember when he had a nose.</p>
<p>I remember when he told us to get it together or leave it alone, and to keep on looking through the windows.</p>
<p>I remember when he was the Scarecrow in <i>The Wiz</i>.</p>
<p>I remember the <i>Motown 30th Anniversary</i>on TV, when he did the moonwalk.</p>
<p>I remember the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He might just get counted in the 2010 Census.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;YOU&lt;br&gt;AINT&lt;br&gt;RIGHT!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BWA HAHAHAHA!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He might just get counted in the 2010 Census.&#8221; </p>
<p>YOU<br />AINT<br />RIGHT!</p>
<p>BWA HAHAHAHA!!</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>teeheehee.....why you lettin the cat out the bag Sepia?? LOL...that&#039;s supposed to be kept undercover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>teeheehee&#8230;..why you lettin the cat out the bag Sepia?? LOL&#8230;that&#39;s supposed to be kept undercover.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU AINT RIGHT!!!! ROFLMAO!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU AINT RIGHT!!!! ROFLMAO!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know it!!! As far as I&#039;m concerned, when band camp commences at Famu, Bama State, Hampton, Howard, Grambling, Southern, TN St., Al A&amp;M, Skeegee, NC A&amp;T, Jackson St, etc....DAMMIT IT BETS TO BE NUTHIN BUT MICHAEL JACKSON FROM MORNIN TILL NIGHT - freshmen better come in and the first piece of sheet music they get better be &quot;I Want You Back&quot;!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seriously, there are enough songs between MJ and the Jackson 5 that a radio station wouldn&#039;t even repeat a song for 3 or 4 days!! Why aren&#039;t they recognizing!?!?! This is a prime opportunity to teach the babies about actual songs that mean some shit instead of this dreadful crap by the likes of Hurricane Chris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know it!!! As far as I&#39;m concerned, when band camp commences at Famu, Bama State, Hampton, Howard, Grambling, Southern, TN St., Al A&#038;M, Skeegee, NC A&#038;T, Jackson St, etc&#8230;.DAMMIT IT BETS TO BE NUTHIN BUT MICHAEL JACKSON FROM MORNIN TILL NIGHT &#8211; freshmen better come in and the first piece of sheet music they get better be &#8220;I Want You Back&#8221;!!</p>
<p>Seriously, there are enough songs between MJ and the Jackson 5 that a radio station wouldn&#39;t even repeat a song for 3 or 4 days!! Why aren&#39;t they recognizing!?!?! This is a prime opportunity to teach the babies about actual songs that mean some shit instead of this dreadful crap by the likes of Hurricane Chris!</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciate your two cents, blksista.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most folks, especially his fans were pretty intune with Michael&#039;s shortcomings.  One need only look at him to see he was troubled.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I object and loathe is immediately after Michael Jackson was pronoucned dead, folks like Orth jumped on his drugs and pedophilia charges.  That&#039;s not new.  I, for one, already knew about this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What gives Orth the creds to paint the idea that Michael Jackson dying the way he did was&quot;good&quot; the way he&#039;d want to die?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tim Russert wasn&#039;t a fucking saint by any stretch.  He had MSNBC and NBC chronies to elevate his ass. They touted his Catholisism and family values. We saw what they wanted us to see.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t read Vanity Fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate your two cents, blksista.</p>
<p>Most folks, especially his fans were pretty intune with Michael&#39;s shortcomings.  One need only look at him to see he was troubled.</p>
<p>What I object and loathe is immediately after Michael Jackson was pronoucned dead, folks like Orth jumped on his drugs and pedophilia charges.  That&#39;s not new.  I, for one, already knew about this.</p>
<p>What gives Orth the creds to paint the idea that Michael Jackson dying the way he did was&#8221;good&#8221; the way he&#39;d want to die?</p>
<p>Tim Russert wasn&#39;t a fucking saint by any stretch.  He had MSNBC and NBC chronies to elevate his ass. They touted his Catholisism and family values. We saw what they wanted us to see.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t read Vanity Fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he sold ALLLLLLLLLL them albums without:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a) deep discounting them so that folks would be induced purchase them&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;b) the record company buying up albums&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yep, this isht is what&#039;s going on with some of today&#039;s so-called &quot;top artists&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he sold ALLLLLLLLLL them albums without:</p>
<p>a) deep discounting them so that folks would be induced purchase them</p>
<p>b) the record company buying up albums</p>
<p>Yep, this isht is what&#39;s going on with some of today&#39;s so-called &#8220;top artists&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;well the song was offered to the Jacksons first&lt;br&gt;but they turned it down LOL&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah....so, it was like reverse chit&#039;lins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>well the song was offered to the Jacksons first<br />but they turned it down LOL</i></p>
<p>Ah&#8230;.so, it was like reverse chit&#39;lins?</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Webb, you, bringing it!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Keep it up bitch. Keep it up. Your son Luke&#039;s hook-ups may eventually dry-up.&quot;</description>
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<p>&#8220;Keep it up bitch. Keep it up. Your son Luke&#39;s hook-ups may eventually dry-up.&#8221;</p>
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