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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s find a new church &#8211; and, it&#8217;s not in the Black community</title>
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		<title>By: MsKitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsKitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But underlying it--Barack is not and has never been down with the least common denominator, nor has he been, no matter what he and Michelle were doing in Chicago, super-ensconced in bourgieworld. They remind me of the crunchy granola black yuppies living in an area here in DC (Maryland) called Takoma Park. Yes, they are aware, conscientious, active--but most of their pals are skiing, Birkenstock wearing white folk. Everyone&#039;s got money and banging jobs, but they are in their own orbit. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris - What&#039;s up with that type of commentary.  What exactly do you mean by crunchy granola black yuppies?  You said they are aware, conscientious and active but you have an issue with their financial status and jobs and with blacks creating friendships with whites especially the ones who wear Birkenstock.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Explain please.  Want to understand where this is coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But underlying it&#8211;Barack is not and has never been down with the least common denominator, nor has he been, no matter what he and Michelle were doing in Chicago, super-ensconced in bourgieworld. They remind me of the crunchy granola black yuppies living in an area here in DC (Maryland) called Takoma Park. Yes, they are aware, conscientious, active&#8211;but most of their pals are skiing, Birkenstock wearing white folk. Everyone&#39;s got money and banging jobs, but they are in their own orbit. &#8220;</p>
<p>Chris &#8211; What&#39;s up with that type of commentary.  What exactly do you mean by crunchy granola black yuppies?  You said they are aware, conscientious and active but you have an issue with their financial status and jobs and with blacks creating friendships with whites especially the ones who wear Birkenstock.</p>
<p>Explain please.  Want to understand where this is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could really care less. Attending Trinity UCC was a strategic move like everything they do. So whatevs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could really care less. Attending Trinity UCC was a strategic move like everything they do. So whatevs.</p>
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		<title>By: DinaLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>DinaLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are times when you just have to be practical, and this is one of them. Who wants their place of worship disrupted with Secret Service agents, lines of people who just want to ogle the president keeping crowding regular members out of church, paparazzi, madmen, and dorks clicking camera phones? C&#039;mon. It wouldn&#039;t be fair to a church. Another example of the intelligence of our President and FLOTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are times when you just have to be practical, and this is one of them. Who wants their place of worship disrupted with Secret Service agents, lines of people who just want to ogle the president keeping crowding regular members out of church, paparazzi, madmen, and dorks clicking camera phones? C&#39;mon. It wouldn&#39;t be fair to a church. Another example of the intelligence of our President and FLOTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: DinaLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>DinaLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are times when you just have to be practical, and this is one of them. Who wants their place of worship disrupted with Secret Service agents, lines of people who just want to ogle the president keeping crowding regular members out of church, paparazzi, madmen, and dorks clicking camera phones? C&#039;mon. It wouldn&#039;t be fair to a church. Another example of the intelligence of our President and FLOTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are times when you just have to be practical, and this is one of them. Who wants their place of worship disrupted with Secret Service agents, lines of people who just want to ogle the president keeping crowding regular members out of church, paparazzi, madmen, and dorks clicking camera phones? C&#39;mon. It wouldn&#39;t be fair to a church. Another example of the intelligence of our President and FLOTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredOfThePhonies</title>
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		<dc:creator>TiredOfThePhonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for them.   Most black churches and their ministers are about as useful as  a hot poker stuck in yor brain.   In the old days churches and ministers were involved in the community and motivated their flock to take care of the their families, their children, their neighborhoods and to become involved in the affairs of the community. This bunch, once they leave the confines of their churches, mega or small, just lock the doors and drive off in their fancy cars with a pocket full of pension cash to buy a new Rolex watch or a new airplane.   After all of that bumping and jumping, shouting and stomping, the congregations do on Sunday everyone just goes back to doing whatever it is that they do while the communities fall apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for them.   Most black churches and their ministers are about as useful as  a hot poker stuck in yor brain.   In the old days churches and ministers were involved in the community and motivated their flock to take care of the their families, their children, their neighborhoods and to become involved in the affairs of the community. This bunch, once they leave the confines of their churches, mega or small, just lock the doors and drive off in their fancy cars with a pocket full of pension cash to buy a new Rolex watch or a new airplane.   After all of that bumping and jumping, shouting and stomping, the congregations do on Sunday everyone just goes back to doing whatever it is that they do while the communities fall apart.</p>
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		<title>By: WordSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Now, I could say a great deal about this, but I won’t. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now when did stop you?  It&#039;s never stopped me.  ;))&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for where the Obamas worship; I could give a shit.  It&#039;s their decision.  However, I think whatever their decision, they&#039;ll get grief regardless - even if it is a &#039;black church&#039; because somehow or other, it won&#039;t be &quot;black enough&quot; or some other outrageous conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now, I could say a great deal about this, but I won’t. </i></p>
<p>Now when did stop you?  It&#39;s never stopped me.  ;))</p>
<p>As for where the Obamas worship; I could give a shit.  It&#39;s their decision.  However, I think whatever their decision, they&#39;ll get grief regardless &#8211; even if it is a &#39;black church&#39; because somehow or other, it won&#39;t be &#8220;black enough&#8221; or some other outrageous conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, djchefron! :-)</description>
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		<title>By: trusenses</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/obamas-find-a-new-church-and-its-not-in-the-black-community/comment-page-1/#comment-224939</link>
		<dc:creator>trusenses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090629/pl_politico/24323_1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090629/pl_po...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to this article, they are still looking for a church and Time Magazine is incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090629/pl_politico/24323_1" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090629/pl_po.." rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090629/pl_po..</a>.</p>
<p>According to this article, they are still looking for a church and Time Magazine is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: thefriendraiser</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/obamas-find-a-new-church-and-its-not-in-the-black-community/comment-page-1/#comment-224937</link>
		<dc:creator>thefriendraiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the WH says the story isn&#039;t true&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/29/evergreen-chapel-obama-ch_n_222131.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/29/evergr...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the WH says the story isn&#39;t true</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/29/evergreen-chapel-obama-ch_n_222131.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/29/evergr.." rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/29/evergr..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzikal203</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muzikal203</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is interesting: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/29/748078/-Obamas-New-Pastor:-First-we-get-the-military%2C-then-we-get-the-nation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/29/748078/...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is interesting: <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/29/748078/-Obamas-New-Pastor:-First-we-get-the-military%2C-then-we-get-the-nation" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/29/748078/.." rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/29/748078/..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Admiral_Komack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;wow..should this really be an issue?&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-NO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;wow..should this really be an issue?&#8221; </p>
<p>-NO.</p>
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		<title>By: danadevin74</title>
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		<dc:creator>danadevin74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou:)</p>
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		<title>By: djchefron</title>
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		<dc:creator>djchefron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you MJ fans here is a little mix for you&lt;br&gt;Tracklist&lt;br&gt;1.Never Can Say Goodbye (Acapella)&lt;br&gt;2.Off The Wall(E-Phil Edit)&lt;br&gt;3.Who Is It(Quentin Harris Mix)&lt;br&gt;4.Earth Song(Tony Loreto SS Mix)&lt;br&gt;5.Smooth Criminal(Quentin Harris Live Remix)&lt;br&gt;6.Thriller(Chus &amp; Ceballos Remix)&lt;br&gt;7.Workin Day &amp; Night&lt;br&gt;8.Lady In My Life(Timmey Regisford &amp;Quentin Harris Shelter Dub&lt;br&gt;9.Think Happy&lt;br&gt;10.Don&#039;t Stop&lt;br&gt;11.Forever Came Today&lt;br&gt;Link to the Mix&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sendspace.com/file/uomor3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sendspace.com/file/uomor3&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you MJ fans here is a little mix for you<br />Tracklist<br />1.Never Can Say Goodbye (Acapella)<br />2.Off The Wall(E-Phil Edit)<br />3.Who Is It(Quentin Harris Mix)<br />4.Earth Song(Tony Loreto SS Mix)<br />5.Smooth Criminal(Quentin Harris Live Remix)<br />6.Thriller(Chus &#038; Ceballos Remix)<br />7.Workin Day &#038; Night<br />8.Lady In My Life(Timmey Regisford &#038;Quentin Harris Shelter Dub<br />9.Think Happy<br />10.Don&#39;t Stop<br />11.Forever Came Today<br />Link to the Mix<br /><a href="http://www.sendspace.com/file/uomor3" rel="nofollow">http://www.sendspace.com/file/uomor3</a></p>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t say anything unless you won&#039;t to. All the posters should be over the age of 18 and can speak for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah<br />Don&#39;t say anything unless you won&#39;t to. All the posters should be over the age of 18 and can speak for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad he found a place to worship because the body of Christ is not about color nor denomination, as long as they are preaching Christ as Savior, he&#039;s good. I&#039;m getting a little sick of people of color believing that Pres. Obama, the pres. of all, has to be black in his walk, talk, and speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m glad he found a place to worship because the body of Christ is not about color nor denomination, as long as they are preaching Christ as Savior, he&#39;s good. I&#39;m getting a little sick of people of color believing that Pres. Obama, the pres. of all, has to be black in his walk, talk, and speech.</p>
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		<title>By: ruthdfw</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only disappointment as it relates to this discussion IF the TIME report were true and they say it is not:  they said choosing a church that would offer a good youth program for the girls is important.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So far they are incredibly level head kids and likely to remain that way. But a solid spiritual foundation would be important to helping keep them grounded. Especially if it was a part of their life before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only disappointment as it relates to this discussion IF the TIME report were true and they say it is not:  they said choosing a church that would offer a good youth program for the girls is important.</p>
<p>So far they are incredibly level head kids and likely to remain that way. But a solid spiritual foundation would be important to helping keep them grounded. Especially if it was a part of their life before.</p>
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		<title>By: TAG60</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAG60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow..should this really be an issue? This is a personal decision that should be made by him and his family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow..should this really be an issue? This is a personal decision that should be made by him and his family.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzikal203</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muzikal203</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the article earlier, and I just think it&#039;s pathetic that presidents have to go through this religious litmus test. I&#039;m not that comfortable with religion and &quot;spiritual guidance&quot; being looked to for a tool in deciding how to run the country. I understand that Obama is shaped by his religious beliefs and that&#039;s fine, but it&#039;s one thing to be shaped by it and another to look to it when deciding policy decisions. Part of me hopes they just DON&#039;T join a church, we just had a &quot;churchgoer&quot; in Bush and he fucked everything up. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as not going to a Black church because he doesn&#039;t want regular people to be pushed out, eventually people realize Obama is just a man. I saw him in two rallies during the campaign. The first time I was REALLY excited, the second time I realized he&#039;s just a man. Of course I did get to shake his hand at the second rally, but I still realized he&#039;s just a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the article earlier, and I just think it&#39;s pathetic that presidents have to go through this religious litmus test. I&#39;m not that comfortable with religion and &#8220;spiritual guidance&#8221; being looked to for a tool in deciding how to run the country. I understand that Obama is shaped by his religious beliefs and that&#39;s fine, but it&#39;s one thing to be shaped by it and another to look to it when deciding policy decisions. Part of me hopes they just DON&#39;T join a church, we just had a &#8220;churchgoer&#8221; in Bush and he fucked everything up. </p>
<p>As far as not going to a Black church because he doesn&#39;t want regular people to be pushed out, eventually people realize Obama is just a man. I saw him in two rallies during the campaign. The first time I was REALLY excited, the second time I realized he&#39;s just a man. Of course I did get to shake his hand at the second rally, but I still realized he&#39;s just a man.</p>
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		<title>By: RonnieB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonnieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With so many good comments, opinions and thoughts ... I prolly shoulda kept quiet my damn self. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so many good comments, opinions and thoughts &#8230; I prolly shoulda kept quiet my damn self. :-)</p>
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