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	<title>Comments on: Evening Open Thread</title>
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		<title>By: texascowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>texascowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel you on the children question and no I don&#039;t have any. I&#039;m well aware that not being a mother colors my view of things and I am thinking from the perspective of what I, a woman with no children, would have relative ease doing. But here&#039;s the thing, I don&#039;t think Jenny Sanford&#039;s sons would want her to stay with a man who doesn&#039;t love her. He has said so on national television. He has told the world and his sons that he doesn&#039;t love his wife and he loves another woman. It is one thing for a woman to forgive an affair if she trully believes that her husband has made a mistake, but still loves her. But it is quite another to not even have the illusion of any love left. Even if she could fool herself, she can&#039;t fool her children. Kids know when things aren&#039;t right between their parents. So the question is: two happy sperate parents or two miserable together parents? It seems to me like a lot of women stay with men they shouldn&#039;t &quot;because of the kids&quot; only to further damage themselves and their children as well. My parents have been married for 31 years. I love them both very much. Too much to have wanted them to spend 31 years miserable and un in love, when they could have had otherwise happy lives. Jenny Sanford seems like a kick ass chick to me. Kick ass enough to find a new happiness and be a good mother with or without the Governor in the same house. Hell, the kids might enjoy spending the summers in Argentina. I&#039;m just saying at this point divorce is not the worse outcome for Mrs. Sanford or her kids and that&#039;s a possiblity she should consider. Rash decisions should not be made when there are children involved and someone has to be a responsible adult. It&#039;s obvious Mrs. Sanford is the only real adult. But she does have the right to think about herself. A woman who takes care of herself and looks out for her own best interests can be a good mother. Maybe even a better one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel you on the children question and no I don&#39;t have any. I&#39;m well aware that not being a mother colors my view of things and I am thinking from the perspective of what I, a woman with no children, would have relative ease doing. But here&#39;s the thing, I don&#39;t think Jenny Sanford&#39;s sons would want her to stay with a man who doesn&#39;t love her. He has said so on national television. He has told the world and his sons that he doesn&#39;t love his wife and he loves another woman. It is one thing for a woman to forgive an affair if she trully believes that her husband has made a mistake, but still loves her. But it is quite another to not even have the illusion of any love left. Even if she could fool herself, she can&#39;t fool her children. Kids know when things aren&#39;t right between their parents. So the question is: two happy sperate parents or two miserable together parents? It seems to me like a lot of women stay with men they shouldn&#39;t &#8220;because of the kids&#8221; only to further damage themselves and their children as well. My parents have been married for 31 years. I love them both very much. Too much to have wanted them to spend 31 years miserable and un in love, when they could have had otherwise happy lives. Jenny Sanford seems like a kick ass chick to me. Kick ass enough to find a new happiness and be a good mother with or without the Governor in the same house. Hell, the kids might enjoy spending the summers in Argentina. I&#39;m just saying at this point divorce is not the worse outcome for Mrs. Sanford or her kids and that&#39;s a possiblity she should consider. Rash decisions should not be made when there are children involved and someone has to be a responsible adult. It&#39;s obvious Mrs. Sanford is the only real adult. But she does have the right to think about herself. A woman who takes care of herself and looks out for her own best interests can be a good mother. Maybe even a better one.</p>
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		<title>By: malletgirl02</title>
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		<dc:creator>malletgirl02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much was the British media being better than the US media. I read the article it it was very snide. There isn&#039;t much that is news worthy about Malia and Sasha anyway, they are little girls. The media should be happy with the access they get. President has given them more access to Malia and Sasha than they deserve the people at the Independent are assholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much was the British media being better than the US media. I read the article it it was very snide. There isn&#39;t much that is news worthy about Malia and Sasha anyway, they are little girls. The media should be happy with the access they get. President has given them more access to Malia and Sasha than they deserve the people at the Independent are assholes.</p>
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		<title>By: MoObama</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoObama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Lawdy, the prez can&#039;t go to Hawaii! That&#039;s for elitist.  Let him go to the Vineyard and be miserable, it will serve him right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Lawdy, the prez can&#39;t go to Hawaii! That&#39;s for elitist.  Let him go to the Vineyard and be miserable, it will serve him right.</p>
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		<title>By: MoObama</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoObama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this sacrilegious, what is her point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#39;t this sacrilegious, what is her point?</p>
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		<title>By: MoObama</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoObama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have no clue what happened, but the MSM has lost their sick minds talking about &quot;Wacko Jacko&quot; as they like to call him; not leaving out all the crazy Blacks that ever crossed his path, gave him a glass of water, or an aspirin.  I want to run this by you all and see what you come up with.  Liza Minnelli made a statement the day of Michael&#039;s death, it when something like this; &quot;We better celebrate now because when the autopsy is finished all hell is going to break loose.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have no clue what happened, but the MSM has lost their sick minds talking about &#8220;Wacko Jacko&#8221; as they like to call him; not leaving out all the crazy Blacks that ever crossed his path, gave him a glass of water, or an aspirin.  I want to run this by you all and see what you come up with.  Liza Minnelli made a statement the day of Michael&#39;s death, it when something like this; &#8220;We better celebrate now because when the autopsy is finished all hell is going to break loose.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That brings me to TEARS!!!! I&#039;m wiping away tears just like Faith Hill was! Damn...she is THE QUEEN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That brings me to TEARS!!!! I&#39;m wiping away tears just like Faith Hill was! Damn&#8230;she is THE QUEEN.</p>
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		<title>By: jelana</title>
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		<dc:creator>jelana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only saw it intermittently but when Ving Rhames walked onto the stage, his&lt;br&gt;segment was cut out.  They also cut out the young girls dancing to Lil Wayne&lt;br&gt;and Drake.  Likewise the monologue from Don Cornelius of Soul Train.  I&lt;br&gt;didn&#039;t see any of the earlier parts of the show&lt;br&gt;so this is all I can attest to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only saw it intermittently but when Ving Rhames walked onto the stage, his<br />segment was cut out.  They also cut out the young girls dancing to Lil Wayne<br />and Drake.  Likewise the monologue from Don Cornelius of Soul Train.  I<br />didn&#39;t see any of the earlier parts of the show<br />so this is all I can attest to.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear I&#039;m only flipping around when I see him....not there for long lengths of time. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear I&#39;m only flipping around when I see him&#8230;.not there for long lengths of time. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/evening-open-thread-26/comment-page-5/#comment-226617</link>
		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As close and they all are, I feel certain that this won&#039;t be their first visit. Just their first visit as &quot;royalty&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As close and they all are, I feel certain that this won&#39;t be their first visit. Just their first visit as &#8220;royalty&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/evening-open-thread-26/comment-page-5/#comment-226612</link>
		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you even bear to watch that idiot. Wasn&#039;t he the one that Whoopi called &quot;a lying pack of dog dodo&quot; on The View?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you even bear to watch that idiot. Wasn&#39;t he the one that Whoopi called &#8220;a lying pack of dog dodo&#8221; on The View?</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/evening-open-thread-26/comment-page-5/#comment-226606</link>
		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And especially since Michael never legally adopted the children.  It could have caused a real problem; but hopefully it doesn&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And especially since Michael never legally adopted the children.  It could have caused a real problem; but hopefully it doesn&#39;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/06/evening-open-thread-26/comment-page-5/#comment-226604</link>
		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the only reason this has been a topic is because when Michael did that interview, that terrible one with Bearshire; he stated that he was the biological father of the those children. That they were concieved the normal way. Don&#039;t you remember the man questioning him about the children not appearing to be the product of a mixed race couple.  That&#039;s the only reason that they have kept airing this. That is is the father, you are certainly right; but biologically had been in question since he lied  about that issue.  Not that I care, just explaining why the are making such a big deal of it. that&#039;s also why they show that his dermatologist is the possible spearm donor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the only reason this has been a topic is because when Michael did that interview, that terrible one with Bearshire; he stated that he was the biological father of the those children. That they were concieved the normal way. Don&#39;t you remember the man questioning him about the children not appearing to be the product of a mixed race couple.  That&#39;s the only reason that they have kept airing this. That is is the father, you are certainly right; but biologically had been in question since he lied  about that issue.  Not that I care, just explaining why the are making such a big deal of it. that&#39;s also why they show that his dermatologist is the possible spearm donor.</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
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		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like you have to be really looking for something to watch and have no way to rent a movie if you watch this.  Allowing their daughters on stage the other night with LiL Wayne showed me all I needed to know about these two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like you have to be really looking for something to watch and have no way to rent a movie if you watch this.  Allowing their daughters on stage the other night with LiL Wayne showed me all I needed to know about these two.</p>
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		<title>By: khrish</title>
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		<dc:creator>khrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the reason for the high ratings was because the public was lied to. They said they had changed their format to do a tribute to Michael Jackson and I saw very little that was done about Michael Jackson. I certainly thought they the show would include Usher, Chris Brown and Chris Tucker since the three of them always did such great takes on Michael.  That this was a disaster and they had the nerve to do a repeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the reason for the high ratings was because the public was lied to. They said they had changed their format to do a tribute to Michael Jackson and I saw very little that was done about Michael Jackson. I certainly thought they the show would include Usher, Chris Brown and Chris Tucker since the three of them always did such great takes on Michael.  That this was a disaster and they had the nerve to do a repeat.</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Tina &amp; Toya,” featuring T.I.’s baby’s mama Tiny and Lil Wayne’s ex Toya&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t think of a more awful concept for a show.  I&#039;m surprised it&#039;s not airing on VH1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Tina &#038; Toya,” featuring T.I.’s baby’s mama Tiny and Lil Wayne’s ex Toya</i></p>
<p>I can&#39;t think of a more awful concept for a show.  I&#39;m surprised it&#39;s not airing on VH1.</p>
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		<title>By: allheavens</title>
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		<dc:creator>allheavens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH MY GOD!!! Is this the outfit that everyone has been talking about, WTF? She looks like a deranged Tinkerbell.</description>
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		<title>By: APeach</title>
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		<dc:creator>APeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. And as I&#039;ve been telling folks--if Aretha Franklin could prepare &quot;Nessun Dorma&quot; in less than 30 minutes, surely BET could have put something together that was both pared down and classy in 3 days. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That would, however, require talent and professionalism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All those folks need to watch and learn: &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvJZ26shqc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvJZ26shqc&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. And as I&#39;ve been telling folks&#8211;if Aretha Franklin could prepare &#8220;Nessun Dorma&#8221; in less than 30 minutes, surely BET could have put something together that was both pared down and classy in 3 days. </p>
<p>That would, however, require talent and professionalism.</p>
<p>All those folks need to watch and learn: <br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvJZ26shqc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvJZ26shqc</a></p>
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		<title>By: APeach</title>
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		<dc:creator>APeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I showed the hubby this picture and he immediately said:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;So when is Beyonce giving back Madonna&#039;s dress?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I showed the hubby this picture and he immediately said:</p>
<p>&#8220;So when is Beyonce giving back Madonna&#39;s dress?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that quote by the writer of that trash bin article - cuz that&#039;s where it belongs was not simply a slam against Michelle but black women like her. Cuz Jennifer Hudson was thrown in there too. It was a slam against browner skinned black women. Any idiot would know the South Side of Chicago is huge - the size of many other cities in fact. The University of Chicago is there and includes many neighborhoods, some w/lower economic neighborhoods but mostly wealthier areas. But black people live there undoubtedly. If that was supposed to be a quote by an actual Vineyard resident and not the writer himself it was particularly ignorant as a so-called elite would be expected to know the makeup of one of the biggest cities in the country where some other of their &quot;kind&quot; reside. Which is why we can ascertain it was more than likely a comment by the writer and his skin shade racism and black woman disdain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that quote by the writer of that trash bin article &#8211; cuz that&#39;s where it belongs was not simply a slam against Michelle but black women like her. Cuz Jennifer Hudson was thrown in there too. It was a slam against browner skinned black women. Any idiot would know the South Side of Chicago is huge &#8211; the size of many other cities in fact. The University of Chicago is there and includes many neighborhoods, some w/lower economic neighborhoods but mostly wealthier areas. But black people live there undoubtedly. If that was supposed to be a quote by an actual Vineyard resident and not the writer himself it was particularly ignorant as a so-called elite would be expected to know the makeup of one of the biggest cities in the country where some other of their &#8220;kind&#8221; reside. Which is why we can ascertain it was more than likely a comment by the writer and his skin shade racism and black woman disdain.</p>
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		<title>By: itgurl_29</title>
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		<dc:creator>itgurl_29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the reason I see it as a possibility is because of his age. For a person who saw themselves as Peter Pan, 50 has got to be ancient. He hung around kids because they don&#039;t judge and they accepted him for who he was. But even children probably began to wonder why a father of three wanted to play video games and eat candy all day long.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I think the mutilation of his face may have left him deeply depressed. His most recent visage was downright monstrous. He looked like an alien at the press conference for the new concert tour. Imagine what he would have looked like ten years from now. Imagine having to wake up everyday and see what you did to your face. That alone could make you want to go to sleep and not wake up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whatever happened, I think it&#039;s wrong to sweep his severe depression under the rug. This man did not love life in his later years. It breaks your heart because he had such a light in him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the reason I see it as a possibility is because of his age. For a person who saw themselves as Peter Pan, 50 has got to be ancient. He hung around kids because they don&#39;t judge and they accepted him for who he was. But even children probably began to wonder why a father of three wanted to play video games and eat candy all day long.</p>
<p>And I think the mutilation of his face may have left him deeply depressed. His most recent visage was downright monstrous. He looked like an alien at the press conference for the new concert tour. Imagine what he would have looked like ten years from now. Imagine having to wake up everyday and see what you did to your face. That alone could make you want to go to sleep and not wake up.</p>
<p>Whatever happened, I think it&#39;s wrong to sweep his severe depression under the rug. This man did not love life in his later years. It breaks your heart because he had such a light in him.</p>
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