A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics
Hey — do you live in Chicago? Let us know more about what’s up there with the schools in the comments — this is the first I’m hearing about it and I plan to ask more questions while in Chicago for Blogging While Brown. Thanks, Jill
From Black Agenda Report:
In May, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan declared the Obama administration’s intent to close and “turn around” 5,000 “underperforming” public schools in poorer neighborhoods across the country. Duncan’s last job was CEO of Chicago’s public schools where he shut down dozens of neighborhood schools, practically all in lower income areas, and dismissed thousands of committed and experienced teachers, the vast majority of them African American women.
When the Chicago Teachers Union made no effort to reach out to parents, students or their communities, refused to organize teachers to oppose the wave of school shutdowns and privatizations, teachers organized what they call CORE, the Coalition of Rank & File Educators. CORE has now filed suit against the Chicago Board of Education, charging that the mass dismissal of hundreds of mostly black veteran teachers and their replacement with uncertified and generally underqualified white teachers is racially discriminatory.
“We looked at the number of teachers who lost their jobs in these ’school turnarounds,’” CORE research director Carol Caref told BAR, “and we looked at the number of African American teachers who were employed in those same schools or in the charter schools which replaced them and there was a huge discrepancy which couldn’t be accounted for by chance. The fired teachers are disproportionately African American, and the newly hired teachers are not.”
“Even if it’s inadvertently discriminatory, it’s still discriminatory because the majority of the teachers wiped out in these turnarounds are African American,” offered Chicago teacher Wanda Evans. The fired veteran teachers, CORE also maintains, are being replaced by a much younger, much whiter and much less experienced corps of instructors graduated from a handful of accelerated programs funded by Boeing, the Bill and Melinda Gates, Bradley, Walton Family, Rockerfeller and other foundations, and favored by City Hall and the Commercial Club. “The new teachers are paid half or less what experienced teachers with advanced degrees were making.”
“The fired veteran teachers are being replaced by a much younger, much whiter and much less experienced corps of instructors.”
They are forced to work longer hours. They are reluctant to stand up for themselves or their students and tend to be fearful of participating in union and other activities. A high percentage of them burn out or are not asked to stick around after their first year,” according to Jackson Potter, another CORE teacher.
“The young, mostly white replacement teachers are de-skilled temp workers, teaching test-preparation skills. They are neither connected nor committed to the communities their students come from,” added Evans.
The prospect that Chicago’s disastrous educational policies are about to go national is frightening, say the teachers BAR talked to. “We all hoped that Obama would not fall for this okie-doke of high-stakes testing, No Child Left Behind, of demonizing teachers and dismantling public education,” Ms. Evans continued. “But he (Arne Duncan) was the president’s basketball buddy. It was a slap in the face locally to even have a CEO rather than an educator in charge of our schools here, and a slap in the face for us all nationally to have such a terribly unqualified person as Secretary of Education. Mr. Duncan has not taught in any classroom a single hour, and is in fact not qualified to teach anyplace.”
AM2k9
June 19th, 2009 at 7:41 am
“In May, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan declared the Obama administration’s intent to close and “turn around” 5,000 “underperforming” public schools in poorer neighborhoods across the country.”—–It's called the Shock Doctrine…..Naomi Klein wrote a long book on it. We shouldnt be surprised by this move. In fact, we were actually warned that mr. Duncan's credentials amounted to two facts: 1-He's Obama's Hoops buddy and 2-He has a snack for closing schools in Black and Brown neighborhoods.
RonnieB
June 19th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Any evidence proving that the schools that were shut down were producing high-achieving students? What were those students' academic trajectories? What were the graduation rates? If the schools were under-performing, why were they?
See, when it comes to the state of Black education, it speaks for itself. If those “experienced” and “highly-qualified” educators are who they say they are, then there should have been few or no under-performing schools. That there were, leads me to assume that (a) they are; and (b) they've been under-performing for quite a long time.
Bottom line: our educators and the parents weren't taking care of business they way they should. And I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them.
RobM
June 19th, 2009 at 8:15 am
rikyrah has been against this guy from Jump Street. her reasons were pretty much the same.
rikyrah
June 19th, 2009 at 8:19 am
I told you about him from the beginning. I told you how he wouldn't even give resources to working Black schools. And, I also told you that nobody Black with his lack of resume would EVER be considered for anything.
rikyrah
June 19th, 2009 at 8:26 am
read the Black Agenda Report article. I had to chuckle as they said someone named Richard Daley had ' ruled' Chicago for 40 of the past 55 years.
I don't call him King Richard Daley II for nothing.
RobM
June 19th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Schools “underperform” for a variety of reasons. To me the situation calls for triage of the system. First, you have to decide that school is about school. It can't be for babysitting. So those preying on the students have to go and can't return. Two, parents or guardians have to show up at the school to collect report cards and receive assessments. Three, to protect those students whom come to school for school the police have to flood the immediate area(foot,bike,segway patrols) to see the kids get home safe. Four, the learning challenged go to seperate schools. Five funding has to reflect the needs of the students and resources for the teachers and cannot be based on a per pupil basis.(the arguements that Philadlephia for example receives so much money is not a reflection of what is spent on a pupil as much as it is a reflection of what it costs to run the system period; and don't think I don't know about political crap and corruption in the system)
DSLunlimited
June 19th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Ronnie you are 100% correct! I don't hold any brief for educators (of any color or gender) who don't have the best interest of our black students (and all students for that matter) in mind.
No more half steppin' with the reform that is needed in the school system. The paramount concern should be the welfare and benefit of the student body.
Let's not get it swisted, if these educators fall short of the peformance that is needed to produce an educated student, then they shouldn't keep their jobs.
Alexander2
June 19th, 2009 at 9:20 am
I defer to the opinions of rikyrah and others who know much more about this situation. That said, I take exception to the headline. CORE is suing the Chicago Board of Education, not the Obama Administration for its School “Turnaround” plan.
Education Wed Jun 10 2009
(via GabersBlock.com)
CORE Files Discrimination Charges Against Board of Education
The Caucus of Rank and File Educators has filed charges against the Chicago Board of Education under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, claiming that the “turnaround” policy of the Renaissance 2010 initiative has amounted to discrimination against African-American teachers in the Chicago Public Schools. According to a CORE release, there are 2,000 fewer African-American teachers in CPS today than there were at the beginning of the Renaissance/Turnaround process in 2002.
Town
June 19th, 2009 at 10:10 am
I know my parents breathed down my neck, my brother's neck and the teachers/administrators' necks.
I know my gramma would call her connections at the School Board/Central Office to get the lowdown on what was going on at our school, when report cards/progress reports were due and what we were supposed to be doing.
I know my brother breathes down his daughters' and her teacher's necks.
Heck, I call up my niece's school, check the website and the teacher's homework website daily. She's going to middle school next year; I've already got the school website bookmarked to my favorites and the summer reading list will be in full effect.
We can't depend on teachers to do everything…most of the responsibility falls on the parents and the student.
Sepia
June 19th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
In the BAR article it says that CORE is suing the Chicago Board of Ed, so why would they bring Obama's administration into it.
This part of the article is….interesting:
The prospect that Chicago’s disastrous educational policies are about to go national is frightening, say the teachers BAR talked to. “We all hoped that Obama would not fall for this okie-doke of high-stakes testing, No Child Left Behind, of demonizing teachers and dismantling public education,” Ms. Evans continued. “But he (Arne Duncan) was the president’s basketball buddy. It was a slap in the face locally to even have a CEO rather than an educator in charge of our schools here, and a slap in the face for us all nationally to have such a terribly unqualified person as Secretary of Education. Mr. Duncan has not taught in any classroom a single hour, and is in fact not qualified to teach anyplace.”
Seeing as though BAR has a misleading headline, I'd like to know what BAR told the teachers that they talked to and what questions they asked?
rikyrah
June 19th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP!!
Dailyfare
June 19th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
What if the fired teachers sucked? Just asking. I mean, is it more important that they're black or that they're good?
There are plenty of kids who want to learn and do well in Chicago. However – the schools are also filled with kids who are not interested in their own education, either because they have no support at home or other factors.
My parents expected and required me to get an education. Too many of these kids have no one to expect or demand anything from them. And, frankly, until that fundamental challenge is addressed in these communities, nothing will change.
Simon_DC
June 19th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
As a former (5-year) teacher in schools serving only Black and Hispanic students:
There's only one question that matters about schools. Are the children learning? In a little more depth: Are the children — regardless of race, family income, parental involvement, any kind of background at all — learning so that they can go to (and graduate from) college if they choose, get good-paying and meaningful jobs, participate productively in democratic citizenship?
If yes, it doesn't matter whether their superintendant, or the secretary of education, has ever taught. If no, it doesn't matter if the teachers who are failing them are Black, White, or Green. All children can learn to high standards, no matter the preparation or family background they came in with (see: Harlem Children's Zone, KIPP).
I had students who, before they came to my school, had teachers who stopped teaching in April and showed movies the rest of the year. I had students who had teachers who showed movies ALL year. I had students who didn't even have an English teacher all year. Eighty percent of my students entered 6th grade at least two grades below grade level.
Schools exist to serve the students, not the teachers.
Before criticizing the shut-down of these “underperforming” public schools — go spend some time in one. And think about whether you'd want a child of yours to be a student there.
Miranda
June 19th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
We have teachers that spend part of their mornings combing hair, taking kids to the restrooms and cleaning them up, trying to find hungry kids something to EAT since they've had no breakfast (what happened to the free breakfast programs that used to exist?)..trying to wake kids up who stayed up all night….80% (and I'm being generous) of the problems with public schools are the parents.
CPL
June 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
For Real. When Obama announced Duncan as his pick for education, the loudest scream you heard on this board was Rikyrah's, followed by Bruce Dixon at Black Agenda Report.
I already told people on this board that who Obama put in key positions would indicate how his administration was going to operate. He has lackeys in Treasury, Defense and Education, and a worm over at Agriculture – and the results are:
Chicago having to sue for discrimination among the treatment of its school system and its teachers;
The Black Farmers being screwed over;
No Universal healthcare for all American citizens;
Continuing warmongering.
We get the government we deserve if we don't raise hell about how Mr. O's doing his job. And I don't want to hear anymore “he just got in office” BS – we can only sing that tune for so long until the brotha has to put up or shut up.
And we're sobering up off the O-Aid faster than he realizes.
Val
June 19th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
“Four, the learning challenged go to seperate schools.”
Please clarify because I am sure I misunderstood your statement when I interpreted that you are saying any child with a learning disability or any learning challenges should be reassigned to . . . . where exactly????
“Five funding has to reflect the needs of the students and resources for the teachers and cannot be based on a per pupil basis.”
Funding by student/teacher needs is not feasible. It is not possible for the state to fund based on the needs of students and teacher resource as that is subject to interpretation. Who exactly would decide just how much funding is needed to meet those needs by individual? The State may feel $XXXX.00 should be allocated, the principal could say $YYYY.00, the teacher $ZZZZZZ.00 and a parent $UUUUU.00. Also, more money does not necessarily mean a student is guaranteed a better education.
“Two, parents or guardians have to show up at the school to collect report cards and receive assessments.” Not sure how that would make any substantial difference as assessments and report cards are done once a quarter. A parent should be involved consistently and can schedule meetings with teachers at any time during the school year.
“First, you have to decide that school is about school. It can't be for babysitting. So those preying on the students have to go and can't return.”
Not sure what the second statement means. Pls clarify.
Val
June 19th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
doesn't matter. If the school is underperforming and there has been an ongoing effort to provide support to students, parents and the teachers and they are STILL failing. . . . then by all means shut it down and stop wasting tax payers money.
Val
June 19th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
“What if the fired teachers sucked? Just asking. I mean, is it more important that they're black or that they're good?”
Unfortunately it seems to me black is more important than being good.
Val
June 19th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
“The Black Farmers being screwed over;” — Were they being screwed over the day of Obama's inauguration or was this something that was ongoing for years and my understanding is that there was a settlement that resolved this case or did I miss something? http://aaenvironment.blogspot.com/2009/05/presi...
http://www.blackenterprise.com/business/busines...
“No Universal healthcare for all American citizens”; I am sure you haven't missed all the debates on healthcare over the last few weeks. As you know ALL Americans don't want universal healthcare. Republicans and some Dems are fighting against it. The President has done his part now it is up to us to do ours. He can't just pull legislation out of his ass and sign it.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/daschl...
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/indust...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/4782...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/health_care/
“Continuing warmongering”. Riiiggghhttt. We have two major wars that have been ongoing for years and sure we can always just pack up our troops, go home with no planning and walk out of Iraq today and also ignore the threat that still exists in Afghanistan. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Rema...
“And I don't want to hear anymore “he just got in office” BS – we can only sing that tune for so long until the brotha has to put up or shut up” BS to you. Even though you don't want to hear it anymore he has been in office for 5 months. What has he accomplished CPL? I know I haven't accomplished 1/10th as much as he has. What have you accomplished over the last 5 months?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/
President Obama did not claim to be anything except who he is. He told everyone outright what he do and what he wants to will accomplish. We voted for him anyway. Now the meme is that he should have personally resolved all the problems of the US — economy, war, healthcare, education, Darfur, environmental issue, repeal DOMA, DADT etc. all by himself and solutions should be tailored to our individual requirements. We want our President to ignore Congress and other bodies of government as long as he does what we want him to do. Which reminds me. . . maybe I need to call the President and demand he contact the McDonalds who gave me a Big Mac instead of the Quarter Pounder that I ordered.
Anyone who is “sobering up” on Obama after 5 months while recognizing we have BIG complex problems to solve needs to grow up.
Val
June 19th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
“The Black Farmers being screwed over;” — Were they being screwed over the day of Obama's inauguration or was this something that was ongoing for years and my understanding is that there was a settlement that resolved this case or did I miss something? http://aaenvironment.blogspot.com/2009/05/presi...
http://www.blackenterprise.com/business/busines...
“No Universal healthcare for all American citizens”; I am sure you haven't missed all the debates on healthcare over the last few weeks. As you know ALL Americans don't want universal healthcare. Republicans and some Dems are fighting against it. The President has done his part now it is up to us to do ours. He can't just pull legislation out of his ass and sign it.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/daschl...
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/indust...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/4782...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/health_care/
“Continuing warmongering”. Riiiggghhttt. We have two major wars that have been ongoing for years and sure we can always just pack up our troops, go home with no planning and walk out of Iraq today and also ignore the threat that still exists in Afghanistan. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Rema...
“And I don't want to hear anymore “he just got in office” BS – we can only sing that tune for so long until the brotha has to put up or shut up” BS to you. Even though you don't want to hear it anymore he has been in office for 5 months. What has he accomplished CPL? I know I haven't accomplished 1/10th as much as he has. What have you accomplished over the last 5 months?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/
President Obama did not claim to be anything except who he is. He told everyone outright what he do and what he wants to will accomplish. We voted for him anyway. Now the meme is that he should have personally resolved all the problems of the US — economy, war, healthcare, education, Darfur, environmental issue, repeal DOMA, DADT etc. all by himself and solutions should be tailored to our individual requirements and we know there is no need to involve Congress or other bodies of government. Shoot, maybe I need to call the President and demand he contact the McDonalds who gave me a Big Mac instead of the Quarter Pounder that I ordered.
Anyone who is “sobering up” on Obama after 5 months while recognizing we have BIG complex problems to solve needs to grow up.
Val
June 19th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
“The Black Farmers being screwed over;” — Were they being screwed over the day of Obama's inauguration or was this something that was ongoing for years and my understanding is that there was a settlement that resolved this case or did I miss something? http://aaenvironment.blogspot.com/2009/05/presi...
http://www.blackenterprise.com/business/busines...
“No Universal healthcare for all American citizens”; I am sure you haven't missed all the debates on healthcare over the last few weeks. As you know ALL Americans don't want universal healthcare. Republicans and some Dems are fighting against it. The President has done his part now it is up to us to do ours. He can't just pull legislation out of his ass and sign it.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/daschl...
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/indust...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/4782...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/health_care/
“Continuing warmongering”. Riiiggghhttt. We have two major wars that have been ongoing for years and sure we can always just pack up our troops, go home with no planning and walk out of Iraq today and also ignore the threat that still exists in Afghanistan. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Rema...
“And I don't want to hear anymore “he just got in office” BS – we can only sing that tune for so long until the brotha has to put up or shut up” BS to you. Even though you don't want to hear it anymore he has been in office for 5 months. What has he accomplished CPL? I know I haven't accomplished 1/10th as much as he has. What have you accomplished over the last 5 months?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/
President Obama did not claim to be anything except who he is. He told everyone outright what he do and what he wants to will accomplish. We voted for him anyway. Now the meme is that he should have personally resolved all the problems of the US — economy, war, healthcare, education, Darfur, environmental issue, repeal DOMA, DADT etc. all by himself and solutions should be tailored to our individual requirements and we know there is no need to involve Congress or other bodies of government. Shoot, maybe I need to call the President and demand he contact the McDonalds who gave me a Big Mac instead of the Quarter Pounder that I ordered.
Anyone who is “sobering up” on Obama after 5 months while recognizing we have BIG complex problems to solve needs to grow up.
mypov123
June 19th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I hate to be a cynic, but I honestly do not believe that Obama's education policies are going to dramatically transform the education system in this country (particularly in inner city areas). That's the main reason why I believe that the school vouchers program should continue.
mypov123
June 19th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
It's truly sad that many teachers have to be parents to their students on top of being their teacher. My aunt is an elementary school teacher in Baltimore, and she always talks about having to bring in bagels and orange juice for her students who don't receive anything for breakfast at home.
AM2k9
June 20th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Val, they've been underfunding these schools (mostly in Blacks and Latino areas) since time immemorial and then, when they dont perform on par with the [mostly white] suburban schools, they want to shut them down 'cause “they are wasting tax payers money” [just stop by your local libraries and pick up any book by Jonathan Kozol--though I'd highly recommend 'The Shame of the Nation: The Restoration of Apartheid Schooling in America', and 'Savage Inequalities: Children in America's Schools'--]. I say give these schools the same amount of funding as they do to suburban schools repeatedly, for a number of years and let's see what happens. Believe me, as someone who went to school in an “underperforming” school in the Bronx, I've come to see that money makes a whole lot of difference in someone's education. It makes a difference when daddy is able to hire a tutor to teach math little Johnny, while the parents of Jameel (or Jose for that matter) can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads. It makes a ton of difference.
brucedixon
June 20th, 2009 at 5:44 am
What makes you assume that the cause of hundreds of black teachers being fired and replaced by younger and whiter, less qualified and less experienced newbies was because the black teachers “sucked”?
That “blame the teacher” instinct is nothing but corporate propaganda by the corporate led forces in our society who want to privatize education. Think about Rod Paige, former Houston schools superintendent and Bush 2 Secretary of Education who labeled teachers unions “terrorist”. If that's where you start from, you will never be part of any solution to the problems of education.
Miranda
June 20th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Not true. If you don't start with the parents there can't be a solution.
brucedixon
June 20th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I have never argued, CORE has never contended, and the article does not indicate that there can ever be a solution to the crisis of education without parents at the table. The rhetoric of “we have to 'start' with parents” is, however another piece of demagogic misdirection, same as the notion that we must “start” by firing all the teachers in sight.
Fundamentally reforming an institution, like public education does not “start” with parents. It starts with all of us re-dreaming the educational mission and re-imagining how it is accomplished. Right now, schools of education don't even teach teachers or administrators how to work with parents, and for generations school systems have treated parents, especially poor parents like ignorant cattle or worse.
Back in the eighties when Harold Washington was mayor of Chicago we put through a piece of fundamental reform — elected councils of parents for each and every public school with veto power over the contracts of principals and veto power over a small portion of local school budgets. The political bad guys in Chicago have tried to game that system wherever they could by installing Daley precinct captains in the councils, but in dozens of Chicago neighborhoods, independent and knowledgeable parents, even in poor neighborhoods, have been aboe to work constructively with teachers and the rest of the community in selecting good principals, funding good programs, and the rest.
It was beyond the scope of the article to do more than a single sentence in mention of it, but just as the corporate-inspired advocates of charters, privatization and “turnarounds” detest organized teachers, they don't like input from organized parents either. One of the motives that CORE teachers cite for the turnarounds is City Hall wanting to eliminate the elected parent councils.
The meme about it “starting” with parents is a destructive one because it tries to blame the crisis of education on the individual behaviors of parents and takes no account of social factors which affect millions of parents at a time. For example, employed parents are likely to be working ten or twenty or more hours per week than they did a generation ago, leaving them with less time to oversee homework, let alone to visit schools and take an active part in what happens inside the school building. Public transit cuts and suburbanization mean commutes are longer too, forcing more parents into situations where children are unsupervised for more and more hours during the week.
We do not see the media informing parents of how schools work either. I'll wager you that many parents in Chicago, a generation after the school council laws have been in effect, don't know what they are or how they function. None of the powerful interests in the city, from the corporate media to the public school administration which is run by City Hall want to inform them.
Finally, it says something that the same City Hall crew which have run the schools for a generation are the ones advancing the claim that it needs to be “reformed” with charters, militarization, and “turnarounds”.
Miranda
June 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Yeah ok…and both my parents who taught for a combined 65 years and get called every other day to substitute in the county in which they reside both say the same thing….its the parents more than anything else that's holding our children back….so please don't try and fool me with the strange and idiotic statement “the meme about it starting with the parents is a destructive one”…that's the most ridiculous, DESTRUCTIVE statement I've read to date about the educational crisis in our communities.
brucedixon
June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Uhhh, right. Blacking parents for the crises of a multibillion dollar educational establishment in which all kinds of parties like corporations and the foundations and politicians they've bought and paid for have more decision making power and input is just plain silly. As silly as blaming teachers, who are also not listened to either. Privatizing corporations, their think tanks and bought & paid for politicians are savaging public education, not powerless parents.
Blaming the powerless for the destruction wrought by the elite IS destructive of the ability even to envision change, let alone enact it.
Miranda
June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Yeah, I'm sure it was really just tricky editing in the documentary “Hard Times at Douglass High” where you had parents that didn't even know what grade their child was even in……and I'm sure my friends that teach are just exaggerating about the number of students that show up each and everyday that raise havoc simply because that's what they raise at home. You want to give parents a pass, go right ahead, but all you're doing is speaking an empty hollow excuse. No amount of money in the world will supplant parents engaged in the education of their children. Your rhetoric is more dangerous than anything Arne Duncan can dream up.
mypov123
June 20th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Has anyone read this article from the NYT ? :
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/education/02e...
Apparently “turnaround” programs don't have a very good track record in business or in education.
An excerpt:
…”Still, it remains unclear whether the changes will sharply raise student achievement. Eighteen months ago, Bryan Hassel, a Harvard-trained education consultant, reviewed conditions in half a dozen Chicago schools that had been turned around.
“I was favorably impressed with some of the schools, and not with others,” Mr. Hassel said. “It was a mixed picture.”
In the corporate world, Mr. Hassel said, turnaround efforts transform failing businesses only about 25 percent to 30 percent of the time.
“A lot of these school turnarounds are going to fail because the work is so difficult,” Mr. Hassel said. “But as a nation, we’ll never have the capacity to do this work successfully until we make the commitment.”
mypov123
June 20th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Parental engagement DOES make a difference. If parents show that they care, then the children will be more likely to care about getting an education.
brucedixon
June 20th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
The HBO documentary will not air until June 23, and since the Wire ended I have not renewed my HBO. But films cost a lot of money. It will be interesting to see, when the credits do roll, where the funding came from — if it came from some of the corporations and foundations like Bradley, Walton Family and the other interests who have spared no expense to propagate the memes that failing schools need to be privatized, and parents and teachers, whom nobody in power listens to anyway, are the villains.
Well see.
brucedixon
June 20th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Oh, and if you read the WHOLE article, not just the first half posted above, you will see that CORE makes a point of involving parents too. They believe that organized parents have a lot to contribute to the educational process, that they are among the primary stakeholders.
Miranda
June 21st, 2009 at 6:54 am
The documentary aired LAST June. Clips are up on dailymotion.com right now. Oh well, I guess you just “missed it” when it premiered. So many of the “concerned” did. shocker.
brucedixon
June 21st, 2009 at 8:31 am
Whatever. Painting black teachers, including some of the award winning
teahcers involved in CORE, and depicting black parents as ignorant savages
will always get your projects funded, and will get you regarded as an expert
on education. Some things never change.
Miranda
June 21st, 2009 at 8:59 am
Who said anything about painting black teachers as presumably incompetent other than you? Education begins at home and unless that's addressed first and foremost, the rest is for naught….but please keep up the “its the man only the man that's keeping us down” tune going. There's a market for that and like I said earlier…you gotta eat.
Sepia
June 21st, 2009 at 11:01 am
I read the article and I didn't think it painted the turnaround plan as a negative. What I got from the article is that a turnaround plan is difficult to implement but it's not impossible. It entails hard work and cooperation of the school leadership AND the parents. For example, the Orr school that's mentioned in the piece is improving because EVERYONE is involved. From the article:
“… Mr. Poole recruited a new instructional staff that included some strong teachers at Orr who had reapplied for their jobs.
After the three small schools at Orr closed last June, it got new science laboratories, and Mr. Poole organized teachers to work in teams and scheduled regular quizzes to help identify concepts that students had not yet mastered. Instructional coaches help teachers use the data.
Orr’s school culture got an overhaul, too. Students wear black and gold uniforms. Parents participate in hallway patrols. Every adult, including cooks, meets regularly with 12 students to track academic progress.
Orr’s turnaround will cost about $6 million over five years. Nine months after it reopened, there has been a sea change in neighborhood attitudes. After Mr. Poole invited him to tour the school, Mr. Walker became a convert.
“They’re the best leadership team that’s been in the school in the last 12 to 15 years,” Mr. Walker said.”
I think it's worth a shot because what's in place right now isn't working.
mypov123
June 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Right, but that's just ONE school. You're talking about implementing this program throughout the country. A statement such as:
“A lot of these school turnarounds are going to fail because the work is so difficult,” Mr. Hassel said.
That doesn't give me a lot of confidence that this will work. For one thing, can they get parents across the country to be as involved and committed to what's going on in their child's schools as the parents at Orr? Honestly, I doubt it.
Sepia
June 21st, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I don't think it's fair to dismiss a new idea based on ONE person's opinion, especially when said opinion is a complaint about hard work. Changing the status quo is never easy.
And if the parents won't get it together and work hard to improve their children's futures, then that's their fault, not those who are trying this turnaround program. It's high time that folks get up off their ass and work instead of sitting back, waiting for others to solve their problems.
RobM
June 21st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Sorry about being sloppy on special education. I want those w/ “true” educational learning problems to go to a school that meets their needs(downs syndrome). I don't want every boy, for example, labeled dyslexic or hyeractive and carted off the hospital for a regime of drugs.
I am trying to account for the fact that physical plant in some places is so far behind it can not support the teaching of many subjects; science laboratories, gyms, art and music programs. Nor can schools be to large.
Here I am referring to consoldiated schools or urban schools w/ high school populations of over 2500 to 3000 students. Part of an education is the non academic subjects i.e. band, sports teams, debate teams etc.
To report cards and assessments many systems do not even require parents to participate. I want to make it mandatory.
Schools, especially high schools are dominated by gangs. they have to go. i have no problem flooding the transportation routes to and from a school w/ police to keep them away from the students whom are trying to learn.
Val
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 am
“What makes you assume that the cause of hundreds of black teachers being fired and replaced by younger and whiter, less qualified and less experienced newbies was because the black teachers “sucked”?
Where did I make that assumption? Oh yea . . . I didn't.
But I see that Miranda responded to you the same way I would have. and she is exactly right in her statement that without ACTIVE parent involvement it is a waste of time and there WILL BE NO solution.
Val
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:56 am
thnx RobM. You know this is my favorite topic.
thanks for clarifying.
brucedixon
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
Here are the last two paragraphs of the article, which you seem not to have
read.
*“If I could get a few minutes of the president's time,” Carol Caref told
us, “I'd tell him that public education and quality neighborhood public
schools are the foundations of stable, livable communities. Turning schools
into test-prep centers doesn't improve the quality of education. Neither
does repeating the corporate propaganda about our schools being 'dropout
factories,' as Arne Duncan does. What works are resources, stability, parent
and community involvement and smaller class sizes. Schools in wealthier
neighborhoods have all these things. Children and families everywhere
deserve them.”*
* *
*Effective teaching, as one CORE teacher put it, is a performance art. You
need commitment, connection and experience to pull it off, not hysteria,
insecurity, mass firings and more tests. Somebody, they say, needs to tell
President Obama.*
Now exactly what parts of that do you have a problem with?
Val
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
I am going to choose to believe that your obnoxious tone is not intentional.
Regarding your last statement– I have no problem with Carol Caref's opinion because everyone is entitled to one and because sharing an opinion does not mean it is correct.
My turn — Are you a teacher brucedixon? Do you actively volunteer in the schools or in your community with kids with issues described in your article?