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EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP!!

MSM MEME: Oh NO! The HONEYMOON IS OVER FOR OBAMBA!!!!

Those "Independent" Americans and Gay folks are NUR-VOUS!!!!!

'FDA has a lot on its plate' as new chief takes over

By Rita Rubin, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Margaret Hamburg figured she'd follow her parents' example and pursue a career in academic medicine, perhaps as an endocrinologist.
"I'd never planned a career as a public health official," Hamburg, who was recently confirmed as the second woman to helm the Food and Drug Administration, said Tuesday in an interview with USA TODAY in the agency's Capitol Hill office.


YOUR QUESTIONS: What would you ask the FDA chief?
FDA: Zicam nasal spray can cause loss of smell

But she changed her mind when, as an internal medicine resident in New York in the early 1980s, she began caring for patients with the condition that would come to be called AIDS. She wanted to understand how to translate medical discoveries into patient care.

A quarter-century later, Hamburg, 53, leads the federal agency that arguably has the biggest impact on the public's health.

As she and Joshua Sharfstein, principal deputy commissioner at the FDA, noted last week in The New England Journal of Medicine, the agency oversees more than $2 trillion in medical products, food and other consumer goods. And just last week, Congress overwhelmingly voted to add tobacco products to the list. As Hamburg says, "the FDA has a lot on its plate already."

Adding to the agency's workload is the fact that many of the products it regulates are manufactured in other countries. "It represents a tremendous challenge," Hamburg says, adding that the FDA must step up as a leader on the global scene.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-06-16-...

News Alert
6:16 PM EDT Wednesday, June 17, 2009
President Obama Extends Federal Benefits
Executive memo gives partners, including same-sex partners, of federal employees access to some benefits.

For more information, visit washingtonpost.com

DRUG ALERT** ZICAM SPRAY

FDA: Zicam spray for colds can cause loss of smell

WASHINGTON (AP) — Consumers should stop using Zicam Cold Remedy nasal gel and related products because they can permanently damage the sense of smell, federal health regulators said Tuesday.
The over-the-counter products contain zinc, an ingredient scientists say may damage nerves in the nose needed for smell. The other products affected by the Food and Drug Administration's announcement are adult and kid-size Zicam Cold Remedy Nasal Swabs.

The FDA says about 130 consumers have reported a loss of smell after using Matrixx Initiatives' Zicam products since 1999. Shares of the Scottsdale, Ariz.-based company plunged to a 52-week low after the FDA announcement, losing more than half their value.

"Loss of the sense of smell is potentially life threatening and may be permanent," said Dr. Charles Lee, of FDA's compliance division. "People without the sense of smell may not be able to detect dangerous life situations, such as gas leaks or something burning in the house."

Matrixx defended the safety of its products, but said late Tuesday it will withdraw Zicam Cold Remedy Swabs and Zicam Cold Remedy Gel from the market.

The FDA said Zicam Cold Remedy was never formally approved because it is part of a small group of remedies that are not required to undergo federal review before launching. Known as homeopathic products, the formulations often contain herbs, minerals and flowers.

A warning letter issued to Matrixx on Tuesday asked the company to stop marketing its zinc-based products, but the agency did not issue a formal recall. Instead, regulators said Matrixx would have to submit safety and effectiveness data on the drug.

There is more.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-06-16-...

I'm in love..... lust is probably more like it.

I watched Rachel Maddow interview their bureau chief in Tehran last night, and saw him again this morning.

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/ NOT the guy with the beard!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/3139062...

(I'm not sure exactly why, but it's OK.)

NOT the guy with the beard!

Aww, c'mon Wordsmith! You know that beard is Santa Claus sexy! :-P

He's a cutie (and has big ears....is that a sign of anything or is that just big feet?)

LOL! **choking*** .........Off to the naughty chair, young lady.

Damn - spirit - good thing ya caught that young lady. That took my BREATH away for a second. Had to gulp.

'sides, 'randa - I thot it was all about the nose!

I think it was the way he was talking in that British accent. he's a dual citizen of Britain & Iran.

Poor Senator Ensign. Politico is now reporting that in addition to the mistress and her husband, the mistress' son was on Ensign's payroll. Looks like the whole family was pimping the Senator. I wouldn't be surprised if there was way more to this story than just wandering d1ck disease, like extortion or even trading of national security secrets. Too bad the Promise Keeper couldn't Keep his Promise. Let's start the resignation countdown!

grifters, huh?

LOL

mmmm - nepotism.

Long ago, i took my daughter and her friends to see 'Arachnophobia.' There's a scene wherein the coach of one of the ball teams at the local high school is explaining all the relatives that work with him or around him. The town's doctor mutters something like 'classic nepotism' - and the coach's wife replies: "Oh no, we're baptists."

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guess you'd have to hear it first-hand

The Secret Love Letters of Afghan Women
Expressing forbidden love despite great risk.
Photo Essay and Text by Lana Slezic
May/June 2009 Issue

There is no room for love in Afghanistan," said a young teenage girl to me one day as we sipped tea in the sitting room of her family's apartment in Kabul. She said it as if it were true and had been true for years, for as long as she could remember. And not in that moment, but in the twilight of that evening and for several years after, her remark caused me to reflect on the kind of space that love itself can consume. An endless space without dimension, like a sketch without charcoal or a raindrop without water—more space than even the glorious mountains of the Hindu Kush could ever take up. Yet in the tiny precipice of this Afghan girl's heart, where love and all of its beautiful unknowns should have blossomed, it didn't, it couldn't.
The love that I felt in Afghanistan was a luxury. It was a luxury because I was an outsider and could afford to let Afghanistan enter me in a way that allowed me to recognize the beauty in all of its harshness. And although this land and its strife often, almost every day, brought me to feel defeat, loss, and compassion, I always had a great fluffy cushion to land on—a cushion provided to me by the love of my family and the memories of a life monumentally different than what I was witness to there.

From the moment I landed in Kabul, that love could have gone in several directions. It could have rested on the landscape or the children or the poetry that existed in the tired sighs of the people. But I was unequivocally drawn—as one is to light in utter darkness—to Afghan women. For them I had passion and energy. For them my emotions had no boundaries. For them I gave in wholeheartedly in order to show them to others as I saw them for myself, the most intricately designed butterflies stripped of their wings.

And then one day, a surprise. A young man I had known brought to me a stack of letters. More than 600 pages. It was a secret correspondence of love, one that allowed the imaginations of him and his love to wander, for it was only in those pages and in their dreams that they could walk together. To disclose their love would mean the end and perhaps worse. That day I realized that love existed in Afghanistan—in a single glance, a certain tone, the shadow of a school yard—but not without grave risk or consequence.

For me this complicated intertwining of love took shape and form in the darkness of an old Afghan box camera. It was there as I peered into a space not larger than a small treasure chest, isolated from the rest of Afghanistan, that I could fully express how I felt for these women.

http://www.motherjones.com/photoessays/2009/05/...

The President NEEDS a vacation. Of course, he's too busy and too responsible to pull a Bush and shirk his duties.

So he's been sending a surrogate who's been fooling the Paparazzi. Check out the travels of the "Lil' President."

http://www.jailbreaktoys.com/Photobama_Freestyl...

Well this Letterman brouhaha shows us how determined white men are at protecting the women in their group - even if it is Sarah Palin. Bill Maher's gonna have to clean it up from now on!!

http://actsoffaithinloveandlife.blogspot.com/20...

Can't believe I'm spending my day off online, I really had planned to do somethings around the house lol...darn you JJP lol.

Industry is critical of Michelle Obama's organic garden

...the symbolic importance of an organic garden on the South Lawn, visible from the iron fence on E Street, has blossomed in ways no one could have expected. It has not only spurred many to have their own home garden — it has also clearly put a scare into conventional agriculture, which has fought back.

Obama’s stated purpose — to highlight the importance of a healthful diet for children and how much easier it is to get children to eat from their least favorite food group, vegetables, when produce is just out of the ground — was quickly transposed upon a much larger playing field.

No sooner had the garden been announced than a letter addressed to Mrs. Barack Obama arrived at the East Wing from an organization that represents companies selling chemical pesticides and fertilizers. The Mid America CropLife Association, an agribusiness media group, urged the first lady to give conventional agriculture equal time.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23838...



Come on now, with the cost of food as high as it is now, I too have gone into gardening a few herbs and veggies too to save money, many have. In fact, there was a report last week or the week before on NBC Nightly News about more people turning to home gardening or communal gardening because of the high price of food. I really think though that in this case, these people are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Does anyone remember when organizations and such were making a fuss over anything Laura Bush or Barbara Bush did while First ladies?

All first Lady Michelle Obama has to do is hold a conference on community gardening. You'll find must people are almost all organic gardeners.

So Michelle Obama is supposed to set up a commercial farm on the White House lawn, huh?

You'd think so from reading this bullshit.

The next requests will be a cotton field and watermelon patch out back.

They need to STFU. More people would go organic if they could afford it. So, no, the First Lady needs to pay them no mind about their pesticides.

That's true. I would love to buy more organic products in the grocery store, but I simply can't afford it. The truth of the matter is many people, especially within the African American and Latino community don't eat healthy, and if this is a step to gear those in the direction of a healthier lifestyle that's affordable to them, then that's great.

Osama bin Laden Is a Dead Man
Almost exactly three years ago I predicted the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. And a month later he was dead. Sometimes you can see the handwriting on the wall. Zarqawi had gotten careless and had also turned the local population against him, which I figured would eventually catch up with him. And it did. Now, I see similar handwriting on the wall for Osama bin Laden.

Here are the clues that Osama's days are numbered:

1. In one of his latest tapes, he was asking for donations to his cause. This is not something that was part of the regular fare before. If they're desperate enough to attach that to a threat that was otherwise bragging about how they're going to rip us apart, then they might be running low on cash. It doesn't sound very menacing to beg for a handout. If they're running low on funds, then they could be in a world of trouble.

2. The Pakistani army is moving into South Waziristan as we speak. They've already cleared out the Swat valley. Bin Laden was so nervous about that, that he did a tape on the intricacies of Pakistani politics, railing against specific politicians and their strategic goals. Gee, I wonder why he knows so much about Pakistan and cares so much about the army's movement into these tribal areas. He hears footsteps.

3. The Taliban who have traditionally protected Al Qaeda leadership have alienated the local population in Pakistan by carrying out a series of terrorist attacks against respected tribal leaders and innocent civilians. When you lose the local population, you're living on borrowed time.

4. We have a smart president. In the seven years after 9/11, the Bush administration could not for the life of them get the Pakistani government to move against the Taliban or Al Qaeda, who had taken shelter in northern Pakistan. They got almost no results in rooting out those forces from the Swat and Waziristan areas. I don't know if it's because they didn't know what they were doing or it was because they didn't really care to try.

But now we have a president who actually cares to get the job done and apparently knows how to do it. I say that because of the facts on the ground. A Pakistani government that was considered weak and ineffectual in the five months since Obama's inauguration has somehow been able to muster up a massive campaign against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in the north. I don't know what the Obama administration did behind the scenes to get this done, but they did it. They got results.

So, now Al Qaeda is being squeezed from the north in Afghanistan and from the south in Pakistan. They might be running out of money and out of options. They have lost the good will of their hosts and might be in some serious trouble here. So, given these circumstances, I'm willing to go out on a limb again and say I think Osama bin Laden will be killed or captured within the year (killed is far more likely; he might even die of natural causes as he attempts to flee the area in deteriorating health). If the Pakistani army blazes through South Waziristan the way they did in Swat, it might be quicker than that.

One final prediction -- if this does come to fruition, the right-wing in America will fervently claim that Barack Obama had nothing to do with it and that any Republican president could have done the same, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/osama-...

Dj - i think you got this on dead to rights as well. I think Osama Bin Lauden has about 90 days.

For political reasons, they will have us kill him.

Fox Attacks Obama For Suggesting Fox Is Devoted To Attacking Him


Gee, Fox News depicts President Barack Obama as an America-hating, socialist radical, suggests that he deliberately insulted Israel, likens him to a cancer in the country, accuses him of making the country more vulnerable to terrorist attacks, and suggests he should be investigated by the Department of Homeland Security - and that's not counting the vicious readers' comments about him at The Fox Nation website (screen grabs after the jump) and now the "fair and balanced" network is attacking him again for saying there's one network "entirely devoted to attacking my administration." Well, maybe Fox has a point. After all, they do spend a fair amount of time attacking Nancy Pelosi, ACORN and Democrats, in general, so it's not just Obama.


http://www.newshounds.us/2009/06/17/fox_attacks...


Thanks to Newshounds for the story, but come on now Fox News, are you really going to say on your Huffington Post wannabe site: President Takes Swipe at FOX News ... What's Going On Here? (http://www.thefoxnation.com/media/2009/06/16/ma...) and really have to ask? Fox News know they rarely if ever have a nice thing to report when it comes to Obama and his administration, on top of making things up and misinforming people.

Boy, 8, saves sister and drunk adults from fire

Police in Poland say an 8-year-old boy saved his sister and three drunk adults from a fire by calling police and fighting the flames before help arrived. The fire started outside the door of the boy's apartment in the western town of Miedzyrzecz late Monday.

Police said Tuesday that the boy was unable to wake up his mother or two men — all of whom were intoxicated — so called the emergency number himself.

He helped his 5-year-old sister get dressed and repeatedly poured water on the burning door as he waited for help.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/...



Wow, this little boy had alot of smarts, guts, and determination to do what he did to save everyone.

Is there anything worse than a summer head cold?I feel like sh*t.That is all.

Take it easy, get plenty of rest, and I second spirit_55z on the neti pot. Feels weird the first couple of times, but it works.

To answer your question though, it could be worse. You could have this cold while being away on a vacation you looked forward to for months...trust me on that ;-)

It's misery at its most miserable. I use a Neti Pot.

You sure it's not Swine Flu?

Not right at all...

very few things are as miserable.

Aw You poor thing. It is miserable.

Nasal Spray is a lifesaver for me to clear a stuffy nose!

Just make sure it's not Zicam, it was pulled rrom shelves because it can cause permanent loss of one's smell. Get better.

Ah!

I didn't know that. Thanks a lot!

Didn't know that about Zicam. Thanks for the heads up.

This was just too funny and ironic to not post:

Women dine, dash and then crash into IHOP

Four women trying to skip out on their bill at an International House of Pancakes ended up plowing into the Detroit restaurant as they sped away. No one was injured in the accident Tuesday morning. Restaurant manager Raymond Jefferson told the Detroit Free Press the women ran from the IHOP just after 6 a.m. without paying their bill. Their server chased them out the door.

But one of the women lost control of the Mercury Cougar as they drove away, crashing through the restaurant's wall and smashing at least one large window...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/...

That IHOP used to be owned by Anita Baker and her husband.

lmao, Anita Baker owned an ihop. I surely would have visited cause I know that ihop would have "Given [me] the best that [they] got."

i didn't want to presume this was a crew of sistas making off. I'd like to see the tapes. They had their rooty tutti fresh & fruities, and got to steppin.

I'm partial to the chicken-fajita omelletes and harvest nut'n'grain pancakes myself.

Webb.....did you see this mess:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/...

You can't even dream up something this crazy...all the twists and turns this damn saga took and now this...SMH!

LoL, they don't call it the Dirty South for nothing, lmao. Laneisha is like, "He ain't no hero!"

This link is somewhat buried in the morning open thread, it's something to think about: on Capitol Hill, who are the lobbyinsts for OUR interests?

If Lobbying Money Talks, the African American Constituency is Muted on Capitol Hill

Well first of all "we" would have to AGREE on some things first! Secondly the knee jerk reaction to protecting every Black male would be criminal has got to stop. Third Black women have to be protected the way Palin and her daughters were this week after Letterman got the smack down. Then maybe we could set an agenda and get some work done. Oh yeah..people have to stop viewing a Black face in a high place as an accomplishment that requires no return. And before I get tons of responses about how that's not true: give me something Obama has done specifically for Blacks and only for Blacks.

I don't think we ALL have to agree on something... but I do think that, if a group of us have a similar position on things, we should be sure to organize and push that issue forward.

As for Obama doing something expressly for Blacks... I don't see that happening. He is the American President, not the President for Black People.

Black Americans should lobby for the address of their interests. as should any constituent group.

But I will add that:
- If health reform does happen, it will disproportionately help AAs, since AAs are among those who are disproportionately w/o health insurance (assuming a new heath program helps folks who are unisured).

- I don't know the status of this, but I think Jack&Jill Pol has reported that the Obama administration is making moves to settle issues related to Black Farmers.

- I also understand that that the administration/Justice Dept is planning to make changes to eliminate disparities in drug sentencing, where crack cocaine (used a lot by AAs) arrests result in more jail time than cocaine powder (used a lot by whites) arrests.

So... I don't know if Obama is doing stuff that will specifically help AAs, but he is doing things that will disproportionality benefit AAs, if only because he is changing policies that have disproportionately hurt AAs in the past.

Well looky here:

Ensign quits Senate GOP leadership post


Republican Sen. John Ensign of Nevada has stepped down from his leadership post one day after admitting he carried on a extra-marital affair with a woman who was on his campaign staff.

Ensign conveyed his decision in a phone call with Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, who said he had accepted the resignation.

Ensign was chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, the fourth-ranking spot in the leadership.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALe...

So, your humble conservative went to speak to the Richmond Crusade for Voters last night. Suffice it to say that it did not go well. At all.

Y'all here at JJP didn't prepare me well enough to deal with a room full of people who don't support you, ain't gonna support you, and don't like you...so I blame y'all for my not so great showing...LOL.

(break)

lamh32, just saw the article...and oddly enough, someone from the Deeds camp in Richmond told me the exact same thing. And you/him aren't the first people to suggest that. That wheel's been turning, though...but it seems a little hypocritical in that I really can't think of one thing I agree with the Dems on. So even being a conservative "Democrat" almost seems a ploy to win an election; I don't knock that, but if I were running, it's not what I'd want to do.

My bad.

lol

Uh huh...lol

You got a lot to live down, D. Not the least of which is your fellow Republicans in Virginia.

About 4 years ago I went to a talk given by Former Governor Gillmore about State emergency and crisis preparedness at our local Business Club. Law firm I was using at the time wanted me to meet him to discuss a proposal to fund (from merchant banks) and build a small factory in Virginia which would produce some specialized equipment for first responders (and provide possibly 80 new jobs). After the talk, went up with one of the senior Law Partners (which Gillmore works for, BTW) and the SOB wouldn't look me in the eye, and walked away in the middle of the 20 second elevator pitch, embarrassing the hell out of his Partner.

5 minutes after talking to Governor Warner, we had someone assigned to work with us, a list of people to talk to, and references to several Merchant Banks - as well as a State regulatory person who could help us through the various levels of paperwork.

Had a similar experience with then Governor Allen, at a groundbreaking for a major foreign company opening a new facility in the state. A company which was a major client.

So... It isn't necessarily you - It's folks experience with your fellow Republicans.

That's true. I've become the personfication of other people's sins and foolishness (there's some kind of test that describes that; starts with an R, I think). People project, for example, Allen's "macaca" statement on me...

...and as much as I tell them "well, Allen/Gilmore/(insert a name here) isn't McDonnell," they're not trying to hear that. It's guilt by association...but I knew that coming in, so I can't complain.

Not too much, anyway.

Deeds just needs to tie McDonnell to Jim Gilmore. Gilmore has Bush-level approval ratings. LOL

True, dat!

Gilmore was a real piece of work.

Shoot, I think Gilmore is even LESS popular than Bush. At least Bush is a likeable guy. Gilmore? Not so much. That's why he got his ass handed to him in a landslide back in November, 7 years after he left office. *SMH*

Virginia inherently is a conservative state. Democrats have shown that fiscal responsibility (conservatives would call it conservatism) is a major electoral weapon. Democrats in Virginia tend to be pro-gun, can be either side of the abortion issue, support the troops and military, and ...

"like puppies".

So I don't understand what the big divide is here.

D,

I was raised in New Orleans, as some of ya'll might remember, and NOLA is a bright blue spot in a sea of red (even now after katrina). Also had (or probably still does) have one of the largest metro population of African Americans in the South and in the US (Here's a list of by percentage from the Census Bureau circa 2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._citie....) On a whole, of the 67% AA in NOLA I would say 95% of them are Dems. So I think I kinda no from what I speak when it comes to being a part of a large Black Dem population, particularly in the South.

Now I have some theories on why most of them vote Dems, and not just because of the perception of racism that permeates the GOP, but I'm at work right now, so I'll talk more indepth later.

I'll just say like Black Snob said, if you are in it to really enact change, then your party affiliation shouldn't matter, and you should definitely look into campaigning as an independent or ConservaDem, cause you can't change nothing if you don't have the power, and you can't have the power unless you are elected.

Well, if being elected is important, then why would you want to be a ConservaDem in NOLA?

Was Jefferson a ConservaDem before he was busted for all that $$$ in the freezer?

what??

The ConservaDem comment had nothing to do with NOLA, this was in reference to a comment I posted in for D last night in the afternoon open thread (I think). Maybe you should go look that up.

True. I'd be more apt to go back to being independent...though I'm not even sure how THAT would play out.

thank you for reporting back to us, D.

I'll be honest; I do believe folks should be in both parties, but when it's obvious we're not welcome in both parties, it's tough. If more of the GOP were like Jack Kemp, this wouldn't even be an issue..but, alas, Kemp was too too rare.

...and the remnant of the GOP causes people to question my sanity (or how much I'm getting paid, which with two kids, ain't nearly enough).

The hardest part of it all is taking the beatings and abuse, not taking the stress out on the family, and waking up the next day like the previous one didn't happen.

"beatings and abuse"?

Not in a physical sense.

And yeah, it's the life I have based on what I believe. Doesn't make it any less draining at times.

I know you didn't mean in a physical sense, but it's still a bit overly dramatic, and reveals at least a bit of a martyr complex. You're going around around trying to sell blacks on modern conservatism and the Republican party, and they're rejecting it. Poor you. Damn those evil blacks. And how courageous of you.

Given that the Republican party's biggest problem at this point has to do with whites straying from it, you may be more productive by trying the message to them, and you probably won't get your feelings hurt as much, either.

It's my job, so I deal. Take it as what it is, me venting. Hell, if all I told y'all about was the good stuff from the campaign, you'd wonder who I was talking to all the time...

...and if all I talked to were people who I knew would support me, be they white, black or otherwise...well, isn't that part of what's gotten the GOP where it is now? Why do you think I'm still hanging around here?

It's no different from those here at JJP who like throwing names and insults: I deal with it, but it never stops getting old. It may be dramatic...but it's what's going on.

"...and if all I talked to were people who I knew would support me, be they white, black or otherwise...well, isn't that part of what's gotten the GOP where it is now?"

Where did I say you should only talk to people who support you?

I didn't say you did, did I?

If you want an argument, take it elsewhere.

Yes, you did say that. Look at the quote I pasted.

No argument, just observations. And I have to say, all things considered, you get treated pretty well here.

More often than not, I am.

I'm actually all for a rise of a third party (preferably independent)

One of the biggest breaths of fresh air a few weeks ago was seeing Jesse Ventura do the television rounds. IMO he said out loud what a lot of people were thinking and he wasn't afraid to say it.

We have independent voters. We should have independent representation.

I am too. While I'm happy that the democrats are in power, I do believe there should be balance and unfortunately (or maybe in this case, thankfully...lol) there is none to be found in the GOP currently. I think this is the perfect opportunity for the rise of a third party that can offer ideas and bring forth good debates into the political atmosphere.

I'm with you LTMidnight, I like Ventura too, he's not a democrat, but he does have alot of liberal leanings that I tend to agree with him on. Not to mention, when he took on Hannity, I had a new found respect for the guy because he would not back down and you could see how scared Hannity was of him lol.

Exactly. I'd actually like to see Ventura run for president in 2012. While he may not win, his presence would cause people to take notice on what's going on around him.

I'd like to see him run too. He does have good ideas and is more open-minded and reasonable than alot of people think.

interesting thoughts on fatherhood and obama...

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/444069/ob...

For Justice58:

I can't check on it now, but check back in the Evening Post. I should have some links for you there, hopefully.

Thanks,

Good deal!

Now LISTEN! We cannot - I repeat CANNOT - go around at work pretending we are The Supremes. Some of us can sing, it's keeping true to the tune that gives us the trouble.

I know. When I try to do the Stop! gesture my hand keeps smacking into the monitor (LOL).

"Baby, baby, I'm aware of where you go"..... Oh, oh, Here comes the boss!

Nobody wore those wigs like Lady D.