Jack & Jill Politics

I'd be curious to hear folks' reaction to the front page NYT story on more normal B/W interactions (a snippet is below). It's like the earnest, positive version of the Onion story posted a while back — note the white guy at the gym talking about BHO — but still, overall positive. Does anyone feel like this is not happening? I feel that it is in my area.

Voices Reflect Rising Sense of Racial Optimism
Kristen Luce for The New York Times
Published: May 2, 2009
MILWAUKEE — Although the civil rights movement gave Samuel Sallis equality under the law a long time ago, he was left wanting most of his life, he says, for the subtle courtesies and respect he thought would come with it. Being a working-class black man downtown here meant being mostly ignored, living a life invisible and unacknowledged in a larger white world.
Then Mr. Sallis, 69, noticed a change.

“I’ve been working downtown for 30 years, so I’ve got a good feeling for it,” Mr. Sallis said. “Since President Obama started campaigning, if I go almost anywhere, it’s: ‘Hi! Hello, how are you, sir?’ I’m talking about strangers. Calling me ‘sir.’ ”

He added: “It makes you feel different, like, hey — maybe we are all equals. I’m no different than before. It’s just that other people seem to be realizing these things all around me.”

In dozens of interviews in seven states over the last several days, black men and women like Mr. Sallis said they were feeling more optimistic about race relations than even a year ago, when Mr. Obama emerged as a serious presidential contender after a string of primary and caucus victories. Many whites said they were feeling better, too, expressing an invigorated sense of openness toward people of other races.

Yet no one claims that racial prejudice has disappeared.

In a recent report to law enforcement agencies, the Homeland Security Department warned that right-wing extremists could use Mr. Obama’s election as a recruiting tool. And the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, reported finding 926 active groups in the United States in 2008, up 50 percent from 2000.

Still, Mr. Sallis said, “it feels like there’s a possibility now that wasn’t there before.”

In Tampa, Fla., Milton Patrick, 33, an auditor who is black, went to a baseball game this spring for the first time at the invitation of his white colleagues. In Karen Jackson’s multiracial Los Angeles office, where race, politics and religion were once taboo subjects, Ms. Jackson, a black woman, said people were engaging her in friendly and meaningful discussions. And in Brooklyn, Shel Harris, a black man, said he dropped his “skeptical, more on guard” attitude toward whites after working alongside so many on the Obama campaign.

“Whenever they said something, I was always looking out for their ulterior motives,” said Mr. Harris, 62, a retired phone company worker. “Now I find that I take white people’s statements more on face value.”

The interviews reflect findings in the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, in which two-thirds of Americans said race relations were generally good, with the percentage of blacks who said so doubling since July.

In just over 100 days, Mr. Obama’s presidency seems to have done much to alter the greater American public’s perception of race relations.

And perhaps, in some cases, even the reality.

“I feel a lot more comfortable starting up a conversation with people of other races on the streets now than I did before,” said Mitch Hansch, 29, a white waiter in New York City. “Since Obama was elected, racial tensions seem a little lower. I think it’s fantastic.”

Northeast of Los Angeles, M. J. J. Schmidt, 62, a real estate executive who is white, said he also felt something different.

“I go to a gym where there are a number of black people,” Mr. Schmidt said. “We don’t often communicate. They tend to have their own circle of friends. But now, there’s been more communication. Now you have an opener. After the election, I started saying hello. I said, ‘Hey, what do you think of Obama, about our new president?’ ”

The power of positive images of the Obama family has no doubt played a role for both races.

“From my vantage point, what contributes to African-American numbers is just the outright awesome pride we feel when we see President Obama stand up with world leaders,” said Clifford Whitby, 46, a black real estate developer in Macon, Ga., referring to the poll. “That does a great deal for the psyche of African-American people. If those numbers weren’t as high as they are, I would think there was something wrong with the polls.”

Some whites pointed to a slightly different dynamic. [more on the web site]

Nice article

I agree with most of the views shared with both white and black
We need to keep having these kind of conversations if we want to progress as a nation

I live in the midwest and in law school, my friends and I could not celebrate as we wanted because of the tension. Even on the inauguration day, as we were watching it with few students, it was a sad thing to see that it was just us the democrats that were there rejoicing about our new president

The sad part is that these are law students, future law markers and still have no clue that we don't live in a bubble
During one of our discussion, I made a comment to the entire class that the “memo writers” should be a lesson to all. This is what happens when we stop reasoning as humans and stop relating with every day lives but stuck in our own ideology and stick with the same principles that holds us back.

Electing BHO is not going to turn it around entirely, but I hope we can at least start thinking and reaching out

I also want to make a comment that this is also our opportunity as minorities to move forward. Those jobs and opportunities we felt too scared to pursue, this is the time to put fears aside and demand for our own share of the dream and cake

I hope our youths are using this as opportunity to stay in school. Also, business oriented people shd take advantage of the small business loans
People shd chase the green jobs, get trained and certified where necessary
I think at the end of the day, the middle class and minorities are going to be the ones to benefit from it

We were joking how unemployed wall street folks wld not want to go and grab the new jobs but as minorities and middle class, that means more vacancies for us to grab

Durbin's comments this week just reinforced my beliefs about Fredo and Summers.

Yes Michelle Obama
canFirst Lady, Mom-in-chief, role model, fashion icon, dinner lady, serial hugger. Twelve top female writers celebrate the many faces of Michelle Obama
The Observer, Sunday 3 May 2009

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/may…

That's what I'm talking about right there.

Great stuff.

I just came from Wolverine too.

LOVED IT!

I just came from Wolverine too.

LOVED IT!