Jack & Jill Politics

AFTERNOON OPEN THREAD IS UP!!

rikyrah: Oooooo-Kaaaaay! I MORE! :>) PLEASE 4-GIVE IFFF they R DUPLICATES:

+ President Obama Stops for Lunch. :>) VIDEO!!

Did anybody criticize his - - + CONDIMENTS? :>) :>) :>)

IFF so- - - -SAAAAAA-LAP!! :>) :>) :>)

Annnnnd, some PICS: :>)

+
Photos From Obama's Great-Uncle

+ The FLOTUS @ Bancroft Elementary School | Washington, DC :>)

SHE! IS! JUST! L-O-V-E-L-Y! - - PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY!!

God Bless FIRST LADY!! :>) :>)

C U'ALL L8R!! :>)

Looks like you are feeling much better Green Lady...glad to see you back in rare form (at least for a while). Take it slow.

Myth: Heeeeeey! :>) There R VARIOUS types of days. :>)

I will B takin' it S-L-O-W 4 a time. :>)

+ THANK U! LUV YA!! :>) :>)

P.S. LUV your avatar!! :>)

Hey GLH!! Hope everything's ok!

Miranda: + THANKS!! LUV YA! :>)

LOL!

You still got it, Lady! I see you giving the.......Saaaaaa>>>lap!

Too Cute!

Justice58: Tee! Hee! :>) :>)

GLH,

while it is good to see you, you best be minding the doctor's orders ..

you hear me?

rikyrah: + THANK U! LUV U!! :>)

Appreciatin' your concern. :>) I will B OFF 4 some time.

BUT - - -carryin' U'ALL in my + HEART! :>)

I - - HEAR YA!! :>) Yes ma'm!! :>)

Hey GLH, I hope you are doing better and be sure to take care of yourself......good health is one of the most precious assets a human can posses...so please, please take care of yourself, take it easy and use this time to reflect and be peaceful......cause if you read and listen to these psycho Republicans and the trash they spew, it is enough to send your blood pressure up and their garbage is hazardous to your health.

Take it easy.

Monie

Monie: LOL!!! :>) GOOD ADVICE!

PROMISE that I AM followin' DOC's ORDERS!! :>)

THANK U! LUV YA!!

Hope your "move" went well! :>)

GLH -

We carry you in our hearts and send prayers up for your healing. You are missed, but it is important for you to have a full recovery so that we can once again enjoy the humor, intelligence and teaching that you share so well.

sagittarius: Heeeey! :>)

+ BLUSHIN' :>) :>)

+ THANK U!! LUV YA!! :>)

Promise that I AM listenin' 2 the DOCS!! :>)

Sotomayor's Republican Gender Gap
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/30/736933/...

Margie Omero, writing at pollster.com, finds intriguing data to highlight not just the public's strong support for Obama's SCOTUS pick, Sonia Sotomayor:

... both Gallup and Quinnipiac ...data continue to show that women, particularly Republican women, respond strongly to Sotomayor's nomination.

Both polls show a very large gender gap among Republicans

In the Gallup poll, both Democratic and Republican women are more supportive of Sotomayor than their Democratic counterparts. The difference is more modest among Democrats (men: +46 "excellent/good pick" minus "only fair/poor" pick; women: +54). Among Republicans the difference is sizable (men: -44; women: -11).

The Quinnipiac poll is consistent. There is no difference in the ratings of Democratic men (+74 "approve" minus "disapprove") and Democratic women (+76). But Republican women are almost evenly divided on Sotomayor's nomination (-9), while Republican men are more decidedly disapproving (-39).

I am starting to think that just maybe white women have figured out that you can't crack the ceiling when you get your chance you blow the damn thing in to shards. Putting cracks is working with white privledge and you see where that got you.

They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/5/29/22...

...What's becoming clear, though, is that a certain element of the Republican Wurlitzer is severely off-key. To a certain degree, there are always fringes on both wings that do little service to the people actually responsible for winning elections. Caught up in their own echo-chamber of self-righteousness, MoveOn.org put an ad in the New York Times accusing our commanding general in Iraq of betraying his country. The pulse of the anti-war movement was gone the next day. MoveOn's huge mailing list isn't really fringe at all, but they were marginalized (and essentially censured by Congress) by tin-ear leaders who let their strong sense of right and wrong overpower their political senses. At the same time that catastrophe was unfolding another catastrophe was unfolding among right-wing activist groups who let their hatred of Latinos overpower a cool analysis of demographic reality. In shooting down President Bush's effort at immigration reform, the right did severe damage to John McCain's campaign, and to the campaigns of Republicans all over the country. It's likely to be lasting damage, and their treatment of Sonia Sotomayor indicates that they are content to drive over the same cliff more than once.

With Republican talking heads calling Sotomayor a 'racist', a 'schoolmarm', a member of the 'KKK' without the hoods or the nooses', stupid, and temperamental, there is no way for either women or latinos to conclude anything else but that the GOP doesn't like them. And here's the thing. Normally, political advocates argue their case in a way that they think will ultimately help their party win elections. Sometimes, their desire to win leads them to trim their sails a bit about how they really feel. But these Republicans are letting it all hang out without any regard whatsoever for the essentially suicidal rhetoric they are using.

A lot of liberals are almost gleeful to see them take all the rope and hang themselves with it. Well, I'm not gleeful. I really don't like having an openly racist party in this county, let alone one that is the only realistic alternative to the Democrats. It's not healthy and it's not safe...

rikyrah/JJP FAMILY: HEEEEEEEEEEY!!! :>) :>)

I've been ALLOWED 2 make a post - - then back 2 the RECOVERY REGIME. :>)

2-day is SPECIAL - - -my "MOMMY" is 93 YEARS BLESSED! :>) Wooo! Hooo!

JJP CHOIR MEMBERS - - time ta "ROBE UP"!! [the KELLY GREEN ONES!!] :>)


LET'S SAAAAANG!!! :>) :>)

+ THE HALLELUJAH CHORUS ( BROOKLYN TABERNACLE CHOIR )

Annnnnd, Happy Birthday [Stevie Wonder]. [Get your "DANCE ON 2"] :>) :>)

Soundin' - - -GR8!!! THANK U!!! :>) :>)

JJP FAMILY: I cannot THANK U ENOUGH 4 your PRAYERS/CARDS/KIND.
EXPRESSIONS.

Please KNOW that U R a LARGE PART of my restoration. :>)

4 this, I THANK U WITH ALL MY HEART! LUV U!! :>).

I MISS U A LOT,

BUT- - - I CARRY U'ALL in my - HEART!. :>) :>)

GOD BLESS U!

Hi GreenLaddy, good to see you post. Keep resting.

Peace and love to you, dear one.

spirit: Heeeeeeey! + THANKS/ LUV YA!! :>)

Aren't you a beautiful sight today, GreenLady!

So happy to see you posting even for a little bit. So many of us miss you and love you. I miss you posting articles. I had become spoiled. :)

Myth, misses your signing off at night! She was very concerned about you!

Take care of yourself and we will continue to lift you in prayer for a complete healing and recovery. Happy Happy Birthday to your Mom!

With Much Love,

Justice

Justice58: U R 2 KIND!! :>) I heard from Mythe. Yaaaaaa! :>)

+ THANK U WITH LUV!!.

God Bless U!! :>)

P.S. + The Lord Bless You and Keep You

+ Now The Day Is Over :>) ENJOY!! :>)

GREAT to see you!!!Sending you the utmost BEST wishes for a speedy recovery!

Shazza: THANK U!! LUV YA!! :>)

God bless you too Green Lady. I am sooooo Glad to see you online!!!!!

rorysmomma: HEEEEY! I heard U "sangin' "!! GOOD JOB!! :>)

+ THANK U!! LOVE YA!! :>)

Green Lady I truly to love you.? Take care of yourself because I miss you too much when you are not here.

It is sooo great to see you here. Have a wonderful day and make a speedy recovery!

with lots of love

Lilytiger: HEEEEEEEY! :>) :>)

+ THANK U! LUV YA!! :>)

In light of Obama's upcoming D-Day trip abroad, APYahoo has an article and video up about Obama's grandfather: Stanley Dunham

Obama's Gramps: Gazing skyward on D-Day in England
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090530/ap_on_go_pr...

Surely, Stanley Dunham was gazing skyward 65 years ago, on D-Day.

Dunham, the man whom Barack Obama would one day call Gramps, was a 26-year-old supply sergeant stationed near the English Channel with the U.S. Army Air Forces when the invasion of Normandy at last began. Six weeks later, he crossed the Channel, too, and followed the Allied front across France. A year later, he was on track to fight in Japan when the atom bomb sent him home instead...

The video has Obama's speaking about his grandfather, and his grandfather's brother Ralph Dunham also speaking about his brother. It's amazing how much Obama looks like his grandfather.

As a scientist with an interest in genetics, it still amazes me how much our ancestors genes can shape us.

Evolution of blackness...nigger, nigra, negro, black, africanamerican and now we all MULTIRACIAL

www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/29/multiracial-a...

You forgot "colored"! I think that goes between nigra and negro.

You right, I KNEW I was forgetting one too!!

Miranda: LOL!! :>) :>)

-Er- - - -ummm- - That would B "CULLUD!" :>)

Sotomayor And Race: Read Her Opinions
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/05/sotomay...

Is she or isn't she? Wouldn't it be great if Judge Sonia Sotomayor had a decades-long paper trail detailing, in minute detail, her views on race, affirmative action, fairness and discrimination? If we did -- if we knew how she acted on her beliefs in past, we might be able to predict how she'd act on them in the future. Right?

Well......

Turns out that race comes up fairly frequently in legal proceedings adjudicated by United States courts of appeals. Sotomayor participated in 100 such cases.

Tom Goldstein decided to read them all to see whether Sotomayor was likely to be sympathetic to claims of racial discrimination...

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/05/sotomay...

...In other words: her decisions -- her actions -- are fairly convincing evidence that she does not have a penchant for ... well, it's not clear what the accusation is -- penchant for racially-based decisions? -- I'm not sure. Her views -- as expressed through her actions and writings -- are conventional.

Here is Pat Buchanan where Bob Shrum lets loose on him.

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/bob-shrum-...

I've never seen Bob Shrum take it to anyone like that. Where'd that come from?
Who knew?

Excellent, thank for bringing it over. I cannot watch CNN.

I particularily liked that Shrum pointed out the mysogyny as well--it might bring some of the pumas over. Their response has been tepid at best.

PUMA...does not care...about non-white people...

I'm pretty sure PUMA only cares about Hillary....that's it.

Agree, and neither does PETA.

Sorry...still hot a bit of the hopey change thing going on..

I found an excerpt of the Vogue article on Ambassador Rice. I mean, I already knew it, but that is ONE.BAD.SISTA, I LOVE IT....

http://www.style.com/vogue/feature/2009_June_Su...

Susan Rice is one smart, hot cookie.

Photo of her, hubby Ian Cameron, and daugter. They have a son too.

http://lattecafe.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/su...

Rice moved into the U.S. ambassador's residence (awesome perk: the forty-second-floor penthouse at the Waldorf-Astoria) the day after she was confirmed.

AWESOME PERK, INDEED!!! Damn.

Right?? I aint mad at her!

FEELING that picture of Ambassador Rice!! Is that Vogue article on her available online somewhere??

May 30, 2009 HufPo
Michelle Obama At Bancroft Elementary School: FLOWER POWER (PHOTOS)

Michelle Obama paid a visit to Washington's Bancroft Elementary School, where she spoke to the students who have been helping her plant the White House Kitchen Garden. During the visit she hugged the students and helped them plant their own garden. Pool report below.

The first lady wore a white shirt with floral pattern, a yellow cardigan, blue capri pants, and silver metallic flats.

FLOTUS on Friday, May 29, 2009, visited fifth-graders at Bancroft Elementary School in the nation's capital to help plant a dozen cucumbers and four red bell pepper plants -- the school has long cultivated an organic garden and students from Bancroft helped Mrs. Obama plant the White House's garden this spring.


Mrs. Obama arrived at 1:56 p.m., dressed in a white floral print blouse, sheer yellow sweater, light blue capri pants and silver faux snakeskin ballet flats.

"Hey!" she said as she walked through the library door to a throng of 45 fifth-graders, most of them sitting on the library rug. Four had been chosen to sit in chairs and read prepared statements on gardening and the importance of eating fruits and vegetables. One wrote about tomatoes, two wrote about broccoli and a third rhapsodized about carrots.

"The tomato is a fruit and it's now my best friend," read Carlos Aguilar.

Tammy Nguyen waxed poetic on the virtues of gardening, saying, "Getting outside feels good."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/29/michel...

"The tomato is a fruit and it's now my best friend," read Carlos Aguilar.

God, I love kids. They're so on target and so hilarious at the same time.

CIA Announces Push to Improve Agency's Language Proficiency

By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 30, 2009

Five years after it was faulted by the 9/11 Commission for inadequate language skills among its employees, the CIA yesterday launched an ambitious program to double the number of analysts proficient in languages deemed critical in the fight against America's enemies.

The new initiative, announced by CIA Director Leon Panetta, was an acknowledgment of the agency's slow progress in adding employees fluent in languages such as Arabic, Farsi and Urdu.

"To gather intelligence and understand a complex world, CIA must have more officers who read, speak, and understand foreign languages," Panetta said in a message sent to employees.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

Obama Says Judge Regrets Wording
GOP Leaders Try to Rein In Reactions to Sotomayor's 2001 Speech

By Dan Eggen and Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, May 30, 2009

President Obama said yesterday that Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor regrets her choice of words in a 2001 speech in which she said a "wise Latina" judge would often make better decisions than a white male.

But Obama, in his first public remarks on the controversy, also condemned "all this nonsense that is being spewed out" by critics who have accused Sotomayor of being a racist and have likened her to a leader of the Ku Klux Klan.

"I'm sure she would have restated it," Obama said of Sotomayor's remarks, in an interview with NBC News that will air next week. "But if you look in the entire sweep of the essay that she wrote, what's clear is that she was simply saying that her life experiences will give her information about the struggles and hardships that people are going through.

"That will make her a good judge," he added.

The comments underscored a shift in the White House's approach to Sotomayor's controversial speech, which has become a flashpoint for many conservatives opposed to her nomination.

At the same time, Republican leaders scrambled yesterday to contain some of the more incendiary and racially tinged remarks that have been aimed at the judge, fearing that continued personal attacks on Sotomayor could severely damage the GOP's appeal to women and Hispanics. Sen. Jeff Sessions (Ala.), the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, said he was "uneasy" with some of the remarks and urged Republicans to focus on her legal record.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

Hey, y'all....at the Republican Party of VA Convention in Richmond this weekend. JJP's good friend Sean Hannity is on stage...LOL.

Will there be waterboarding?

LOL....there was no waterboarding.

We've got a good ticket for the fall elections this year.

Clinton, Bush Agreeable Even as They Disagree
By Alexandre Deslongchamps
Bloomberg News
Saturday, May 30, 2009

TORONTO, May 29 -- Former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush showed camaraderie in a joint appearance Friday while disagreeing on easing the Cuban trade embargo and allowing same-sex marriages.
The two spoke to about 6,000 people at an event organized by a Toronto-based company that produces motivational and training programs. Bush and Clinton were each paid an undisclosed amount to appear.
They were friendly toward each other, with Bush joking that his mother considers Clinton to be like a son because of the extensive charitable work he has done with his father, former president George H.W. Bush -- whom Clinton defeated in 1992.
George W. Bush, who left office in January, said keeping the embargo on Cuba "is an important thing"; his predecessor said the island nation "ought to be part of the hemisphere." Clinton also called on Congress to give presidents more freedom to manage relations with Cuba.
President Obama last month removed travel limits for Cuban Americans visiting family on the island, restrictions that Bush had toughened. Obama also ended restrictions on how much money Cuban Americans can send relatives there and allowed U.S. telecommunications companies to get licenses to operate there. Leaders of some Latin American countries are pressing him to end the U.S. embargo against Cuba.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

Jokie Joke
Two Ladies Talking in Hell
1st woman: Hi! My name is Wanda.
2nd woman: Hi! I'm Sylvia. How'd you die ?

1st woman: I froze to death.
2nd woman: How horrible !

1st woman: It wasn't so bad. After I quit shaking
from the cold, I began to get warm & sleepy, and finally
died a peaceful death .. What about you ?

2nd woman: I died of a massive heart attack. I
suspected that my husband was cheating, so I came home
early to catch him in the act.
But instead, I found him all by himself in
the den watching TV.

1st woman: So, what happened ?

2nd woman: I was so sure there was another woman
there somewhere that I started running all over the house
looking.

I ran up into the attic and searched, and down into the
basement. Then I went through every closet and checked under
all the beds.

I kept this up until I had looked everywhere, and
finally I became so exhausted that I just keeled over with
A heart attack and died.

1st woman: Too bad you didn't look in the
freezer ... we'd both still be alive.

HA HA HA!!!

*dead*

Family values rethug style
Pennsylvania man allegedly suggested dressing in animal costumes during sexually explicit chats with teen
Pennsylvania authorities say a Cumberland County man suggested dressing up in animal costumes during online sex chats with a 15-year-old boy. Agents found wolf- and cat-type costumes in his home.
Alan David Berlin, a 40-year-old Carlisle, Pa., resident, also proposed visiting the boy's Harrisburg home and having sex in the back yard while his parents slept, according to a news release from the Attorney General's Office.

Berlin, who used the screen name "alan_panda_bear", requested nude photos of the boy and suggested they meet in a hotel room where a third person could photograph them having sex, the release says.

The boy's parents became concerned after discovering sexually graphic messages on their son's computer and called the attorney general's child predator unit, the release says. The unit began an investigation Tuesday.

Berlin, a longtime staffer for a Republican state lawmaker, is charged with unlawful contact with a minor, a first-degree felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison and a $25,000 fine.

He is also charged with criminal attempted sexual exploitation of children, criminal solicitation to commit sexual abuse of children, all second-degree felonies, and other offenses.

Berlin was arraigned and sent to Dauphin County jail in lieu of $250,000 bail. He has been suspended from work.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/i...

alan_panda_bear??

errrr.............this man is too twisted...just take him out back and be done with it.

And while his employer is not connected to his pedophilia, she's not just a state legislator, Sen. Jane Orie is the Republican Majority Whip for the Pennsylvania state legislature. In additional to criminal, this has got to be just devastating for her.

I could give less than a damn about who two consenting adults do.
But kids? I want this guy under the jail. FOR LIFE!!! Pedophila is a particularly vile crime.

read it, sign it and pass it on...here is the link

http://healthcareforamericanow.org/page/s/nbc

"Letter content:
Dear NBC and Meet the Press,

Your news network is scheduled to run a thirty-minute "documentary" advertisement sponsored by Conservatives for Patients’ Rights which, based on previous advertisements, will be demonstrably false and maliciously mislead viewers with its statements and edited video content. Based on excerpts from their website, potential significant errors and falsehoods make this ad unfit to air.

As a viewer of your programs, I urge you to closely review the ad and cease plans on airing it immediately.

Sincerely,
Another concerned viewer"

This is why the MSM is the way it is.
Wired
02.19.09 -- 1:45PM By Josh Marshall
Several times over the last few weeks I've said that notwithstanding the last two elections DC remains wired for Republicans. And each time I say that people write in to ask, what does that mean exactly? So here's what I mean. In Washington there's a formal government and a para-government. The formal government itself has all sorts of different layers to it -- the current crop of political appointees, the career employees, etc. But for the moment, let's put everyone who draws a paycheck from the United States government to one side and focus on everyone else.

Who are we talking about? The journalists. The lobbyists. The people who work in the think tanks and quasi-think tanks where purported policy experts work. The employees of the majority activist groups on both sides of the political spectrum. The list could go on and on. But this gives a basic flavor of who we're talking about.

We're coming off of, or at least we've had a period of (because who knows about the future) thirty plus years of conservative dominance of Washington. By some measures you could say forty years. But at least thirty, notwithstanding Bill Clinton's eight years in office. That conditions a generation of people with mindsets based around Republicans being the party of power, the party whose ideas get vindicated at the polls. Most of all Washington is a city that coddles up to and worships power. But a generation of one party holding the reins selects for certain kinds of journalists in key positions of power, the policy experts at the think tanks who get the journalists calls, the lobbyists who move the most money and so forth. You build up a set of assumptions about what kinds of people and ideas are respectable and which aren't. Which are old-fashioned, which are 'cutting edge' and so forth. Who defines conventional wisdom?

In all of these respects, DC remains overwhelmingly wired for the GOP.

Over time, the formal government shapes the para-government. But there's no immediate transition. In fact, in the short-run there's usually an intensified conflict between the two. And you see evidence of the disconnect in repeated failures of people in the capital to predict the reactions of the country to key political developments -- which is something you've seen repeatedly in 2006 and 2008. And even into 2009.

The role of organized money obviously plays a big role too, though money's partisan attachments are highly, highly malleable. The most important factor is the para-government and its entrenched attitudes.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/...

WTF is wrong with this women.Does she think that's how you talk to adults
Palin on Colbert
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) tweets: "Getting ready to tape shout-out for our awesome US troops serving overseas! Will be on 'Colbert Report' next month, broadcast from Iraq..."

Dang! Near every good looking sister in DC is working for the Obama Administration!

And he's married to Michelle.

Brothers are getting jealous!

:)

Wow, lookin good :)

I read this father & son team are challenging the likes of Susan Boyle on Britain's Got Talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gHvATmUsSg

They are great. I have the video zooming out over the internet.

That has GOT to be a great family reunion!!! TOO FUNNY!!

Stavros Flatley - what a clever name. If you've see Michael Flatley's Riverdance or any one of his other productions, then you know his narcissism. These two - especially the kid SO have his moves down.

They do another with Greek dance. And you know what I find flippin' amazing that people who obviously don't "look" British open their mouths and out come these British accents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsnJLUVb1ko

That is hilarious!!

What happened to the woman who called Sen, Clinton a "monster?"

She's working in the White House giving advice on Foreign Policy. Her name is Powers.

Aiight now___, come see the sexier side of Susan Rice.

Is Obama Getting Tough With Israel?
President Obama heads to the Middle East next week, where on Thursday he'll make a much-anticipated address in Cairo aimed at repairing American's ties with the Muslim world.

He has a big advantage simply not being George W. Bush, of course -- and having abolished the most egregious, Crusade-like aspects of this country's approach to counter-terrorism.

But what can he tell the world's Muslims to assuage their anger about their most long-standing grievance: America's reflexive support of Israel?
Read More
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-wa...

It is about time the US take a stand on Israeli policies. The apartheid system that they run is disgusting. They are trying to slowly starve, undereducated and terrorize Palestinians from existence. Putting them on water restrictions while Israelis water their lush desert lawns is just one example of the terrible biases in that part of the world.

President Obama is doing the right thing about the peace process but the problem will be congress.Will they side with whats right for America or as usual be Israeli lapdogs?

Actually "Bibi" is quite frustrated by the lack of cooperation from Congress as well. I read it at the HuffPost, but I'm too lazy to look for the link. Everyone is sick of Israel's version of Dick Cheney.

DJ your knowledge of music is pretty amazing! Thanks...

Thank you. I get it from my father who worked for WVON back in the 60's and help start the first black radio station in Ok.

Your father worked for WVON?

Well, he knows his stuff indeed and passed it on.

He did and even now when he talks about the state of radio I could listen to him all day.

Good Morning Your Sat. jazz track. Enjoy
Teo - Miles Davis & John coltrane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEcJ3dauh5g

Two of my favorites Jazz musicians. I'm such a traditonal jazz snob. :-)))
Thanks.

Here is one more
The World is a Ghetto - Ahmad Jamal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEUVZyHmwHw

djchefron:

I absolutely loooooove Ahmad Jamal. Thanks!

I use to listen to War sing it back in the day. Love it!