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Forty percent of the homes and businesses in the city have been abandoned. Imagine what it would be like if you lived in a city where almost every other house is empty. What would be your state of mind?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is with sad irony that the company which invented &quot;planned obsolescence&quot; -- the decision to build cars that would fall apart after a few years so that the customer would then have to buy a new one -- has now made itself obsolete. It refused to build automobiles that the public wanted, cars that got great gas mileage, were as safe as they could be, and were exceedingly comfortable to drive. Oh -- and that wouldn&#039;t start falling apart after two years. GM stubbornly fought environmental and safety regulations. Its executives arrogantly ignored the &quot;inferior&quot; Japanese and German cars, cars which would become the gold standard for automobile buyers. And it was hell-bent on punishing its unionized workforce, lopping off thousands of workers for no good reason other than to &quot;improve&quot; the short-term bottom line of the corporation. Beginning in the 1980s, when GM was posting record profits, it moved countless jobs to Mexico and elsewhere, thus destroying the lives of tens of thousands of hard-working Americans. The glaring stupidity of this policy was that, when they eliminated the income of so many middle class families, who did they think was going to be able to afford to buy their cars? History will record this blunder in the same way it now writes about the French building the Maginot Line or how the Romans cluelessly poisoned their own water system with lethal lead in its pipes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So here we are at the deathbed of General Motors. The company&#039;s body not yet cold, and I find myself filled with -- dare I say it -- joy. It is not the joy of revenge against a corporation that ruined my hometown and brought misery, divorce, alcoholism, homelessness, physical and mental debilitation, and drug addiction to the people I grew up with. Nor do I, obviously, claim any joy in knowing that 21,000 more GM workers will be told that they, too, are without a job.&lt;br&gt;But you and I and the rest of America now own a car company! I know, I know -- who on earth wants to run a car company? Who among us wants $50 billion of our tax dollars thrown down the rat hole of still trying to save GM? Let&#039;s be clear about this: The only way to save GM is to kill GM. Saving our precious industrial infrastructure, though, is another matter and must be a top priority. If we allow the shutting down and tearing down of our auto plants, we will sorely wish we still had them when we realize that those factories could have built the alternative energy systems we now desperately need. And when we realize that the best way to transport ourselves is on light rail and bullet trains and cleaner buses, how will we do this if we&#039;ve allowed our industrial capacity and its skilled workforce to disappear?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thus, as GM is &quot;reorganized&quot; by the federal government and the bankruptcy court, here is the plan I am asking President Obama to implement for the good of the workers, the GM communities, and the nation as a whole. Twenty years ago when I made &quot;Roger &amp; Me,&quot; I tried to warn people about what was ahead for General Motors. Had the power structure and the punditocracy listened, maybe much of this could have been avoided. Based on my track record, I request an honest and sincere consideration of the following suggestions:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Just as President Roosevelt did after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the President must tell the nation that we are at war and we must immediately convert our auto factories to factories that build mass transit vehicles and alternative energy devices. Within months in Flint in 1942, GM halted all car production and immediately used the assembly lines to build planes, tanks and machine guns. The conversion took no time at all. Everyone pitched in. The fascists were defeated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are now in a different kind of war -- a war that we have conducted against the ecosystem and has been conducted by our very own corporate leaders. This current war has two fronts. One is headquartered in Detroit. The products built in the factories of GM, Ford and Chrysler are some of the greatest weapons of mass destruction responsible for global warming and the melting of our polar icecaps. The things we call &quot;cars&quot; may have been fun to drive, but they are like a million daggers into the heart of Mother Nature. To continue to build them would only lead to the ruin of our species and much of the planet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other front in this war is being waged by the oil companies against you and me. They are committed to fleecing us whenever they can, and they have been reckless stewards of the finite amount of oil that is located under the surface of the earth. They know they are sucking it bone dry. And like the lumber tycoons of the early 20th century who didn&#039;t give a damn about future generations as they tore down every forest they could get their hands on, these oil barons are not telling the public what they know to be true -- that there are only a few more decades of useable oil on this planet. And as the end days of oil approach us, get ready for some very desperate people willing to kill and be killed just to get their hands on a gallon can of gasoline.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama, now that he has taken control of GM, needs to convert the factories to new and needed uses immediately.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Don&#039;t put another $30 billion into the coffers of GM to build cars. Instead, use that money to keep the current workforce -- and most of those who have been laid off -- employed so that they can build the new modes of 21st century transportation. Let them start the conversion work now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Announce that we will have bullet trains criss-crossing this country in the next five years. Japan is celebrating the 45th anniversary of its first bullet train this year. Now they have dozens of them. Average speed: 165 mph. Average time a train is late: under 30 seconds. They have had these high speed trains for nearly five decades -- and we don&#039;t even have one! The fact that the technology already exists for us to go from New York to L.A. in 17 hours by train, and that we haven&#039;t used it, is criminal. Let&#039;s hire the unemployed to build the new high speed lines all over the country. Chicago to Detroit in less than two hours. Miami to DC in under 7 hours. Denver to Dallas in five and a half. This can be done and done now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. Initiate a program to put light rail mass transit lines in all our large and medium-sized cities. Build those trains in the GM factories. And hire local people everywhere to install and run this system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5. For people in rural areas not served by the train lines, have the GM plants produce energy efficient clean buses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6. For the time being, have some factories build hybrid or all-electric cars (and batteries). It will take a few years for people to get used to the new ways to transport ourselves, so if we&#039;re going to have automobiles, let&#039;s have kinder, gentler ones. We can be building these next month (do not believe anyone who tells you it will take years to retool the factories -- that simply isn&#039;t true).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7. Transform some of the empty GM factories to facilities that build windmills, solar panels and other means of alternate forms of energy. We need tens of millions of solar panels right now. And there is an eager and skilled workforce who can build them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;8. Provide tax incentives for those who travel by hybrid car or bus or train. Also, credits for those who convert their home to alternative energy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;9. To help pay for this, impose a two-dollar tax on every gallon of gasoline. This will get people to switch to more energy saving cars or to use the new rail lines and rail cars the former autoworkers have built for them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, that&#039;s a start. Please, please, please don&#039;t save GM so that a smaller version of it will simply do nothing more than build Chevys or Cadillacs. This is not a long-term solution. Don&#039;t throw bad money into a company whose tailpipe is malfunctioning, causing a strange odor to fill the car.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;100 years ago this year, the founders of General Motors convinced the world to give up their horses and saddles and buggy whips to try a new form of transportation. Now it is time for us to say goodbye to the internal combustion engine. It seemed to serve us well for so long. We enjoyed the car hops at the A&amp;W. We made out in the front -- and the back -- seat. We watched movies on large outdoor screens, went to the races at NASCAR tracks across the country, and saw the Pacific Ocean for the first time through the window down Hwy. 1. And now it&#039;s over. It&#039;s a new day and a new century. The President -- and the UAW -- must seize this moment and create a big batch of lemonade from this very sour and sad lemon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yesterday, the last surviving person from the Titanic disaster passed away. She escaped certain death that night and went on to live another 97 years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So can we survive our own Titanic in all the Flint Michigans of this country. 60% of GM is ours. I think we can do a better job.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yours,&lt;br&gt;Michael Moore&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:MMFlint@aol.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MMFlint@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye, GM by Michael Moore</p><p>Goodbye, GM<br />by Michael Moore<br />June 1, 2009</p><p>I write this on the morning of the end of the once-mighty General Motors. By high noon, the President of the United States will have made it official: General Motors, as we know it, has been totaled.</p><p>As I sit here in GM&#39;s birthplace, Flint, Michigan, I am surrounded by friends and family who are filled with anxiety about what will happen to them and to the town. Forty percent of the homes and businesses in the city have been abandoned. Imagine what it would be like if you lived in a city where almost every other house is empty. What would be your state of mind?</p><p>It is with sad irony that the company which invented &#8220;planned obsolescence&#8221; &#8212; the decision to build cars that would fall apart after a few years so that the customer would then have to buy a new one &#8212; has now made itself obsolete. It refused to build automobiles that the public wanted, cars that got great gas mileage, were as safe as they could be, and were exceedingly comfortable to drive. Oh &#8212; and that wouldn&#39;t start falling apart after two years. GM stubbornly fought environmental and safety regulations. Its executives arrogantly ignored the &#8220;inferior&#8221; Japanese and German cars, cars which would become the gold standard for automobile buyers. And it was hell-bent on punishing its unionized workforce, lopping off thousands of workers for no good reason other than to &#8220;improve&#8221; the short-term bottom line of the corporation. Beginning in the 1980s, when GM was posting record profits, it moved countless jobs to Mexico and elsewhere, thus destroying the lives of tens of thousands of hard-working Americans. The glaring stupidity of this policy was that, when they eliminated the income of so many middle class families, who did they think was going to be able to afford to buy their cars? History will record this blunder in the same way it now writes about the French building the Maginot Line or how the Romans cluelessly poisoned their own water system with lethal lead in its pipes.</p><p>So here we are at the deathbed of General Motors. The company&#39;s body not yet cold, and I find myself filled with &#8212; dare I say it &#8212; joy. It is not the joy of revenge against a corporation that ruined my hometown and brought misery, divorce, alcoholism, homelessness, physical and mental debilitation, and drug addiction to the people I grew up with. Nor do I, obviously, claim any joy in knowing that 21,000 more GM workers will be told that they, too, are without a job.<br />But you and I and the rest of America now own a car company! I know, I know &#8212; who on earth wants to run a car company? Who among us wants $50 billion of our tax dollars thrown down the rat hole of still trying to save GM? Let&#39;s be clear about this: The only way to save GM is to kill GM. Saving our precious industrial infrastructure, though, is another matter and must be a top priority. If we allow the shutting down and tearing down of our auto plants, we will sorely wish we still had them when we realize that those factories could have built the alternative energy systems we now desperately need. And when we realize that the best way to transport ourselves is on light rail and bullet trains and cleaner buses, how will we do this if we&#39;ve allowed our industrial capacity and its skilled workforce to disappear?</p><p>Thus, as GM is &#8220;reorganized&#8221; by the federal government and the bankruptcy court, here is the plan I am asking President Obama to implement for the good of the workers, the GM communities, and the nation as a whole. Twenty years ago when I made &#8220;Roger &#038; Me,&#8221; I tried to warn people about what was ahead for General Motors. Had the power structure and the punditocracy listened, maybe much of this could have been avoided. Based on my track record, I request an honest and sincere consideration of the following suggestions:</p><p>1. Just as President Roosevelt did after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the President must tell the nation that we are at war and we must immediately convert our auto factories to factories that build mass transit vehicles and alternative energy devices. Within months in Flint in 1942, GM halted all car production and immediately used the assembly lines to build planes, tanks and machine guns. The conversion took no time at all. Everyone pitched in. The fascists were defeated.</p><p>We are now in a different kind of war &#8212; a war that we have conducted against the ecosystem and has been conducted by our very own corporate leaders. This current war has two fronts. One is headquartered in Detroit. The products built in the factories of GM, Ford and Chrysler are some of the greatest weapons of mass destruction responsible for global warming and the melting of our polar icecaps. The things we call &#8220;cars&#8221; may have been fun to drive, but they are like a million daggers into the heart of Mother Nature. To continue to build them would only lead to the ruin of our species and much of the planet.</p><p>The other front in this war is being waged by the oil companies against you and me. They are committed to fleecing us whenever they can, and they have been reckless stewards of the finite amount of oil that is located under the surface of the earth. They know they are sucking it bone dry. And like the lumber tycoons of the early 20th century who didn&#39;t give a damn about future generations as they tore down every forest they could get their hands on, these oil barons are not telling the public what they know to be true &#8212; that there are only a few more decades of useable oil on this planet. And as the end days of oil approach us, get ready for some very desperate people willing to kill and be killed just to get their hands on a gallon can of gasoline.</p><p>President Obama, now that he has taken control of GM, needs to convert the factories to new and needed uses immediately.</p><p>2. Don&#39;t put another $30 billion into the coffers of GM to build cars. Instead, use that money to keep the current workforce &#8212; and most of those who have been laid off &#8212; employed so that they can build the new modes of 21st century transportation. Let them start the conversion work now.</p><p>3. Announce that we will have bullet trains criss-crossing this country in the next five years. Japan is celebrating the 45th anniversary of its first bullet train this year. Now they have dozens of them. Average speed: 165 mph. Average time a train is late: under 30 seconds. They have had these high speed trains for nearly five decades &#8212; and we don&#39;t even have one! The fact that the technology already exists for us to go from New York to L.A. in 17 hours by train, and that we haven&#39;t used it, is criminal. Let&#39;s hire the unemployed to build the new high speed lines all over the country. Chicago to Detroit in less than two hours. Miami to DC in under 7 hours. Denver to Dallas in five and a half. This can be done and done now.</p><p>4. Initiate a program to put light rail mass transit lines in all our large and medium-sized cities. Build those trains in the GM factories. And hire local people everywhere to install and run this system.</p><p>5. For people in rural areas not served by the train lines, have the GM plants produce energy efficient clean buses.</p><p>6. For the time being, have some factories build hybrid or all-electric cars (and batteries). It will take a few years for people to get used to the new ways to transport ourselves, so if we&#39;re going to have automobiles, let&#39;s have kinder, gentler ones. We can be building these next month (do not believe anyone who tells you it will take years to retool the factories &#8212; that simply isn&#39;t true).</p><p>7. Transform some of the empty GM factories to facilities that build windmills, solar panels and other means of alternate forms of energy. We need tens of millions of solar panels right now. And there is an eager and skilled workforce who can build them.</p><p>8. Provide tax incentives for those who travel by hybrid car or bus or train. Also, credits for those who convert their home to alternative energy.</p><p>9. To help pay for this, impose a two-dollar tax on every gallon of gasoline. This will get people to switch to more energy saving cars or to use the new rail lines and rail cars the former autoworkers have built for them.</p><p>Well, that&#39;s a start. Please, please, please don&#39;t save GM so that a smaller version of it will simply do nothing more than build Chevys or Cadillacs. This is not a long-term solution. Don&#39;t throw bad money into a company whose tailpipe is malfunctioning, causing a strange odor to fill the car.</p><p>100 years ago this year, the founders of General Motors convinced the world to give up their horses and saddles and buggy whips to try a new form of transportation. Now it is time for us to say goodbye to the internal combustion engine. It seemed to serve us well for so long. We enjoyed the car hops at the A&#038;W. We made out in the front &#8212; and the back &#8212; seat. We watched movies on large outdoor screens, went to the races at NASCAR tracks across the country, and saw the Pacific Ocean for the first time through the window down Hwy. 1. And now it&#39;s over. It&#39;s a new day and a new century. The President &#8212; and the UAW &#8212; must seize this moment and create a big batch of lemonade from this very sour and sad lemon.</p><p>Yesterday, the last surviving person from the Titanic disaster passed away. She escaped certain death that night and went on to live another 97 years.</p><p>So can we survive our own Titanic in all the Flint Michigans of this country. 60% of GM is ours. I think we can do a better job.</p><p>Yours,<br />Michael Moore<br /><a href="mailto:MMFlint@aol.com" rel="nofollow">MMFlint@aol.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spirit_55z</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-334495</link> <dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:25:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-334495</guid> <description>LOL!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: HopeOverFear</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-209069</link> <dc:creator>HopeOverFear</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:37:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-209069</guid> <description>Goodbye, GM by Michael Moore&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Goodbye, GM&lt;br&gt;by Michael Moore&lt;br&gt;June 1, 2009&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I write this on the morning of the end of the once-mighty General Motors. By high noon, the President of the United States will have made it official: General Motors, as we know it, has been totaled.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I sit here in GM&#039;s birthplace, Flint, Michigan, I am surrounded by friends and family who are filled with anxiety about what will happen to them and to the town. Forty percent of the homes and businesses in the city have been abandoned. Imagine what it would be like if you lived in a city where almost every other house is empty. What would be your state of mind?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is with sad irony that the company which invented &quot;planned obsolescence&quot; -- the decision to build cars that would fall apart after a few years so that the customer would then have to buy a new one -- has now made itself obsolete. It refused to build automobiles that the public wanted, cars that got great gas mileage, were as safe as they could be, and were exceedingly comfortable to drive. Oh -- and that wouldn&#039;t start falling apart after two years. GM stubbornly fought environmental and safety regulations. Its executives arrogantly ignored the &quot;inferior&quot; Japanese and German cars, cars which would become the gold standard for automobile buyers. And it was hell-bent on punishing its unionized workforce, lopping off thousands of workers for no good reason other than to &quot;improve&quot; the short-term bottom line of the corporation. Beginning in the 1980s, when GM was posting record profits, it moved countless jobs to Mexico and elsewhere, thus destroying the lives of tens of thousands of hard-working Americans. The glaring stupidity of this policy was that, when they eliminated the income of so many middle class families, who did they think was going to be able to afford to buy their cars? History will record this blunder in the same way it now writes about the French building the Maginot Line or how the Romans cluelessly poisoned their own water system with lethal lead in its pipes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So here we are at the deathbed of General Motors. The company&#039;s body not yet cold, and I find myself filled with -- dare I say it -- joy. It is not the joy of revenge against a corporation that ruined my hometown and brought misery, divorce, alcoholism, homelessness, physical and mental debilitation, and drug addiction to the people I grew up with. Nor do I, obviously, claim any joy in knowing that 21,000 more GM workers will be told that they, too, are without a job.&lt;br&gt;But you and I and the rest of America now own a car company! I know, I know -- who on earth wants to run a car company? Who among us wants $50 billion of our tax dollars thrown down the rat hole of still trying to save GM? Let&#039;s be clear about this: The only way to save GM is to kill GM. Saving our precious industrial infrastructure, though, is another matter and must be a top priority. If we allow the shutting down and tearing down of our auto plants, we will sorely wish we still had them when we realize that those factories could have built the alternative energy systems we now desperately need. And when we realize that the best way to transport ourselves is on light rail and bullet trains and cleaner buses, how will we do this if we&#039;ve allowed our industrial capacity and its skilled workforce to disappear?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thus, as GM is &quot;reorganized&quot; by the federal government and the bankruptcy court, here is the plan I am asking President Obama to implement for the good of the workers, the GM communities, and the nation as a whole. Twenty years ago when I made &quot;Roger &amp; Me,&quot; I tried to warn people about what was ahead for General Motors. Had the power structure and the punditocracy listened, maybe much of this could have been avoided. Based on my track record, I request an honest and sincere consideration of the following suggestions:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Just as President Roosevelt did after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the President must tell the nation that we are at war and we must immediately convert our auto factories to factories that build mass transit vehicles and alternative energy devices. Within months in Flint in 1942, GM halted all car production and immediately used the assembly lines to build planes, tanks and machine guns. The conversion took no time at all. Everyone pitched in. The fascists were defeated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are now in a different kind of war -- a war that we have conducted against the ecosystem and has been conducted by our very own corporate leaders. This current war has two fronts. One is headquartered in Detroit. The products built in the factories of GM, Ford and Chrysler are some of the greatest weapons of mass destruction responsible for global warming and the melting of our polar icecaps. The things we call &quot;cars&quot; may have been fun to drive, but they are like a million daggers into the heart of Mother Nature. To continue to build them would only lead to the ruin of our species and much of the planet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other front in this war is being waged by the oil companies against you and me. They are committed to fleecing us whenever they can, and they have been reckless stewards of the finite amount of oil that is located under the surface of the earth. They know they are sucking it bone dry. And like the lumber tycoons of the early 20th century who didn&#039;t give a damn about future generations as they tore down every forest they could get their hands on, these oil barons are not telling the public what they know to be true -- that there are only a few more decades of useable oil on this planet. And as the end days of oil approach us, get ready for some very desperate people willing to kill and be killed just to get their hands on a gallon can of gasoline.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama, now that he has taken control of GM, needs to convert the factories to new and needed uses immediately.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Don&#039;t put another $30 billion into the coffers of GM to build cars. Instead, use that money to keep the current workforce -- and most of those who have been laid off -- employed so that they can build the new modes of 21st century transportation. Let them start the conversion work now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Announce that we will have bullet trains criss-crossing this country in the next five years. Japan is celebrating the 45th anniversary of its first bullet train this year. Now they have dozens of them. Average speed: 165 mph. Average time a train is late: under 30 seconds. They have had these high speed trains for nearly five decades -- and we don&#039;t even have one! The fact that the technology already exists for us to go from New York to L.A. in 17 hours by train, and that we haven&#039;t used it, is criminal. Let&#039;s hire the unemployed to build the new high speed lines all over the country. Chicago to Detroit in less than two hours. Miami to DC in under 7 hours. Denver to Dallas in five and a half. This can be done and done now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. Initiate a program to put light rail mass transit lines in all our large and medium-sized cities. Build those trains in the GM factories. And hire local people everywhere to install and run this system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5. For people in rural areas not served by the train lines, have the GM plants produce energy efficient clean buses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6. For the time being, have some factories build hybrid or all-electric cars (and batteries). It will take a few years for people to get used to the new ways to transport ourselves, so if we&#039;re going to have automobiles, let&#039;s have kinder, gentler ones. We can be building these next month (do not believe anyone who tells you it will take years to retool the factories -- that simply isn&#039;t true).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7. Transform some of the empty GM factories to facilities that build windmills, solar panels and other means of alternate forms of energy. We need tens of millions of solar panels right now. And there is an eager and skilled workforce who can build them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;8. Provide tax incentives for those who travel by hybrid car or bus or train. Also, credits for those who convert their home to alternative energy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;9. To help pay for this, impose a two-dollar tax on every gallon of gasoline. This will get people to switch to more energy saving cars or to use the new rail lines and rail cars the former autoworkers have built for them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, that&#039;s a start. Please, please, please don&#039;t save GM so that a smaller version of it will simply do nothing more than build Chevys or Cadillacs. This is not a long-term solution. Don&#039;t throw bad money into a company whose tailpipe is malfunctioning, causing a strange odor to fill the car.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;100 years ago this year, the founders of General Motors convinced the world to give up their horses and saddles and buggy whips to try a new form of transportation. Now it is time for us to say goodbye to the internal combustion engine. It seemed to serve us well for so long. We enjoyed the car hops at the A&amp;W. We made out in the front -- and the back -- seat. We watched movies on large outdoor screens, went to the races at NASCAR tracks across the country, and saw the Pacific Ocean for the first time through the window down Hwy. 1. And now it&#039;s over. It&#039;s a new day and a new century. The President -- and the UAW -- must seize this moment and create a big batch of lemonade from this very sour and sad lemon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yesterday, the last surviving person from the Titanic disaster passed away. She escaped certain death that night and went on to live another 97 years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So can we survive our own Titanic in all the Flint Michigans of this country. 60% of GM is ours. I think we can do a better job.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yours,&lt;br&gt;Michael Moore&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:MMFlint@aol.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MMFlint@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye, GM by Michael Moore</p><p>Goodbye, GM<br />by Michael Moore<br />June 1, 2009</p><p>I write this on the morning of the end of the once-mighty General Motors. By high noon, the President of the United States will have made it official: General Motors, as we know it, has been totaled.</p><p>As I sit here in GM&#39;s birthplace, Flint, Michigan, I am surrounded by friends and family who are filled with anxiety about what will happen to them and to the town. Forty percent of the homes and businesses in the city have been abandoned. Imagine what it would be like if you lived in a city where almost every other house is empty. What would be your state of mind?</p><p>It is with sad irony that the company which invented &#8220;planned obsolescence&#8221; &#8212; the decision to build cars that would fall apart after a few years so that the customer would then have to buy a new one &#8212; has now made itself obsolete. It refused to build automobiles that the public wanted, cars that got great gas mileage, were as safe as they could be, and were exceedingly comfortable to drive. Oh &#8212; and that wouldn&#39;t start falling apart after two years. GM stubbornly fought environmental and safety regulations. Its executives arrogantly ignored the &#8220;inferior&#8221; Japanese and German cars, cars which would become the gold standard for automobile buyers. And it was hell-bent on punishing its unionized workforce, lopping off thousands of workers for no good reason other than to &#8220;improve&#8221; the short-term bottom line of the corporation. Beginning in the 1980s, when GM was posting record profits, it moved countless jobs to Mexico and elsewhere, thus destroying the lives of tens of thousands of hard-working Americans. The glaring stupidity of this policy was that, when they eliminated the income of so many middle class families, who did they think was going to be able to afford to buy their cars? History will record this blunder in the same way it now writes about the French building the Maginot Line or how the Romans cluelessly poisoned their own water system with lethal lead in its pipes.</p><p>So here we are at the deathbed of General Motors. The company&#39;s body not yet cold, and I find myself filled with &#8212; dare I say it &#8212; joy. It is not the joy of revenge against a corporation that ruined my hometown and brought misery, divorce, alcoholism, homelessness, physical and mental debilitation, and drug addiction to the people I grew up with. Nor do I, obviously, claim any joy in knowing that 21,000 more GM workers will be told that they, too, are without a job.<br />But you and I and the rest of America now own a car company! I know, I know &#8212; who on earth wants to run a car company? Who among us wants $50 billion of our tax dollars thrown down the rat hole of still trying to save GM? Let&#39;s be clear about this: The only way to save GM is to kill GM. Saving our precious industrial infrastructure, though, is another matter and must be a top priority. If we allow the shutting down and tearing down of our auto plants, we will sorely wish we still had them when we realize that those factories could have built the alternative energy systems we now desperately need. And when we realize that the best way to transport ourselves is on light rail and bullet trains and cleaner buses, how will we do this if we&#39;ve allowed our industrial capacity and its skilled workforce to disappear?</p><p>Thus, as GM is &#8220;reorganized&#8221; by the federal government and the bankruptcy court, here is the plan I am asking President Obama to implement for the good of the workers, the GM communities, and the nation as a whole. Twenty years ago when I made &#8220;Roger &#038; Me,&#8221; I tried to warn people about what was ahead for General Motors. Had the power structure and the punditocracy listened, maybe much of this could have been avoided. Based on my track record, I request an honest and sincere consideration of the following suggestions:</p><p>1. Just as President Roosevelt did after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the President must tell the nation that we are at war and we must immediately convert our auto factories to factories that build mass transit vehicles and alternative energy devices. Within months in Flint in 1942, GM halted all car production and immediately used the assembly lines to build planes, tanks and machine guns. The conversion took no time at all. Everyone pitched in. The fascists were defeated.</p><p>We are now in a different kind of war &#8212; a war that we have conducted against the ecosystem and has been conducted by our very own corporate leaders. This current war has two fronts. One is headquartered in Detroit. The products built in the factories of GM, Ford and Chrysler are some of the greatest weapons of mass destruction responsible for global warming and the melting of our polar icecaps. The things we call &#8220;cars&#8221; may have been fun to drive, but they are like a million daggers into the heart of Mother Nature. To continue to build them would only lead to the ruin of our species and much of the planet.</p><p>The other front in this war is being waged by the oil companies against you and me. They are committed to fleecing us whenever they can, and they have been reckless stewards of the finite amount of oil that is located under the surface of the earth. They know they are sucking it bone dry. And like the lumber tycoons of the early 20th century who didn&#39;t give a damn about future generations as they tore down every forest they could get their hands on, these oil barons are not telling the public what they know to be true &#8212; that there are only a few more decades of useable oil on this planet. And as the end days of oil approach us, get ready for some very desperate people willing to kill and be killed just to get their hands on a gallon can of gasoline.</p><p>President Obama, now that he has taken control of GM, needs to convert the factories to new and needed uses immediately.</p><p>2. Don&#39;t put another $30 billion into the coffers of GM to build cars. Instead, use that money to keep the current workforce &#8212; and most of those who have been laid off &#8212; employed so that they can build the new modes of 21st century transportation. Let them start the conversion work now.</p><p>3. Announce that we will have bullet trains criss-crossing this country in the next five years. Japan is celebrating the 45th anniversary of its first bullet train this year. Now they have dozens of them. Average speed: 165 mph. Average time a train is late: under 30 seconds. They have had these high speed trains for nearly five decades &#8212; and we don&#39;t even have one! The fact that the technology already exists for us to go from New York to L.A. in 17 hours by train, and that we haven&#39;t used it, is criminal. Let&#39;s hire the unemployed to build the new high speed lines all over the country. Chicago to Detroit in less than two hours. Miami to DC in under 7 hours. Denver to Dallas in five and a half. This can be done and done now.</p><p>4. Initiate a program to put light rail mass transit lines in all our large and medium-sized cities. Build those trains in the GM factories. And hire local people everywhere to install and run this system.</p><p>5. For people in rural areas not served by the train lines, have the GM plants produce energy efficient clean buses.</p><p>6. For the time being, have some factories build hybrid or all-electric cars (and batteries). It will take a few years for people to get used to the new ways to transport ourselves, so if we&#39;re going to have automobiles, let&#39;s have kinder, gentler ones. We can be building these next month (do not believe anyone who tells you it will take years to retool the factories &#8212; that simply isn&#39;t true).</p><p>7. Transform some of the empty GM factories to facilities that build windmills, solar panels and other means of alternate forms of energy. We need tens of millions of solar panels right now. And there is an eager and skilled workforce who can build them.</p><p>8. Provide tax incentives for those who travel by hybrid car or bus or train. Also, credits for those who convert their home to alternative energy.</p><p>9. To help pay for this, impose a two-dollar tax on every gallon of gasoline. This will get people to switch to more energy saving cars or to use the new rail lines and rail cars the former autoworkers have built for them.</p><p>Well, that&#39;s a start. Please, please, please don&#39;t save GM so that a smaller version of it will simply do nothing more than build Chevys or Cadillacs. This is not a long-term solution. Don&#39;t throw bad money into a company whose tailpipe is malfunctioning, causing a strange odor to fill the car.</p><p>100 years ago this year, the founders of General Motors convinced the world to give up their horses and saddles and buggy whips to try a new form of transportation. Now it is time for us to say goodbye to the internal combustion engine. It seemed to serve us well for so long. We enjoyed the car hops at the A&#038;W. We made out in the front &#8212; and the back &#8212; seat. We watched movies on large outdoor screens, went to the races at NASCAR tracks across the country, and saw the Pacific Ocean for the first time through the window down Hwy. 1. And now it&#39;s over. It&#39;s a new day and a new century. The President &#8212; and the UAW &#8212; must seize this moment and create a big batch of lemonade from this very sour and sad lemon.</p><p>Yesterday, the last surviving person from the Titanic disaster passed away. She escaped certain death that night and went on to live another 97 years.</p><p>So can we survive our own Titanic in all the Flint Michigans of this country. 60% of GM is ours. I think we can do a better job.</p><p>Yours,<br />Michael Moore<br /><a href="mailto:MMFlint@aol.com" rel="nofollow">MMFlint@aol.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spirit_55z</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-209031</link> <dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:25:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-209031</guid> <description>LOL!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NMP</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208953</link> <dc:creator>NMP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:47:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208953</guid> <description>I can&#039;t figure out to cut and paste on this phone.  If you go the  &lt;br&gt;official whitehouse photos on fliker, you&#039;ll see it at the top.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#39;t figure out to cut and paste on this phone.  If you go the <br />official whitehouse photos on fliker, you&#39;ll see it at the top.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Justice58</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208911</link> <dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:47:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208911</guid> <description>I hear ya!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jealous because a man takes his wife on a date.... She can kick rocks!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear ya!</p><p>Jealous because a man takes his wife on a date&#8230;. She can kick rocks!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Plantsmantx</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208904</link> <dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:14:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208904</guid> <description>Let me apologize in advance...it&#039;s beyond corny, and I tried to resist, but I just can&#039;t help it:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“As President Obama prepares to wing into Manhattan’s theater district on Air Force One to take in a Broadway show, GM is preparing to file bankruptcy and families across America continue to struggle to pay their bills,” RNC spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said in an email this afternoon.&lt;br&gt;That’s not all from Gitcho. She then added a snitty, “Have a great Saturday evening — even if you’re not jetting off somewhere at taxpayer expense.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gitcho ass outta here!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me apologize in advance&#8230;it&#39;s beyond corny, and I tried to resist, but I just can&#39;t help it:</p><p>“As President Obama prepares to wing into Manhattan’s theater district on Air Force One to take in a Broadway show, GM is preparing to file bankruptcy and families across America continue to struggle to pay their bills,” RNC spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said in an email this afternoon.<br />That’s not all from Gitcho. She then added a snitty, “Have a great Saturday evening — even if you’re not jetting off somewhere at taxpayer expense.”</p><p>Gitcho ass outta here!</p><p>Sorry.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208899</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:01:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208899</guid> <description>If you can find a pic of it, you know I&#039;ll post it. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can find a pic of it, you know I&#39;ll post it. :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spirit_55z</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208884</link> <dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:13:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208884</guid> <description>Peep, PEEP!  LOL!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peep, PEEP!  LOL!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wordsmith</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208874</link> <dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:01:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208874</guid> <description>Uh-hum....doncha mean - &quot;a freaking peep?&quot;   I swear I&#039;ve been staring at that wondering if it&#039;s MY eyes!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rachel Madwoman.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know it won&#039;t surely be mentioned by the Greenspan Klan, or Morning I-killed-an-intern Joe; we&#039;ll see if anyone else has the balls.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh-hum&#8230;.doncha mean &#8211; &#8220;a freaking peep?&#8221;   I swear I&#39;ve been staring at that wondering if it&#39;s MY eyes!</p><p>Rachel Madwoman&#8230;..</p><p>You know it won&#39;t surely be mentioned by the Greenspan Klan, or Morning I-killed-an-intern Joe; we&#39;ll see if anyone else has the balls.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: heartsandflowers</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208867</link> <dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:28:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208867</guid> <description>My weekly Award of Shame is for all the white men with a &quot;conservative&quot; agenda who are pissed off right now!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actsoffaithinloveandlife.blogspot.com/2009/05/youre-so-lame-award-of-shame-white-men.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://actsoffaithinloveandlife.blogspot.com/20...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My weekly Award of Shame is for all the white men with a &#8220;conservative&#8221; agenda who are pissed off right now!</p><p><a href="http://actsoffaithinloveandlife.blogspot.com/2009/05/youre-so-lame-award-of-shame-white-men.html" rel="nofollow">http://actsoffaithinloveandlife.blogspot.com/20&#8230;</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spirit_55z</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208859</link> <dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:12:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208859</guid> <description>Not a freaking peak will you hear. I&#039;d be shocked, Justice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Check him out tomorrow.   See if   Morning Joke, Ms. Andrea Greedyspan, Mr. Ed, Tweety Bird, K.O. or Rachel Madwoman will mention it or ask uncle Pat what up with that CRIMINAL director of yours?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a freaking peak will you hear. I&#39;d be shocked, Justice.</p><p>Check him out tomorrow.   See if   Morning Joke, Ms. Andrea Greedyspan, Mr. Ed, Tweety Bird, K.O. or Rachel Madwoman will mention it or ask uncle Pat what up with that CRIMINAL director of yours?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lamh32</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/05/afternoon-open-thread-52/comment-page-1/#comment-208856</link> <dc:creator>lamh32</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=11770#comment-208856</guid> <description>A commenter over at Baloon Juice discusses a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=22002&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;personal encounter with Dr Tiller:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Commenter deekaa6 on his experiences with Dr. George Tiller:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In 1994 my wife and I found out that she was pregnant. The pregnancy was difficult and unusually uncomfortable but her doctor repeatedly told her things were fine. Sometime early in the 8th month my wife, an RN who at the time was working in an infertility clinic asked the Dr. she was working for what he thought of her discomfort. He examined her and said that he couldn’t be certain but thought that she might be having twins. We were thrilled and couldn’t wait to get a new sonogram that hopefully would confirm his thoughts. Two days later our joy was turned to unspeakable sadness when the new sonogram showed conjoined twins. Conjoined twins alone is not what was so difficult but the way they were joined meant that at best only one child would survive the surgery to separate them and the survivor would more than likely live a brief and painful life filled with surgery and organ transplants. We were advised that our options were to deliver into the world a child who’s life would be filled with horrible pain and suffering or fly out to Wichita Kansas and to terminate the pregnancy under the direction of Dr. George Tiller.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We made an informed decision to go to Kansas. One can only imagine the pain borne by a woman who happily carries a child for 8 months only to find out near the end of term that the children were not to be and that she had to make the decision to terminate the pregnancy and go against everything she had been taught to believe was right. This was what my wife had to do. Dr. Tiller is a true American hero. The nightmare of our decision and the aftermath was only made bearable by the warmth and compassion of Dr. Tiller and his remarkable staff. Dr. Tiller understood that this decision was the most difficult thing that a woman could ever decide and he took the time to educate us and guide us along with the other two couples who at the time were being forced to make the same decision after discovering that they too were carrying children impacted by horrible fetal anomalies. I could describe in great detail the procedures and the pain and suffering that everyone is subjected to in these situations. However, that is not the point of the post. We can all imagine that this is not something that we would wish on anyone. The point is that the pain and suffering were only mitigated by the compassion and competence of Dr. George Tiller and his staff. We are all diminished today for a host of reasons but most of all because a man of great compassion and courage has been lost to the world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commenter over at Baloon Juice discusses a <a href="http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=22002" rel="nofollow">personal encounter with Dr Tiller:</a></p><p><blockquote>Commenter deekaa6 on his experiences with Dr. George Tiller:</p><p><blockquote>In 1994 my wife and I found out that she was pregnant. The pregnancy was difficult and unusually uncomfortable but her doctor repeatedly told her things were fine. Sometime early in the 8th month my wife, an RN who at the time was working in an infertility clinic asked the Dr. she was working for what he thought of her discomfort. He examined her and said that he couldn’t be certain but thought that she might be having twins. We were thrilled and couldn’t wait to get a new sonogram that hopefully would confirm his thoughts. Two days later our joy was turned to unspeakable sadness when the new sonogram showed conjoined twins. Conjoined twins alone is not what was so difficult but the way they were joined meant that at best only one child would survive the surgery to separate them and the survivor would more than likely live a brief and painful life filled with surgery and organ transplants. We were advised that our options were to deliver into the world a child who’s life would be filled with horrible pain and suffering or fly out to Wichita Kansas and to terminate the pregnancy under the direction of Dr. George Tiller.</p><p>We made an informed decision to go to Kansas. One can only imagine the pain borne by a woman who happily carries a child for 8 months only to find out near the end of term that the children were not to be and that she had to make the decision to terminate the pregnancy and go against everything she had been taught to believe was right. This was what my wife had to do. Dr. Tiller is a true American hero. The nightmare of our decision and the aftermath was only made bearable by the warmth and compassion of Dr. Tiller and his remarkable staff. Dr. Tiller understood that this decision was the most difficult thing that a woman could ever decide and he took the time to educate us and guide us along with the other two couples who at the time were being forced to make the same decision after discovering that they too were carrying children impacted by horrible fetal anomalies. I could describe in great detail the procedures and the pain and suffering that everyone is subjected to in these situations. However, that is not the point of the post. We can all imagine that this is not something that we would wish on anyone. The point is that the pain and suffering were only mitigated by the compassion and competence of Dr. George Tiller and his staff. We are all diminished today for a host of reasons but most of all because a man of great compassion and courage has been lost to the world.</p></blockquote></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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