Afternoon Open Thread

1 May 2009 Author: rikyrah

Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton slaps Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) around (Video)
“We want your constructive criticism, we want your feedback,” said Clinton. “But President Obama won the election. He beat me in a primary, in which he put forth a different approach, and he is now our president. And we all want our president, no matter of which party, to succeed, especially in such a perilous time.” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Drop those links. Engage in debate. Give us trivia and gossip too.

And continue to have a peaceful day.

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rikyrah

EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP!!!

Miranda

SMH..........

Rep. Steve King calls Black and Hispanic Congressional Caucuses ‘separatist groups.’

Yesterday, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) took to the House floor for an hour-long speech consisting of tired denunciations of Obama shaking hands with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and more hysterical complaints about how new hate crime legislation protects gays. During his tirade, King decided to direct part of his vitriol at the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, calling both organizations "separatist groups."
Video: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/01/king-minori...

rikyrah

Now, Miranda, tell me..how does one link Hugo Chavez with hate crime legislation and homosexuals, then wind up at the CBC, and CHC?

I'm asking for you to give me a logical map route.

Miranda

Oh.. you need a logical map??...you're just not good with republican directions...see you're in Chicago, let's say you wanna come to Atlanta:

First (oh, make sure you have your passport, that you've had all your shots, some anti-venom, a first aid kit, a thick coat, a tank top, hiking boots, some good walking shoes and that your will is updated)...ok...take a flight from Chicago to Vancouver..then take the bus from Vancouver to Anchorage, now, you have to walk (or hitch) from Anchorage to the outer most island of Alaska (where you can see Russia)...now stowaway on one of the ships that frequently goes out close to Russia..then when you're close enough,JUMP! swim to Russia...once there, see "Yuri" (he'll know who you are)....he'll hook you up with a caravan to China, where you'll have to ride a donkey thru Mongolia...once you get to Kazakstan, you'll hike through the mountains to the Ukraine...then you'll have to walk or hitch your way to Austria...then you bike to France...then take a transatlantic flight from Paris to Toronto....take the train to Buffalo...then rent a car to NYC....then take another flight to Charlotte NC...then connect to Atlanta. Shouldn't take you more than a year or so.
That's kinda how Rep. King got from Chavez and hate crimes to the CBC. For republicans, the shortest distance between two points - is a maze.

Val

Brilliant

carolinagirl

You are so wrong for this. LMAO!

rikyrah

I'll say it....

FUCK Steve King.

rikyrah

Angela Merkel Lingerie Ad Shocks Germany
digg Huffpost -
Angela Merkel Lingerie Ad Shocks Germany

Before our current President, I would have said,

' would they have done this to a MALE President?'

Only have to look at Washingtonian Magazine to realize, YES.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/01/angela...

Miranda

AFP reports that the ad is for an underwear company that is offering a $7 discount on new undies to anyone who trades in an old pair. The slogan of the campaign is, "The country needs new undies."

ummmmm....what are they gonna do with the old used undies?

spirit_55z

Damn, they photo shopped Merkel in bra and panties...... I, I... I'm speechless.

lamh32

HUGH JACKMAN on OPRAH right now!!!

rikyrah

Lawdy Lawdy Lawdy!!

I luv me some shirtless Hugh..LOL

lamh32

Girl....not just shirtless....as Bernie Mac used to say "buck-ed nak-ed". Oprah was all in a twitter.

spirit_55z

Stop it!!! I can't watch it from my office desk!

lamh32

FYI, they just revealed one scene where is literally running around nakkidd! And he said it was really ALL HIM, to double!

Angelar

fyi Desiree Rogers.......

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/photo-rel...

Photo Release -- Summer Issue of WSJ. Magazine Features Exclusive Interview With White House Social Secretary Desiree Rogers

Last update: 2:17 p.m. EDT May 1, 2009

NEW YORK, May 1, 2009 (GlobeNewswire via COMTEX) -- The Wall Street Journal today unveiled the summer installment of its glossy magazine, WSJ., centering on American style and changing lifestyle landscapes. The cover story -- "Brand Obama" -- features an exclusive, candid interview with White House Social Secretary Desiree Rogers, including photographs of Ms. Rogers exclusively for WSJ. by Marc Hom.
A photo accompanying this release is available at http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/prs/?pkgi...

"Desiree Rogers is at the center of one of the most closely watched presidencies of our time, and we were able to capture intriguing insight into the challenges and opportunities for what may lie ahead over the next four years with Brand Obama," said Tina Gaudoin, editor-in-chief of WSJ....."

spirit_55z

That cover photo of Desiree is FIERCE.

lamh32

TGIF ya'll let's have some fun.

Question 1: What was your first concert?

Question 2: What was the worst concert you'd ever been to?

Question 3: Who woudl you pay to see in concert who you haven't seen?

RobM

1)Street festivals first paid Stevie Wonder
2)Best Bob Marley in the Riveria theatre in Chicago"77 I never saw the stage cause of the smoke Worst concerts in the Wachovia Center in Philadlephia the sound was just horrendous
3)The Roots

djchefron

First was Sly and the Family Stone when I was a kid
Worst Well when I worked at the 50yardline in Chicago they used to booked rap acts so take your pick
I would love to see an all star diva show Pattie La belle,Diana Ross and Cher with and encore of Barbara Streisand

RobM

Did you go to the one where he didn't show up and there was a riot?

Miranda

First: The Gap Band, Dazz Band and Anita Baker - a festival in B'ham, AL

Best: not sure - its either Aretha or Luther (Maze opened for him - YEAH)

Worst: Its really wasn't bad, its that I can't remember much - it was a Parliament concert - outdoors - and everybody including the cops was HIGH - I caught a contact and that's pretty much all I remember

Most want to see: Prince but I want him to sing his nasty songs

NMP

First: The Jacksons

Best: Every Maze concert and Whitney Houston

Worse: A rap concert. Can't even remember the act

Most want to see: Barbara Streisand

EdnaMae

1. Prince was my first one, right when he got started in the nose bleed section of a smoky hall.

2. Diana Ross in LA, she was just a hot mess and not worth a single penny.

3. Mr Barry White if he were alive, or Elton John if he was affordable and only id his old stuff.

lamh32

Hey,

I actually saw Elton John in Las Vegas this past October. I must admit, I was not that keen on going. I mean, I liked some Elton John songs, but I wasn't some rabid fan or nothing. Well I am glad I went, becasue it was great, my friend and I were 2 of the 4 Africans americans there, but still great.

Along the same lines, so far the best concert I've been to was George Michael's last U.S. tour. He sung all my fav songs (except Wake me Up, my friends wanted to hear "Last Christmas" in July?), and he sounded fabulous. No background dancers, nothing so flashy, just hime a 5 person backup singers (all Big & Black and belting it out), his band and him. It was great.

lamh32

I'll start off.

1. I'm embarassed to say that my first official concert was a Ricky Martin concert at the New Orleans Arena, I was 25. (I was pretty poor through H.S. so concerts didn't happen much)

2. Had to be the Dallas Blues Festival. I am not a blues fan, but my friend forced me to go. It wasn't thatbad, but I really don't want to repeat it.

3. Stevie Wonder, Prince...

Myth

Are you going to see Steve Harvey?

spirit_55z

First- The Commodores with Lionell Ritchie and all dem Afros!

Best- PRINCE

Worse - Some Go Go band outta DC

Haven't seen, plan to see- Sting (STANG)

lamh32

MEDIA ALERT!!!

OBAMA on CNN "officially introducing" his new cabinet members and presenting his complete cabinet

Justice58

List of possible replacements for Justice David Souter

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/01...

* Judge Sonia Sotomayor, 2nd Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals
Born 1954. Has been on the appeals bench since 1998, named a district court judge by Bush in 1992, so would have some bipartisan support. Moderate-liberal views and Hispanic heritage considered big pluses. She is near the top of many people's list.</b.

* Elena Kagan, Solicitor General
Born 1960. Served in Clinton White House in various legal and domestic policy positions from 1995-99. Former clerk for Justice Marshall. Has no judicial experience, and may be considered too young for the Court. Nominated for an appeals court seat in 1999, but Republicans held it up without holding hearings. A former dean of Harvard Law, where she named several conservatives to the faculty, earning her favorable respect.</b.

* Judge Diane Wood, 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals
Born 1950. She has sat on the bench since 1995. Considered moderate-liberal, well-regarded by many. Former clerk for Justice Blackmun, and served in both President Reagan and President Clinton Justice Departments. Possible consensus pick.

* Gov. Deval Patrick, Massachusetts
Born 1956. Elected governor in 2006. Boston native who went to Harvard, and later worked for the NAACP. Former assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights under President Clinton. Legal sources say he might not want the job or even be considered until his term ends in early 2111.

* Judge Merrick Garland, DC Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals
Born 1952. Possible compromise choice. Considered a moderate. Served as former associate deputy attorney general and headed a probe of Oklahoma City bombing. His age is considered a political plus. Being a white male could hurt his chances if the president seeks diversity.

* Judge Ann Claire Williams, 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals
Born 1949. Another possible consensus pick. Nominated, at the age of 35, to the U.S. District Court in 1985 by President Reagan, and then elevated to her current job by President Clinton. She is a labeled by many as a moderate who would be the first African-American woman on the Supreme Court. A former inner-city teacher in Detroit, she became the third African-American woman appeals court judge.

More...

rikyrah

You know things are bad when a Horn-Rimmed Handkerchief Head like Capehart is calling you out:

Michael 'Snoop Dogg' Steele

You know, the more I hear Republican National Committee Chairman Michael "That's How We Roll" Steele pepper his pronouncements with hip-hop parlance, the more I'm reminded of those ill-fated commercials for Chrysler starring the unlikely duo of former Chrysler chairman Lee Iacocca and rapper Snoop Dogg. It was part of the car company's strategy to reach out to potential urban customers. And look how well that worked out.

Does anyone else find the symbolism a little too rich? Exchange Snoop for Steele and Iacocca for a Republican Party that doesn't understand what the heck the man driving the RNC is saying -- or doing.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2...

NMP

Girl, I didn't know Windsor knot had it in him.

Justice58

Is dat Capehart? lmao!

AM2k9

Pence is such an idiot. Im convinced that to be a Republican politician being a moron is a pre-condition Funny thing's that Chavez was elected with 60+ percentage of the vote. Also funny is the fact that mike pence calls himself a christian. I wonder how many people of color attend his congregation on Sundays?

EdnaMae

Pence is just another GOP robot, he only repeats what the GOP talking points of the day are and should get a smack down weekly when he's asking such nonsense.

As for him and the rest of those God fearing GOP Christians, I wonder if they ever deal with any black Christians on a Sunday, I would somehow not think so, since their idea of Christianity is that its good for them and those who look, talk and act as bland as they do.

Angelar

Pence is the same guy who went to Iraq with John McCain and came home claiming you could go to an open market there and be just as safe as if you were in the U.S. Of course, he barely made that statement when the pictures came out showing how much security Pence & McCain had on their "shopping spree"! They were trying to claim how successful the invasion of Iraq was and how free the people were. Yup, same liar.

Luxuriate

Steele agrees with a white caller that Obama is the magic negro

Seriously! when are we going to call this fool out
He is such a disgrace

I pity his family for real
Can you imagine them trying everyday to defend his dumb ass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsZylIm68gs

spirit_55z

While Steele is spewing it out of one orifice, the GOP are sticking it up another.

Justice58

Isn't he sad!

GreenLadyHere

rikyrah: FROM the PRESIDENT [on Justice Souter]:

+ Confirms Souter retirement

President Obama made a surprise cameo at the daily press briefing to confirm the retirement of Justice David Souter. ...

As he bumped his press secretary from the podium, Obama joked that when a job needs to be done, “you gotta do it yourself.”

The president said he’d just gotten off the phone with Souter, whom he praised for his “integrity, equanimity and compassion and called a "fair-minded and independent judge”

He said he hopes to have a new justice in place by October at the beginning of the fall session of the Supreme Court. In Souter’s replacement, he said he is looking for “someone who understands justice is not just about some abstract legal theory,” but about how laws affect the daily lives of Americans.

EMPATHY! Shares RESPECT 4 Constitutional VALUES. Sharp independent mind! INTEGRITY!! Dedicated 2 the "rules of law!" Uses law to serve people (fairly).

HE IS THE MAN!! :>) :>) A GOOD MAN!! :>)

Luxuriate

http://versionista.com/pub/15881/1/12/6:4/
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/01/obama-walks...

I get irritated by stuff like this

Justice58

Breaking...

President Obama on replacing Justice Souter:

The President will be looking for someone dedicated to the rule of law!

GreenLadyHere

Justice58: "WHYCOME" I'm thinkin' that Justice Souter had in mind 2 go out WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS ELECTED!!? :>)

Justice58

Same thought, GreenLady!

Some people may or may not be in agreement with me but I am hoping for a black woman. But at the same time, so happy our President has the chance to choose. Woo Hoo!

Luxuriate

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/3052254...

miss_opinion

I think that's called having your ass handed to you.

spirit_55z

Who Shredded Our Safety Net?
What starts with "f," ends with "k," and means "screw your workers"?
That's right—401(k).
—By James Ridgeway

May/June 2009
LIKE MOST PEOPLE whose quality of life depends upon the fluctuations of an IRA, 401(k), 403(b), or other acronym-soup retirement account, I was born long before such things existed. It's easy to forget, now that more than half of us have been made shareholders, that until well past the middle of the 20th century, most people had nothing to do with the stock market: Wall Street was for the wealthy and the reckless. It was a world most Americans didn't understand and, after 1929, didn't trust. Some lucky people had pensions, but few had the privilege of even thinking about retirement. They were too busy trying to survive the present—which in my childhood meant the Great Depression and then World War II.

I spent the war years in Washington, DC, where my father had a minor position in the Roosevelt administration. After school, my brother and I spent most of our time running around the streets, trying to get the air-raid wardens to give us a scrap of nylon parachute, or maybe even one of their cast-off World War I helmets, before the blackout drill began. One evening, my mother called us into the dining room and solemnly presented each of us with a $25 war bond. That was my first contact with the world of investment. Compared to a piece of parachute, it was a real downer.

Sixty-five years later it's a downer still, as I contemplate my future at a time of deep recession with no pension and a depleted 401(k). And it occurs to me that the very notion of a comfortable, paid retirement may turn out to have been a temporary phenomenon, with a life span almost precisely the same as my own.

Read on...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/05/who...

fredman1

The age of the private pension is almost over. My company dumped pensions about 5 years ago. New hires do not get a pension. They get self directed retirement savings plans in which the employee and the company put in money every month but that is the sole liability of the company. I will not get a pension. The company says that they will give me a cash payout when I retire.
One of the reasons that the auto companies are in such sad shape is the 30 and out pension system where an employee that started on the line at the age of 18 could retire with a full pension and medical insurance at the age of 48 (30 years). If the employee lived to age 74, the company would have to provide pension money for 26 years!!! This was all well and good when the auto companies had a monopoly on the US market, but now it is the kiss of death.
Public pensions have trillions of dollar of unfunded or underfunded liabilities.

GreenLadyHere

rikyrah: 2 THINGS re Mr. PRESIDENT: :>)

+ PRESIDENT Obama meets new Americans VIDEO

+ PRESIDENT Obama focuses on flu VIDEO

President Obama had one rule for reporters visiting his Cabinet meeting Friday.
"No questions about the Supreme Court," the president said.

Seated next to Hillary Clinton and Bill Gates, Obama focused his brief remarks on swine flu, saying he is proud of the work being done by the Departments of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services.

"We've now brought in the cavalry with Secretary Sebelius," he said.
The president played down the possibility that the flu could become a devastating pandemic, but said his administration was taking all necessary precautions.

"We don't know for certain that this will end up being more serious" than other seasonal flus, he said, adding that his team was "ensuring that in the worst-case scenario, this can be handled appropriately.”

LEADERSHIP!! :>)

fredman1

It will take at least 6 months to develop and implement a swine flu vaccine. By then the virus may have mutated. The only thing we can really do is hope that the flu is not virulent. Tamiflu and amantadine are of only limited efficacy.

spirit_55z

This is true.

BlackAmericanPrincess

Hillary bout to make me respect her! She still gets the side eye for her campaign tactics but I aint mad at her for making Pence look like a straight up DUNCE...

NO_ID

Hillary shut his ass down so fly he couldn't barely pick his face back up from the floor when she was done LMAO!

Val

OMG!!!! Thanks for the clip Rikyrah. RAOTFLMAO. For that my SOS gets a donation from me.

lolololol whoooowhhhhhooooooo bbwwwaaaahhhaaaaaa.

spirit_55z

BWA HA HA HA!!!!!!!! Hillary went straight up GANGSTA on'em

Sorry, I can't peel off no Benjamins for her, though.

Val

I watched the video at least 8 times already.

isonprize

I ain't go THAT far.... LOLOL

Val

I did it. That tickled me so bad. :-) Best $50 bucks I ever spent.

claudia_m

Also, in other cultural/music news - just heard on Twitter today that Sade is in the studio recording a new album.

Say it with me: Woohoo!!!!!!!!!

NO_ID

wow really i was just wondering about her..she's 50 this year isn't that unbelieveable...

SDG

Yay! Love her to bits. She can take a decade off and the love is still there.

Justice58

Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Webb

LMAO, Woohoo but I'll believe that shyt when I see(hear) it. Maxwell's album was supposed to be out 3-4 years ago. Al B. Sure been working on an album too, Nite and Day Part 2, LMAO.

Funny that you should mention Sade...I remember how she got into trouble (speeding/reckless driving) in Jamaica several years ago and today, Usain Bolt's getting in trouble too.

spirit_55z

Oh Shit! I swear when my husband took me to Jamaica to meet his dad, I laid down in the back seat of the car the whole 2 weeks we were there.

The roads to Kingston are narrow as a pencil and some folks were driving like they're on high speed rail.

Dang, Bolt looks live he's got toe fungus.. Eww

Justice58

Spirit,

That is too scary driving fast on narrow roads! Whew Lawd! I'd die from fright!

Miranda

You a fool! LMAO!!! Hell....isn't DeAngelo working on a new one too? LOL

rikyrah

WHOO HOO!!!

spirit_55z

WOOOHOOO!! Sweet, Smooth, Suave, SADE!

isonprize

DAMN. Where has SHE been?!?!?!?

spirit_55z

i'ont know! Here's some Sade for Friday afternoon!

Your Love is King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuVVMkuWnng

Lovers Rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay6LCPrcBlU

Never as good as the first time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCihQPnma64

claudia_m

Yay!!! Let's hope somebody leaks something from the new stuff. Although she could sing the dictionary and I would still buy it.

Muzikal203

I just want Chrisette Michele's album to drop already!

Miranda

That girl is da TRUTH. I love her! She needs to stop playing and gone be straight up jazz for me.

claudia_m

**hides eyes** I had to google Michele, since I had never heard of her before! But she's good; great voice for someone who looks so young!

Muzikal203

Seriously? Get her first Album, I hipped my friend to it, and she absolutely loves it.

NMP

Golden and Good Girl are my joints!

claudia_m

I appreciate the recommendation, Muzikal203 - will do.

allamr18

Epiphany has to be one of my favorite songs right now

Miranda

I love it too....Its the first cut on my "You Aint Bout Shit" mixed CD I'm compiling right now!

claudia_m

Good afternoon, JJP!

Literary Obama has a post up about the latest novel that President Obama is reading (when he's not surrounded by briefing books, that is).

Does simply hearing about a book that Barack Obama is reading pique your interest? How likely are you to pick up a copy of your own?

Enjoy the weekend, everybody.

GreenLadyHere

rikyrah: FINALLY - - - A 4-REAL CONCESSION!!

Let's see - - 'bout 10 months L8R!? BUT - - who's countin'!? :>) :>)

spirit_55z

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON'S REAL CONCESSION SPEECH.

isonprize

Yeah, more so cuz her azzz is so happy SHE ain't go to deal with this shiggety!!!

GreenLadyHere

spirit: ***eye -2 -eye*** :>) :>) Didn't C U! :>)

claudia_m

LOL!!!! I couldn't have said it better, spirit_55z!!!!!

rorysmomma

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/04/30/o...
Just read this article. I am having my third child and everyone keeps telling me I should hope for a boy. We want a boy but I will be just as pleased if I have charlies angels at my house.... Anyway read this foolishness, and she put it in print. I feel sorry for her child.

NO_ID

I don't see why people get mad at mothers just because they express an honest opinion. I don't have kids but I have a bunch of nieces and I totally understand. You may not feel the same way and you're entitled to that. But why is is that motherhood means to some people that they can no longer have an opinion? I'm sure she'll embrace whatever kid she gets.

rorysmomma

Because unfortunately, as a mother your views shape how you see your children.? I have no problem with her opinion, I just think she showed a lack of foresight when she expressed it.? And she doesn't even have a basis for it..... she has never had a girl so how would she know?

Miranda

When is your bundle of joy due?

The author of that column has issues that she really needs to work out.

rorysmomma

October 15, but I will probably have my little bundle at the end of september (mandatory scheduled c-section)

Justice58

Congrats on the new baby, Rory!

Whether it's a boy or girl, I pray God's blessing for a healthy baby!

rorysmomma

Thank you!!

rikyrah

Why did she write this? I hope her daughter doesn't read it.

As someone who totally wants a daughter one day, I don't understand her.

rorysmomma

Rikyrah,

She is crazy.

isonprize

What? Her husband doesn't read her work? LOLOL They seem to be meant for each other. What the hell kinda secret is THAT to keep from your man?

As you can see, I have mixed feelings about this article. Maybe her mother didn’t want her… maybe she would benefit from talking with families who experience fertility issues… Talk with families who have children on ventilators or in wheelchairs… Maybe this is her life lesson to learn - that you don’t always get ‘what you want’

OR maybe her verbalizing it will help her to recognize how unfair she is being to a baby girl who hasn't even seen this crazy o'l world yet... or help her recognize the beauty of being feminine. [Cue Chaka KHAN: "I thank God, I'm GLAD to be a girl" or "I'm every woman"]

I hope baby girl is born healthy. I hope baby girl is born with a strong spirit to handle whatever negativity comes her way...

May God bless baby girl (and her slightly twisted parents, too!)

Muzikal203

I hope her daughter never runs into that article. I wasn't a difficult child at all, and I'm a girl. If anything, I was the one who had to get my younger brother out of scrapes. Hell, I practically raised him even though I'm only two years older.

rorysmomma

It is so hard out here for women. Now don't get me wrong. I know some manipulative little girls.... However, all children are born with a Ph.D. in manipulation, and the fact that she doesn't think her boys are manipulative means that they have straight up manipulated the crap out of her.

Muzikal203

It's just that girls are smarter sooner :oP

Muzikal203

Michael Steele agrees that Obama is "the magic Negro" mind you, this is after he said the CD that was released with that song was tasteless. Instead of Steele supposedly "changing" the GOP, he's trying his damndest to be "one of the good old boys"

GreenLadyHere

Muzikal203: GO-TO-COON #2!!

HE KNOWS! BUT - - - he SEEMS 2 ENJOY ANY NOTORIETY!! Saaaa-LAP!!

rorysmomma

GLH everybody wants to be a celebrity. Steele running around acting like he is starring in a BET video.

GreenLadyHere

rorysmomma: LOL!!! :>)

LIKE THIS?: GO-TO-COON - -RAP!!

+ Michael Steele Rap Battle :>) :>)

WHAT! A! JOKE!! :>)

rorysmomma

or reality show.

allamr18

A VH1 reality show at that

Miranda

LMAO! Now THAT'S low!!!

rorysmomma

Miranda, it is what it is. What could we call it?

Coonery for GOP Love?

rorysmomma

"For the love of Massa" Like for the love of Ray J. I think I like the sound of that.

Miranda

LMAO!! Oh that would be a hell competitive show! I can see the contestants all lined up: Michael Steele, Ron Christie, Michael Massey, Amy Holmes, Star Parker.........that would truly be worth watching.

danadevin74

damn Hillary
i guess she told him
did you see his face? LOL

Plantsmantx

Yeah...when you make them do that lip-tightening thing, you know you done stung 'em:).

Val

I know. It was bad. Hillary may as well began the conversation with --- you stupid Mother Fu**er . .. . tee hee

Miranda

LOL.....she sure did....I know she wanted to just do a "sit back in the chair, fold arms and just stare at him till he cried" move.

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