Ken Lewis has lost his role as Bank of America’s chairman, and now he’ll have to prove to shareholders that he should keep his post as the troubled bank’s CEO. After months of rancor following Bank of America Corp.’s acquisition of troubled investment bank Merrill Lynch & Co., shareholders voted at the company’s annual meeting to separate the jobs of chairman and CEO. Lewis will remain the CEO of the bank, while board member Walter E. Massey, president emeritus of Morehouse College in Atlanta, will become Bank of America chairman.
Gender: Male Race or Ethnicity: Black Sexual orientation: Straight Occupation: Business, Physicist
Nationality: United States Executive summary: Morehouse College president, physicist
Atlanta Journal-Constitution 20-Nov-2003:
Morehouse College President Walter Massey and his wife, Shirley, tonight will have dinner with a queen, a prince and a president.
President Bush invited Massey to attend a state dinner at the U.S. ambassador's residence in London. Invited guests include Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.
Father: Chester Massey Mother: Essie Massey Wife: Shirley Anne Massey Son: Keith Son: Eric
University: BS Mathematics and Physics, Morehouse College (1958) University: MA, Washington University in St. Louis (1966) University: PhD Physics, Washington University in St. Louis (1966) Administrator: President, Morehouse College (1995-2007)
Member of the Board of Bank of America Member of the Board of British Petroleum (1998-) Member of the Board of Conoco Member of the Board of Delta Airlines (2007-08) Member of the Board of Motorola (1994-91 and 1993-) Member of the Board of McDonald's (1998-) American Association for the Advancement of Science President American Philosophical Society 1991 Andrew W. Mellon Foundation Trustee MacArthur Foundation National Science Foundation Board of Directors (1991-93) RAND Corporation Trustee United Way Chicago Board
Shareholders of Bank of America may have stripped Ken Lewis of his title as chairman, but the man elected to assume oversight of one of the nation’s largest commercial banks is a past supporter who some believe is likely to side with Lewis on key decisions.
The ascension of Morehouse President Emeritus Walter E. Massey to chairman came as Lewis’ responsibilities were reduced in a close shareholders’ vote. The proposal to separate the CEO and chairman jobs passed 50.3 percent to 49.7 percent, bank officials said.
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BofA’s directors then elected the 71-year-old Massey chairman.
Massey trained as a physicist and mathematician, rather than a banker, but he shares elements of Lewis’ biography as a small-town Mississippian catapulted onto the national stage. Walter E. Massey
The African-American administrator and educator was born in Hattiesburg; Lewis, 62, in Meridian. He received his bachelor’s degree in physics and math from Morehouse College in Atlanta; Lewis graduated with a finance degree from Georgia State University.
Massey is also a longtime BofA director. He has been on the board since 1998 and is a member of its Audit Committee. Before that, he was a director of BankAmerica Corporation from 1993 to 1998.
“We are disappointed the bank did not consider a candidate outside the existing directors,” said shareholder Jon Finger, who had campaigned for the CEO-chairman split. Mr. Finger’s family owns more than 1.1 million Bank of America shares.
Others, however, pointed to Massey’s history as a tough-minded overseer who has managed complex organizations from research laboratories to universities.
“President Massey will provide strategic leadership, sound judgment and integrity for one of America’s great financial institutions,” Morehouse’s current president Robert Franklin told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Lewis, meanwhile, acknowledged shareholders’ frustration over the company’s hastily-arranged $50 billion acquisition of Merrill Lynch and Co. last year.
“Our company’s shareholders have carried a heavy burden recently,” he said in a statement released by the bank. “We are doing everything within our power every day to fight through today’s adversity and drive toward tomorrow’s promise.”
Massey has been a director of several large companies besides Bank of America. He is currently a director of McDonald’s and has served on the boards of Delta Air Lines, Motorola and BP PLC.
In the early 1990s, he was appointed by President George H.W. Bush to head the National Science Foundation, an organization that led the government’s support of research and education in mathematics, science and engineering.
He then served in the No.2 administrator job at the University of California before being chosen president of Morehouse. Among his duties as provost and senior vice president was oversight of three labs that the university manages for the Department of Energy: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory and the Los Alamos National Laboratory.
Massey returned to Morehouse in August 1995 where he served as president until June 2007.
He has also served as a director of the Argonne National Laboratory, a vice president for research at the University of Chicago and as founding Chair of the University of Chicago Development Corp.
More recently, he was a member of the Gates Millennium Scholars Advisory Council and the National Commission on Mathematics and Science Teaching for the 21st Century.
Massey and his wife, Shirley, have two sons and three grandchildren.
BEST WISHES!! :>)
Val
dup - posted in pm thread
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: O.K. This is "disconcerting". The MAN-O'-STEELE has managed to grab 2 additional HEADLINES 2-DAY - -to wit:
On CBS' "Early Show" Thursday, Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele pronounced himself in line with the talk show host he once described as "incendiary" and "ugly" -- at least when it comes to Arlen Specter.
HARRY SMITH: We want to talk with Republican National chairman, Michael Steele, right now, this morning. Good morning, sir.
STEELE: Hey, good morning, Harry. How are you?
SMITH: Pretty good. I want first talk about Arlen Specter, his defection to the Democratic Party. Olympia Snowe mourned his loss earlier this week. Rush Limbaugh said he was dead weight, good riddance.
Who's right?
STEELE: Rush. I'm sorry I'm not weeping here. I'm sorry.
Asked about the future of the increasingly small GOP, Steele said, "Well, the future lies down the road a bit. I mean, look, I'm not going to sit here with, you know, pie-in-the-sky talking about, you know, how wonderful things are. They're not."
IMHO - - -The MAN-O'-STEELE has come in contact with - THIS! :>) :>) :>)
The embattled Republican National Committee chairman angrily returned fire in his fight with current and former officers over control of the GOP's purse strings.
Under attack from conservatives since taking office on Jan. 30, Michael S. Steele on Wednesday blasted a group of members pushing for new checks and balances on the chairman's spending powers, accusing them of a power grab "scheme."
"I have just returned from an overseas trip to learn that the five of you have developed a scheme to transfer the RNC chairman's authority to the treasurer and the executive committee," Mr. Steele wrote in an e-mail he sent to Randy Pullen, the RNC's elected treasurer, and Blake Hall, the committee's general counsel, as well as to three former RNC officers.
In the e-mail, obtained by The Washington Times, Mr. Steele argues that he always has embraced the "transparency, competitive bidding and good governance" that Mr. Pullen and the others said their resolution aims to achieve.
Mr. Pullen and four other veteran members have proposed a resolution that imposes new controls on Mr. Steele's power to award contracts and spend money on outside legal and other services. The group needs signatures from RNC members from 16 states to force the resolution to the floor for a vote by the full party committee at the May 20 special meeting.
"It is of course not lost on me that each of you worked tirelessly down to the last minute in an effort to stop me from becoming chairman," Mr. Steele wrote.
Mr. Pullen, himself a candidate for treasurer, backed no one for national chairman. The party's former general counsel David Norcross, a longtime friend and mentor to Mr. Steele, supported the South Carolina GOP chairman. Since then, Mr. Norcross said Mr. Steele has not responded to telephone calls and e-mails from him.
RNC members reached by The Times said they did not know Mr. Steele had been "overseas." Steele spokesman Trevor Francis said "no comment" when The Times asked on Wednesday where exactly Mr. Steele had been.
In the e-mail, Mr. Steele said the resolution "amounts to nothing short of a completely unprecedented usurpation of the authority of the RNC chairman, and a transfer of the chairman's authority to the executive committee and the treasurer. No RNC chairman has ever had to deal with this, and I certainly have no intention of putting up with it either."
But Mr. Norcross, one of the measure's sponsors, said in an e-mail to some members that the opposite is true. He argues that the financial checks and balances proposed in the resolution were always in play at the RNC and somehow got lost in the 2008 post-presidential nominating convention shuffle.
"Randy's resolution or something very similar has been in place for years," Mr. Norcross wrote. "It has been adopted as part of the 'boilerplate' at the organization meetings immediately after the convention every four years. Inexplicably it was not adopted in Minneapolis."
Mr. Norcross then pointedly noted that the RNC's "elected treasurer is subject to criminal and civil penalties for false reporting to the Federal Election Commission. I don't think we should expect anyone to undertake that kind of exposure without this resolution or something very much like it."
Mr. Pullen said he gave Mr. Steele the measure Thursday and was told he would get a response by Sunday. When the response didn't arrive, Mr. Pullen informed the committee's other 167 members of the effort, igniting a battle with members supportive of Mr. Steele.
Wisconsin Republican Party Chairman Reince Priebus knocked the group for trying to "embarrass and neuter the chairman."
The funding fight continues the open challenge to Mr. Steele's authority. Unhappy RNC conservatives secured the signatures needed to force the committee to convene next month's special meeting to vote on a resolution labeling Democrats as "socialists," despite the chairman's reservations about the political wisdom of the move.
Critics said the "socialist" resolution battle was a sign of Mr. Steele's rocky start as RNC chairman and his continuing struggle to assert control of the party's message since his election in January.
O.K. Let's REVIEW: 1. The MAN-O'-STEELE was "elected by 91 Rethugs!
2. He has been accused of FISCAL MISMANAGEMENT in his CAMPAIGNS, etc.
3. "THRUSH "Limpballs" has been at the helm of the GOP & the "M-O-S" even BOWED DOWN 2 him with an "apology!"
"WHYCOME" he thought that he had the SUPPORT & TRUST of the RETHUGS????
Annnnnd, the KARMA - - - U SHOULD NOT HAVE "DISSED" MR. PRESIDENT!!
Saaaa-LAP!!
Val
"THRUSH "Limpballs"
LMAO
GreenLadyHere
Val: What can we say? :>) :>)
P.S. Gotta "bounce' - -Dr's appt! C U L8R! :>)
Monie
Wow......when will the madness stop.....Republicans can be angry with Specter all they want....but this is a new low for a low-class bunch of politicians.
Specter Dr. Evil Comparison Made By Ohio Republican
CINCINNATI — An Ohio Republican leader is being criticized for a blog post that used a photo of Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, bald from chemotherapy, and one of the hairless Dr. Evil from the "Austin Powers" movies.
Hamilton County GOP Chairman Alex Triantafilou (tree-an-tih-FEE'-loo) posted the photos above a commentary criticizing Specter's decision to switch from Republican to Democrat.
The photos drew charges of insensitivity from Tim Burke, the Democratic chairman in Hamilton County, which includes Cincinnati. He sent a news release Wednesday with the headline "Republican Party Ridicules Cancer Patient." Specter has battled Hodgkin's disease.
Triantafilou at first said Burke needed to "lighten up." By Thursday morning, he had replaced the photos with one of a frowning child.
t's time once again to make way for Time magazine's Time 100, their annual list of "The World's Most Influential People." The importance of this list cannot be overstated: it's the one thing Time Magazine does each year that guarantees that they will share cocktails with a few influential people.
Big question! Did Barack Obama make the list? YES, OF COURSE. Part of Time's whole business plan is the Franklin Mint-ization of President Obama. Had this been a list of influential left-handed toreadors, they would shoehorned him on there somehow. Obama is profiled by Gordon Brown, who really, really likes him:
Of course, his oratory is today unmatched. But his courage -- the courage to go first, to lead, where none have gone before -- is doubly unmatched.
Time includes the "Fast fact" that "the hoops-loving President installed a backboard on the White House tennis court." So, one day, the world shall learn that Obama's prowess on the basket-racket court is QUADRUPLY UNMATCHED.
THERE IS MORE.
CONGRATULATIONS!! :>) WE R "QUADRUPLY" PROUD OF U!! :>)
Breaking: Swine Flu Arrives in Wisconsin (With an Update) "Good Times" Artist Ernie Barnes, 70, Dies The Unveiling of the Sojourner Truth Bust at the Nation’s Capitol In Case You Believe That We’re Goners…(With an Update) Saturday Night Music: Jimmy Smith
That POTUS is something special in the air. Did he not work that Chryler deal out. Get rid of the unions and join with Fiat. Masterful. Congrats Mr. President.
Sepia
PBO is NOT getting rid of the unions.
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: HERE COMES MR. PRESIDENT re CHRYSLER!! :>)
1 MONTH ago Chrysler was given a directive.
Can't keep this or any company afloat on TAX dollars unless they can meet certain criteria.
Chrysler & Fiat HAVE FORMED a PARTNERSHIP!!
Canadian gov't is also giving $$$$ support.
Chrysler workers have given major sacrifices in order 2 help Chrysler survive.
SOME INVESTORS & HEDGE FUNDS HAVE NOT MADE SACRIFICES. "I DO NO STAND WITH THEM!!"
Chrysler can use the BANKRUPTCY process as a way of clearing their "books".
GMAC will support some CHRYSLER sales.
These R the measures that we R taking 2 help Americans buy cars. We hope that U will buy American cars.
Your warranties WILL B guaranteed by the Fed. Gov't.
Ed Montgomery - - AUTO LIAISON.
I am confident that this will work.!! :>)
Thank U very much. :>)
LEADERSHIP!!!
Val
Limbaugh To Specter: Take McCain And His Daughter With You
Like I said, there is a battle going on inside the conservative party. Fiscal conservatives are reasserting their influence on a party that has been dominated for the past 8 years by pro-life, anti gay marriage advocates and national security hawks.
Arlen Specter left the GOP, because he was going to lose his primary. Why? Because he voted for the 'stimulus' bill and he violated one of the basic tenets of "Reagan' conservatism, which is limited government spending.
Meagan McCain fails to realize that it was not social conservatives, but rather fiscal conservatives, who saw this as a 'last straw' re: Specter.
msmartin
Reagan is dead - Been dead a long time!!!!!
Miranda
LOL.....So what if Arlen Specter lost the republican primary? That would just mean the person who won WOULD LOSE IN THE STATEWIDE ELECTION. So shouldn't you be more concerned with the fact that the GOP couldn't win statewide in PA regardless??
Conserv1
The GOP can only find it's way back if it focuses on limited government & taxes, restrained spending and individual economic & personal freedom. We have yet to see the consequences of the government bailouts, unprecedented deficit and 'free' money printed by the Fed. Banks have yet to stabilize and several have reportedly failed the 'stress' tests even after giving them trillions of taxpayer dollars.
djchefron
But Ronnie Ray-Gun grew government,He went into deficit spending and Lawd have mercy he raised taxes to 50 %.You are like a 5 dollar crack hooker.You make it to easy. Next.
Conserv1
How old were you when Reagan was President? You are sadly misinformed, but that suits you and your party just fine.
rorysmomma
I was small, but I always followed politics. How dare you say we can't read history... Anyway. He grew the deficit. Or are you disputing that?
Plantsmantx
If you keep saying that, maybe YOU will come to think it's actually true, LOL.
rorysmomma
Be careful what you wish for Rush. You just might get it.
Miranda
Rush doesn't give a damn....he knows that his pockets will stay swole the more he marginalizes the GOP.
Val
Condi Rice Pulls A Nixon: When the President Does It, That Means It is Not Illegal
Condoleezza Rice was recently speaking at Stanford when students asked her an excellent question on waterboarding and torture.
Puhleeze......Lindsay Graham is one of the MAIN players of that tainted brand.....he thinks we forgot the crap that came out of his mouth last fall during the campaign....his xenophobia, playing into all the names and mocking his side did, clinging only to them because they have NO ideas. Besides, he was one of Bush's main foot-soldiers......but yet he and all the other Republicans have a conscience now. Pathetic
Val
See Monie - at least your response is thought provoking based on tangible facts. . . I read the article and simply thought . . . Puhleeze . . . he looks funny.
hah
Conserv1
Social conservatives will be replaced by fiscal conservatives if the GOP is going to build a brand that resonates with a majority of voters.
Val
"if the GOP is going to build a brand that resonates with a majority of voters"
tee hee
Miranda
The majority of voters in the 21st century have access to this thing called the internet. This wonder of mankind provides all kinds of information. Amazing, according to you the GOP lost its message at the height of the Information Age....kinda telling don't cha think? See, while you parrot this bogus "fiscal conservative" meme, the majority of voters see that the FEDERAL government is responsible for - and SHOULD be - a lot more than interstates and national defense. The majority of voters can use that internet thing to see for themselves that when you let the "markets" decide, we get people dying from eating Jiffy, 90 year old men having to go bag groceries because of rogue investment bankers and me having to talk to "Mary" with the heavy accent in Bangledesh about my damn phone bill with AT&T....so you can keep talking this ying-yang about "resonating" with voters, but its not gonna happen...its the information age...and that's really why the GOP will not be resonating anytime soon.
Conserv1
We shall see. First, buyer beware...there is as much misinformation as information out there and as long as you limit your info to Huffpo and DailyKos you may as well live in a vacuum.
You act as if all of Obama's policies have been fully implemented and deemed successful. There is no guarantee that the banks will not need more money, that the automakers will remain viable without taxpayer support, that the government will be able to or even wants to 'get out' of the private sector. There is no magic wand that allows the 'rich' to create mountains of money to pay for all of the trillions we spend. There is no guarantee that the 'free' money printed by the fed will not lead to inflation, that your taxes will not go up, that your company will survive. When will we see a 'green job' defined, let alone created?
The desire for fiscal restraint is real and growing. You denegrate the hundreds of thousands who protested the bailouts and excessive spending, while failing to recognize that technology allowed them to communicate and assemble.
What you really are saying is that the GOP will not be resonating with YOU.
Give me an example of a modern day fiscal conservative Republican.
Conserv1
Just a few that come to mind.
Tom Coburn (R, OK), Paul Ryan (R, WI), Jeff Sessions (R, AL), Jim DeMint (R, SC), Jack Kingston (R, GA), Jeb Hensarling (R, TX)
Micheline
I object that these men represent fiscal conservatism. The most fiscal conservative president was Bill Clinton and look what happened to all the work he had done.
Conserv1
Bill Clinton worked with a Republican controlled Congress to reform welfare and balance the budget.
Micheline
No the balance budget came from the 1994 Budget Resolution which got NO GOP votes. Nada. So give credit to the Democratic congress for that. Clinton raised taxes to the rate that Obama want's to go back to so please stop telling me that the GOP is fiscally conservative. They are not. I also resent how the right hijac the term. The way define fiscal conservatism is bankrupt.
mon_dieu_ishmael
The real reason that Clinton was able to control the budget was the tax increase of Bush #1. (the increase that cost him re-election),
Micheline
Clinton raised taxes more than Bush 1.
Justice58
Joke, right?
Plantsmantx
Coburn...Sessions...Kingston? Those are some of the looniest whackadoodles in Congress. I'm glad you "fiscal conservatives" think these are the kind of people who will pull the party out of the hole it's in. Man, it just gets better and better:).
Conserv1
Thanks OK. You will never vote GOP and I'm not here to convince you.
Plantsmantx
You're kidding, right? At this point, getting blacks to vote GOP is the least of y'all's problems:)). Forget about us- what are ya'll going to do about all the white people you've alienated? Huh? It looks to me as if the Republican party and movement conservatism in general is moving into the territory GWB occupied in the last year or so of of his Presidency- no matter what you do or say, people just don't want to hear it. Oh- and trying to finger the fundie wing of the party as the problem and pushing them backstage won't work either. Some of you are trying to convince yourselves that they are the only ones who have made modern conservatism unpalatable to much of the public...nope.
Val
notice that Conserv1 has been offline at JJP for about a week or so? He had to go get reprogrammed which worked out great because the GOP needed time to come up with some new talking points. lol
Conserv1
Actually my father was in the hospital following a heart attack.
Val
Oh no! I apologize and retract my statement Conserv1. I am sorry to hear about your Dad. See you could have hit us up for some prayers for your father. I truly hope he is feeling better.
Lisa M
Wondered what happened to you? How is your dad?
Monie
You see, I didn't even respond to those Bush foot-soldiers Conserv 1 named......he can not be serious.
djchefron
Squirrels.They gather all their food and save it for the coming winter
Conserv1
Squirrels are highly adaptable and survive harsh conditions, too.
Justice58
lol
Val
National Council For A New America: GOP Launches Rebranding Effort
effort to revive the image of the Republican Party and to counter President Obama's characterization of Republicans as "the party of 'no.'"
STROUDSBURG, Pa. – A northeastern Pennsylvania prosecutor said he's shocked that two sisters accused of selling heroin are 65 and 70 years old. Monroe County District Attorney David Christine told reporters Wednesday that to look at the suspects, it's hard to believe the charges they face.
Police said the women are believed to have been dealing heroin out of their Stroudsburg-area homes for almost six months and pulling in about $10,000 a week in sales. A 28-year-old Allentown man was accused of being their supplier.
lol It's hard to live on social security these days. lololol
rorysmomma
Times are rough and tough like leather.
NMP
The hell with making excuses for Joe Biden. I'm sick of his ass. He's a grown ass man with decades of service at the highest levels of political office and now just one heartbeat away from leading the free world. This man's inability to stay on message even for matter of minutes is inexcusable. It's not just Joe being Joe. He's Joe the Vice President. He needs to stop talking like Joe the Plumber! I feel like sticking a plunger down his mother fuckin' throat!
Conserv1
Everyone knew Joe Biden was a gaffe machine when he was picked to be VP.
rorysmomma
Our former president had so many gaffes that we had people interpreting what he was saying, yet he was re-elected. Say what you want about Biden, but he aint the top dog. G-Dubya was.
Sepia
I'd rather have a "gaffe machine" as my VP than a sadistic murderer like Cheney.
I like Joe Biden. Those in the White House are fine by me. I'm not worried about what might transpire while I sleep or am at work and they're in charge. Unlike the previous traitorous bastards, I'm convinced that these two men have the best interests of this country and her people as their PRIMARY priority & concern.
GreenLadyHere
Wordsmith: Mega-Co-sign!! :>)
-Er ----- -ummmm- Don't we have some other issues 2 "THINK ABOUT?" - - -Mr. President stated yesterday - - -'bout 7 or 8! :>)
What are you talking about? I don't see either Obama or Biden as incompetent. If you do, then that's your problem.
NMP
I'm specifically talking about Joe Biden, NOT the President and you know it. He did a five minute interview where he was completely incapable of staying on the script that he was given. That's competency? We can all agree that Joe Biden is a good guy, but he's a thoroughly incompetent communicator. There are direct consequences to his statements. You can like him but still recognize his limitations.
I'm specifically talking about Joe Biden, NOT the President and you know it.
How the hell do you know what I know or don't know?
I wouldn't have asked for clarification if I understood who or what you meant. I don't know you and I don't know your speaking trends so give it a rest.
Recognizing someone's limitations is fine. What do you expect will happen; he'll resign; he'll be fired? What?
He's not incompetent. He's Vice President for a reason - Obama chose him for a reason or a multitude of reasons. I'll trust Obama's judgement on that call.
NMP
Damn! Who knew that just by virtue of being selected as VP Biden became iinfallable. Unless I imagined it, this is the same Biden Black folks wanted to give a collective beat down to last year because of his big mouth.
NO, I don't expect him to be fired. What I expected was for him to show some gratitude to the President for breathing political life back into him, giving him the chance to live out his lifelong ambition at least in part. I expect him to be a professional and recognize that we ALL have incompetencies. And that where we lack competency, greater effort and self-discipline must be applied. In short, I expect a person in his position to know when to keep his damn mouth shut! And if can't or won't (I'm damn suspect) then his public presence should be reduced or eliminated to the point no one will miss him when he's not on the ticket in '12.
Lastly, it's got to be killin' a lot of folks that the president's most competent appointments have been Republicans and Hillary Clinton.
Okay - we're at the stage where apparently your expectations far exceed the limitations of those involved.
What I expected was for him to show some gratitude to the President for breathing political life back into him, giving him the chance to live out his lifelong ambition at least in part. I expect him to be a professional and recognize that we ALL have incompetencies. And that where we lack competency, greater effort and self-discipline must be applied.
Val
exactly Wordsmith. You know exactly what you are going to get with the President and VP and I am also confident in them leading our country.
I was looking over that photo/video relay from Time magazine (Callie Shell?) and that's what I kept thinking about - the concern that exudes from this man as president. I NEVER got that at any time during the Bush administration from ANY of them. It was always about lying, covering up, bullshit - you name it. Incompetent fuckers.
And NOW - NOW the ReThugs are whining because the milk in their bottle is lukewarm. Well fucking BUCK UP. You got damn near 4 years to like lukewarm milk. Unlike the previous occupants, this administration is concerned about you as well, which is lucky for you because I sure as the fuck wouldn't.
Now seriously - I gotta get to work so I can help Conserv1's social security payment.
Miranda
ROFLMAO
Conserv1
Work to build your own wealth. I'm self-employed and doing just fine.
jdickenslaw
Do you get paid for posting? May I ask, who pays?
Conserv1
Sorry, I post because I love mixing it up with JJP readers.
rorysmomma
you are obviously a glutton for punishment. Or you like agitating folks. LOL
"Vice President was asked what he would tell a family member who was considering air travel to Mexico this week. The advice he is giving family members is the same advice the Administration is giving to all Americans: that they should avoid unnecessary air travel to and from Mexico. If they are sick, they should avoid airplanes and other confined public spaces, such as subways. This is the advice the Vice President has given family members who are traveling by commercial airline this week. As the President said just last night, every American should take the same steps you would take to prevent any other flu: keep your hands washed; cover your mouth when you cough; stay home from work if you're sick; and keep your children home from school if they're sick."
moja31
it seems to me that joe didn't say anything that isn't common sense to anyone that knows anything about how things like flu spread. confined spaces like planes, where air doesn't cycle through as readily, are a great place to catch something; thus if you're worried about swine flu and don't absolutely need to fly, then stay home. perhaps he stated it too bluntly; but the only reason it's problematic is that there are few things the media loves more than the biden as gaffe machine meme, except perhaps the clintons=all things evil meme.
Val
"perhaps he stated it too bluntly; "
That is it exactly. Personally I like and respect a straight talker.
NMP
Wasn't that bad? We're still in the middle of economic crisis, barely above float, and the Vice Presidentof the United States says that we should stop traveling. Let's see, banks are fucked, the car industry is fucked, so why not at the airlines to it as well, right?
Maybe I'm one of the few unfortunate folks whose job is evaluated by what impact my actions and words have to the overall mission of my organization. For instance, my organization has partnered with one of the world's largest beverage producers. I can't imagine saying to the media that I've told my family to stop drinking their product because it's bottled in Mexico and still expect to have a job on Monday. As a professional, I'm expected to be disciplined, a standard I think should extend to the 2nd most powerful person in the world (at least on paper). I guess I should be grateful that he wasn't selected as Secretary of State where he could do even more damage.
lamh32
Ah I am a registrered Medical Technologist specialized in Microbiology, and I have people I work with who are forestalling travelling on airplanes for at least a little while, not because they believe they will get "swine" flu, but because they have children or medial issues, as a precaution, and I'm not trying to hype my own experience, but due to my profession, I am very aware of the issues pertaining to Microbiology (Bacteriology, Parasitology, Mycology, etc) It is what people are thinking and yes doing.
" Although he supports choice, the president also recognizes the moral complexity of those decisions. Out of respect for pro-life Catholics and their beloved institution, he should politely bow out."
Ya know what - the family who brought Notre Dame their "greatest football coach" is my family. And those who claim to speak for Notre Dame don't speak for me, my family or Catholics everywhere.
Faced with a high-profile defection and the prospect of political irrelevance in the Senate, Republicans took off the gloves Wednesday for a ferocious game of finger-pointing.
Republican Sens. Orrin Hatch and George Voinovich blamed the Club for Growth for imposing a right-wing litmus test that chased Arlen Specter out of the Republican Party. The Club for Growth blamed Specter — first for helping to ruin the GOP and then for leaving it. A leading Republican strategist blamed the party for turning its back on moderates. Sen. Lindsey Graham sniped at Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. Specter’s pollster blamed the stimulus bill. Karl Rove blamed Specter himself.
And the National Republican Senatorial Committee set about trying to taint Specter among Pennsylvania Democrats by reminding them that he was once aligned with Republican President George W. Bush.
In the nasty game of Who Lost Specter, only Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell seemed to go unscathed — although his pain will come as he tries to lead a caucus that is likely to be too small to stand in the way of anything the Democrats want to do.
Conserv1
Republicans are eating their own now. The challenge facing the GOP is in deciding if it wants to be a broader party or a purer party.
Ronald Reagan urged, “We should emphasize the things that unite us and make these the only ‘litmus test’ of what constitutes a Republican: our belief in restraining government spending, pro-growth policies, tax reduction, sound national defense, and maximum individual liberty.” He continued, “As to the other issues that draw on the deep springs of morality and emotion, let us decide that we can disagree among ourselves as Republicans and tolerate the disagreement.”
The state of the future economy will play an important role in shaping the Republican message, pushing aside abortion and gay marriage, to focus on limited spending and taxes, fiscal responsibility and individual liberty.
Fresh faces are needed in the GOP and they are likely to rise from the ranks of fiscal conservatives, not social conservatives.
Admiral_Komack
"Republicans are eating their own now."
-Well, what do you expect from a bunch of teabaggers?
Justice58
Conserv1,
More members of the republican party will cut ties until the GOP realize the country has changed & moved in a new direction.
Conserv1
I do not disagree, but the GOP cannot and should not try to become the Democrat Party-lite.
Limited government and taxes will be the dominant issues in future elections. The grassroots, fiscal conservatives will shape the debate at the local and state levels, and later in Congress. The future of the GOP lies beyond the Beltway.
Justice58
It doesn't matter whether it's big government or small government.... as long as it's effective government.
Conserv1
We have yet to see if this BIGGEST of Big government will be effective.
Justice58
Bush was a failure.
Conserv1
And Obama is continuing and expanding many of those policies regarding bailouts, deficits and government spending.
Micheline
Expansion of government come out of circumstances not ideology. The Civil War, robber-barons, Great Depression, WWII, Great Society, Civil Rights have expanded the size of the government. Believe me oy would be easier if people, corporations behave accordingly or use common sense but unfortunately that is not the case.
Conserv1
So we need the government to swoop in and save us from the consequences of the actions that created the current economic crises by bailing out the reckless and irresponsible?
Automakers are failing because they cannot support the unfunded liabilites on their balance sheets and sell enough cars to make up the difference.
Financial institutions failed because they invested in a risky scheme based on government secured mortgages that people could not afford.
People obtained credit which could not afford and when they lost their ability to pay, they defaulted on their financial obligations.
We demand that government provide more and more for us and allow them to spend and spend with little to show for the investment. Be it education, healthcare, energy, we want the government to provide a better product than we are getting from the private sector, yet the past handling of these issues by politicians is dismal.
Will school choice or nuclear power, effective options in education and energy ever be allowed by the teacher's unions or environmental lobbyists who control the Democrats in Congress? Will health care consumers be allowed to retain access to new and experimental treatments or will their choices be rationed to 'control costs'? When money and power are even more centralized in Washington the risk for corruption and inefficiency increased.
Monie
and the alternative....oh, yeah......tax cuts, tax cuts, and tax cuts gave us what.....
oh, I forgot.....the lowest job growth in 4 decades, over a trillion dollars of American wealth lost in 2008 alone, a recession that STARTED in 2007 and was held in secret to protect the Republican brand, and a gutting of regulations lauded and applauded by Republicans that have us facing the worst time...
and every talking mouthpiece from GOP members in Congress to mouth-pieces like Hannity, Limbaugh, and the other wingnuts were the biggest cheerleaders and foot-soldier's for the Reagan/Bush1/Bush 2 Republican mantras that have this countries knees bucking.
Conserv1
You would like fiscal conservatism to equal nothing more than 'tax cuts for the rich' and deregulation but you are highly misinformed and comfortable spewing the lamest of Dem talking points.
Bush was no 'Reagan conservative' and today's GOP under Bush morphed into 'compassionate conservatism' as defined by increased spending, growing deficits and an emphasis on social issues.
Reagan above all, promoted the right of the individual to live one's life free from excessive government interference and he believed strongly in the ability of each individual to achieve one's goals and create their own wealth and version of the 'American Dream.'
Reagan believed that you could spend your hard earned money in a way that was best for you and your family. He believed that government should promote free markets, entrepreneurship and competition. He believed in a system that rewards personal responsibility, hard work, risk and success.
As government grows to unsustainable levels that will require ever growing levels of taxpayers funded support, Americans will get up each and every morning, and go to work, not to feed only their families, but the insatiable beast that has become the Federal Government.
But that's OK with Obama voters. Who needs to be responsible when we can get the 'rich' to pay for it all.
Micheline
That stance is not antithetical to "big" government as many like to portray.
Monie
Reagan was no fiscal conservative...
Bush I sure the hell was not....in the 1987 campaign, he didn't even have to answer about the bank bailouts of the S & L crisis that occurred during their presidency........ain't it ironic how all these bailouts happen during Republican presidencies
and Bush 2 only finished off where Reagan/Bush left off
Advice: read some REAL historical literature.....Hot air, Red State and Pajamas Media will KEEP you ignorant and DEVOID of facts.....
oh and by the way...the local base wrote a WONDERFUL piece about the President visiting the troops with a large picture of those same troops holding up DIFFERENT cameras of their own......no mention of a set up or staged photo-op.....but you got back to reading the nonsense now...okay.
Conserv1
Reagan's accomplishments speak for themselves. You cannot deny the growth and prosperity Americans had under Reagan.
Bush was no Reagan.
Monie
Let's begin with job growth and see where Reagan ranks in the 11 post-war presidents
Total employment 1. Lyndon Johnson (1963-69), 3.74% 2. Jimmy Carter (1977-81), 3.11% 3. Bill Clinton (1993-2001), 2.42% 4. Harry Truman (1945-53), 2.38% 5. Richard Nixon (1969-74), 2.30% 6. John Kennedy (1961-63), 2.28% 7. Ronald Reagan (1981-89), 2.04%, 8. Gerald Ford (1974-77), 0.95% 9. Dwight Eisenhower (1953-61), 0.87% 10. George H.W. Bush (1989-93), 0.59% 11. George W. Bush (2001-09), 0.28%
President Bush’s return to huge deficit spending represents a sharp break from the recent past. During President Clinton’s second term, the government actually ran on-budget surpluses and began paying down the national debt. The new level of deficit spending exceeds the previous records set during the Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush administrations, when on-budget deficits averaged 25 percent and 28 percent of on-budget spending, respectively.
The previous one year record for deficit spending, at 31 percent of total non-Social Security outlays, was set under President Reagan in fiscal 1983
....and you can google how much taxpayers were on the hook for bailouts enacted after Reagan/Bush were at the helm and cost over $100 bn dollars....
Is this really what you all champion as fiscal conservatism?
Monie
.....and we have yet to see a real "fiscal" conservative Republican president or party, so I guess we are all waiting to see something that we haven't seen before.
Plantsmantx
There it is, Monie. Where IS this mythical "true conservatism" I've heard tell of, but have never seen in practice?
Val
what is a "purer party".
vulcan_girl
pure white?
GreenLadyHere
vulcan_girl: Do I have to share my PIC of the RNC Convention - -again? :>) :>)
IT was "pure white" up in there! :>)
In FACT, I still have the "sunglasses" that BAB recommended 4 the occasion!! :>)
Thanks - - "BAB"! :>)
Justice58
Yes!
Val
that was my initial assessment which is why I asked the question.
Conserv1
No.
lamh32
Actually it seems like it it. How are "real true" conservative on immigration issues. The GOP base basically "waterboarded" McCain to get him to compromise on his immigration position. And thanks to that he has in large part eroded what was his considerable base in the Hispanic community.
Conserv1
One that does not tolerate differences of opinion on highly emotional moral issues like abortion and gay marriage.
spirit_55z
That ONE still has to be WHITE & RIGHT.
Conserv1
No. Too bad you cannot take my words at face face value. I am talking about ideological purity when discussing the social issues of abortion and gay marriage.
Sepia
But you've proven that your words aren't your words.
Conserv1
Then believe what you want and take refuge in intolerance and ignorance.
Val
how is that pure? and who defines what is pure?
Conserv1
Right now there are competing factions within the conservative movement: Social conservatives (primarily Evangelical Christians) and fiscal conservatives. In the past 8 years, I feel that Evangelical Christians have dominated and controlled the debate, turning off many voters who have a more libertarian attitude towards abortion and gay marriage. Palin was put on the ticket to appease social conservatives, but she did more harm than good to the ticket.
Texas_Girl_in_LA
Come on now, Val.
You know what is really going on with that statement....
Val
I don't want to assume so i'm asking Conserv to explain it to me in laymans terms.
Conserv1
Economic reality has moved fiscal responsibility, limited government & taxes, and individual liberty back to the forefront of conservative thinking. The GOP will need to embrace fiscal conservatives, regardless of their political positions regarding social issues such as abortion and gay marriage.
Monie
I don't know if you follow Ron Paul closely...he is one of the well known libertarian republicans today.....
but I'm interested in knowing....as much as he and others rail against government spending, how about he and the other republican leaders give up their taxpayer-funded salaries and turn away their socialistic free taxpayer funded health care that benefits them and their families..
Wouldn't you say that is a strong message against wasteful spending and more effective than railing about tea-parties?
Will Republicans put up or shut up.....let them start by giving up THEIR health care....that might save the US some money
Conserv1
Look. Dems control Congress and they hold the purse strings. The GOP has been given minority status by the voters. They have little ability to challenge legislation, shape debate in Congress and the members of Congress will answer to their constituents. The will 'put up or shut up' with their votes. They will do so by voting "no' on big spending bills, bailouts and tax increases or they will risk losing their jobs.
Why should Congressmen be denied their livelihood and their 'right' to healthcare just because they happen to disagree with you? Stupid point.
Val
RAOTFLMAO. Conserv- she got you on this one. Oh what a tangled web we weave . . . . .
You just said healthcare is a right so why the push back against the healthcare plan for most Americans? If they have the right to these basic things . . why not the rest of America?
Conserv1
Before you get too excited, notice I put 'right' in quotes.
It is a stupid argument.
Monie
Why is it stupid....Ron Paul is a doctor, right....I am sure he has some medical colleagues that can hook him up with health care service, better yet he can go to the emergency room like some of this republican colleagues suggest...they won't turn him away....... many of our Congressman and women come from good-paying backgrounds, like law and prior government positions etc....
Why should they get guaranteed free health care when it is obvious they don't need it from a financial aspect.....especially when they not only benefit from a tax-payer funded salary but also benefit from lobbyist dollars and campaign contributions.
It a stupid argument to you because it's true.....
just like secessionist Rick Perry wants to know where is his state's Federal dollars for swine flu ...maybe he can grab them from the 10th amendment he touts for secession.....ha, you see how that works.
Republicans do not even believe or live up to their own words...PATHETIC.
Monie
Why should Congressmen be denied their livelihood and their 'right' to healthcare just because they happen to disagree with you? Stupid point.
Why is it stupid...because it also points out hypocrisy?
So you do believe health care is a right?!
And as much for livelihood...will Republicans like others in Congress also continue to vote for THEIR raises, while the majority of American wages have declined and stagnated while they were at the helm.
Conserv1
No. I put 'right' in quotes. How thick...
jdickenslaw
CHECK AND MATE, GAME OVER. CONSERV1 LOSES AGAIN
Texas_Girl_in_LA
Good luck with that....with cutting and pasting habits, it's hard to break it down
spirit_55z
I think if Conserv1 cut and pasted pics, I'd respond to IT more.
spirit_55z
Chrysler to File for Bankruptcy By Brady Dennis, David Cho and Peter Whoriskey Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, April 30, 2009; 10:04 AM
By Brady Dennis, David Cho and Peter Whoriskey Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, April 30, 2009; 10:04 AM
Chrysler, one of the three pillars of the American auto industry, will file for bankruptcy today after last-minute negotiations between the government and the automaker's creditors broke down last night, an Obama administration official said.
U.S. officials had offered Chrysler's secured lenders $2.25 billion in cash if they would agree to writedown the $6.9 billion in secured debt that the company owed. But a small group of hedge funds refused the 11th-hour deal, forcing an imminent bankruptcy.
An administration official this morning expressed disappointment, saying the holdouts had failed to "do the right thing," but that "their failure to act in either their own economic interest or the national interest does not diminish the accomplishments made by Chrysler, Fiat and its stakeholders, nor will it impede the new opportunity Chrysler now has to restructure and emerge stronger going forward."
President Obama is scheduled to address the issue at noon today at the White House.
So what are we going to do now that the 100 days are over? LOL. Has the MSM come up with a new milestone yet?
Val
"Has the MSM come up with a new milestone yet?"
you know it
spirit_55z
Oh you know they have. Last night Rachel was talking about creating a laundry list of "to dos" for the Obama administration.
PluheezZZZZZZZZ!!
Val
pluheezZZZZZZZ!! is right. I know exactly what she can do with that "Honey Do" list.
Justice58
Me too. Geez!
TyrenM
Sorry to be off topic but I gotta ask. Since I'm off tomorrow let me ask the horseplayers of JJP, who do you think will win the Kentucky Derby? I'm rolling with Pioneer of the Nile.
Justice58
Chocolate Candy!
TyrenM
Good Morning All: Professor Lacewell Harris - Besides not getting shot in first 100 days (paraphrase) bucking pirates and firing GM leader's ass - that's gangsta. Love her. Rachel was stuck. Wright or no - I hope they choose a Black Church. Spirit - Senator Amy "Minnesota Nice." One day we'll have to explain that to rest of country if they don't already know. Justice Kennedy - Ugh, please get on with filling open judgeships as soon as Franken is seated. Have a nice day.
spirit_55z
Hey, Tyren. "You BETCHA!"
Spirit - Senator Amy "Minnesota Nice." One day we'll have to explain that to rest of country if they don't
Shazza
Ok I heeard something amusing today. Remember when people would say you'll see a black President when pigs fly? Well we have one now and now there's swine flu. :)
“That wasn’t me,” President Barack Obama said on his 100th day in office, disclaiming responsibility for the huge budget deficit waiting for him on Day One.
It actually was partly him - and the other Democrats controlling Congress the previous two years - who shaped the latest in a string of precipitously out-of-balance budgets.
And as a presidential candidate and president-elect, he backed the twilight Bush-era stimulus plan that made the deficit deeper, all before he took over and promoted spending plans that have made it much deeper still. . . . His assertion that his proposed budget “will cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term” is an eyeball-roller among many economists, given the uncharted terrain of trillion-dollar deficits and economic calamity that the government is negotiating.
Justice Department Backs Plan to Eliminate Cocaine Sentencing Disparity
By Carrie Johnson Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, April 30, 2009
Justice Department officials yesterday endorsed for the first time a plan that would eliminate vast sentencing disparities between possession of powdered cocaine and rock cocaine, an inequity that civil rights groups say has affected poor and minority defendants disproportionately.
Lanny A. Breuer, the new chief of the criminal division, told a Senate Judiciary subcommittee that the Obama administration would support bills to equalize punishment for offenders convicted of possessing the drug in either form, fulfilling one of the president's campaign pledges. Breuer explicitly called on Congress to act this term to "completely eliminate" the sentencing disparity. The issue has received attention from both political parties, but until now, top law enforcement officials have not backed legislative reforms, according to drug control analysts.
It's about time. There is no reason why black drug addicts should be serving more time than white drug addicts. As a matter of fact the whole idea of criminalizing an addiction is ridiculous. If these people were to be put into treatment it would be cheaper and probably go a long way to making them contributing members of society much faster.
spirit_55z
Court Reveals Customary Divide In Wrestling With Anti-Bias Law Kennedy's Vote Will Be Key in Challenge to Voting Rights Act
By Robert Barnes Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, April 30, 2009
The Supreme Court yesterday split along a familiar ideological battle line in its consideration of the Voting Rights Act, apparently leaving Justice Anthony M. Kennedy in the pivotal position of deciding the fate of what a government lawyer called "one of the most transformative acts in American history."
Kennedy acknowledged the success of the 1965 act but voiced considerable reservations about the key provision in question, Section 5. It requires some states, mostly in the South, to have any changes in election laws or practices approved in advance by federal authorities. The rest of the nation must abide by the law's requirements but does not need "preclearance."
"The Congress has made a finding that the sovereignty of Georgia is less than the sovereign dignity of Ohio. The sovereignty of Alabama is less than the sovereign dignity of Michigan," Kennedy said, referring to Congress's 2006 reauthorization of the act.
It was a theme he returned to repeatedly. "This is a great disparity in treatment, and the government of the United States is saying that our states must be treated differently," Kennedy told Deputy Solicitor General Neal Katyal. "And you have a very substantial burden if you're going to make that case."
FROM:* The White House TelePrompter Senator Harry Speaker Nancy Senator Chris D. You (Your Name)
***Pathetic. And over 4,000 have been sent so far. They plan to flood Specter's inbox with this nonsense...for what purpose other than being petty. I swear my 9 year old has more sense than this.
I hope their appeal grows so small with this nonsense and by gosh, MC Steal Moe Bling is a a straight plum fool and coon no doubt. They can not be serious. The RNC is a real-life comedy sitcom.
Val
i would let them choke on their stupidity. The more they whine and behave like 3 year olds, the more folks will leave the party.
Jackasses
MsKitty
Once again: Bush had teleprompters and earpieces at his disposal, and he still couldn't put together a coherent sentence. So what is their point?
What a bunch of idiots.
Justice58
Bush had teleprompters and earpieces at his disposal, and he still couldn't put together a coherent sentence.
Ms Kitty,
They know. They're trying to pretend we don't.
Justice58
It is not surprising republicans are irrelevant. They can't even act like mature adults. And they want to be in charge of running the country? Puhleeeze.
Shazza
Well they ARE petty and childish. I've never seen such whiny crybabies!!
spirit_55z
Yes, they were weaned off breast milk fairly early
Just wanted to add, the RNC's contempt for the President is almost nausea-inducing....look at how they referred to him " The White House Teleprompter"
and Michael Steele had the nerve to ask "how you like me now".......BITCH please!
Justice58
Thank You! You said it for me!
rikyrah
Why Black People Loved the First 100 Days posted by Melissa Harris-Lacewell on 04/28/2009 @ 11:38pm
It is not just the fact of a black president. Instead, with everyone analyzing the 100-day mark of Obama's administration, I think the answer lies in understanding this historic moment through a black cultural lens. I believe African Americans are feeling racially optimistic because they respect how our first Brother President is handling his business. Not all black people of course; there is a group clamoring for "accountability." But the polls are clear that most black people remain enthusiastic supporters of this president.
In January Obama kicked things off with the ultimate political party. African Americans stood with numb fingers and toes on the National Mall to watch a day we never thought would come. Obama had Mary J. Blige singing on the weekend, Aretha in her Sunday-going-to-meeting-hat celebrating on Tuesday morning, and Beyonce serenading on Tuesday night. It was an unrivaled R&B trifecta, challenging even the Essence festival.
But the best part of January 20th was that Barack and Michelle got out of the bulletproof, blac Cadillac and walked the streets...and no one shot at them. I know we are not allowed to say it, but one reason black people believe that race relations have improved in America is because Barack lived through the primaries, the election, the inauguration, and now through 100 days.
Melissa told a glaring, brutally, honest TRUTH. Barack Obama is Black, intelligent, Harvard educated, a loving father, husband...... we could go on, and on, but all of who he is now, could have been wiped out with a single bullet.
So yes, I for one was lifting he and his family up in peace and blessing from the Holy Spirit. Before Inauguration day, it was like WAITING TO EXHALE........
In fact, every day, he's breathing, I breathe a hearty sigh of relief and gratitude.
rorysmomma
" every day, he's breathing," I know that Repubs are fit to be tied because he symbolizes what they thought Black would neva eva eva be.
This is just a guess but do you think its because finally we have someone who is intelligent and speak to all of us as adults?
RobM
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Since Chrysler is about to file bankruptcy, clearly they have bad credit. So can and should a Chrsyler with bad credit, reject Black and Brown auto loan applicants with bad (or even slightly better) credit?
RobM
This meme keeps popping out of the ground in regards to what church the Obama family should attend. I just can't accept the idea that the family will go to church anywhere but a AfricanAmerican church. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
spirit_55z
I think the meme would still be pushed even if the Rev. Wright video clip hadn’t surfaced and aired on a continuus media loop.
This signifying and scrutiny is all about the white media's attempt to DE-BLACK Barack Obama. This has nothing to do with whether or not he is a TRUE CHRISTIAN. They could care less. It is all about fear and control.
As long as PBO and his family sit in a church where the congregation is predominately black or all black, it will bug the living shit out of whitey.
If they felt so passionate about him going to a multi-ethnic church, why aren't they attending said same? Ask the writers of this piece and other whites who attend church. What is the ETHNIC make-up in their churches?
There might have been some bruha ha about JFK and his Catholisim, but he was never hounded about what church he's going to attend.
I'm not a religious person. I nutrue myself spiritually and attend a temple once a month. My spiritual life is my personal choice and I afford the same freedom to others.
djchefron
.A nine year old boy asks his mother, "Is God male or female?" After thinking for a moment, his mother responds "Well God is both male and female."
This confuses the boy, so he asks, "Is God black or white?" "Well," she says, "God is both black and white."
This really confuses the boy, so he asks, "Is God gay or straight?"
Feeling a bit out of her depth, but wanting to be consistent, the mother answers, "Honey, God is both gay and straight."
At this the boy's face lights up with understanding and he triumphantly asks...
"Is Michael Jackson God?"
Justice58
dj,
lol
You need to quit!
moja31
this media obsession over where they will go to church drives me nuts; nowhere in the president's job description does it say that he even has to go to church, and i don't really care how often he goes, when he goes etc. in fact, the constitution where his oath is found, is pretty specific about letting people do whatever they want with their religious lives. the juvenile media just loves any excuse to bring up rev. wright, so they're obsessing about this church thing like never before (you should see that idiot david gregory talk about it ugh), which of course has the added benefit of bringing all that "he's secretly not christian" innuendo along with it every time they breathlessly ask "why hasn't he been to church more often?" the thing that i hate the most though, is that everyone keeps using the notion "mainstream church" as a euphemism for "non black church;" black churches are perfectly mainstream and an important part of black communities. obama has said plenty of times that the community provided by the black church has been very important to his life and that of his family, and i'd be pretty annoyed if the obamas felt they had to sacrifice a part of themselves & pick a lilly white church just to please the white wing talking heads. i'd hate to see them tacitly accept the frame that black churches aren't mainstream.
Justice58
I agree MoJa.
Choosing a place to worship is very personal & private. I want to see them in a black church because it's what they're accustomed to. They've spent their married life in the black church. Why change because some people have an issue with it?
RonnieB
I have to respectfully disagree, Rob. While I certainly don't want to see the First Family attend a 99% White church, I would much rather see them attend a culturally and ethnically diverse church. Again, not a church where the "diverse" people can easily be pointed out, but a church where one can't--at first glance--determine the predominance of the congregation one way or the other.
I'll admit; these churches are hard to find. But I'm hoping the First Family will set the benchmark.
djchefron
There is no such thing as a diverse church in mainstream America.Sunday church is still where apartheid is not only accepted but encourage.I am not religious but shouldn't ones relationship with whatever god you worship be intimate?Why do people need to go to a building to proclaim their love for their god.
RonnieB
Again, I have to disagree. I and my family attended a few. They're not easy to find, but they're out there.
Why *must* people go to a building to worship? A long-held Biblical teaching that's been open to interpretation for centuries. In my opinion, one doesn't need to get dressed up, perfumed up, shined up to go to church. If people wanna get together and have church at a campground, on their front porch, or in an elevator, it's all good. It's fellowship that's Biblically mandated.
djchefron
."Again, I have to disagree. I and my family attended a few. They're not easy to find, but they're out there." They may be out there but would they be acceptable to the larger christian community as the true "church' for the President.
I could not agree with you more on this statement. Sunday is probably the most segregated day in North America. Whites go to their church and blacks go to theirs and both claim to be praying to the same God. I wonder if part of the reason is because of the political history of the black church thus making whites uncomfortable. Black Ministers speak truth to power and perhaps whites just want to get in and do their time without hearing about the ways in which the "isms" are destructive.
I have to agree as well, but I can see why they might be reluctant to commit to any church after Rev. Wright. Let's hope they don't decide where to worship on a slow news day because the media attention will be tough on them AND whatever church is chosen. I can see the ministers right now reviewing all their videos and newsletters for the coming scrutiny!!!
rikyrah
I continue to hear you, RobM.
ChrisChambers
After a shareholder revolt, a black man is now Chairman of Bank of America. B/c of the press conf./100 Days and swine flu, this got back-burnered. All you 'House alums should be cheering for Massey. Of course, it was all due to corporate intrigue over Merrill Lynch (and the positive notion that any bank getting TARP $--and in my opinion EVERY publicly traded entity should have an independent chairperson) and perhaps the dark lords of banking just wanted to put a smiling black face over the evil Bof A--who knows? It's still and milestone and no one's really talking about it as much as they should. Now, will Massey stop the lobbying against the credit card bill?
If Mr. Massey was chosen to merely be a "face for" the bank, then clearly nothing is going to change; Massey won't be changing anything; quite frankly because there is no intention on changing.
RobM
When Chris tells me he's lobbying against the credit card bill, I don't expect he will be very independent. As to talking about it it will occur very soon as financial competence issues come up. On the other hand Snob issue on where older African American can go to be rewarded may not be a bad trade off. the younger genereation isn't likely to take the positions now as the opportunity to run your own show is to great.
rikyrah
This was brought to the attention of JJP yesterday. Good questions and comments, Chambers.
isonprize
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