Jack & Jill Politics

They said next Wednesday they will show us their most awesome budget plan.

I don't like it either. It reminds me of those crappy Mr. Fish political cartoons.

I am being generous to Mr Vick and could care less if he plays football again in the NFL. Its the NFL that has a NO gambling policy. However, My wife is a dog lover and thinks he is getting off too damn easy. She wants him treated the same way he treated his dogs.

I know I”m late, but Philly in the House!!

For the Love of Money – the O'Jays

Someone probably already posted this but it is such a beautiful article it is worth repeating. Forgive me but I must post it in it's entirety.

GOP Budget Proposal: Massive Tax Cut For Wealthy

House Republican leaders called a press conference Thursday to unveil their “alternative budget.” While it was thin on specifics, it does include one major policy proposal: a huge tax cut for the wealthy.

Under the Republican plan, the top marginal tax rate would be slashed from 35 to 25 percent, facilitating a dramatic transfer of wealth up the economic scale. Anyone making more than a $100,000 would pay the top rate; those under would pay 10 percent.

“Two nights ago, the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true, because here it is, Mr. President,” said House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), waving a blue document in the air.

“Today we're introducing a detailed road-to-recovery plan,” he told the reporters. Other than the tax proposal, however, the plan was absent any details. Instead, it hammered the Democratic budget as too expensive.

Reporters — mainstream, liberal and conservative — greeted the Republican document with a collective scoff.

“Are you going to have any further details on this today?” the first asked.

“On what?” asked Boehner.

“There's no detail in here,” noted the reporter.

Answered Boehner: “This is a blueprint for where we're going. Are you asking about some other document?”

A second reporter followed up: “What about some numbers? What about the out-year deficit? What about balancing the budget? How are you going to do it?”

“We'll have the alternative budget details next week,” promised Boehner. Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) had wisely departed the room after offering his opening remarks. (“Today's Republican road-to-recovery is the latest in a series of GOP initiatives, solutions and plans,” he had offered.)

A third reporter asked Boehner about the Republican goal for deficit reduction, noting President Obama aimed to cut it in half in five years. “What's your goal?”

“To do better,” said Boehner.

“How? How much?”

“You'll see next week.”

“Wait. Why not today? Because he asked you to present a budget.”

“Now, hold on,” said Boehner. “The president came to Capitol Hill and laid out his blueprint for his budget during the State of the Union. He didn't offer his details until days later.”

“In general, where do you see cuts coming?” the Huffington Post asked.

“We'll wait and see next week,” he said.

Another reporter reminded Boehner that he has “criticized Democrats for throwing together a stimulus quickly and nobody knew what they were voting on. Are you saying that your budget will be unveiled on the same day that the House is expected to vote on it?”

“No, I expect it'll be out next week,” he said, though the House is expected to vote on the budget next week. “But understand that a budget really is a one-page document. It's just a bunch of numbers.”

Though not today, of course.

As Boehner left, a reporter attempted to pin him down on whether the party would oppose all bailouts in the future.

“Mmm,” he said, pausing at the door. “We'll see.”

If Nick Kazur can bring illegal drugs across the Canadian border and then wear a WIRE for the feds to trap his dealer and get NO suspension from the NFL and not have to show this “remorse” bullshit, then Michael Vick shouldn't have to speak a damn word to anyone including Goodell, he should be reinstated because a team wants him to play.

A hearty co-sign.

…or what about the baseball player that beat the shit out of his wife on a public street with witnesses. He was allowed to pitch the next day.

And just to be crystal clear (although it really should not matter) this was a white boy..

Lemme talk to my baseball buddy to see if I can get that name and team…

NFL gambling policy – The National Football League prohibits any association with gamblers or with gambling activities. Such involvement may result in severe penalties, including “a suspension from the NFL for life,” the league's gambling policy states.

The league's strict policy against gambling — addressed in Paragraph 15 of the standard player contract, which deals with integrity of the game issues — goes beyond betting on NFL games. It warns that violations could result in severe penalties up to a lifetime suspension.

Under terms of the policy, a violation could occur by associating with any gambling activities that bring discredit to the NFL.”

I think he brought discredit to the NFL.
Rooney is an owner and not bound by a player contract.

Miranda:Aaaarrrrrrgggg! Man's IN-HUMANITY AGAINST MAN!!

Too bad about legalizing marijuana. Doesn't he know(revving up the way back machine), “dope will get you through times of no money better money will get htrough times of no dope.”

RobM: ***shakin' my head**** LOL! :>)

LOL! BIGGIE. I live in Minnesota, but not in this wingnut's district. Trust me, some of the Anoka County folks don't fall too far from the same tree.

Oh damn…and I thought you were talking about Padres All-star outfielder Brian Giles

http://sportsonmymind.com/2008/12/17/espn-white…

He also beat his girlfriend….in front of witnesses….on video.

I repeat – “Under terms of the policy, a violation could occur by associating with any gambling activities that bring discredit to the NFL.” I think he brought discredit to the NFL. Don't You? After all he is was convicted for running/financing a dog fighting ring for the purpose of gambling.
This was not placing a bet in Vegas. It was a federal offense, yes?
I also repeat – Goodell was giving him a way back into the NFL, in effect giving him a pass for his Federal conviction and for disgusting much of the USofA with his dog fighting practices.
The NFL is an entertainment venue, just like a Chris Brown concert. Does anyone want to pay to see him again?
from wiki – Vick admitted that he provided most of the money for the gambling side of the operation.
The arbitrator agreed with the Falcons' contentions that Vick knew he was engaging in illegal activity when he signed his new contract in 2004, and that he'd even used the bonus money to pay for the operation.
On August 24, Vick filed his plea documents with the federal court. He pled guilty to one felony count of conspiracy to operate an interstate dogfighting ring. In addition, he admitted to providing most of the financing for the operation itself, as well as participating directly in several dog fights in Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina and South Carolina. He also admitted to sharing in the proceeds from these dog fights. He further admitted that he knew his colleagues killed several dogs who didn't perform well enough.
http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0824/vicks… – where Vick admitts that the dog fights were for gambling.
He also submitted a guilty plea to a single Virginia felony charge for dog fighting. That makes him a 2 time loser.
In YOUR subjective mind – was he associated with any gambling activities that brought discredit to the NFL?
I am surprised that you come up in JJP and defend an asshat like Michael VIck.

TRANSLATION: THAT NIGGA BETTA SHUCK N BUCK AND DO THE MANTAN MINSTREL SHOW DANCE ON YOUTUBE WEARING A LAWN JOCKEY OUTFIT BEFORE I'LL EVAH CONSIDER TAKING HIM BACK.

Mike Vick did not PLEAD to any illegal gambling charge – can you not read? You dont have to tell me about the case I already know what he pled too and what he didn't. He didnt plead to any gambling charge, no animal cruelty charge, no violent crime at ALL. He is not a violent offender per the US Justice Dept. You must have Billy Martin confused with Billy Smith down in the public defender's office. The NFL is a business and the game is about winning. You could careless what Nick Kaczur, Jeremy Stevens, Michael Turner, James Harrison, or Charles Grant do. Everybody with a modicum of sense know Mike Vick was prosecuted long before 2007 as Ronnie B pointed out. His sentence started the day he got drafted. From your posts its pretty easy to see that you are one of those who has a beef with all black athletes that don't fit the Tim Duncan/Tiger Woods profile – I'll defend Mike Vick because of the mantans like yourself who just like the AWM's are mad that a pro athlete can make what they make and should be “grateful” 24/7 in YOUR face so as to prove to you that they are.

But since Peter King, Lenny Pasquerelli and Adam Scheftner have already conceded that no suspension is warranted and word in their respective circles is Goodell will reinstate him in Aug – all of this talk is for naught. So tell your wife to start pouting now because that #7 jersey will be the number one seller for 2009, believe that.

And that is exactly why the Angry White Males don't want him to be reinstated…because the free market will hurt their feelings. Vick puts butts in the seats, period. He sells jerseys, period. The Falcons had a 11-5 season and are in full desperation mode right now over season tickets…and its NOT all about the economy.

I've read the summary before – AND?? He did not admit to illegally gambling – PERIOD – no admission of it AT ALL – PERIOD. You aren't actually comprehending the legal jargon – like I said – that's the difference between Billy Martin and Billy Smith. And you seriously did not ask if Mike Vick bought discredit to the NFL – you canNOT be serious. Let's see – did Paul Hornung discredit the NFL? Did Alex Karras? How about OJ Simpson? Lawrence Taylor? How about one of the 80s cokeheads – Marino or Montana? Did they discredit the NFL? Did Michael Irvin and Nate Newton or Troy Aikman? Leonard Little? Nick Kaczur? Bill Belichek? You seriously asking if Michael Vick discredited the National Football League?? ROFLMAO!! You obviously don't watch football, of course that last sentence proves it.

Hitting pregnant women is the equivalent of jaywalking:

Date 3/29/2007
Name Lionel Gates
Team Tampa Bay
Position RB
Incident Arrested, charged with hitting pregnant woman in face.
Resolution Felony battery charge dropped, pretrial intervention program of anger management course and $3,200 in restitution

Didn't get suspended – didn't get cut from team – its all good.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.
I don't think we will reach an agreement about Mr Vick.

Msmartin it was a pure hatred, plain and simple…..my DADDY said they lynched that boy…my UNCLE said they lynched that boy- and they aren't in Atlanta but I am and saw up close and personal a frightening thing happen. I have a lot of friends that USED to be season ticket holders – they have vowed NEVER to step foot in the Dome again unless a hurricane comes thru. Till this day I pray for the morning I wake up and hear on my radio that the AJC has gone completely under. I hope for it EVERYDAY. The media completely lost all credibility with me forEVER – so I was mad before I even started paying attention to the primaries. I am so done with the mainstream press and that half-azz biased reporting. I wish I could find the column I read back before the indictment, it was by Desi Cortez on blackathlete.com – I think the title was “Get Ya Ropes Boys, there's gonna be a hangin” – but I can't find it now. It was so on point about the whole thing.

As to the Rooneys – my post clearly states that they “ARE NOT BOUND BY A PLAYER CONTRACT”.
Mr Rooney , Mr Obama's new ambassador designate to Ireland, and his family are not subject to to paragraph 15 of the standard players contract. They are not a discredit to the NFL. How their situation with the NFL will play out is anyones guess. The team is worth 900 million to 1.2 billion or so and no one has been able to come up with the money to buy out the brothers. But the NFL is making an attempt to push them out of ownership based on their gambling interests.

Oh I see…./snark……..but the Rooney's can clearly violate the owner's contract and that's ok because the team is worth a whole lot….because I know you have completely lost your mind if you think for a hot second that the league is attempting to “push” the Rooney family out of ownership. You need to put down the drugs right now if THAT'S what you believe.

You know the difference between a civil complaint and a CRIMINAL complaint right…no? Well, its kinda clear you don't.

10. Will the charges filed by the U.S. Department of Labor over the misuse of pension funds hurt Vick’s re-instatement campaign?

No. It’s clear from the bankruptcy that he was receiving a lot of bad financial advice and likely faces a fine and possibly restitution.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcon…

Didn't you know Vick filed a lawsuit against his former financial adviser that is named in the Dept of Labor complaint 2 months ago?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?sid=abEcL.4b…