<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: And We Wonder Why The Democrats Shoot Themselves in the Foot</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:32:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: African mango plus</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-556376</link> <dc:creator>African mango plus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:04:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-556376</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Yes, changing the title will affect your position in search engine rankings but if you are making it more relevant and targeting more popular terms then it should be better in the long run, after a while you should start going up in search results ...&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;When you add a picture to a post it give you the option to specify a Link URL.&quot;...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Yes, changing the title will affect your position in search engine rankings but if you are making it more relevant and targeting more popular terms then it should be better in the long run, after a while you should start going up in search results &#8230;</strong></p><p>&#8220;When you add a picture to a post it give you the option to specify a Link URL.&#8221;&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Acts Of Faith Blog</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-349072</link> <dc:creator>Acts Of Faith Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:33:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-349072</guid> <description>It&#039;s my understanding that the tax code for bonuses requires a minimum 42% rate so why not hike it up to the highest amount available under the law? &lt;br&gt;Oh I see Miranda&#039;s comment. I hated getting bonuses taxed that high - it was like what&#039;s the point? But we&#039;ll see what loopholes they find because you just know there&#039;s some written in the tax codes. Or they&#039;ll pay less on their regular salary or write something off.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s my understanding that the tax code for bonuses requires a minimum 42% rate so why not hike it up to the highest amount available under the law? <br />Oh I see Miranda&#39;s comment. I hated getting bonuses taxed that high &#8211; it was like what&#39;s the point? But we&#39;ll see what loopholes they find because you just know there&#39;s some written in the tax codes. Or they&#39;ll pay less on their regular salary or write something off.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: heartsandflowers</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168864</link> <dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:33:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168864</guid> <description>It&#039;s my understanding that the tax code for bonuses requires a minimum 42% rate so why not hike it up to the highest amount available under the law? &lt;br&gt;Oh I see Miranda&#039;s comment. I hated getting bonuses taxed that high - it was like what&#039;s the point? But we&#039;ll see what loopholes they find because you just know there&#039;s some written in the tax codes. Or they&#039;ll pay less on their regular salary or write something off.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s my understanding that the tax code for bonuses requires a minimum 42% rate so why not hike it up to the highest amount available under the law? <br />Oh I see Miranda&#39;s comment. I hated getting bonuses taxed that high &#8211; it was like what&#39;s the point? But we&#39;ll see what loopholes they find because you just know there&#39;s some written in the tax codes. Or they&#39;ll pay less on their regular salary or write something off.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168388</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:03:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168388</guid> <description>I love that you call him Champagne Charlie..LOL</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that you call him Champagne Charlie..LOL</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PTCruiser</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168372</link> <dc:creator>PTCruiser</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:42:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168372</guid> <description>You are now trying to argue a different point as if there is an equivalency between honoring contracts with firms that have voluntarily entered into a agreements with the federal government to deliver goods and/or services, and firms that are wholly dependent on receiving federal funds (corporate welfare payments) in order to survive expecting that the public treasury should also support promises these companies have made to their employees many of whom played a substantial role in destroying the gross and net profitability of their employers. Apples and oranges.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are now trying to argue a different point as if there is an equivalency between honoring contracts with firms that have voluntarily entered into a agreements with the federal government to deliver goods and/or services, and firms that are wholly dependent on receiving federal funds (corporate welfare payments) in order to survive expecting that the public treasury should also support promises these companies have made to their employees many of whom played a substantial role in destroying the gross and net profitability of their employers. Apples and oranges.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Conserv1</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168336</link> <dc:creator>Conserv1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:49:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168336</guid> <description>The bigger problem here is that we gave money to foreign banks and firms like Goldman Sachs and allowed them to take NO LOSSES. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The President and his Treasury Secretary in cooperation with Congress allowed for the exclusion of the payments. They wrote the provision, stuffed in into a huge bill that neither the public or our representatives had time to read, much less debate and scrutinize, and signed it into LAW. No they want to undue the damage by throwing together a law that is possibly unconstitutional and definitely bad policy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Consider this a tax on contracting. The primary risk is that Congress will use this and other controversies to weaken the mechanisms of private ordering, such as contractual rights that are at the core of our economic freedom and prosperity. Striking down contracts arbitrarily, because they have attracted public scorn or offend lawmakers in some way, puts at risk the making and enforcing agreements across the economy by reducing the certainty of ALL agreements. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Madison himself described the slippery slope that would result: The more the legislative branch interferes in private affairs, the more who will demand that it interfere in their affairs, to their advantage, and the less the role private agreements will play in economic life.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger problem here is that we gave money to foreign banks and firms like Goldman Sachs and allowed them to take NO LOSSES.</p><p>The President and his Treasury Secretary in cooperation with Congress allowed for the exclusion of the payments. They wrote the provision, stuffed in into a huge bill that neither the public or our representatives had time to read, much less debate and scrutinize, and signed it into LAW. No they want to undue the damage by throwing together a law that is possibly unconstitutional and definitely bad policy.</p><p>Consider this a tax on contracting. The primary risk is that Congress will use this and other controversies to weaken the mechanisms of private ordering, such as contractual rights that are at the core of our economic freedom and prosperity. Striking down contracts arbitrarily, because they have attracted public scorn or offend lawmakers in some way, puts at risk the making and enforcing agreements across the economy by reducing the certainty of ALL agreements.</p><p>Madison himself described the slippery slope that would result: The more the legislative branch interferes in private affairs, the more who will demand that it interfere in their affairs, to their advantage, and the less the role private agreements will play in economic life.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Miranda</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168292</link> <dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:46:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168292</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/attention-whore/2/attention-whore-advisory-system.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/attention-...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/attention-whore/2/attention-whore-advisory-system.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/attention-&#8230;</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PTCruiser</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168258</link> <dc:creator>PTCruiser</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:01:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168258</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;First AIG Bonuses...then, what next? This type of confiscatory tax policy &#039;witch hunt&#039; may satisfy many but it will not help untangle and solve the web of insolvency ensnaring our financial system. Which is the heart of the problem.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the confiscatory acts here are pretty much confined to the managers and staff of AIG. Thanks to their financial engineering AIG would be bankrupt save for funds it has received from the public treasury. None of these folks deserve or are entitled to receive any bonuses. If the consequences of capitalism are good enough for folks like us, then it is even more beneficial for the folks at AIG.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are defending the indefensible.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>First AIG Bonuses&#8230;then, what next? This type of confiscatory tax policy &#39;witch hunt&#39; may satisfy many but it will not help untangle and solve the web of insolvency ensnaring our financial system. Which is the heart of the problem.</i></p><p>I think the confiscatory acts here are pretty much confined to the managers and staff of AIG. Thanks to their financial engineering AIG would be bankrupt save for funds it has received from the public treasury. None of these folks deserve or are entitled to receive any bonuses. If the consequences of capitalism are good enough for folks like us, then it is even more beneficial for the folks at AIG.</p><p>You are defending the indefensible.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Conserv1</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168244</link> <dc:creator>Conserv1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:53:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168244</guid> <description>How do you feel about the bonuses and the retroactive tax?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you feel about the bonuses and the retroactive tax?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168243</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:49:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168243</guid> <description>Use it all the time. If you can get the pistol in her mouth it would be more appropriate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use it all the time. If you can get the pistol in her mouth it would be more appropriate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Conserv1</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168239</link> <dc:creator>Conserv1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:38:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168239</guid> <description>&quot;So, asking for Corporate Welfare and spending the money on anything but saving their businesses isn’t CRIMINAL? &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When we were asked to support earmarks, what was the argument in defense of the spending? &quot;Not all of it is wasteful. What seems wasteful to may be necessary for other. It&#039;s such a small percentage...and so on. When we were asked to support the mortgage bailout program, we worried about rewarding speculators and fraudulent borrowers and Larry Summers told us that that might happen, but in the end we would all benefit from the plan. How is this different.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I actually have no problem with the bonuses. I just wish that instead of acting &#039;shocked&#039; and &#039;stunned&#039; that the President and the administration would come out and EXPLAIN and DEFEND the decision to allow the bonuses. Sure, it will be uncomfortable and difficult, and it is a tough pill for many to swallow, even the President himself, but it is one of the hard choices they made on behalf of the American people.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, asking for Corporate Welfare and spending the money on anything but saving their businesses isn’t CRIMINAL? &#8220;</p><p>When we were asked to support earmarks, what was the argument in defense of the spending? &#8220;Not all of it is wasteful. What seems wasteful to may be necessary for other. It&#39;s such a small percentage&#8230;and so on. When we were asked to support the mortgage bailout program, we worried about rewarding speculators and fraudulent borrowers and Larry Summers told us that that might happen, but in the end we would all benefit from the plan. How is this different.</p><p>I actually have no problem with the bonuses. I just wish that instead of acting &#39;shocked&#39; and &#39;stunned&#39; that the President and the administration would come out and EXPLAIN and DEFEND the decision to allow the bonuses. Sure, it will be uncomfortable and difficult, and it is a tough pill for many to swallow, even the President himself, but it is one of the hard choices they made on behalf of the American people.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Conserv1</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168236</link> <dc:creator>Conserv1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:30:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168236</guid> <description>Inside AIG-FP, Feeling the Public&#039;s Wrath&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/18/AR2009031804104.html?sid=ST2009031801503&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other side of the story.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The administration and government need experienced experts to help solve this crisis. These experts are found on Wall Street. The administration&#039;s plan to rid insolvent banks of toxic assets depends on a GOVERNMENT/WALL STREET PARTNERSHIP that will help ALL OF US.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inside AIG-FP, Feeling the Public&#39;s Wrath<br /><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/18/AR2009031804104.html?sid=ST2009031801503" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar&#8230;</a></p><p>The other side of the story.</p><p>The administration and government need experienced experts to help solve this crisis. These experts are found on Wall Street. The administration&#39;s plan to rid insolvent banks of toxic assets depends on a GOVERNMENT/WALL STREET PARTNERSHIP that will help ALL OF US.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Conserv1</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168235</link> <dc:creator>Conserv1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:22:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168235</guid> <description>&quot;I’m sorry, but if the bailout money isn’t going to be used for keeping AIG in business, making these mofos pay their fair share of Income Taxes on their ill-gotten gains is EXACTLY THE WAY TO GO.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First AIG Bonuses...then, what next? This type of confiscatory tax policy &#039;witch hunt&#039; may satisfy many but it will not help untangle and solve the web on insolvency ensnaring our financial system. Which is the heart of the problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AIG&#039;s problems are our problems. This tax policy threatens to do substantial damage to other institutions being swept up in it.  &quot;The power to tax is the power to destroy.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As one critic writes:&lt;br&gt;&quot;rolling this ex post tax out at the same time the Fed and Treasury are trying to encourage private investors to partner up with the government to get the credit markets moving again is insane.  What investor needs the likely aggravation to follow?  Who needs to be hauled in front of Barney Frank a year from now in order to be blasted as a profiteer who exploited our national crisis for his own profit, which Barney will then tax back?  Who will be daft enough to come out of retirement as Liddy did to endure the abuse Liddy took?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The WSJ also makes the point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123742023932678335.html?mod=rss_opinion_main&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123742023932678...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Right now it&#039;s AIG and Fannie Mae; later it will be Merrill and Citibank, and eventually it will be defense contractors, profiteering oil executives, or whomever the Congressional Dems wish to single out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m sorry, but if the bailout money isn’t going to be used for keeping AIG in business, making these mofos pay their fair share of Income Taxes on their ill-gotten gains is EXACTLY THE WAY TO GO.&#8221;</p><p>First AIG Bonuses&#8230;then, what next? This type of confiscatory tax policy &#39;witch hunt&#39; may satisfy many but it will not help untangle and solve the web on insolvency ensnaring our financial system. Which is the heart of the problem.</p><p>AIG&#39;s problems are our problems. This tax policy threatens to do substantial damage to other institutions being swept up in it.  &#8220;The power to tax is the power to destroy.&#8221;</p><p>As one critic writes:<br />&#8220;rolling this ex post tax out at the same time the Fed and Treasury are trying to encourage private investors to partner up with the government to get the credit markets moving again is insane.  What investor needs the likely aggravation to follow?  Who needs to be hauled in front of Barney Frank a year from now in order to be blasted as a profiteer who exploited our national crisis for his own profit, which Barney will then tax back?  Who will be daft enough to come out of retirement as Liddy did to endure the abuse Liddy took?&#8221;</p><p>The WSJ also makes the point.<br /><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123742023932678335.html?mod=rss_opinion_main" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123742023932678&#8230;</a></p><p>Right now it&#39;s AIG and Fannie Mae; later it will be Merrill and Citibank, and eventually it will be defense contractors, profiteering oil executives, or whomever the Congressional Dems wish to single out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Miranda</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168228</link> <dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:42:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168228</guid> <description>&quot;introduced a provision that would have forced bailout recipients to cap their bonuses at $100,000.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hold up....I&#039;ve received bonuses before and they were always taxed at 42% and I never ever ever never got a bonus in the vicinity of $100,000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the hope is that no one that will be affected by the 90% tax will actually take this to court because we all know if they do, they win.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;introduced a provision that would have forced bailout recipients to cap their bonuses at $100,000.&#8221;</p><p>Hold up&#8230;.I&#39;ve received bonuses before and they were always taxed at 42% and I never ever ever never got a bonus in the vicinity of $100,000.</p><p>But the hope is that no one that will be affected by the 90% tax will actually take this to court because we all know if they do, they win.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micheline</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/03/and-we-wonder-why-the-democrats-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-168226</link> <dc:creator>Micheline</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:07:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=9363#comment-168226</guid> <description>So this bonus issue is like Iraq where 100,000  Iraqis and  4,000 American troops died. Yeah, I see.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this bonus issue is like Iraq where 100,000  Iraqis and  4,000 American troops died. Yeah, I see.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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