<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Wednesday Open Thread</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:52:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: NO_ID</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-339676</link> <dc:creator>NO_ID</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:23:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-339676</guid> <description>I mean, what&#039;s the point of bringing the b.s. here? If not just so that folks will give them more attention than they deserve since they are clearly the oppositional view....i can read that view on SEVERAL other sites...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, what&#39;s the point of bringing the b.s. here? If not just so that folks will give them more attention than they deserve since they are clearly the oppositional view&#8230;.i can read that view on SEVERAL other sites&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NO_ID</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-160248</link> <dc:creator>NO_ID</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:23:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-160248</guid> <description>I mean, what&#039;s the point of bringing the b.s. here? If not just so that folks will give them more attention than they deserve since they are clearly the oppositional view....i can read that view on SEVERAL other sites...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, what&#39;s the point of bringing the b.s. here? If not just so that folks will give them more attention than they deserve since they are clearly the oppositional view&#8230;.i can read that view on SEVERAL other sites&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NO_ID</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-142481</link> <dc:creator>NO_ID</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-142481</guid> <description>I mean, what&#039;s the point of bringing the b.s. here? If not just so that folks will give them more attention than they deserve since they are clearly the oppositional view....i can read that view on SEVERAL other sites...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, what&#39;s the point of bringing the b.s. here? If not just so that folks will give them more attention than they deserve since they are clearly the oppositional view&#8230;.i can read that view on SEVERAL other sites&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pjamma</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-142078</link> <dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:48:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-142078</guid> <description>Conserv1 and PiePiePie post here every day.  How are they trolls?  Just  because you don&#039;t agree?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conserv1 and PiePiePie post here every day.  How are they trolls?  Just  because you don&#39;t agree?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pjamma</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-142077</link> <dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:46:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-142077</guid> <description>Oh, the drama.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the drama.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Plantsmantx</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141919</link> <dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:50:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141919</guid> <description>Well, since it&#039;s a done deal, there&#039;s no point in arguing a whole lot about it, but the rational Clinton supporters would have been on his side anyway, once he got elected. The irrational ones are pretty much still against him. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I have no problem with him making political manuevers, but I don&#039;t think this one was especially productive. Again, he ended up with an SoS he can&#039;t trust. Now, if the goal was to provide us with the entertainment that comes from being able to point and laugh at HRC, then it works. Aside from that....well, you know.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since it&#39;s a done deal, there&#39;s no point in arguing a whole lot about it, but the rational Clinton supporters would have been on his side anyway, once he got elected. The irrational ones are pretty much still against him. Don&#39;t get me wrong, I have no problem with him making political manuevers, but I don&#39;t think this one was especially productive. Again, he ended up with an SoS he can&#39;t trust. Now, if the goal was to provide us with the entertainment that comes from being able to point and laugh at HRC, then it works. Aside from that&#8230;.well, you know.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141909</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:29:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141909</guid> <description>PPP,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again your failure to comprehend how the two are analogous does not make it a &#039;weak analogy&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It does imply you lack the inferential reasoning to deduce how the analogy is dead on target.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPP,</p><p>Again your failure to comprehend how the two are analogous does not make it a &#39;weak analogy&#39;.</p><p>It does imply you lack the inferential reasoning to deduce how the analogy is dead on target.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Piepiepie</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141872</link> <dc:creator>Piepiepie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141872</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fallacyfiles.org/wanalogy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fallacyfiles.org/wanalogy.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fallacies.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fallaci...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;weak analogy&quot; It&#039;s logical fallacy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not wasting any more time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/wanalogy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fallacyfiles.org/wanalogy.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fallacies.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fallaci&#8230;</a><br />&#8220;weak analogy&#8221; It&#39;s logical fallacy.</p><p>I&#39;m not wasting any more time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141866</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141866</guid> <description>No weak analogy is not rhetorical, it is specify. When you say I am comparing 2 things that are not comparable what you actually mean is that you are unable to discern how they are alike. That does not make it rhetorical it makes it a lack of comprehension on your part.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Swastikas need not represent anything in any part of the world for the analogy to make since in a HISTORICAL context, which is what the point being made focused on the HISTORICAL context of apes/monkeys used to represent people of African origin. Just as swastikas represent the symbol of the group of people who persecuted jews.  It is a specific analogy based on HISTORICAL IMAGES.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both the swastika and apes conjure up specifiy images based on history and how they were used.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you are trying to do is say that apes can have more than one meaning. I don&#039;t disagree with apes can be used to depict other things but I also know that in this instance the ape was used to represent a black man. A black man who just so happens to be President, and who just so happens to have a stimulus package in the news media the pass few days and which is being called OBAMA&#039;s stimulus bill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The purpose of cartoons is to represent WITH IMAGES and the cartoonist knew exactly what he was doing when he had those police officers SHOOT &amp; KILL the APE representing the President of the United States.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the cartoonist wanted to get at congress he could have depicted CONGRESS as being shot by using the symbol of the democratic party or Congress caricatured as an ape. He did not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I used the picture of the swastika because it is HISTORICAL symbol of hate and persecution just as the ape is an HISTORICAL symbol of racism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s clearly umambiguously RACIST given the history of America using monkeys and apes to sterotypically depict black people as the stupid as apes.  After all, why would they need someone else to re-write the bill if it had NOT been written by the &#039;ape&#039; we have for a president?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is a stretch when you do not recognize the long standing racist history of America being just as universally evil, pervasive and oppressive in American society  is not recognized as you attempt  to deny America&#039;s historical past and the stereotypical images used to perpetuate that racism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That  is the only thing absurd here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me ask you a question. Is there any symbol or image that you do believe is an American racist stereotype?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or are all of them ambiguous to you?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No weak analogy is not rhetorical, it is specify. When you say I am comparing 2 things that are not comparable what you actually mean is that you are unable to discern how they are alike. That does not make it rhetorical it makes it a lack of comprehension on your part.</p><p>Swastikas need not represent anything in any part of the world for the analogy to make since in a HISTORICAL context, which is what the point being made focused on the HISTORICAL context of apes/monkeys used to represent people of African origin. Just as swastikas represent the symbol of the group of people who persecuted jews.  It is a specific analogy based on HISTORICAL IMAGES.</p><p>Both the swastika and apes conjure up specifiy images based on history and how they were used.</p><p>What you are trying to do is say that apes can have more than one meaning. I don&#39;t disagree with apes can be used to depict other things but I also know that in this instance the ape was used to represent a black man. A black man who just so happens to be President, and who just so happens to have a stimulus package in the news media the pass few days and which is being called OBAMA&#39;s stimulus bill.</p><p>The purpose of cartoons is to represent WITH IMAGES and the cartoonist knew exactly what he was doing when he had those police officers SHOOT &#038; KILL the APE representing the President of the United States.</p><p>If the cartoonist wanted to get at congress he could have depicted CONGRESS as being shot by using the symbol of the democratic party or Congress caricatured as an ape. He did not.</p><p>I used the picture of the swastika because it is HISTORICAL symbol of hate and persecution just as the ape is an HISTORICAL symbol of racism.</p><p>It&#39;s clearly umambiguously RACIST given the history of America using monkeys and apes to sterotypically depict black people as the stupid as apes.  After all, why would they need someone else to re-write the bill if it had NOT been written by the &#39;ape&#39; we have for a president?</p><p>It is a stretch when you do not recognize the long standing racist history of America being just as universally evil, pervasive and oppressive in American society  is not recognized as you attempt  to deny America&#39;s historical past and the stereotypical images used to perpetuate that racism.</p><p>That  is the only thing absurd here.</p><p>Let me ask you a question. Is there any symbol or image that you do believe is an American racist stereotype?</p><p>Or are all of them ambiguous to you?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lamh32</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141843</link> <dc:creator>lamh32</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:35:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141843</guid> <description>Oh NOES!!! What will Rush, Hannity, Ingraham and the rest of RW Radio do now? 1 strawman down,  many more to come I guess.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0209/no_fairness_doctrine_c2eaedcb-28dd-41c4-a3f5-aef5c9fff54a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No &#039;fairness doctrine&#039;, Obama opposes radio regulation &lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh NOES!!! What will Rush, Hannity, Ingraham and the rest of RW Radio do now? 1 strawman down,  many more to come I guess.</p><p><a href="http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0209/no_fairness_doctrine_c2eaedcb-28dd-41c4-a3f5-aef5c9fff54a.html" rel="nofollow">No &#39;fairness doctrine&#39;, Obama opposes radio regulation </a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lamh32</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141830</link> <dc:creator>lamh32</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141830</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/gopers-take-credit-for-stimulus-law-they-opposed.php#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GOPers Take Credit For Stimulus Law They Opposed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Displaying unexpected care for &quot;the welfare of congressional Dems,&quot; as TPM alum Greg notes, the National Review suggested yesterday that President Obama was hogging the spotlight by signing the stimulus bill into law alone, sans Senate and House Democrats.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The notion that conservatives watched yesterday&#039;s bill signing and asked themselves, &quot;Why aren&#039;t Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid getting their moment in the sun?!&quot; is pretty hilarious. But here&#039;s something even funnier: Four House Republicans have come out in recent days taking credit for the passage of an economic recovery plan that every single member of their party opposed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a list of the GOPers in question and their faux-victory laps, courtesy of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Representative Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO) - &quot;Luetkemeyer said the project is considered &#039;shovel ready&#039; and that&#039;s what the economy needs. President Darrell Krueger and Luetkemeyer discussed the educational benefits of the economic stimulus package.&quot; [KTVO-TV, 2/17/09] &lt;br&gt;Representative Don Young (AK) - &quot;Alaskan Congressman Don Young won a victory for the Alaska Native contracting program and other Alaska small business owners last night in H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. [Congressman Don Young&#039;s Press Release; 2/13/09]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Representative Ken Calvert (CA) - &quot;All of us in the Inland Empire will do what we can to direct as much money as we can.&quot; [The Press Enterprise; 2/13/09]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Representative John Mica (FL) - &quot;I applaud President Obama&#039;s recognition that high-speed rail should be part of America&#039;s future,&quot; [Congressman John Mica Press Release; 2/13/09]&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/gopers-take-credit-for-stimulus-law-they-opposed.php#comments" rel="nofollow">GOPers Take Credit For Stimulus Law They Opposed</a></p><p>&#8220;Displaying unexpected care for &#8220;the welfare of congressional Dems,&#8221; as TPM alum Greg notes, the National Review suggested yesterday that President Obama was hogging the spotlight by signing the stimulus bill into law alone, sans Senate and House Democrats.</p><p>The notion that conservatives watched yesterday&#39;s bill signing and asked themselves, &#8220;Why aren&#39;t Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid getting their moment in the sun?!&#8221; is pretty hilarious. But here&#39;s something even funnier: Four House Republicans have come out in recent days taking credit for the passage of an economic recovery plan that every single member of their party opposed.</p><p>Here&#39;s a list of the GOPers in question and their faux-victory laps, courtesy of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee:</p><p>Representative Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO) &#8211; &#8220;Luetkemeyer said the project is considered &#39;shovel ready&#39; and that&#39;s what the economy needs. President Darrell Krueger and Luetkemeyer discussed the educational benefits of the economic stimulus package.&#8221; [KTVO-TV, 2/17/09] <br />Representative Don Young (AK) &#8211; &#8220;Alaskan Congressman Don Young won a victory for the Alaska Native contracting program and other Alaska small business owners last night in H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. [Congressman Don Young&#39;s Press Release; 2/13/09]</p><p>Representative Ken Calvert (CA) &#8211; &#8220;All of us in the Inland Empire will do what we can to direct as much money as we can.&#8221; [The Press Enterprise; 2/13/09]</p><p>Representative John Mica (FL) &#8211; &#8220;I applaud President Obama&#39;s recognition that high-speed rail should be part of America&#39;s future,&#8221; [Congressman John Mica Press Release; 2/13/09]&#8220;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GreenLadyHere</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141826</link> <dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141826</guid> <description>spirit:     LOL!    :&gt;)  Good one!   :&gt;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spirit:     LOL!    :&gt;)  Good one!   :&gt;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141825</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:10:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141825</guid> <description>Yet you can&#039;t see that shooting a money named stimulus package isn&#039;t racist. WOW!?????</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet you can&#39;t see that shooting a money named stimulus package isn&#39;t racist. WOW!?????</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GreenLadyHere</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141824</link> <dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141824</guid> <description>BarackMarley:  LOL!   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WE   R  YOUTHFUL  Bloggers - - HUH?     :&gt;)     :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;[I&#039;m happy ta B youthful - - in 1 area!  :&gt;)      :&gt;)]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Annnnnd, U R  entitled to your opinion.  The 1st Amendment is still in the Constitution.   :&gt;)    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me, however,  I don&#039;t STRATIFY RACISM [usually. :&gt;)]  It is or it isn&#039;t,  I don&#039;t care what else is goin&#039; on.   I don&#039;t use FILTERS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sooo, &quot;way worse&quot; - - - -hmmm.  **shrug**&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyhoo  - - -   Nice CHATTIN&#039; with  U!   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BarackMarley:  LOL!   :&gt;)</p><p>WE   R  YOUTHFUL  Bloggers &#8211; - HUH?     :&gt;)     :&gt;)<br />[I&#39;m happy ta B youthful - - in 1 area!  :&gt;)      :&gt;)]</p><p>Annnnnd, U R  entitled to your opinion.  The 1st Amendment is still in the Constitution.   :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p><p>For me, however,  I don&#39;t STRATIFY RACISM [usually. :&gt;)]  It is or it isn&#39;t,  I don&#39;t care what else is goin&#39; on.   I don&#39;t use FILTERS.</p><p>Sooo, &#8220;way worse&#8221; &#8211; - &#8211; -hmmm.  **shrug**</p><p>Anyhoo  &#8211; - &#8211;   Nice CHATTIN&#39; with  U!   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141823</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:06:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141823</guid> <description>The constitution of the state of ILL is the law. When a senator dies or moves on  the governor appoints. It is why PE Obama shut up as he was maing afool of himself as a consitutional scholar. Each state is different. Look at how important it was for Caroline Kennedy be appointed. It wasn&#039;t just because of Obama or legacy but the fact she could raise money for two Senate campaigns under NY&#039;s constitution. Minnesota law says Franken can&#039;t take the seat until all the law issues are settled.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The constitution of the state of ILL is the law. When a senator dies or moves on  the governor appoints. It is why PE Obama shut up as he was maing afool of himself as a consitutional scholar. Each state is different. Look at how important it was for Caroline Kennedy be appointed. It wasn&#39;t just because of Obama or legacy but the fact she could raise money for two Senate campaigns under NY&#39;s constitution. Minnesota law says Franken can&#39;t take the seat until all the law issues are settled.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nate_Wesley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141821</link> <dc:creator>Nate_Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:01:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141821</guid> <description>I asked the same question after thinking about the cartoon critically.  I&#039;ll rehash quickly what I spelled out in the &quot;Another Racist Cartoon&quot; blog post: What is it about both the stimulus story and the crazy chimp story that has a humorous angle?  The two stories share no parallels that anyone could remotely find chuckleworthy (one aims to deal with our crappy financial system, the other involving a woman who almost died in a freak occurrance).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What reason would any editorial cartoonist tie these two stories together if they wanted say something worthwhile?  The cartoon fails, even within the realm of political satire.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked the same question after thinking about the cartoon critically.  I&#39;ll rehash quickly what I spelled out in the &#8220;Another Racist Cartoon&#8221; blog post: What is it about both the stimulus story and the crazy chimp story that has a humorous angle?  The two stories share no parallels that anyone could remotely find chuckleworthy (one aims to deal with our crappy financial system, the other involving a woman who almost died in a freak occurrance).</p><p>What reason would any editorial cartoonist tie these two stories together if they wanted say something worthwhile?  The cartoon fails, even within the realm of political satire.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GreenLadyHere</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141814</link> <dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:45:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141814</guid> <description>spirit:   &lt;i&gt;Where are the Tamryn Halls, Joe Johns, Roland Martins, Don Lemmons, Soladad O&#039;Briens.... calling out this shit for what it is. Or do they need a paycheck like the rest of&#039;em?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;YEAH!!???&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wasn&#039;t it just a few days ago that Mr. Roland JUMPED OFF on Mr. President for some rather LO LEVEL IRE OF HIS!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;NOW????    WHERE U AT!!???&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good point!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spirit: <i>Where are the Tamryn Halls, Joe Johns, Roland Martins, Don Lemmons, Soladad O&#39;Briens&#8230;. calling out this shit for what it is. Or do they need a paycheck like the rest of&#39;em?</i></p><p>YEAH!!???</p><p>Wasn&#39;t it just a few days ago that Mr. Roland JUMPED OFF on Mr. President for some rather LO LEVEL IRE OF HIS!!</p><p>NOW????    WHERE U AT!!???</p><p>Good point!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RobM</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141812</link> <dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:45:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141812</guid> <description>Thiinking strategically is the most important part D. your argument has always been what Bush did was needed. You have even gone so far as to say Bush would fall on his sword in court to take responsiblity. After discussions, on  this blog, pointing out Bush could have achieved much of what he wanted had he gone through the political process prior to the invasion of Iraq you became a little less sure. Part of those discussions were a recognizition that as a country of laws we lost prestige as a leader because we resorted to fiat and not the political process.&lt;br&gt;President Obama has brought back that prestige to the point people are re-arresting Islamist whom were given parole, that others are willing to take Islamist parolee&#039;s and finding a political process to try Islamists in open court. further strategic gains have been made because we are having open discussions about how to go forward in stopping the Islamists.&lt;br&gt;So please continue to understand there is always something to think about. This is not the shoot out mano a mano.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thiinking strategically is the most important part D. your argument has always been what Bush did was needed. You have even gone so far as to say Bush would fall on his sword in court to take responsiblity. After discussions, on  this blog, pointing out Bush could have achieved much of what he wanted had he gone through the political process prior to the invasion of Iraq you became a little less sure. Part of those discussions were a recognizition that as a country of laws we lost prestige as a leader because we resorted to fiat and not the political process.<br />President Obama has brought back that prestige to the point people are re-arresting Islamist whom were given parole, that others are willing to take Islamist parolee&#39;s and finding a political process to try Islamists in open court. further strategic gains have been made because we are having open discussions about how to go forward in stopping the Islamists.<br />So please continue to understand there is always something to think about. This is not the shoot out mano a mano.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GreenLadyHere</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141811</link> <dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:42:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141811</guid> <description>Miranda:   You just SPEAK!!    :&gt;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda:   You just SPEAK!!    :&gt;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BarackMarley</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/wednesday-open-thread-30/comment-page-1/#comment-141806</link> <dc:creator>BarackMarley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:32:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=7926#comment-141806</guid> <description>Okay you got me the cartoon was racist. I&#039;ve only been blogging 7 months so you got an edge. Cartoons is a mother huh..first the Dutch cartoonist and Mohammed now Obama and the post..good call on signifying.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is this the signifying monkey dolemite was talking about?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still i think dude&#039;s hamas cartoons was way worse..justifying the deaths of innocent civilians.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay you got me the cartoon was racist. I&#39;ve only been blogging 7 months so you got an edge. Cartoons is a mother huh..first the Dutch cartoonist and Mohammed now Obama and the post..good call on signifying.</p><p>Is this the signifying monkey dolemite was talking about?</p><p>Still i think dude&#39;s hamas cartoons was way worse..justifying the deaths of innocent civilians.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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