<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: It Takes a Nation of Cowards to Prove Eric Holder Right</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:13:11 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: African mango plus</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-556074</link> <dc:creator>African mango plus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:29:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-556074</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Yes you can. Just make sure that your hosting service has fast MySQL servers, that makes all the difference in the world.&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;Self hosting is the way to go. From my point of view Wordpress is really great. Simple to do the job with. I will recommend Wordpress any day of the week.&quot;...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Yes you can. Just make sure that your hosting service has fast MySQL servers, that makes all the difference in the world.&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p><p>&#8220;Self hosting is the way to go. From my point of view WordPress is really great. Simple to do the job with. I will recommend WordPress any day of the week.&#8221;&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-348542</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:12:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-348542</guid> <description>I will answer you leading question if only to give you ammunition (it should be a word to the wise though). I do not know if I&#039;ve enjoyed privilege and entitlement due to the color of my skin. I don&#039;t feel &quot;white guilt&quot; for being born white. I did not perpetrate anything on any other person just by being white. It&#039;s intellectually lazy to project racism onto anyone because of their color. Is the hostility about justice then? I can never totally understand what it means to be black, any more than being Asian or Latino. Does that mean I am a racist?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A lot of words you use to make MY point. The first question you had for me is &quot;do you make racially biased statements?&quot; *DO I?* I have pointed out the damaging stereotypes used against blacks AND whites, and you become unhinged. Do I have the right to discuss them? You seem to know all of them well, do you use them daily as you have just then? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dialog we&#039;ve had seems to be about differences only. Holder&#039;s comments were a slap in MY face just because I have not been a shrinking violet on the issues at hand. I&#039;m not &quot;blaming the victim&quot;, but I want to hold everyone accountable. Do I owe black Americans something different than I owe everyone else?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will answer you leading question if only to give you ammunition (it should be a word to the wise though). I do not know if I&#39;ve enjoyed privilege and entitlement due to the color of my skin. I don&#39;t feel &#8220;white guilt&#8221; for being born white. I did not perpetrate anything on any other person just by being white. It&#39;s intellectually lazy to project racism onto anyone because of their color. Is the hostility about justice then? I can never totally understand what it means to be black, any more than being Asian or Latino. Does that mean I am a racist?</p><p>A lot of words you use to make MY point. The first question you had for me is &#8220;do you make racially biased statements?&#8221; *DO I?* I have pointed out the damaging stereotypes used against blacks AND whites, and you become unhinged. Do I have the right to discuss them? You seem to know all of them well, do you use them daily as you have just then?</p><p>The dialog we&#39;ve had seems to be about differences only. Holder&#39;s comments were a slap in MY face just because I have not been a shrinking violet on the issues at hand. I&#39;m not &#8220;blaming the victim&#8221;, but I want to hold everyone accountable. Do I owe black Americans something different than I owe everyone else?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-160054</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:12:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-160054</guid> <description>I will answer you leading question if only to give you ammunition (it should be a word to the wise though). I do not know if I&#039;ve enjoyed privilege and entitlement due to the color of my skin. I don&#039;t feel &quot;white guilt&quot; for being born white. I did not perpetrate anything on any other person just by being white. It&#039;s intellectually lazy to project racism onto anyone because of their color. Is the hostility about justice then? I can never totally understand what it means to be black, any more than being Asian or Latino. Does that mean I am a racist?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A lot of words you use to make MY point. The first question you had for me is &quot;do you make racially biased statements?&quot; *DO I?* I have pointed out the damaging stereotypes used against blacks AND whites, and you become unhinged. Do I have the right to discuss them? You seem to know all of them well, do you use them daily as you have just then? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dialog we&#039;ve had seems to be about differences only. Holder&#039;s comments were a slap in MY face just because I have not been a shrinking violet on the issues at hand. I&#039;m not &quot;blaming the victim&quot;, but I want to hold everyone accountable. Do I owe black Americans something different than I owe everyone else?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will answer you leading question if only to give you ammunition (it should be a word to the wise though). I do not know if I&#39;ve enjoyed privilege and entitlement due to the color of my skin. I don&#39;t feel &#8220;white guilt&#8221; for being born white. I did not perpetrate anything on any other person just by being white. It&#39;s intellectually lazy to project racism onto anyone because of their color. Is the hostility about justice then? I can never totally understand what it means to be black, any more than being Asian or Latino. Does that mean I am a racist?</p><p>A lot of words you use to make MY point. The first question you had for me is &#8220;do you make racially biased statements?&#8221; *DO I?* I have pointed out the damaging stereotypes used against blacks AND whites, and you become unhinged. Do I have the right to discuss them? You seem to know all of them well, do you use them daily as you have just then?</p><p>The dialog we&#39;ve had seems to be about differences only. Holder&#39;s comments were a slap in MY face just because I have not been a shrinking violet on the issues at hand. I&#39;m not &#8220;blaming the victim&#8221;, but I want to hold everyone accountable. Do I owe black Americans something different than I owe everyone else?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-144563</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:12:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-144563</guid> <description>I will answer you leading question if only to give you ammunition (it should be a word to the wise though). I do not know if I&#039;ve enjoyed privilege and entitlement due to the color of my skin. I don&#039;t feel &quot;white guilt&quot; for being born white. I did not perpetrate anything on any other person just by being white. It&#039;s intellectually lazy to project racism onto anyone because of their color. Is the hostility about justice then? I can never totally understand what it means to be black, any more than being Asian or Latino. Does that mean I am a racist?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A lot of words you use to make MY point. The first question you had for me is &quot;do you make racially biased statements?&quot; *DO I?* I have pointed out the damaging stereotypes used against blacks AND whites, and you become unhinged. Do I have the right to discuss them? You seem to know all of them well, do you use them daily as you have just then? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dialog we&#039;ve had seems to be about differences only. Holder&#039;s comments were a slap in MY face just because I have not been a shrinking violet on the issues at hand. I&#039;m not &quot;blaming the victim&quot;, but I want to hold everyone accountable. Do I owe black Americans something different than I owe everyone else?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will answer you leading question if only to give you ammunition (it should be a word to the wise though). I do not know if I&#39;ve enjoyed privilege and entitlement due to the color of my skin. I don&#39;t feel &#8220;white guilt&#8221; for being born white. I did not perpetrate anything on any other person just by being white. It&#39;s intellectually lazy to project racism onto anyone because of their color. Is the hostility about justice then? I can never totally understand what it means to be black, any more than being Asian or Latino. Does that mean I am a racist?</p><p>A lot of words you use to make MY point. The first question you had for me is &#8220;do you make racially biased statements?&#8221; *DO I?* I have pointed out the damaging stereotypes used against blacks AND whites, and you become unhinged. Do I have the right to discuss them? You seem to know all of them well, do you use them daily as you have just then?</p><p>The dialog we&#39;ve had seems to be about differences only. Holder&#39;s comments were a slap in MY face just because I have not been a shrinking violet on the issues at hand. I&#39;m not &#8220;blaming the victim&#8221;, but I want to hold everyone accountable. Do I owe black Americans something different than I owe everyone else?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NMP</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-144022</link> <dc:creator>NMP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:53:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-144022</guid> <description>Jack,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While I don&#039;t disagree in principle with what the Attorney General said, it was inappropriate because it was NOT consistent with the language of the President, and it is the responsibility of everyone in this administration to speak with a language consistent with the President&#039;s.  The President, then candidate, gave the most defining speech on race in a generation.  It wasn&#039;t necessary or appropriate for Attorney General Holder  to attempt to follow that up with a rather boring and uninspring speech.  Let the President lead that discussion.  His focus should be ending racial disparity in the criminal justice system, not forced integration in the pews on Sundays.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s examine the heart of his argument:  we are not truly socially integrated and that represents a degree of cowardice in all of us.  We should ask and answer the question honestly, is there anything wrong with wanting to limit your social network with people who look like you and share an experience?  Is this racist?  Cowardice?  We can use the Washington Metropolitan area as a microcosm.  Despite Blacks and Whites having comparable incomes and educational levels, it&#039;s still one of the most segregated areas in the country.  Prince George&#039;s County, less than a 10 minute drive from DC, is home to the largest Black middle class in the country, including most of my family.  A significant percentage of Black folks there have incomes that can afford them residence in Montgomery, MD or Fairfax, VA which constantly trade the status of being the wealthiest county in the country (and both majority white).  But they don&#039;t.  They CHOOSE to live in P.G. County amongst &quot;their own.&quot;  This is a common trend in majority Black, majority middle-class to upper middle-class communities throughout the country.  I ask again, is this racist or cowardice?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p><p>While I don&#39;t disagree in principle with what the Attorney General said, it was inappropriate because it was NOT consistent with the language of the President, and it is the responsibility of everyone in this administration to speak with a language consistent with the President&#39;s.  The President, then candidate, gave the most defining speech on race in a generation.  It wasn&#39;t necessary or appropriate for Attorney General Holder  to attempt to follow that up with a rather boring and uninspring speech.  Let the President lead that discussion.  His focus should be ending racial disparity in the criminal justice system, not forced integration in the pews on Sundays.</p><p>Let&#39;s examine the heart of his argument:  we are not truly socially integrated and that represents a degree of cowardice in all of us.  We should ask and answer the question honestly, is there anything wrong with wanting to limit your social network with people who look like you and share an experience?  Is this racist?  Cowardice?  We can use the Washington Metropolitan area as a microcosm.  Despite Blacks and Whites having comparable incomes and educational levels, it&#39;s still one of the most segregated areas in the country.  Prince George&#39;s County, less than a 10 minute drive from DC, is home to the largest Black middle class in the country, including most of my family.  A significant percentage of Black folks there have incomes that can afford them residence in Montgomery, MD or Fairfax, VA which constantly trade the status of being the wealthiest county in the country (and both majority white).  But they don&#39;t.  They CHOOSE to live in P.G. County amongst &#8220;their own.&#8221;  This is a common trend in majority Black, majority middle-class to upper middle-class communities throughout the country.  I ask again, is this racist or cowardice?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143885</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:19:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143885</guid> <description>Get some nose plugs and move into the new millenium.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get some nose plugs and move into the new millenium.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mon_dieu_ishmael</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143876</link> <dc:creator>mon_dieu_ishmael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:13:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143876</guid> <description>Eric Holder is a smart, highly educated, urbane, good looking lawyer who will probably do an excellent job as the A.G. , but I can still smell the stench of the Marc Rich pardon.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Holder is a smart, highly educated, urbane, good looking lawyer who will probably do an excellent job as the A.G. , but I can still smell the stench of the Marc Rich pardon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143867</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:38:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143867</guid> <description>Twg,&lt;br&gt;You did not avoid my premise, as there was none. I simply responded to the question you posed in the first post. I gave you an objective criteria to use for yourself. No premise there at all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you feel as a white person that you enjoy entitlement and privilege in America based solely on the color of your skin? If just by asking we are to presume racism, then you were asserting you are racist, by posing your question initially, no?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am unable to see a connection with you being racist by opposing the stimulus package even if we look at Clyburn&#039;s remarks, becasue Clyburn is focused on elected representatives declining funds to their constituents who happen to be primarily black.  How does that apply to you? Are you an elected official? Do you represent a state or city that has a large black constituency?  If not, how does &#039;oppossing&#039; the stimulus make you racist. You need to connect those dots, becasue I am not getting your point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For you to assert the axiomatic truth, that black folks are not reaching out, sounds to me that you are blaming the victim. Are you?  Are you focused on holding the victim accountabie much moreso than the perpetrator, because you perceive you belong to the GROUP which perpetuates racism? Are you trying as an individual, within that group, to wave your hand and say &#039;not me&#039;? Are you personalizing a societal issue so as to not address it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;O my, my, my,  that last paragraph is soooo stereotypical until  I cannot format a civil response other than to say do you work with poor white trash also and feel that as a GROUP white folks are just terrible as a group of people, just liars, shysters, and no account sleaze ball, meth addicts who wouldn&#039;t do a days work to feed their family if their life depended on it?  Or do you feel that white people as a GROUP are nothing but lying con men hustling a person out of their hard earned money when you read about how Madoff and the bankers in brook brothers suits and wing tips flew to DC and asked for a bailout after taking folks retirement and pension funds and gambling on their own greed?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The percieved MEDIA stereotype for a white guy like you according to TV, is Jethro Tull, Archie Bunker and Dukes of Hazard...did you watch those religiously?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or were you enamored of JoethePlumber...did he speak for you?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twg,<br />You did not avoid my premise, as there was none. I simply responded to the question you posed in the first post. I gave you an objective criteria to use for yourself. No premise there at all.</p><p>Do you feel as a white person that you enjoy entitlement and privilege in America based solely on the color of your skin? If just by asking we are to presume racism, then you were asserting you are racist, by posing your question initially, no?</p><p>I am unable to see a connection with you being racist by opposing the stimulus package even if we look at Clyburn&#39;s remarks, becasue Clyburn is focused on elected representatives declining funds to their constituents who happen to be primarily black.  How does that apply to you? Are you an elected official? Do you represent a state or city that has a large black constituency?  If not, how does &#39;oppossing&#39; the stimulus make you racist. You need to connect those dots, becasue I am not getting your point.</p><p>For you to assert the axiomatic truth, that black folks are not reaching out, sounds to me that you are blaming the victim. Are you?  Are you focused on holding the victim accountabie much moreso than the perpetrator, because you perceive you belong to the GROUP which perpetuates racism? Are you trying as an individual, within that group, to wave your hand and say &#39;not me&#39;? Are you personalizing a societal issue so as to not address it?</p><p>O my, my, my,  that last paragraph is soooo stereotypical until  I cannot format a civil response other than to say do you work with poor white trash also and feel that as a GROUP white folks are just terrible as a group of people, just liars, shysters, and no account sleaze ball, meth addicts who wouldn&#39;t do a days work to feed their family if their life depended on it?  Or do you feel that white people as a GROUP are nothing but lying con men hustling a person out of their hard earned money when you read about how Madoff and the bankers in brook brothers suits and wing tips flew to DC and asked for a bailout after taking folks retirement and pension funds and gambling on their own greed?</p><p>The percieved MEDIA stereotype for a white guy like you according to TV, is Jethro Tull, Archie Bunker and Dukes of Hazard&#8230;did you watch those religiously?</p><p>Or were you enamored of JoethePlumber&#8230;did he speak for you?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Justice58</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143667</link> <dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:27:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143667</guid> <description>Tell it!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell it!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143655</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:11:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143655</guid> <description>Certainly I avoided your premise, not your question.&lt;br&gt;Are you a racist? Do you feel like I, being white,&lt;br&gt;have had a part in the past and current wrongs? I&lt;br&gt;believe that if your racism, if it exists, is just as&lt;br&gt;wrong. Just by asking you assume too much about me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I brought up the stimulus package because it is being&lt;br&gt;debated in some circles as a racial issue to oppose&lt;br&gt;it. &quot;I did that&quot; by reading comments by SC rep&lt;br&gt;Clyburn, and even in their entire context he is&lt;br&gt;claiming that I am a racist for opposing the stimulus.&lt;br&gt;Either way, I hear you working to label me in the&lt;br&gt;question. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Holder&#039;s comments are true, but the commentary ON THE&lt;br&gt;BLOG only reinforces the axiomatic truth, some black&lt;br&gt;folks are not interested in reaching out either. Is&lt;br&gt;that a racist interpretation?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How can we move forward? I deal with all the&lt;br&gt;stereotypical issues daily. Smoking weed, alcholism,&lt;br&gt;food stamps, DHR taking (or not taking) kids away,&lt;br&gt;nobody arriving to work on time, no money to pay the&lt;br&gt;rent but driving cars having $2k stereos and $2k&lt;br&gt;wheels, people stealing stuff to make meth, et.al. All&lt;br&gt;this stuff is going on with the white folks that work&lt;br&gt;for and with me. The guy with the stereo and wheels&lt;br&gt;quit because I wanted him to work 40 hrs rather than&lt;br&gt;32hrs. He had planned to go to the casino. I have the&lt;br&gt;stereotypes sorted out, so I would like to know the&lt;br&gt;perceived stereotype for a working class white guy&lt;br&gt;like me. Do you need to know more about me? twg&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- Disqus &lt;&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly I avoided your premise, not your question.<br />Are you a racist? Do you feel like I, being white,<br />have had a part in the past and current wrongs? I<br />believe that if your racism, if it exists, is just as<br />wrong. Just by asking you assume too much about me.</p><p>I brought up the stimulus package because it is being<br />debated in some circles as a racial issue to oppose<br />it. &#8220;I did that&#8221; by reading comments by SC rep<br />Clyburn, and even in their entire context he is<br />claiming that I am a racist for opposing the stimulus.<br />Either way, I hear you working to label me in the<br />question.</p><p>Holder&#39;s comments are true, but the commentary ON THE<br />BLOG only reinforces the axiomatic truth, some black<br />folks are not interested in reaching out either. Is<br />that a racist interpretation?</p><p>How can we move forward? I deal with all the<br />stereotypical issues daily. Smoking weed, alcholism,<br />food stamps, DHR taking (or not taking) kids away,<br />nobody arriving to work on time, no money to pay the<br />rent but driving cars having $2k stereos and $2k<br />wheels, people stealing stuff to make meth, et.al. All<br />this stuff is going on with the white folks that work<br />for and with me. The guy with the stereo and wheels<br />quit because I wanted him to work 40 hrs rather than<br />32hrs. He had planned to go to the casino. I have the<br />stereotypes sorted out, so I would like to know the<br />perceived stereotype for a working class white guy<br />like me. Do you need to know more about me? twg</p><p>&#8212; Disqus &lt;&gt;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143589</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:39:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143589</guid> <description>Well, it seems that you were uncertain whether you would be labelled racist. I gave you a criteria to judge by.  If the shoe fits, wear it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Honest talk about race has nothing to do with the stimuls package. The stimulus package is about policy, not race.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have you somehow in your mine distorted the stimulus package into a race issue?  If so, how did you do that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;FWIW, my e mail is irrelevent to dialogue and cogent analysis of the issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is your choice whether to engage or not.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems that you were uncertain whether you would be labelled racist. I gave you a criteria to judge by.  If the shoe fits, wear it.</p><p>Honest talk about race has nothing to do with the stimuls package. The stimulus package is about policy, not race.</p><p>Have you somehow in your mine distorted the stimulus package into a race issue?  If so, how did you do that.</p><p>FWIW, my e mail is irrelevent to dialogue and cogent analysis of the issues.</p><p>It is your choice whether to engage or not.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143583</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:17:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143583</guid> <description>That&#039;s close to asking &quot;When did you stop beating your&lt;br&gt;wife?&quot;, given the context. An honest answer is still&lt;br&gt;framed by the question. My point in asking for dialog&lt;br&gt;is to try to find a way through THAT. Does my giving&lt;br&gt;reasoned arguments against the stimulus package&lt;br&gt;constitute racially biased talk? In reading the blog,&lt;br&gt;it seems it does. A real email address would make me&lt;br&gt;feel better about your sincerity FWIW. twg&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;--- Disqus &lt;&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s close to asking &#8220;When did you stop beating your<br />wife?&#8221;, given the context. An honest answer is still<br />framed by the question. My point in asking for dialog<br />is to try to find a way through THAT. Does my giving<br />reasoned arguments against the stimulus package<br />constitute racially biased talk? In reading the blog,<br />it seems it does. A real email address would make me<br />feel better about your sincerity FWIW. twg</p><p>&#8212; Disqus &lt;&gt;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143552</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:01:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143552</guid> <description>Often times, folks are not labelled racist, unless they make racially biased statements.&lt;br&gt;Do you make racially biased statements?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often times, folks are not labelled racist, unless they make racially biased statements.<br />Do you make racially biased statements?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: twg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143541</link> <dc:creator>twg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143541</guid> <description>How can a white guy (me), talk with black Americans on this issue(race), without being labeled a racist? I agree with Holder&#039;s comments on their face, but I haven&#039;t seen much willingness for dialogue (here especially). Just pats on the back and &quot;amens&quot;  for talking bad about the white-devil. I would like dialogue, glblwmr at yahoo dot com or here if you&#039;re cowardly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a white guy (me), talk with black Americans on this issue(race), without being labeled a racist? I agree with Holder&#39;s comments on their face, but I haven&#39;t seen much willingness for dialogue (here especially). Just pats on the back and &#8220;amens&#8221;  for talking bad about the white-devil. I would like dialogue, glblwmr at yahoo dot com or here if you&#39;re cowardly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: miss_opinion</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143432</link> <dc:creator>miss_opinion</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:31:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143432</guid> <description>Attorney General Holder gave one of the most honest and thoughtful speeches I&#039;ve ever seen in my short 27 going on 28 years. For the most part I&#039;ve ignored the reactions to the speech ( I don&#039;t have that kind of time anymore lol) but from what I have seen people have completely missed the point. But that&#039;s no shock. Who wants to in America face anything that isn&#039;t sunny and sweet? We avoid anything and everything that has any relation to responsibility. Why have a discussion on race when you can just sit around and go on attack.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attorney General Holder gave one of the most honest and thoughtful speeches I&#39;ve ever seen in my short 27 going on 28 years. For the most part I&#39;ve ignored the reactions to the speech ( I don&#39;t have that kind of time anymore lol) but from what I have seen people have completely missed the point. But that&#39;s no shock. Who wants to in America face anything that isn&#39;t sunny and sweet? We avoid anything and everything that has any relation to responsibility. Why have a discussion on race when you can just sit around and go on attack.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143416</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143416</guid> <description>AFTERNOON THREAD IS UP</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFTERNOON THREAD IS UP</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Piepiepie</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143405</link> <dc:creator>Piepiepie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:51:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143405</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg3OTk2ZjEwYWU2MjQ1NTY0YTNmYmNjNTkxMGVhYWI=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg3OT...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Watch for the Palin-Santelli 2012 Signs&lt;br&gt;Move over Joe, Santelli is the new fave!@</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg3OTk2ZjEwYWU2MjQ1NTY0YTNmYmNjNTkxMGVhYWI=" rel="nofollow">http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg3OT&#8230;</a><br />Watch for the Palin-Santelli 2012 Signs<br />Move over Joe, Santelli is the new fave!@</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GreenLadyHere</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143398</link> <dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:37:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143398</guid> <description>Baratunde:   &lt;i&gt;&lt;u&gt;The flipside of cowardice is courage&lt;/u&gt; - something we all could use a little more of if we truly want to deal with our past and present racism, while we create a future that works for all of us.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PERSPECTIVE!  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now perhaps the conversation CAN B moved FROM the WORD to WORDS - - of a VIABLE &amp; MEANINGFUL DISCOURSE!  :&gt; )</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baratunde: <i><u>The flipside of cowardice is courage</u> &#8211; something we all could use a little more of if we truly want to deal with our past and present racism, while we create a future that works for all of us.</i></p><p>PERSPECTIVE!  :&gt;)</p><p>Now perhaps the conversation CAN B moved FROM the WORD to WORDS &#8211; - of a VIABLE &#038; MEANINGFUL DISCOURSE!  :&gt; )</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Noelani</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/02/it-takes-a-nation-of-cowards-to-prove-eric-holder-right/comment-page-1/#comment-143397</link> <dc:creator>Noelani</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:30:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=8076#comment-143397</guid> <description>One of the few posts I&#039;ve read that seems to tackle the issue thoughtfully.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the few posts I&#39;ve read that seems to tackle the issue thoughtfully.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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