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AFTERNOON THREAD IS UP

Hacker attacks on liberal blogs?

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2009/01/19/090119...

Bush administration admits torture. She served under Cheney at Dept of Defense and for Reagan:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

Michelle Obama as Undersecretary of Defense for Policy?

Almost gave me a heart attack this morning.

Sexting. Are you ready for this among your children? I don' think this is an isolated upper middle class phenomena
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_...

I blame Kwame Kilpatrick.

ctfu...

Clinton is to blame for kids believing fellatio ain't sex
and Kwame is to blame for sexting.

gotcha!!

lol lol lol

Stop it hurts. ROTFLMAO

tee hee. Did he ever send pics of his package to his aide? If so I missed that. I thought negro was only doing textsex.

Christine was the one with the most descriptive lascivious texts...she is the mother of 2 daughters and that shyt is in the newspaper!! Her talking about giving head to Kwame...unbeleivable.

Can we say Christine is raising chickenheads?

Awww, Kanye made Bush sad:

"I think being called a racist because of Katrina was a low point," Bush said in an interview with CNN's Larry King.


In the days immediately following the disaster, Bush came under fire for what many characterized as a slow federal response to aiding victims, especially in the heavily African-American, Lower Ninth Ward neighborhood of New Orleans. During a live hurricane relief fundraiser on network television, entertainer Kanye West said "George Bush doesn't care about black people."

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[Bush:]By the way, we have had, that I know of, sitting right here, eight hurricanes, major hurricanes, and seven and a half were dealt with the way everybody expected them to be dealt with.


The Mississippi part of Katrina was dealt with well, even though it was a really horrible hurricane."

"My brother was governor of Florida, and seven major hurricanes hit there. And the response was always pretty good. It's the response out of New Orleans and Louisiana which was not as good as we would have liked."

he's just totally phoning it in at this point.

http://www.theroot.com/views/miss-france-and-ne...

She's very pretty. "Too pretty" in that "mixed-exotic" sense white folks and marketers love? How does this mix, so to speak, w/the paradigm darker skinned women are staking out w/the new First Lady as their symbol? Interesting.

PS--her mother is an American black woman. What's the message there--can't find a "good brother" so go get yourself a wealthy Frenchman? Hey, no argument here. Whatever floats one's boat...

"Mortaud also identifies herself as “black,” which is rare in France when speaking about someone who is biracial. Presumably, she learned this from her black American mother, along with a worldview deeply influenced by the African-American experience."


I have always believed that when black women started to raise biracial children that would be when our world became transracial. Because, it is mothers who give children their sociologic view of the world and as long as it was white women raising biracial children...nothing would change as those children struggle to identity with blackness and can't seem to accept that their claiming blackness does not mean they are rejecting their white parentage. Folks like McWhorter and Woods and Shelby...suffer from that type of racial ambiguity creating a guilty sense of rejecting one race in order to embrace blackness.

Black mothers though cut to the quick and say...baby you black...just as Halle's mother eventually told her...you are what the world sees you as.

Black mothers have the power to rule the world...just intermarry with men of all nationalities and we can turn the entire globe...BLACK

love it!!

Since the very beginning of America Black mothers of byracial children have raised them. This is not a new phenomenon, thus the African American experience (Barack 's mother did a wonderful job raising him to love and claim his heritage). What is more the issue is when White/other women raise biracial children. The children say they lack identity and want to claim a biracial classification, thus Tiger Woods.

The problem with Tiger Woods was not his mom, but rather, his dad. His dad was the one running around saying he was only 1/4th black when he looked like a clean shaven Grady from Sanford & Son.

Town

You are so right. Confusion begets confusion. And then the confused want to make their confusion everyone else's problem cause they don't know who they are.

That comment by Ms. France is radical even for many American biracial folk. And what IS Toger Woods doing these days? LOL

Yes, it is transformationally radical in that it asserts pride in blackness and embraces black. What a revolutionary concept?!

Tiger is home with his babie(s)trying hard to rehab that knee still...he really tore it up bad to win that Open.

I just hope he can come back with a knee strong enough to shatter Jack's records.

Veejay Singh ...saw him at some Golf awards...I think it was the one for the highest paid golfer of the season..of course Veejay won, and was presented the trophy (honor/check) by last year's winner, of course that was Tiger....and Singh turned to him & quipped....'don't hurry back'


roflmao

Singh know he ain't never as wealthy as when Tiger is out ..whether it is to redesign his swing or rehab a kneee....it is all money to Singh.

PS--her mother is an American black woman. What's the message there--can't find a "good brother" so go get yourself a wealthy Frenchman? Hey, no argument here. Whatever floats one's boat...

Go for whoever loves you...that's what really floats one's boat.

Word, blksista, Word!

Love you, Michelle!

she. is. so. beautiful. what a magnificent role model for us. a gift.

the closer we get to the actual day, the more i feel like i'm just going to pop with excitement and joy and pride.

BAB: MAJOR CO-SIGN!! :>) :>) 6 MORE DAYS!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruidM0nfUdc

Patrick McGoohan, 80, The Prisoner, has died in L.A.

The guy was a genius. I remember watching The Prisoner every week.

Loved him in Secret Agent, too.

Damn!

I know I'm dating myself, but I recall my dad and uncle watching The Prisoner (along w/the Avengers) when I was little, then I saw it decades later on PBS. So am I an old jerk if I say yeah, TV WAS better, smarter back then?

Some TV was "better, smarter", back then. What's the diff between Batman and Star Trek?

Understand that ABC brought in The Avengers, and CBS Secret Agent and later The Prisoner during the height of Brit-o-mania in this country, led famously by the Beatles and the rest of the British Invasion cultural bunch. The networks were trying to get ratings.

However, this certainly led to certain segments of the nation to rely on PBS for Brit TV, and miniseries like Prime Suspect, Tinker, Tailer, Soldier, Spy, and The Lathe of Heaven as well as BBC America (which still doesn't show everything that's televised in Britain and if it does, it's a year or two late). Whatever they seem to do is quality, thinking TV. Class does tell.

I'd sure like to watch what is on Grenada TV or Channel 4 one of these days. Prime time.

BBC America sucks, but for the nasty house show and the weight loss show. Gordon Ramsey make me puke...

But you know, Star Trek was great, and was a launchung pad for the sci fi of tdoay. As for Batman, it was INTENDED to be camp, and was clever. You have on now which people think is making some sort of statement.
I'd go as far as to say that I'd stack Gilligan and the happy POWs of Nazi Stalag 13 against Heidi Montag and any and all reality shows, all sitcoms and half the 'dramas" on network TV (CBS-Fox-ABC-NBC-TBS) now.

The beginning of the end of BBC America for me was when they stopped showing EastEnders. But that was a blessing in disguise because that led me to a couple of sites where I am able to, ahem, get a hold of UK programs. As a result when BBC America adds something new to their lineup, most times I've already seen it months earlier. For instance I just started watching season 7 of Spooks (aka MI-5), and I think BBC America has only gotten as far as season 4.

But then again, what happened to BBC America is typical of a lot of the cable channels getting far away from their original purpose (I'm talking about you A&E, Bravo, TVLand and TLC). So it's not just network TV that's putting out crappy product.

Co-sign on A&E et al.

I am sooooo through with reality shows.

The Black Church Needs To Start Showing Some Love: A look at the homophobic commentary of Clifton Davis.

Everyone Deserves A Roof: Looking at a great program to help the homeless

Oscar Grant, Police Violence and the war on black men: Looking at the racialized nature of the penal system and the ways in which black lives are considered without value.

The black-gay blame game, and how both sides have implicit misunderstandings of the others and need to come together and unite to fight for equality.

http://queersunited.blogspot.com/2008/11/black-...

National Surveillance Data for Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, and Syphilis

I guess that black racists like Rev. Wright will now show up ... claiming that "White AmeriKKKa" and/or the "U.S. of KKKA" has been secretly injecting Sexually Transmitted Diseases into the black communities...

I always ponder whether those STD's which are associated with higher rates of AIDS are associated with a higher incidence due to the individuals who acquire the higher number of STD's are promiscuous, thus meaning it is moreso promiscuity than the STD itself. Or if there is a vector that enables the HIV virus to penetrate the cell better due to a co-factor relationship between the chlmydia/gonorrhea/syphillis bacterium.

Chicken or egg type question...STD first or promiscuity first ...which is the culprit.

Im not sure that its chicken-egg. You dont have to be promiscuous to get an STI. All you have to do is have unprotected sex with an infected person. Obviously if you have more instances of unprotected sex your chances of being infected are higher. But its about exposure.

The running theory had been that gonorrhea, chlamydia et al were predisposing people to HIV exposure. Basically that these infections allow for microbreaks in the skin through which HIV entered the body. ( One new study suggests that HIV can infect intact skin so maybe other stuff is going on as well). So the idea is that the infections travel together. Or where there is smoke (gonorrhea, chlamydia) there is fire (HIV).

I agree you do not have to be promiscuous to get an STD but having an STD is associated with a higher incidence of AIDS...so is that because the majority of people with STDs are promiscuous? Or is it because the STD creates a better environment for the HIV virus.

What...intact skin can be infested with HIV? That sounds highly unreliable, given the fragility of the virus itself.

So, if the infections are 'traveling together' that goes along with promiscuity.

If you call Massa Tom and Miss Anne going down to the quarters late at night a "secret"...then ok.

Miranda, you just go ahead and TELL IT!

And the House negro mother suckling Miss Anne's white babies while hers were being sold or traded like a baseball card.

GTFOH!

TELL IT!!

rikyrah: January 14, 2009; DAY -6; On His "JOURNEY TO JANUARY 20, 2009!" Soooo exciting!! :>) :>)

1. New official portrait released

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 08:13am EST / Posted by Dave Rochelson

Today we are releasing the new official portrait for President Barack Obama.

It was taken by Pete Souza, the newly-announced official White House photographer.

It is the first time that an official presidential portrait was taken with a digital camera.

You can see the portrait below, or click here to download a copy.

[Kodak PAPER. CHECK!! :>) :>)]

2. HIS SCHEDULE: Wednesday Jan. 14, 2009

All Times Eastern

President-elect Barack Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden will visit the Supreme Court, meeting with justices and taking a tour of the courtroom.

Biden briefs Obama on his recent trip to southwest Asia.

8:00 AM
9:00 AM
9:55 AM

Obama leaves the Hay-Adams in his motorcade and arrives at his transition headquarters in Washington shortly thereafter.

3. Obama: Everyone Can Get Involved in Inauguration (Wednesday, January 14th, 2009)

The president-elect releases a message Wednesday letting his soon-to-be constituents know there are a lot of ways to participate in the festivities.

Lays out next week's activities, explains how those not in D.C. can feel a part of it all.

Watch video above. Read transcript here.

ENJOY!!


4. Remembering Obama: 'This guy could be president'

After the Harvard Law Review's annual banquet in 1991, Susan Higgins and her friends walked out of Boston's stately Harvard Club, still mesmerized by the speech of the journal's 29-year-old president.

This guy, they said, could be president of the United States someday.

And next week, he will. YES HE WILL!! :>)

Higgins, now a homemaker inb Charlotte, N.C., plans to join the throngs in Washington for Barack Obama's inauguration. She worked for him as the law review's editorial assistant.

“It's just kind of surreal,” says the 45-year-old mother of two, “thinking that somebody you worked for directly becomes president.”

Higgins is one of a handful of Obama's former colleagues and fellow students in North Carolina. They recall the incoming president as a boss, classmate or scrappy rival in pick-up basketball games. They knew him as self-assured, unruffled and able to command respect from fractious peers. Many see the same traits now.

Obama's 1990 election as law review president – he beat 18 others – brought his first national exposure. He was the first African American to head the country's most prestigious legal journal. Interview requests poured in the next day from across the country.

“The phone was just ringing off the hook,” recalls Higgins, who was one of three full-time staffers at a magazine run by students.

After a marathon election that started at 8:30 a.m. and went into the wee hours of the next morning, the normally workaholic Obama dragged into the office after lunch.

“Where have you been all day?” Higgins joked.

Law Review

On a law review where egos and ambitions soared as high as the Greek columns outside, Higgins was surprised that Obama would even run.

“Most of the people (run) so they can get great clerkships on the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court,” she says. “But he wasn't interested in a clerkship because he was going back to Chicago to do community work.”

Some classmates were less surprised.

“To me it was almost obvious he would be president of the law review,” says Jennifer Collins, who now teaches law at Wake Forest. “He just had this ability to bring people together and inspire people, which was important because it was a contentious time in Harvard Law School's history.”

THERE IS MORE. WHAT A NICE MEMORY!! :>) :>)

THAT'S ALL FOR NOW!! :>) :>)

DANG!!....where was the barber? Didn't he get to the WH in time prior to this official portrait...I have seen Obama's hair loook way better than this on the campaign trail!!

whiterosebuddy: Er- -um. . . . I was trying to avoid a "minor critique" on that "SHAVE?" :>)

I'm thinkin' NORELCO, Gillette and Kleen Shave. RESPECTFULLY! :>)

I'm just sayin'. . . . .

It is a little fuzzy isn't it (hee)? Last I heard though, the Secret Service was still investigating his barber before he can get security clearance to come to the White House.

Man, you don't keep a brotha from his barber and a sista from her hairdresser! They betta ask somebody!

sepia, I know that's right. Santa must of rode off on that norelco shaver.

You bring out the best visuals and memories! lol.

http://members.tripod.com/lisacafe/images/santa...

lol

O SNAP!!
no wonder his cut looks all wrong.

I pity his barber...man just trying to make a living cutting hair and now all of a sudden his whole life is being investigated cause turns out he cuts a man's head that becomes President.

Talk about Bitter with the sweet.

He might be trippin out at what they can discover.

Lord knows hope he does not have any outstandign anything!!

New information on the death of Mike Connell, Rove's IT guy who died in a plane crash before he was going to spill the frijoles about the 2004 voter fraud in Ohio.

BIG, long, and involved article.

rikyrah: B4 I continue posting, i need to explain that I am taking ta heart the phrase "LIFE-LONG LEARNING!" :>) :>)

I've started a class - -Homiletics-- that is going to consume more of my time.

Sooooooo, during this next few months, i gotta STUDY/HOMEWORK! :>) :>)

Ima post as OFTEN as I can, BUT a little LESS than usual. :>(

U'ALL pray for me in this endeavor; 'cause Ima NEED them! :>) :>)

THANK YOU FOR YOU UNDERSTANDING! :>) :>)

NOW, ON TO MY DAILY POSTS!! :>) :>)

GreenLady, good luck with the studies but no doubt you'll ace the course.

MsKitty: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. :>) :>) Ima try! :>) :>)

GreenLady,

I wish nothing but success in all you do! You're gonna do just great!

God Bless You!

Justice58: THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Ima do my best! :>)

GreenLady, I wish you much success with your studies and endeavors!!

GreenLady, Homilist. Loving the sound of that, Blessings. to you.

spirit: THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! :>) :>) Ima STUDY real hard! :>) :>)

Hey GLH...you will do outstanding. I will share one of my big motivation sayings that would always keep me focused when I needed to perserve.

Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goal.

Hope you find it helpful in those moments when you think you have just taken on too much and can't put in another blearyeyed hour.

Homiletics, eh?

Sounds like someone has gotten 'a calling' ...maybe?

Did you hear the call, GLH?

whiterosebuddy: THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your ENCOURAGEMENT!! :>)

Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goal.

Ima share this annnnnd, keep it in mind/heart! :>) :>)

At this point, "A MEGA-WHISPER!" :>)

Again, THANK YOU! :>) :>)

I just read that Black women are the most affected by STDs according to the CDC. Has anyone else seen this?

http://www.diversityinc.com/public/5084.cfm

How do you mean that black women are 'most affected'..by STD's?

STD's are a equal opportunity infestation and affect all femalecarriers alike.

yeah, weve really got to do something about this. our rate in infection is way too high. first thing we must do is stress marriage first and then safe sex. after that we need to stress to our daughters and sons that there is a personally responsibility and a community responsibility to protect yourselves. the last thing that could help is if maybe we stopped cutting education budgets for funding of safe sex programs and community programs. the last 8 years there has been in increase in funding for abstinence only programs and the states that receive this funding are southern states with high populations of blacks and hispanics but vote majority republican. these states have high numbers of teen pregnancies as well as std's and higher concentrations of black women.

Condoms. condoms. condoms...will take care of every single one of hose STD's except herpes.

Cant disagree with anything you have said here.

This has been the case for a good long time now. Really we are talking about HIV, gonorrhea and chlamydia, maybe syphillis cause HPV and herpes are too hard to measure. However, these numbers for sexually transmitted infections (STI) might overestimate the actual picture because blacks often seek care in public settings that are also more likely to report numbers to county and state health departments as compared to private offices.

Still its clear there is a problem. I think one of the things we must talk about in this moment of calls for health care reform: health disparities. We can talk about universal healthcare but we also need to talk about differences in health outcomes and differences in exposure based on socioeconomic status, education, race and other factors. We cant hope to get to a point of health equity without talking about health inequality.

As MLK said:
Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane

This has been publicized since the advent of AIDs. The brothers are bringing it to them, unfortunately. And they don't want to ask questions that might save their lives.

Umm you can lead a horse to water but you cant force it to drink. Dont blame it on the brothers. If black women dont want to get STIs they need to use condoms or not have sex.

We all know there are complicated reasons why women ( especially young women) have sex: for emotional comfort, love, transactional reasons like they need rent or want to make their man happy. But this victimhood thing with "If only the brothers werent bringing it home" is tired IMO.

You may or may not have been saying that in your post. But its a pet peeve of mine especially when trying to educate folks in the community.

We have to work on empowering women with education about STIs and the skills to practice asking about sexual history or negotiating condom use. And we need to educate women so they have skills so they can get jobs and pay their own rent and arent dependent on the man they are having sex with to keep a roof over their heads.

"If black women dont want to get STIs they need to use condoms or not have sex."


So what do Black men need to do to stop getting STD's as well? Last time I checked, safe sex practices applied to both sexes....so neither sex holds more of a responsibility than the other when it comes to safe health practices.

There is much education and prevention practices that need to go around to both MEN and WOMEN.

And actually, many infections tend to present themselves differently in men than women, for example, men can often be asymptomatic in regards to Chlamydia and/ or Gonorrhea, while women will present with the physical symptons more signicantly. And I think the ignorance that you can look at someone and determine their sexual health is very damaging. PERIOD.

And your last paragraph makes it sounds as if women are being whores just for the sake of living ------PLEASE. Reckless behavior may be caused by emotions, peer pressure, or other extenuating circumstances, but please don't insult women on here by insinuating that they need to sex up a man in order to keep a roof over their heads.....you sound like Ann Coulter with that shyt.

Black men need to do the same as black women. To avoid STIs: wear a condom or abstain from sex. I wasnt talking about black men originally because I was responding to "the brothers are bringing it to them".

I didnt say that women are whores or even meant to imply that. I dont think transactional sex= being a whore. I think one could argue that all sex is transactional ( especially if you are wearing the hat of a particular kind of feminism).

I say sex may be transactional because each partner in the sex act is getting something ( pleasure, self gratification, self esteem, feeling of connectedness, feeling loved, end of nagging, room and board, relaxation etc etc that depends on the relationship). But people have sex for a complicated mix of reasons whether you are a man or a woman.

I did not say ALL women are sexing up a man to keep a roof over their heads. Its not true for all women but it is true for SOME. I have met women who feel this way and worked with them. For them it seems like it is not a possibility to say no to sex without a condom. There is real fear of the problems (demanding a condom) will cause in the relationship and possible suspicion of cheating ( "Baby, I'm clean. Why do you need a condom? Unless you have been running around on me...") If she has kids or a low paying job or one without benefits she may be dependent on her boyfriend (or sometimes husband) for making ends meet. For her it might seem difficult to rock the boat and ask questions, demand a condom because she has to buy food, pay rent and utilities and her man is helping her out.

I dont think its an insult to speak of the daily realities for some women. I dont think we can chalk this epidemic of STIs up to reckless behavior anymore than we can blame the obesity epidemic on people willfully choosing to eat crap. Most people make health decisions on a rational basis based on what they know, believe and what they see in their daily environment.

true, true, true. life is never as simple as some may want to think!

Trumystique.

It is reckless behavior anytime you do not use a condom, no matter what the reason is. The decision not to wear one is reckless, even if you need food or rent money from some man.

Not using condoms is reckless, period.

You replied to blksista's assertions and I replied to yours.

But regardless of why men sleep with women, and vice versa.....the back story is that we all need to treat sex and its consequences seriously. And I think self-esteem and self-worth plays an important part regardless if one is male or female. Be it, a woman deciding to forgo safe sex methods in an effort to please her partner or a man who deems it necessary to recklessly sleep with as many multiple woman as he can unprotected (excess can also be a self-esteem issue, often those who over-compensate tend to feel that they are lacking).

My own personal anecdote is that over a decade ago my college friend( and now lifelong buddy) received devastating news. Her sister, who was graduating college in the next few months, learned that she was HIV positive. That moment for me was life changing....all of us were young women in college, and yet a person who I personally knew ( and by all accounts was an independent and intelligent young woman) had been told news she never expected. I remember that we cried, and prayed, and were in disbelief for a while.

I always knew up to that point that HIV and other diseases were real....but at the moment, the burden she beared was so real because her story could have easily been mine. The sad part is, it came from one encounter that she thought was harmless....and she actually had an on-again, off-again boyfriend who was found not to be infected. My point is that a young lady, who prided herself on being independent, ambitious, and intelligent found herself (and could take care of herself btw) found herself dealing with HIV because during that one encounter, she felt inevitable.....like nothing could happen to her, it was harmless....and well he looked healthy.

That is why each young person I encounter, MALE of FEMALE, I tell them it only takes one encounter to be given the news that my friend received. Each sexual encounter should be treated as a "what if" moment because there honestly is not a better alternative, safety is a must EACH AND EVERY TIME.

I feel what you are saying. It really hits home when someone you know is personally touched by disease. I have seen way too many people in my personal and professional life affected by STIs including HIV.

So I recognize the power of individual agency and personal responsibility. At the same time I understand the power of the environment. Studies have shown that black youth arent necessarily involved in more risky sexual behaviors (number of partners, episodes of unprotected sex) than whites. Since most black people have sex with other black people one hypothesis is that the number of cases of STIs are higher in the population and as such there is higher probability that a single act of unprotected sex will be with an infected person. So its a vicious cycle...but it can be broken.

We have to work on both individual factors like personal responsibility, knowledge and attitudes at the same time that we work on environments that promote disease.

i agree.

But one recurring theme that I find often is that women who engage in risky sexual behavior do it because of low self-esteem (which is true) but to me that reasoning applies to men as well, but you often never hear it.

Too often we are told "men will be men" and that a man (at least an unmarried one) cannot be in a monogamous relationship. And we've heard it so much , that in some medical circles, it has become a commonplace truth.

But my concern is that by accepting that meme, we don't look at the influence of low self-esteem and how it affects male sexual behavior. So that is why I become defensive when blame is paced unevenly between the two sexes. To me seeing a reckless and
overly sexual man who engages in sex with many different partners holds the same dimension as a female who does the same. It is just that in society, as a whole we have accepted this behavior as just "the way it is" and we don't chalk it to low self-esteem like we are quick to do with women.

Trumystique, you are right..The risky sexual behavior is not of higher incidence. What is of higher incidence is black male incarceration which results in men who sleep with men. Men who engage in anal receptive sex and then sleep with women are the number one vector for HIV in the black community. And that male is in far higher incidence in the black community due to mass incarceration of men and even boys at young ages.

Actually to be correct-- I didnt mean to IMPLY all women are sexing up a man for room and board.

Nowadays with so many more black females having college degrees vs black males...typically the man is sexing up the woman for room and board.

Concurring with Monie (but staying out of the argument).

People need to stop, um, screwing around. And if they're going to (which, of course, some are), they need to do it safely.

People need to stop, um, screwing around.

Why is it always black folks' fault when they screw around, when whites more than take up the slack as well? I'm fed up with that stereotype as well: that whites have all the propriety and self-control, and PoC are just rutting around without values and adding to the welfare rolls.

Nothing wrong with experimenting, as young people are wont to do once they figure out that sex feels good. But some young black people are ill-equipped to act responsibly when experimenting. They know nothing about their own bodies. Some have been sexually messed over by abusive parents, siblings, cousins, friends or guardians. They don't have access to or knowledge about health care or birth control half the time. And using hip-hop as the 411 about how to have relationships or sex isn't at all like reading The Joy of Sex.

I have no problem with of-age individuals and above learning about themselves. But I would like them to have the information that they should be learning in schools or in churches or in their families about its joys and dangers. I would like them to learn about self-esteem and self-preservation, and to be healed from sexual abuse before they embark on their journey. Do I think 10-14-year-olds should have sex? Hell, no, they're too young; but you can't stop some of them. Do I believe in abstinence? Hell, no, because it's been proven it doesn't work.

People.

Not black ones or white ones. Just "people." I used that word because what I said is applicable to everyone.

Agree, Monie, on all points.

"There is much education and prevention practices that need to go around to both MEN and WOMEN."

I can't begin to tell you how many patients, male and female, whom I've professionally cared for who were more than eager to take what information we could provide them to prevent another case of STD from occuring.

It begins with education, continues self responisbility and maintains itself with affordable health care.

Thank you, Monie.

Pronoun trouble.

If black women dont want to get STIs they need to use condoms or not have sex.

We all know there are complicated reasons why women ( especially young women) have sex: for emotional comfort, love, transactional reasons like they need rent or want to make their man happy. But this victimhood thing with "If only the brothers werent bringing it home" is tired IMO.

You don't read, don't you?

I said, essentially, that the sisters aren't asking questions, that is, being proactive and thinking about having sex with brothers these days. This isn't a case of victimhood.

We also have to consider how much coercion a man uses to get his needs met, and in certain cases, it sure isn't seduction or consensual at the least. Young women sometimes confuse and mistake rough treatment with something natural, like it's things as they are, when it is not. That's a self-esteem issue, which is something that sisters are still working on with other sisters in the community.

Do yourself a favor. Read, and then don't read stuff into what I write. This is a two-way street, which I already recognize.

I will disregard the tone and dig in your post. But take a bit of your own advice and read.

What I said:
But this victimhood thing with "If only the brothers werent bringing it home" is tired IMO.

You may or may not have been saying that in your post. But its a pet peeve of mine especially when trying to educate folks in the community.



blksista, if you really were interested in the 2 way street than you would recognize and act on it.

While I can understand how women should not percieve themselves as victims, and act proactively to protect themselves at all times.

It is the male who transmits HIV to woman...not vice versa.

Excuse me, but bitch please.

I said, the brothers are bringing it to them. Nothing at all about where was implied. I said the sisters are not asking questions but leaping to the occasion, implying that they aren't thinking about their own sexual health.

F*ck off on the victimhood stuff. I said before, you are reading shyt into what I said. I am not responsible for your problem.

Ordinarily, I like what you have to say, Trumystique. But I think that in this case, you really have to BTFU.

blksista, I said your comment reminded me of the victimhood meme. But clearly acknowledged in my post that might NOT have been what you were trying to say.

I see you are in a really pissy mood and cant have a conversation. Maybe we can talk again when you are responding to what I have actually written instead of responding to some internal dialogue, flying off the handle and cussing me out.

Right.

Still blaming.

I'm so over this conversation.

rikyrah: Just watching a 5 year-old naming the Presidents. Jaden Wilkins/Lexington Kentucky.

He started reciting all o' them from George Washington! AMAZING!!

Tamron hall asked him for the name of the 21st prez. He named him!!

She asked: How did you learn all of this? Jaden: I learned all by myself. My mom brought me books!

Just 2 ca-ute!! :>) :>) More "cheeks" 2 pinch! :>) :>)

Hi Green Lady...thank you for your comments about my son Jaden who was on MSNBC the other day with Tamron Hall. We are very proud of our 5 year old "Presidential Whiz Kid".

Phil Wilkins

Mr. Wilkins: U R 2 kind! U should B proud of your son! :>)

Please give him my best wishes!! :>) :>)

God Bless him/family. :>)

Osama Bin Laden Challenges Obama In Tape

As I read this I couldn't help but think, are Osama and his allies responsible for our economic crisis? Are they pulling out money invested in the markets contributing to the downward spiral of the Dow? I remember there being threats long ago that Al-Queda would attack us finacially. Is it possible?

Sure it's possible, but clearly the greater threat to America's economic security is not Al-Qaeda right now. It's Israel.

Just in the last 24 hours, we learned that:
- Israel wanted to attack/bomb Iran, but even BushLucifer wasn't going along with that shyt.
- Israel has killed nearly a 1,000 people in Gaza. How many Israelis have died from rocket attacks? Nobody has a statistic for that shit. Why not??? What's Israel's rationale for destabilizing the region to hunt Hamas so ineffectively with so much collateral damage?
- Israel's combined actions are driving the price of gasoline up again.

If you ask me, I'm praying that Barack will do two things:
1. I hope that he will let Osama Bin Laden know that we are coming for him. Yes, we are really coming for his ass now--no matter where that m***f**ka is.
2. I hope that Israel get's SHUT OUT. Completely cut off the funds. I'm absolutely-unequivocally-totally AGAINST MY TAX DOLLARS BEING USED TO KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN.

Osama bin Laden is dead.

I have been saying this for years. Osama is in NYC chilling. He is probably in Jackson Heights or may be in downtown Brooklyn getting his dialysis at the local kidney center and laughing at Bush while he releases his tapes.He be laughing at Obama too. Thats why there are no videotapes because there wouldnt be any mountains in the background but rather a brownstone or prewar building in the background and he doesnt want anyone closing in on his position. Osama been taking notes from Slobadan Milosevic

But we don't have proof of him alive or dead, for that matter.

Some realities don't require proof.

BOXMUSIC 02: SCOTT K. + LAITHIE vs 'O8AMA "DREAMS of UNITY"

A FREE DIGITAL DOWLOAD - PLEASE SHARE LIBERALLY
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This is funny and on point.
Yo Comments Are Whack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tt-WIdmCVQ

It's like Schoolhouse Rock for the 21st century (LOL)

djchefron, 4 REALZ! :-)

Aretha Franklin Lends Her Voice to History at Inauguration

By Elysa Gardner, USA TODAY-Life Section D- January 14, 2009

If Barack Obama feels like a change of pace after his gig as leader of the free world, he might consider a singing career. That's according to no less an authority than Aretha Franklin.
The president-elect "has a good, melodic voice," says Franklin, who heard him croon at a rally in Detroit last year. "He knew I was there, and he sang a fabulous version of Chain of Fools. Well, he sang the hook. The crowd just loved it."

The Queen of Soul will return the favor Tuesday when she performs on the steps of the Capitol to commemorate Obama's inauguration. She's excited "to be part of this special moment in American history and in African-American history."

There is more.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2009-01...

Halle playing Aretha in the biopic? Sorry, just can't see it. On the other hand, Jennifer Hudson or Jill Scott would be good choices.

MsKitty, I can't see Halle playing ReRe either. Nothing personal, Halle, but, uh,um, arah, can she even carry a tune?

I can see Jill Scott, J. Hud or Fantasia.

I hope the Inaugural Committee hooked her up with a couple of good, skrong bras.

Sepia, you mean like this?

http://declubz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008...

BWA HAHAHAHAHA!

Sepia: U R wild!! LOL! :>) :>)

Aretha looks good in that photo.

God, I can't wait!

Hey guys,

Good Morning!

Thanks for your well wishes. You guys sure can make a person feel good! I'm lucky to be among you. I'm not in any pain anymore. Just wanna let you know the Vicodin worked last night. It had me out. But when I woke this morning, my jaw is so swollen.It looks bad.(tears) The Doc put in a jell packing and that may be causing the swelling (according to nurse). I am waiting on a call back from the Doc now to see what's going on.


You guys at JJP are the best! Love you!

I hope your teeth fall out!!

Said with love, of course.

Maybe. :)

Why you're being mean, D?


Until you do right by me...everything you touch.... :)

I said it with love!!!

I suppose I could be mean and start an argument with you while you're in an drug-induced haze. But that just wouldn't be....(sigh) fair.

So get better. :)

(and I am proud to say that I get your joke, having seen that movie for the first time last year. Don't ask.)

Whenever CPL does any impression of the movie, it cracks me up!

She's a riot!

I hope you feel better.

Thanks for your concern Admiral!

Hey! Glad to hear you're feeling better! :-)

Hey Sepia!

Thank you. I'm lucky to be among such good people here at JJP!

Justice58: Crowd Cheer And Applause

YOU'RE BACK!! Yaaaaa! Continue to take care of yourself,

Annnnnnnnnd, rest! Go slowly! O.K? :>) :>)

God Bless!

Thanks GreenLady!

You're such a doll! I am not in pain but my jaw is swollen & it looks ugly! Eww!

lol

Justice58: Glad that you are NOT in pain. :>) :>)

The "ugly" will go away IN TIME!! :>) :>) TRUST!

Great to see you back so soon. Hopefully the coming days will continue to be pain free.

Thank you, MsKitty!

So glad you're feeling better!! Take care of yourself!

Thank you, Miranda!


Are you still being witty? I miss it!

Hi Justice, sooo glad you got a good night's sleep. You stay on top of things. Did you get an antibiotic before the dental work?

Spirit,

No I didn't. And he didn't give me a precription for any yesterday. Just the Vicodin. Hopefully, the swelling will go down soon!

Thank You everyone! <<<Hugs>>>

Interesting, usually an antibiotic is recommended before dental work of this nature. It's used prophylactically to keep infections at bay. the swelling should go down in a day or two.

You might consider "Arnica" It's a homeopathic for pain and swelling. It comes in cream which you can apply on your jaw or in a desolvable tab and doesn't interfere with prescribed meds.

anyhoo, the nurse is coming out in me. You take care!!!!!! Sending you lots of heart love!

anyhoo, the nurse is coming out in me.


Good! So happy we have a nurse on board! Yay!

I need a nurse's advice! Thanks, Spirit!

The Gaza war is way out of hand. Here's the casualites by the numbers

Israel vs Gaza: 985 to 13 and Counting
http://newsone.blackplanet.com/world/israel-vs-...

i'm tired of california and californians getting scapegoated. that proposition might well have passed in EVERY state in the nation. we are a homophobic nation, yet suddenly CALIFORNIA is to blame for everything. please.

My cold heart for Al is melting...

wow

True dat! Preach on!

Keep bringing it, Al!

"There is something immoral and sick about using all of that power to not end brutality and poverty, but to break into people's bedrooms and claim that God sent you," Sharpton said bluntly."

WORD!

THAT WAS THE LINE RIGHT THERE!! WELL SAID REV...WELL SAID

Talk about bringing a gun to a knife fight. He's bringing a predator w/ Hellfire. I'll bet dollars to donuts if Rev Al is on everynight w/ Hannity he's gone before 20 broadcasts(four weeks)

Obama official portrait revealed, link.

icebergslim: I just wanna "HUG" her! BUT, I'm sure that she is receiving many of them! :>)

Would Dr. King Still Be a Republican?

Y'all have fun with this one.

(responding to myself seems so schizophrenic)

None of you have said anything that I seriously can take issue to, which is why I haven't said anything.

Over on the Republican Party of VA page-who I actually wrote this for-they're making the argument that MLK would still be a Republican today. It's interesting seeing the two different dynamics.

Great piece.....but you know we are going to have fun with this.

Basically everything that djchefron said. Dr. King would be so disappointed to hear the comments of Republicans like Michelle Bachmann claim like "All cultures are not equal." or that the way you malign a Presidential candidate is to place emphasis on his name from birth with the goal of creating anti-Arab/Muslim sentiment. Dr. King would probably also fing the "pro-America" and "fake America" comments disgusting. And with Obama being called a "communist" or "Socialist", he may have even had a case of deja vu, since his critics called him a "communist" too.....isn't if funny how that works?!

Dr. King would absolutely be ashamed of the hatemongers like Ann "Adam's-apple" Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savages and other "conserative" talking dummies.

But as far as fiscally conservative, I have yet to see a republican President who carried it out. GWBush sure the hell hasn't, neither his father or Ronald Reagan. "Fiscally consevative" republicans has been a myth, a folk tale....and basically all we have been left with is deficits and record spending


Dr. King, of course left us with so many eloquent words, which can be so relative today:

"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom. "

This quote to me is very relevant to torture:
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."

I don't think there is any way Dr. King would still be a republican.

MLK wouldnt be a Republican. I dont think he would be a Democrat either (given the way it has sold out many of its principles to big business). I think the party most convergent with King's ideals would be the Green Party.

Quite possibly...I was mostly trying to answer D.'s question regarding Dr King as a Republican...surely I am not trumping Democrats or any other political party.....I personally just think Republicans recent tactics have been the most repulsive...but no party is perfect.

Monie: Co-sign!! :>)

Dr. Joseph Lowery said Dr. King was neither a Republican nor a Democrat, he was a Baptist.

I would say no.Dr.King was about peace.The republican party worships militasim.Dr.King was about education.The republican party celebrates ignorance.Dr.King was against poverty.The republican party rewards the few at the expense of the many.Dr. King believe in the equality of all people.The republican party believes certain groups of people needs to be hated.

djchefron, brilliantly said.

I hear you, Mrs. O, and my MLK Day assignment is confirmed! =)

Officer Arrested in Oakland BART Killing (Update: Charge is Murder)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/1/14/05715/6...

It's about time!

I cannot help but hope he spends the rest of his natural life in prison. It won't brink Oscar back but these cops need to reigned in. They need to be taught that they cannot see black lives as disposable. Being a cop he will have to spend it in solitary confinement as well

And he should be tried for MURDER.

I'm just sickend that in the 21st century, in order to bring a cop killer to justice is for folks to riot and destroy their own neighborhood!

Amen!

Action had to be forced! Shameful.

It took long enough! Make him pay!

Thank you for the well wishes!

The update says he was taken into custody in Nevada. He knows he is guilty. Dead man walking.

David Bowie's 'back catalogue bonds' may have started the credit crunch
He’s always been a trendsetter. But could David Bowie have caused the latest fad sweeping the nation – the credit crunch?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/01/12/...

To the guardian bitchplease. Securitization is not the problem. It's what Fannie Mae(FNM), Ginnie Mae(GMNA) did for years before this. It is all an annuity is. The problem was what was securitized. Bowie and his finance people can and did prove he would receive X amount of income from his royalities over Y amount of years plus or minus calculations for increases /decreases in royalty rates, inflation and the cost of money. They lent him money (issued bonds-securities)based on these calcualtions beause they were real. With 2/28 subprime loan there was no guarantee whatsoever that the people w/ them would be able to refinance at a lower rate or they had the income to do so if they had to refinance at higher rates. The hook was that the value of houses would continue to appreciate providing a cushion. It was totally unrealistic given the machinations you had to go through to get them a loan. The standard mortgage loan having been 30year fixed, 20% down and PROOF of income which people without adequate income and savings could not have.

I'm looking for a clip. Monday, January 12, 2009. Hardball. The segments with the Dark Sith and Michelle Bernard.

any links would be helpful.

rikyrah, here's the transcript of the segment. Still tracking the vid.

http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/0...

spirit: GOOD FIND! :>) :>)

Are you sure that is the right date? What was the topic?

those last segments he has each day with members of the press or commentators. They spoke about Obama's victory, and they played the clip of Cosby on MTP when he spoke about voting for Obama. Dark Sith turned down the haterade, but Bernard was beautiful and eloquent.

rikyrah: I saw that clip! It WAS as you described. [Spirit identified the transcript.] GOOD FIND!! :>)

I was pleasantly surprised at DS - - for twice. :>) [He had another moment at ONE point in time.] :>) :>)