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	<title>Comments on: Someone Tell Samuel Jackson That Rosa Parks Wasn&#8217;t Just A Seamstress</title>
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		<title>By: AgnesW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AgnesW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disqus ate my long reply&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you are absolutely right. The story of the struggle for civil rights is too important and complex to allow it to be reduced to the broadest of outlines.</description>
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<p>But you are absolutely right. The story of the struggle for civil rights is too important and complex to allow it to be reduced to the broadest of outlines.</p>
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		<title>By: AgnesW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AgnesW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disqus ate my long reply&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you are absolutely right. The story of the struggle for civil rights is too important and complex to allow it to be reduced to the broadest of outlines.</description>
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<p>But you are absolutely right. The story of the struggle for civil rights is too important and complex to allow it to be reduced to the broadest of outlines.</p>
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		<title>By: organizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>organizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a union organizer and I although I&#039;d studied the Civil Rights Movement, I didn&#039;t learn about Highlander until I started working.  How do you learn about Highlander?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m a union organizer and I although I&#39;d studied the Civil Rights Movement, I didn&#39;t learn about Highlander until I started working.  How do you learn about Highlander?</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some men will try to cross boundaries without your permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some men will try to cross boundaries without your permission.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I can&#039;t get with leaving out important fact about key folks who did important work for any movement because of race, sexural orientation, class..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s like the Great Pyramids, and leaving out fact that an ARCHITECT desinged it and the BUILDER&#039;S HANDS contructed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  I can&#39;t get with leaving out important fact about key folks who did important work for any movement because of race, sexural orientation, class..</p>
<p>It&#39;s like the Great Pyramids, and leaving out fact that an ARCHITECT desinged it and the BUILDER&#39;S HANDS contructed it.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I can&#039;t get with leaving out important facts about key folks in any movement because of sexual orientation, age, race, class.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is like building the Great pyramids, but leaving out the facts that an ARCHITECT designed it and the BUILDER&#039;s HANDS were used to build it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  I can&#39;t get with leaving out important facts about key folks in any movement because of sexual orientation, age, race, class&#8230;..</p>
<p>It is like building the Great pyramids, but leaving out the facts that an ARCHITECT designed it and the BUILDER&#39;s HANDS were used to build it.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, my Dad explained how, if you allow them, &lt;i&gt; some &lt;/i&gt; men will cross boundaries with you especially if they sense there is no man around.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly, the notion of sexist intimidation isn&#039;t far fetched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, my Dad explained how, if you allow them, <i> some </i> men will cross boundaries with you especially if they sense there is no man around.  </p>
<p>Sadly, the notion of sexist intimidation isn&#39;t far fetched.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If so this does not reflect back on to Rosa Parks but rather casts aspersions onto the political strategies of the civil rights movement in the early 1950s.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;::&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Correct. I didn&#039;t write a clear sentence. I meant that the complete history of Rosa Parks&#039; choosing isn&#039;t all that flattering, as you argue, not that Rosa Parks herself was unflattering.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bayard Rustin was a man. But he was marginalized by Black male patriarchy as well. The FBI even wanted to sully MLK with guilt by association. If he was Rustin&#039;s friend, then he, too, must be gay.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A complete history must include these discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If so this does not reflect back on to Rosa Parks but rather casts aspersions onto the political strategies of the civil rights movement in the early 1950s.</i></p>
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<p>Correct. I didn&#39;t write a clear sentence. I meant that the complete history of Rosa Parks&#39; choosing isn&#39;t all that flattering, as you argue, not that Rosa Parks herself was unflattering.</p>
<p>Bayard Rustin was a man. But he was marginalized by Black male patriarchy as well. The FBI even wanted to sully MLK with guilt by association. If he was Rustin&#39;s friend, then he, too, must be gay.</p>
<p>A complete history must include these discussions.</p>
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		<title>By: AgnesW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AgnesW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joanne Robinson&#039;s book _Montgomery Bus Boycott and the Women Who Started It: The Memoir of Jo Ann Gibson Robinson_ detailed women&#039;s work in the Montgomery bus boycott movement has detailed the significant work that women undertook to garner freedom for their community. Rosa  Parks like many other women worked a full day and then a second or third shift for civil rights. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rosa Parks was selected to be the catalyst for the bus boycott because she was older, married, well-educated, trained in civil disobedience, a veteran of the struggle and in possession of an impeccable character and most importantly, an unblemished reputation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The year before, a young, unmarried, pregnant girl [she was 16 or 17 if I recall correctly] was forced to move seats and when she refused she was kicked off the bus, etc. When she asked the NACCP and other local civil rights organizations to take up the matter they demurred--she was not the sort of person the movement could back as she lacked middl-class respectability. Is this the unflattering part of the story you refer to? If so this does not reflect back on to Rosa Parks but rather casts aspersions onto the political strategies of the civil rights movement in the early 1950s. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Additionally, as to the matter of why histories of the civil rights struggle undercut the role of women in the struggle, the answer is complex. Yes, women are self-denigrating but it is more than that. It has everything to do with the low status of African American women in the academy one of the long-standing truisms is that &quot;all the men are black and all of the women are white&quot; which means that black studies courses and books focus on African American men and women&#039;s studies courses and books tend to focus on white women. Additionally, AfAm women are marginalized by their community because of the struggle for black men to assert their identity as men, as patriarchal men thus many movements have sought to downplay the leadership role of women as they amplify the leadership roles of the community&#039;s men. This happened among &#039;progressive&#039; whites in the 1960s. Read Todd Gitlin&#039;s self-serving memoir on the 1960s and you see how common how this pattern holds up among whites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joanne Robinson&#39;s book _Montgomery Bus Boycott and the Women Who Started It: The Memoir of Jo Ann Gibson Robinson_ detailed women&#39;s work in the Montgomery bus boycott movement has detailed the significant work that women undertook to garner freedom for their community. Rosa  Parks like many other women worked a full day and then a second or third shift for civil rights. </p>
<p>Rosa Parks was selected to be the catalyst for the bus boycott because she was older, married, well-educated, trained in civil disobedience, a veteran of the struggle and in possession of an impeccable character and most importantly, an unblemished reputation. </p>
<p>The year before, a young, unmarried, pregnant girl [she was 16 or 17 if I recall correctly] was forced to move seats and when she refused she was kicked off the bus, etc. When she asked the NACCP and other local civil rights organizations to take up the matter they demurred&#8211;she was not the sort of person the movement could back as she lacked middl-class respectability. Is this the unflattering part of the story you refer to? If so this does not reflect back on to Rosa Parks but rather casts aspersions onto the political strategies of the civil rights movement in the early 1950s. </p>
<p>Additionally, as to the matter of why histories of the civil rights struggle undercut the role of women in the struggle, the answer is complex. Yes, women are self-denigrating but it is more than that. It has everything to do with the low status of African American women in the academy one of the long-standing truisms is that &#8220;all the men are black and all of the women are white&#8221; which means that black studies courses and books focus on African American men and women&#39;s studies courses and books tend to focus on white women. Additionally, AfAm women are marginalized by their community because of the struggle for black men to assert their identity as men, as patriarchal men thus many movements have sought to downplay the leadership role of women as they amplify the leadership roles of the community&#39;s men. This happened among &#39;progressive&#39; whites in the 1960s. Read Todd Gitlin&#39;s self-serving memoir on the 1960s and you see how common how this pattern holds up among whites.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THanks!</description>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the &lt;i&gt;complete&lt;/i&gt; history of Rosa Parks isn&#039;t all that flattering, really.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They myth of Rosa Parks was created by those who put Rosa Parks front and center.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we don&#039;t include that, then we aren&#039;t being complete and we aren&#039;t learning our lessons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s a discussion about Bayard Rustin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Safe to say, most Black folks have no idea who he is and what debt they owe him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because he was gay.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s talk about that history, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the <i>complete</i> history of Rosa Parks isn&#39;t all that flattering, really.</p>
<p>They myth of Rosa Parks was created by those who put Rosa Parks front and center.</p>
<p>If we don&#39;t include that, then we aren&#39;t being complete and we aren&#39;t learning our lessons.</p>
<p>There&#39;s a discussion about Bayard Rustin.</p>
<p>Safe to say, most Black folks have no idea who he is and what debt they owe him.</p>
<p>Because he was gay.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s talk about that history, too.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly disagree with your last sentence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I cannot even begin to type how much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly disagree with your last sentence.</p>
<p>I cannot even begin to type how much.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He helped organize the March on Washington. He was a friend and mentor of MLK. The techniques of non-violennt resistance were his specialty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In some circles, he&#039;s called the father of the Civil Rights Movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He helped organize the March on Washington. He was a friend and mentor of MLK. The techniques of non-violennt resistance were his specialty.</p>
<p>In some circles, he&#39;s called the father of the Civil Rights Movement.</p>
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		<title>By: adriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post and follow up. I took a politics of protest class in undergrad, and we talked about Parks&#039; activism before the bus boycott. I agree, she was very involved and knew what she was doing. History, as painted by the white establishment, wants us to believe that she was this tired lady who just was too tired to give up her seat. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s too bad that Samuel Jackson took the bait without doing the homework. And it is just as bad for everyone who does not know the full story and who will take at face value what he said just because he&#039;s a celeb. This is why we need blogs, history books, college courses on this stuff, etc. because you aren&#039;t going to learn this in your regular K-12 public school curriculum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post and follow up. I took a politics of protest class in undergrad, and we talked about Parks&#39; activism before the bus boycott. I agree, she was very involved and knew what she was doing. History, as painted by the white establishment, wants us to believe that she was this tired lady who just was too tired to give up her seat. </p>
<p>It&#39;s too bad that Samuel Jackson took the bait without doing the homework. And it is just as bad for everyone who does not know the full story and who will take at face value what he said just because he&#39;s a celeb. This is why we need blogs, history books, college courses on this stuff, etc. because you aren&#39;t going to learn this in your regular K-12 public school curriculum.</p>
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		<title>By: Admiral_Komack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.</description>
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		<title>By: soulsistah02</title>
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		<dc:creator>soulsistah02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!</description>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welll.....ya know, I probably should&#039;ve used that tack when I asked the questions above.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There was a whole lot of sh*t happening on inauguration day in relation to this &#039;radio host&#039; and we&#039;re going to confront it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welll&#8230;..ya know, I probably should&#39;ve used that tack when I asked the questions above.</p>
<p>There was a whole lot of sh*t happening on inauguration day in relation to this &#39;radio host&#39; and we&#39;re going to confront it.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a perfect example of of the fact that King&#039;s dream hasn&#039;t been fulfilled.  You&#039;re filled with hate and clearly lacking a education that should be afforded to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a perfect example of of the fact that King&#39;s dream hasn&#39;t been fulfilled.  You&#39;re filled with hate and clearly lacking a education that should be afforded to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not familiar with him...what was his strategy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not familiar with him&#8230;what was his strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. There are chapters in the Bay Area of CA if that helps.</description>
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