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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree.</description>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree.</description>
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		<title>By: TariqNelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TariqNelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why it went out of vogue. I think that it came back because many saw the importance of having fathers in the home and the impact on greater society</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know why it went out of vogue. I think that it came back because many saw the importance of having fathers in the home and the impact on greater society</p>
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		<title>By: antennaness</title>
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		<dc:creator>antennaness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad too, TariqNelson.  Why do you suppose it went out and what brought it back in vogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m glad too, TariqNelson.  Why do you suppose it went out and what brought it back in vogue.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice58:  Ohhh!  YES!!  Daddy, like all the &quot;daddies&quot; mentioned here, was A VERY SPECIAL MAN!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOVE &#039;IM!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice58:  Ohhh!  YES!!  Daddy, like all the &#8220;daddies&#8221; mentioned here, was A VERY SPECIAL MAN!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
<p>LOVE &#39;IM!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GreenLady,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kudos to your family!  Sounds like a very loving man.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve only known one man in my life that would hand over his entire paycheck to his wife and that is one of my sister&#039;s husband.  I always was amazed by that. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My ex gave me money but he didn&#039;t give it all to me(lol) but my sister&#039;s husband sure did!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreenLady,</p>
<p>Kudos to your family!  Sounds like a very loving man.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve only known one man in my life that would hand over his entire paycheck to his wife and that is one of my sister&#39;s husband.  I always was amazed by that. </p>
<p>My ex gave me money but he didn&#39;t give it all to me(lol) but my sister&#39;s husband sure did!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lamh31:    THANK YOU, AGAIN, for this vid!!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lamh31:    THANK YOU, AGAIN, for this vid!!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJai:  I&#039;m a little LATE, BUT. . . . . . .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My daddy showned me how a REAL MAN is &#039;pose ta treat his lady/wife.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Erry payday, he would bring his PAY home and count IT out at the kitchen table.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IFFF we even &quot;axed&quot; for a penny, as he HANDED ALL of the MONEY to mommy, he would say - - -- &quot;You have to &quot;axe&quot; her, &#039;cause THAT&#039;S NOT my money!  It&#039;s HERS so that she can take care of the house.&quot;      ***tears***&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes he had his &quot;hustles on the side&quot;. So he had some $$$&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BUT,  he was showing ALL o&#039; us that he RESPECTS HIS WIFE and the work that SHE does to take care of the family!!     ***tears***&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DADDY WAS &quot;THE MAN!!&quot;   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJai:  I&#39;m a little LATE, BUT. . . . . . .</p>
<p>My daddy showned me how a REAL MAN is &#39;pose ta treat his lady/wife.</p>
<p>Erry payday, he would bring his PAY home and count IT out at the kitchen table.  </p>
<p>IFFF we even &#8220;axed&#8221; for a penny, as he HANDED ALL of the MONEY to mommy, he would say &#8211; - &#8212; &#8220;You have to &#8220;axe&#8221; her, &#39;cause THAT&#39;S NOT my money!  It&#39;s HERS so that she can take care of the house.&#8221;      ***tears***</p>
<p>Yes he had his &#8220;hustles on the side&#8221;. So he had some $$$</p>
<p>BUT,  he was showing ALL o&#39; us that he RESPECTS HIS WIFE and the work that SHE does to take care of the family!!     ***tears***</p>
<p>DADDY WAS &#8220;THE MAN!!&#8221;   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPL et al:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGbnua2kSa8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;That&#039;s What Friends Are For - Dionne Warwick &amp; Friends HQ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;REALLY ENJOY!!   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPL et al:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGbnua2kSa8" rel="nofollow">That&#39;s What Friends Are For &#8211; Dionne Warwick &#038; Friends HQ</a></p>
<p>REALLY ENJOY!!   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Anovelista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anovelista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I like the idea of a First Lady who is a proud African-American woman with no need to resort to &quot;kicking someone&#039;s ass&quot; to prove how &quot;strong&quot; she is. And she could care less about being pegged as &quot;helpless&quot; or &quot;sniveling&quot; because she is secure enough not to go there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Believe it or not, some proud Black women get through life and accomplish things without &quot;smearing vaseline&quot; on their face and kicking ass. Even if they can - Not unlike our First Lady.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I would add Eleanor Roosevelt, Betty Ford (founder of the Berry Ford Center, one of the first public figures to discuss her breast cancer) and Nancy Reagan (not always likeable, but hardly helpless) to the non &quot;helpless/sniveling&quot; First Lady list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I said earlier, generally I&#039;m with you - and I&#039;m all for humor - but I am really over this ass-kicking &quot;Superwoman&quot; Amazonian stereotype for Black women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I like the idea of a First Lady who is a proud African-American woman with no need to resort to &#8220;kicking someone&#39;s ass&#8221; to prove how &#8220;strong&#8221; she is. And she could care less about being pegged as &#8220;helpless&#8221; or &#8220;sniveling&#8221; because she is secure enough not to go there.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, some proud Black women get through life and accomplish things without &#8220;smearing vaseline&#8221; on their face and kicking ass. Even if they can &#8211; Not unlike our First Lady.</p>
<p>Also, I would add Eleanor Roosevelt, Betty Ford (founder of the Berry Ford Center, one of the first public figures to discuss her breast cancer) and Nancy Reagan (not always likeable, but hardly helpless) to the non &#8220;helpless/sniveling&#8221; First Lady list.</p>
<p>As I said earlier, generally I&#39;m with you &#8211; and I&#39;m all for humor &#8211; but I am really over this ass-kicking &#8220;Superwoman&#8221; Amazonian stereotype for Black women.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
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		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, too.  Quiet as it&#039;s kept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, too.  Quiet as it&#39;s kept.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
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		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, man.  I wish Steve WAS here.  That brother could turn out some universe-class commentary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rest in peace, Steve, but please come back soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, man.  I wish Steve WAS here.  That brother could turn out some universe-class commentary.</p>
<p>Rest in peace, Steve, but please come back soon.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOLOL,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m hoping they will have the common sense to STHU, but hey, it didn&#039;t work for Clinton, either.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just hope Barack doesn&#039;t have too many ex-girlfriends to come out the woodwork so Regency Publishing can offer fat money for them to write tell-all books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOLOL,</p>
<p>I&#39;m hoping they will have the common sense to STHU, but hey, it didn&#39;t work for Clinton, either.</p>
<p>I just hope Barack doesn&#39;t have too many ex-girlfriends to come out the woodwork so Regency Publishing can offer fat money for them to write tell-all books.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I forgot Ann Coulter is ACTUALLY A MAN.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I humbly apologize to trannies everywhere.  They are more fabulous when they dress up that I&#039;m in total awe of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad.</p>
<p>I forgot Ann Coulter is ACTUALLY A MAN.</p>
<p>I humbly apologize to trannies everywhere.  They are more fabulous when they dress up that I&#39;m in total awe of them.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True that, Denise.  Play the race card when everything else lines up and the only factor in the difference in treatment is RACE OR GENDER.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And ITA, Rush didn&#039;t have to play the race card, but it appears Reid was going to play it and hoped nobody was watching him do it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reid studied long and studied WRONG.  If he knew what the hell he was doing, he would have stayed out of this shyt.  Not only is he trying to block Burris, but also Caroline Kennedy and Al Franken as well, so his hands aren&#039;t clean in this mess AT ALL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blago played him like an 8-TRACK, and now he&#039;s going to get burned.  Maybe this will mean Obama will get another Senate Majority Leader that will lead in the Senate the way he needs to get his projects accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True that, Denise.  Play the race card when everything else lines up and the only factor in the difference in treatment is RACE OR GENDER.</p>
<p>And ITA, Rush didn&#39;t have to play the race card, but it appears Reid was going to play it and hoped nobody was watching him do it.  </p>
<p>Reid studied long and studied WRONG.  If he knew what the hell he was doing, he would have stayed out of this shyt.  Not only is he trying to block Burris, but also Caroline Kennedy and Al Franken as well, so his hands aren&#39;t clean in this mess AT ALL.</p>
<p>Blago played him like an 8-TRACK, and now he&#39;s going to get burned.  Maybe this will mean Obama will get another Senate Majority Leader that will lead in the Senate the way he needs to get his projects accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like we&#039;re going to listen to THEM.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ROFLMAO!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now that it&#039;s discovered that Harry Reid&#039;s in this up to his ASS, the Kossacks have caught the vapours by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like we&#39;re going to listen to THEM.</p>
<p>ROFLMAO!!!!</p>
<p>Now that it&#39;s discovered that Harry Reid&#39;s in this up to his ASS, the Kossacks have caught the vapours by now.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but if Ah-nold wanted the job, he could have challenged Davis when it was re-election time.  As a California resident, there&#039;s no worse feeling than engaging in the election process and then having an entity discount your vote like you didn&#039;t matter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was happy to get my own revenge on Ah-nold by helping to send those ballot initiatives he called a special election for (and we couldn&#039;t afford) to defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but if Ah-nold wanted the job, he could have challenged Davis when it was re-election time.  As a California resident, there&#39;s no worse feeling than engaging in the election process and then having an entity discount your vote like you didn&#39;t matter.</p>
<p>I was happy to get my own revenge on Ah-nold by helping to send those ballot initiatives he called a special election for (and we couldn&#39;t afford) to defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  Only progressive left in the Bay, besides Barbara Lee in Oakland, is Lynn Woolsey in Petaluma, and Barbara Boxer in the Senate.  Anna Eschoo, maybe, but the rest of the women, especially Ellen what&#039;s-her-name over in Contra Costa County, are selling out as fast as Pelosi and Feinstein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  Only progressive left in the Bay, besides Barbara Lee in Oakland, is Lynn Woolsey in Petaluma, and Barbara Boxer in the Senate.  Anna Eschoo, maybe, but the rest of the women, especially Ellen what&#39;s-her-name over in Contra Costa County, are selling out as fast as Pelosi and Feinstein.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m praying that Feinstein retires when its her turn to run for re-election.  She should be around 80 or close to it by then, and needs to go home to that super-corrupt hubby of hers who made his fortune ripping off the Labor Unions in Ess Eff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m praying that Feinstein retires when its her turn to run for re-election.  She should be around 80 or close to it by then, and needs to go home to that super-corrupt hubby of hers who made his fortune ripping off the Labor Unions in Ess Eff.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but I like the idea of a First Lady who is a proud African-American woman, who, yeah, can kick someone&#039;s ass - not the helpless, sniveling women (Hillary and Jackie Kennedy being the exceptions, and maybe Rosalynn Carter) we have had to endure since there have been First Ladies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes, I get a laugh, sometimes I don&#039;t - just like Almond Joy. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m sorry, but I like the idea of a First Lady who is a proud African-American woman, who, yeah, can kick someone&#39;s ass &#8211; not the helpless, sniveling women (Hillary and Jackie Kennedy being the exceptions, and maybe Rosalynn Carter) we have had to endure since there have been First Ladies.</p>
<p>Sometimes, I get a laugh, sometimes I don&#39;t &#8211; just like Almond Joy. LOL</p>
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