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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be something.    My inspiration came from a recent article in the San Jose Mercury.   It was about a local 81 yr old woman who runs marathons for her age group and she started at 61!!   I love it.    I&#039;m up to 2 1/2 mi now.  My goal is to be able to eventually do half marathons.    That will take awhile.</description>
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		<title>By: Micheline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Duke loses it over Michael Steele.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/david_duke_loses_it_over_michael_steele_at_rnc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Duke loses it over Michael Steele.</p>
<p><a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/david_duke_loses_it_over_michael_steele_at_rnc/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav.." rel="nofollow">http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah:  Weeelllllll - -One of us is up waaaaay early this morning!     :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gotta  &quot;bounce and pray&quot; ALL DAY!   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sooo, I&#039;ll make a SUNDAY post on this thread, O.K?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2009,   -DAY 12-  Of His FIRST 100 DAYS!&lt;/b&gt;    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18247.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Obama rocks the Alfalfa Club&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;How big is Barack Obama right now?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even the well-heeled, well-tailored and well-connected members of the Alfalfa Club all but tripped over their patent leather shoes and floor-length gowns to get a moment Saturday night with the man who happens to be both the new president and world’s most buzzed-about living figure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now in its 96th year, the 200-member club has one mission: to put on a black tie dinner in Washington on the last Saturday in January where some of the most powerful figures in politics and commerce can mingle and jocularly nominate one of their own to run for President of the United States—all out of the prying eyes of the press, who are forced to rely on second-hand accounts from those in the room.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Three of the faux nominees have actually gone on to win the real thing, which goes a long way toward indicating what sort of club this is. Think ambassadors, Supreme Court justices, media magnates, the Bush family and Henry Kissinger. To put it in Obama—er Lincoln—terms, it’s a soiree of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. Star-struck they’re not.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;[NOTE:  NOW, to the part which can B entitled - - - -NO He Di &#039;int!  :&gt;)]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;But Obama spread the wealth, so to speak, taking care to gently tweak himself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps suggesting that his frequent invocations of Lincoln were justified, the second Illinoisan to become president noted of the first: “He never drew crowds like that.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SKIP&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To Vernon Jordan, the power lawyer who won this year’s honor as Alfafa&#039;s presidential nominee, Obama observed: “Just because a guy can give great speeches doesn’t mean he’s going to be a great president.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course this being a political crowd in a political town after the ultimate political year, Obama got in a few campaign yuks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Looking&lt;u&gt; to Joe Lieberman,&lt;/u&gt; the Democrat-turned-independent-turned McCain supporter, Obama told the Connecticut senator he had no hard feelings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The door is always open, Obama assured Lieberman, who observes the Sabbath, &lt;u&gt;so feel to drop by—any Saturday afternoon.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;To Palin,&lt;/u&gt; Obama expressed surprise to see her with such members of the Washington elite she railed against during the campaign. Or, as he termed it in language Palin is familiar with,&lt;u&gt; “palling around with this crew.”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;[NOTE:  HAH!!!   GOTCHA!!!  Mild - - Saaa-lap!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)   LOVED IT!!]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;An era of New Politics or not, the Alfalfas are still influential enough to command a visit from the president, his first banquet duty since taking office, and subject him to watching the club’s clubby rituals and Friar’s club-style humor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thankfully for Obama, much of it came at the expense of that club that really has fallen on hard times: the Republicans.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THERE IS MORE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; 2. &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/01/obama-rooting-for-steelers-in-001565.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama rooting for Steelers in Super Bowl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;President Barack Obama has violated the ancient political rule of noninvolvement in sports disputes among competing constituents. He&#039;s taken sides in the Super Bowl.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The president said he is rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, although he took pains to applaud the Cinderella story of the Arizona Cardinals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I wish the Cardinals the best,&quot; Obama said in a media availability at the White House on Friday, but he described himself as &quot;a longtime Steelers fan.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama said Steelers owner Dan Rooney, a longtime Republican, had supported his campaign, as had former Steelers star Franco Harris, who campaigned with the candidate in Pittsburgh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Other than the Bears,&quot; Obama said, &quot;the Steelers are probably the team that&#039;s closest to my heart.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile, the White House announced that Obama will hold a Super Bowl party on Sunday, inviting several members of Congress, including Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL) and Del. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (D-DC) of the Congressional Black Caucus.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;WATCH VIDEO:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THAT&#039;S ALL FOR NOW!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;HAVE A GREAT &quot;SUPERBOWL DAY!&quot;    :&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah:  Weeelllllll &#8211; -One of us is up waaaaay early this morning!     :&gt;)</p>
<p>Gotta  &#8220;bounce and pray&#8221; ALL DAY!   :&gt;)</p>
<p>Sooo, I&#39;ll make a SUNDAY post on this thread, O.K?</p>
<p><b>SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2009,   -DAY 12-  Of His FIRST 100 DAYS!</b>    :&gt;)</p>
<p>1.  <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18247.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Obama rocks the Alfalfa Club</b></a></p>
<p><i>How big is Barack Obama right now?</p>
<p>Even the well-heeled, well-tailored and well-connected members of the Alfalfa Club all but tripped over their patent leather shoes and floor-length gowns to get a moment Saturday night with the man who happens to be both the new president and world’s most buzzed-about living figure.</p>
<p>Now in its 96th year, the 200-member club has one mission: to put on a black tie dinner in Washington on the last Saturday in January where some of the most powerful figures in politics and commerce can mingle and jocularly nominate one of their own to run for President of the United States—all out of the prying eyes of the press, who are forced to rely on second-hand accounts from those in the room.</p>
<p>Three of the faux nominees have actually gone on to win the real thing, which goes a long way toward indicating what sort of club this is. Think ambassadors, Supreme Court justices, media magnates, the Bush family and Henry Kissinger. To put it in Obama—er Lincoln—terms, it’s a soiree of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. Star-struck they’re not.</i></p>
<p><b>[NOTE:  NOW, to the part which can B entitled - - - -NO He Di &#39;int!  :&gt;)]</b></p>
<p><i>But Obama spread the wealth, so to speak, taking care to gently tweak himself.</p>
<p>Perhaps suggesting that his frequent invocations of Lincoln were justified, the second Illinoisan to become president noted of the first: “He never drew crowds like that.”</p>
<p>SKIP</p>
<p>To Vernon Jordan, the power lawyer who won this year’s honor as Alfafa&#39;s presidential nominee, Obama observed: “Just because a guy can give great speeches doesn’t mean he’s going to be a great president.”</p>
<p>Of course this being a political crowd in a political town after the ultimate political year, Obama got in a few campaign yuks.</p>
<p><b>Looking<u> to Joe Lieberman,</u> the Democrat-turned-independent-turned McCain supporter, Obama told the Connecticut senator he had no hard feelings.</p>
<p>The door is always open, Obama assured Lieberman, who observes the Sabbath, <u>so feel to drop by—any Saturday afternoon.</u></p>
<p><u>To Palin,</u> Obama expressed surprise to see her with such members of the Washington elite she railed against during the campaign. Or, as he termed it in language Palin is familiar with,<u> “palling around with this crew.”</u></b></i></p>
<p><b>[NOTE:  HAH!!!   GOTCHA!!!  Mild - - Saaa-lap!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)   LOVED IT!!]</b></p>
<p><i>An era of New Politics or not, the Alfalfas are still influential enough to command a visit from the president, his first banquet duty since taking office, and subject him to watching the club’s clubby rituals and Friar’s club-style humor.</p>
<p>Thankfully for Obama, much of it came at the expense of that club that really has fallen on hard times: the Republicans.</i></p>
<p>THERE IS MORE.</p>
<p> 2. <a href="http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/01/obama-rooting-for-steelers-in-001565.php" rel="nofollow">Obama rooting for Steelers in Super Bowl</a></p>
<p><i>President Barack Obama has violated the ancient political rule of noninvolvement in sports disputes among competing constituents. He&#39;s taken sides in the Super Bowl.</p>
<p>The president said he is rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, although he took pains to applaud the Cinderella story of the Arizona Cardinals.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wish the Cardinals the best,&#8221; Obama said in a media availability at the White House on Friday, but he described himself as &#8220;a longtime Steelers fan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama said Steelers owner Dan Rooney, a longtime Republican, had supported his campaign, as had former Steelers star Franco Harris, who campaigned with the candidate in Pittsburgh.</p>
<p>&#8220;Other than the Bears,&#8221; Obama said, &#8220;the Steelers are probably the team that&#39;s closest to my heart.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the White House announced that Obama will hold a Super Bowl party on Sunday, inviting several members of Congress, including Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL) and Del. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (D-DC) of the Congressional Black Caucus.</i><br />WATCH VIDEO:</p>
<p>THAT&#39;S ALL FOR NOW!</p>
<p><b>HAVE A GREAT &#8220;SUPERBOWL DAY!&#8221;    :&gt;)</b></p>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree w/ your concerns about food and food additives. These Italian cities aren&#039;t talking about that. They are banning Kebabs made of Italian lamb. Chinese Beef stir fry from italian (euro) beef. Salsa from tomatoes orginally found in Peru years ago but grown in Europe/Italy. it is because it isn&#039;t Italian in orgin. Considering Italians didn&#039;t consider themselves that till the late 1800&#039;s I guess you shouldn&#039;t eat Pasta Bolognese if your in Rome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree w/ your concerns about food and food additives. These Italian cities aren&#39;t talking about that. They are banning Kebabs made of Italian lamb. Chinese Beef stir fry from italian (euro) beef. Salsa from tomatoes orginally found in Peru years ago but grown in Europe/Italy. it is because it isn&#39;t Italian in orgin. Considering Italians didn&#39;t consider themselves that till the late 1800&#39;s I guess you shouldn&#39;t eat Pasta Bolognese if your in Rome.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be something.    My inspiration came from a recent article in the San Jose Mercury.   It was about a local 81 yr old woman who runs marathons for her age group and she started at 61!!   I love it.    I&#039;m up to 2 1/2 mi now.  My goal is to be able to eventually do half marathons.    That will take awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be something.    My inspiration came from a recent article in the San Jose Mercury.   It was about a local 81 yr old woman who runs marathons for her age group and she started at 61!!   I love it.    I&#39;m up to 2 1/2 mi now.  My goal is to be able to eventually do half marathons.    That will take awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Micheline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Duke loses it over Michael Steele.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/david_duke_loses_it_over_michael_steele_at_rnc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Duke loses it over Michael Steele.</p>
<p><a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/david_duke_loses_it_over_michael_steele_at_rnc/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav.." rel="nofollow">http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah:  Weeelllllll - -One of us is up waaaaay early this morning!     :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gotta  &quot;bounce and pray&quot; ALL DAY!   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sooo, I&#039;ll make a SUNDAY post on this thread, O.K?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2009,   -DAY 12-  Of His FIRST 100 DAYS!&lt;/b&gt;    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18247.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Obama rocks the Alfalfa Club&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;How big is Barack Obama right now?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even the well-heeled, well-tailored and well-connected members of the Alfalfa Club all but tripped over their patent leather shoes and floor-length gowns to get a moment Saturday night with the man who happens to be both the new president and world’s most buzzed-about living figure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now in its 96th year, the 200-member club has one mission: to put on a black tie dinner in Washington on the last Saturday in January where some of the most powerful figures in politics and commerce can mingle and jocularly nominate one of their own to run for President of the United States—all out of the prying eyes of the press, who are forced to rely on second-hand accounts from those in the room.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Three of the faux nominees have actually gone on to win the real thing, which goes a long way toward indicating what sort of club this is. Think ambassadors, Supreme Court justices, media magnates, the Bush family and Henry Kissinger. To put it in Obama—er Lincoln—terms, it’s a soiree of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. Star-struck they’re not.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;[NOTE:  NOW, to the part which can B entitled - - - -NO He Di &#039;int!  :&gt;)]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;But Obama spread the wealth, so to speak, taking care to gently tweak himself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps suggesting that his frequent invocations of Lincoln were justified, the second Illinoisan to become president noted of the first: “He never drew crowds like that.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SKIP&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To Vernon Jordan, the power lawyer who won this year’s honor as Alfafa&#039;s presidential nominee, Obama observed: “Just because a guy can give great speeches doesn’t mean he’s going to be a great president.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course this being a political crowd in a political town after the ultimate political year, Obama got in a few campaign yuks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Looking&lt;u&gt; to Joe Lieberman,&lt;/u&gt; the Democrat-turned-independent-turned McCain supporter, Obama told the Connecticut senator he had no hard feelings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The door is always open, Obama assured Lieberman, who observes the Sabbath, &lt;u&gt;so feel to drop by—any Saturday afternoon.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;To Palin,&lt;/u&gt; Obama expressed surprise to see her with such members of the Washington elite she railed against during the campaign. Or, as he termed it in language Palin is familiar with,&lt;u&gt; “palling around with this crew.”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;[NOTE:  HAH!!!   GOTCHA!!!  Mild - - Saaa-lap!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)   LOVED IT!!]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;An era of New Politics or not, the Alfalfas are still influential enough to command a visit from the president, his first banquet duty since taking office, and subject him to watching the club’s clubby rituals and Friar’s club-style humor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thankfully for Obama, much of it came at the expense of that club that really has fallen on hard times: the Republicans.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THERE IS MORE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; 2. &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/01/obama-rooting-for-steelers-in-001565.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama rooting for Steelers in Super Bowl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;President Barack Obama has violated the ancient political rule of noninvolvement in sports disputes among competing constituents. He&#039;s taken sides in the Super Bowl.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The president said he is rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, although he took pains to applaud the Cinderella story of the Arizona Cardinals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I wish the Cardinals the best,&quot; Obama said in a media availability at the White House on Friday, but he described himself as &quot;a longtime Steelers fan.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama said Steelers owner Dan Rooney, a longtime Republican, had supported his campaign, as had former Steelers star Franco Harris, who campaigned with the candidate in Pittsburgh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Other than the Bears,&quot; Obama said, &quot;the Steelers are probably the team that&#039;s closest to my heart.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile, the White House announced that Obama will hold a Super Bowl party on Sunday, inviting several members of Congress, including Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL) and Del. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (D-DC) of the Congressional Black Caucus.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;WATCH VIDEO:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THAT&#039;S ALL FOR NOW!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;HAVE A GREAT &quot;SUPERBOWL DAY!&quot;    :&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah:  Weeelllllll &#8211; -One of us is up waaaaay early this morning!     :&gt;)</p>
<p>Gotta  &#8220;bounce and pray&#8221; ALL DAY!   :&gt;)</p>
<p>Sooo, I&#39;ll make a SUNDAY post on this thread, O.K?</p>
<p><b>SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2009,   -DAY 12-  Of His FIRST 100 DAYS!</b>    :&gt;)</p>
<p>1.  <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18247.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Obama rocks the Alfalfa Club</b></a></p>
<p><i>How big is Barack Obama right now?</p>
<p>Even the well-heeled, well-tailored and well-connected members of the Alfalfa Club all but tripped over their patent leather shoes and floor-length gowns to get a moment Saturday night with the man who happens to be both the new president and world’s most buzzed-about living figure.</p>
<p>Now in its 96th year, the 200-member club has one mission: to put on a black tie dinner in Washington on the last Saturday in January where some of the most powerful figures in politics and commerce can mingle and jocularly nominate one of their own to run for President of the United States—all out of the prying eyes of the press, who are forced to rely on second-hand accounts from those in the room.</p>
<p>Three of the faux nominees have actually gone on to win the real thing, which goes a long way toward indicating what sort of club this is. Think ambassadors, Supreme Court justices, media magnates, the Bush family and Henry Kissinger. To put it in Obama—er Lincoln—terms, it’s a soiree of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. Star-struck they’re not.</i></p>
<p><b>[NOTE:  NOW, to the part which can B entitled - - - -NO He Di &#39;int!  :&gt;)]</b></p>
<p><i>But Obama spread the wealth, so to speak, taking care to gently tweak himself.</p>
<p>Perhaps suggesting that his frequent invocations of Lincoln were justified, the second Illinoisan to become president noted of the first: “He never drew crowds like that.”</p>
<p>SKIP</p>
<p>To Vernon Jordan, the power lawyer who won this year’s honor as Alfafa&#39;s presidential nominee, Obama observed: “Just because a guy can give great speeches doesn’t mean he’s going to be a great president.”</p>
<p>Of course this being a political crowd in a political town after the ultimate political year, Obama got in a few campaign yuks.</p>
<p><b>Looking<u> to Joe Lieberman,</u> the Democrat-turned-independent-turned McCain supporter, Obama told the Connecticut senator he had no hard feelings.</p>
<p>The door is always open, Obama assured Lieberman, who observes the Sabbath, <u>so feel to drop by—any Saturday afternoon.</u></p>
<p><u>To Palin,</u> Obama expressed surprise to see her with such members of the Washington elite she railed against during the campaign. Or, as he termed it in language Palin is familiar with,<u> “palling around with this crew.”</u></b></i></p>
<p><b>[NOTE:  HAH!!!   GOTCHA!!!  Mild - - Saaa-lap!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)   LOVED IT!!]</b></p>
<p><i>An era of New Politics or not, the Alfalfas are still influential enough to command a visit from the president, his first banquet duty since taking office, and subject him to watching the club’s clubby rituals and Friar’s club-style humor.</p>
<p>Thankfully for Obama, much of it came at the expense of that club that really has fallen on hard times: the Republicans.</i></p>
<p>THERE IS MORE.</p>
<p> 2. <a href="http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/01/obama-rooting-for-steelers-in-001565.php" rel="nofollow">Obama rooting for Steelers in Super Bowl</a></p>
<p><i>President Barack Obama has violated the ancient political rule of noninvolvement in sports disputes among competing constituents. He&#39;s taken sides in the Super Bowl.</p>
<p>The president said he is rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, although he took pains to applaud the Cinderella story of the Arizona Cardinals.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wish the Cardinals the best,&#8221; Obama said in a media availability at the White House on Friday, but he described himself as &#8220;a longtime Steelers fan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama said Steelers owner Dan Rooney, a longtime Republican, had supported his campaign, as had former Steelers star Franco Harris, who campaigned with the candidate in Pittsburgh.</p>
<p>&#8220;Other than the Bears,&#8221; Obama said, &#8220;the Steelers are probably the team that&#39;s closest to my heart.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the White House announced that Obama will hold a Super Bowl party on Sunday, inviting several members of Congress, including Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL) and Del. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (D-DC) of the Congressional Black Caucus.</i><br />WATCH VIDEO:</p>
<p>THAT&#39;S ALL FOR NOW!</p>
<p><b>HAVE A GREAT &#8220;SUPERBOWL DAY!&#8221;    :&gt;)</b></p>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree w/ your concerns about food and food additives. These Italian cities aren&#039;t talking about that. They are banning Kebabs made of Italian lamb. Chinese Beef stir fry from italian (euro) beef. Salsa from tomatoes orginally found in Peru years ago but grown in Europe/Italy. it is because it isn&#039;t Italian in orgin. Considering Italians didn&#039;t consider themselves that till the late 1800&#039;s I guess you shouldn&#039;t eat Pasta Bolognese if your in Rome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree w/ your concerns about food and food additives. These Italian cities aren&#39;t talking about that. They are banning Kebabs made of Italian lamb. Chinese Beef stir fry from italian (euro) beef. Salsa from tomatoes orginally found in Peru years ago but grown in Europe/Italy. it is because it isn&#39;t Italian in orgin. Considering Italians didn&#39;t consider themselves that till the late 1800&#39;s I guess you shouldn&#39;t eat Pasta Bolognese if your in Rome.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be something.    My inspiration came from a recent article in the San Jose Mercury.   It was about a local 81 yr old woman who runs marathons for her age group and she started at 61!!   I love it.    I&#039;m up to 2 1/2 mi now.  My goal is to be able to eventually do half marathons.    That will take awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be something.    My inspiration came from a recent article in the San Jose Mercury.   It was about a local 81 yr old woman who runs marathons for her age group and she started at 61!!   I love it.    I&#39;m up to 2 1/2 mi now.  My goal is to be able to eventually do half marathons.    That will take awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Micheline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Duke loses it over Michael Steele.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/david_duke_loses_it_over_michael_steele_at_rnc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Duke loses it over Michael Steele.</p>
<p><a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/david_duke_loses_it_over_michael_steele_at_rnc/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav.." rel="nofollow">http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/dav..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah:  Weeelllllll - -One of us is up waaaaay early this morning!     :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gotta  &quot;bounce and pray&quot; ALL DAY!   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sooo, I&#039;ll make a SUNDAY post on this thread, O.K?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2009,   -DAY 12-  Of His FIRST 100 DAYS!&lt;/b&gt;    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18247.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Obama rocks the Alfalfa Club&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;How big is Barack Obama right now?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even the well-heeled, well-tailored and well-connected members of the Alfalfa Club all but tripped over their patent leather shoes and floor-length gowns to get a moment Saturday night with the man who happens to be both the new president and world’s most buzzed-about living figure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now in its 96th year, the 200-member club has one mission: to put on a black tie dinner in Washington on the last Saturday in January where some of the most powerful figures in politics and commerce can mingle and jocularly nominate one of their own to run for President of the United States—all out of the prying eyes of the press, who are forced to rely on second-hand accounts from those in the room.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Three of the faux nominees have actually gone on to win the real thing, which goes a long way toward indicating what sort of club this is. Think ambassadors, Supreme Court justices, media magnates, the Bush family and Henry Kissinger. To put it in Obama—er Lincoln—terms, it’s a soiree of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. Star-struck they’re not.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;[NOTE:  NOW, to the part which can B entitled - - - -NO He Di &#039;int!  :&gt;)]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;But Obama spread the wealth, so to speak, taking care to gently tweak himself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps suggesting that his frequent invocations of Lincoln were justified, the second Illinoisan to become president noted of the first: “He never drew crowds like that.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SKIP&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To Vernon Jordan, the power lawyer who won this year’s honor as Alfafa&#039;s presidential nominee, Obama observed: “Just because a guy can give great speeches doesn’t mean he’s going to be a great president.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course this being a political crowd in a political town after the ultimate political year, Obama got in a few campaign yuks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Looking&lt;u&gt; to Joe Lieberman,&lt;/u&gt; the Democrat-turned-independent-turned McCain supporter, Obama told the Connecticut senator he had no hard feelings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The door is always open, Obama assured Lieberman, who observes the Sabbath, &lt;u&gt;so feel to drop by—any Saturday afternoon.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;To Palin,&lt;/u&gt; Obama expressed surprise to see her with such members of the Washington elite she railed against during the campaign. Or, as he termed it in language Palin is familiar with,&lt;u&gt; “palling around with this crew.”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;[NOTE:  HAH!!!   GOTCHA!!!  Mild - - Saaa-lap!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)   LOVED IT!!]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;An era of New Politics or not, the Alfalfas are still influential enough to command a visit from the president, his first banquet duty since taking office, and subject him to watching the club’s clubby rituals and Friar’s club-style humor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thankfully for Obama, much of it came at the expense of that club that really has fallen on hard times: the Republicans.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THERE IS MORE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/01/obama-rooting-for-steelers-in-001565.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama rooting for Steelers in Super Bowl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;President Barack Obama has violated the ancient political rule of noninvolvement in sports disputes among competing constituents. He&#039;s taken sides in the Super Bowl.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The president said he is rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, although he took pains to applaud the Cinderella story of the Arizona Cardinals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I wish the Cardinals the best,&quot; Obama said in a media availability at the White House on Friday, but he described himself as &quot;a longtime Steelers fan.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama said Steelers owner Dan Rooney, a longtime Republican, had supported his campaign, as had former Steelers star Franco Harris, who campaigned with the candidate in Pittsburgh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Other than the Bears,&quot; Obama said, &quot;the Steelers are probably the team that&#039;s closest to my heart.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile, the White House announced that Obama will hold a Super Bowl party on Sunday, inviting several members of Congress, including Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL) and Del. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (D-DC) of the Congressional Black Caucus.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;WATCH VIDEO:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THAT&#039;S ALL FOR NOW!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;HAVE A GREAT &quot;SUPERBOWL DAY!&quot;    :&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah:  Weeelllllll &#8211; -One of us is up waaaaay early this morning!     :&gt;)</p>
<p>Gotta  &#8220;bounce and pray&#8221; ALL DAY!   :&gt;)</p>
<p>Sooo, I&#39;ll make a SUNDAY post on this thread, O.K?</p>
<p><b>SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2009,   -DAY 12-  Of His FIRST 100 DAYS!</b>    :&gt;)</p>
<p>1.  <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18247.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Obama rocks the Alfalfa Club</b></a></p>
<p><i>How big is Barack Obama right now?</p>
<p>Even the well-heeled, well-tailored and well-connected members of the Alfalfa Club all but tripped over their patent leather shoes and floor-length gowns to get a moment Saturday night with the man who happens to be both the new president and world’s most buzzed-about living figure.</p>
<p>Now in its 96th year, the 200-member club has one mission: to put on a black tie dinner in Washington on the last Saturday in January where some of the most powerful figures in politics and commerce can mingle and jocularly nominate one of their own to run for President of the United States—all out of the prying eyes of the press, who are forced to rely on second-hand accounts from those in the room.</p>
<p>Three of the faux nominees have actually gone on to win the real thing, which goes a long way toward indicating what sort of club this is. Think ambassadors, Supreme Court justices, media magnates, the Bush family and Henry Kissinger. To put it in Obama—er Lincoln—terms, it’s a soiree of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. Star-struck they’re not.</i></p>
<p><b>[NOTE:  NOW, to the part which can B entitled - - - -NO He Di &#39;int!  :&gt;)]</b></p>
<p><i>But Obama spread the wealth, so to speak, taking care to gently tweak himself.</p>
<p>Perhaps suggesting that his frequent invocations of Lincoln were justified, the second Illinoisan to become president noted of the first: “He never drew crowds like that.”</p>
<p>SKIP</p>
<p>To Vernon Jordan, the power lawyer who won this year’s honor as Alfafa&#39;s presidential nominee, Obama observed: “Just because a guy can give great speeches doesn’t mean he’s going to be a great president.”</p>
<p>Of course this being a political crowd in a political town after the ultimate political year, Obama got in a few campaign yuks.</p>
<p><b>Looking<u> to Joe Lieberman,</u> the Democrat-turned-independent-turned McCain supporter, Obama told the Connecticut senator he had no hard feelings.</p>
<p>The door is always open, Obama assured Lieberman, who observes the Sabbath, <u>so feel to drop by—any Saturday afternoon.</u></p>
<p><u>To Palin,</u> Obama expressed surprise to see her with such members of the Washington elite she railed against during the campaign. Or, as he termed it in language Palin is familiar with,<u> “palling around with this crew.”</u></b></i></p>
<p><b>[NOTE:  HAH!!!   GOTCHA!!!  Mild - - Saaa-lap!    :&gt;)      :&gt;)   LOVED IT!!]</b></p>
<p><i>An era of New Politics or not, the Alfalfas are still influential enough to command a visit from the president, his first banquet duty since taking office, and subject him to watching the club’s clubby rituals and Friar’s club-style humor.</p>
<p>Thankfully for Obama, much of it came at the expense of that club that really has fallen on hard times: the Republicans.</i></p>
<p>THERE IS MORE.</p>
<p>2.  <a href="http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2009/01/obama-rooting-for-steelers-in-001565.php" rel="nofollow"><br />Obama rooting for Steelers in Super Bowl</a></p>
<p><i>President Barack Obama has violated the ancient political rule of noninvolvement in sports disputes among competing constituents. He&#39;s taken sides in the Super Bowl.</p>
<p>The president said he is rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, although he took pains to applaud the Cinderella story of the Arizona Cardinals.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wish the Cardinals the best,&#8221; Obama said in a media availability at the White House on Friday, but he described himself as &#8220;a longtime Steelers fan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama said Steelers owner Dan Rooney, a longtime Republican, had supported his campaign, as had former Steelers star Franco Harris, who campaigned with the candidate in Pittsburgh.</p>
<p>&#8220;Other than the Bears,&#8221; Obama said, &#8220;the Steelers are probably the team that&#39;s closest to my heart.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the White House announced that Obama will hold a Super Bowl party on Sunday, inviting several members of Congress, including Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL) and Del. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (D-DC) of the Congressional Black Caucus.</i><br />WATCH VIDEO:</p>
<p>THAT&#39;S ALL FOR NOW!</p>
<p><b>HAVE A GREAT &#8220;SUPERBOWL DAY!&#8221;    :&gt;)</b></p>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree w/ your concerns about food and food additives. These Italian cities aren&#039;t talking about that. They are banning Kebabs made of Italian lamb. Chinese Beef stir fry from italian (euro) beef. Salsa from tomatoes orginally found in Peru years ago but grown in Europe/Italy. it is because it isn&#039;t Italian in orgin. Considering Italians didn&#039;t consider themselves that till the late 1800&#039;s I guess you shouldn&#039;t eat Pasta Bolognese if your in Rome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree w/ your concerns about food and food additives. These Italian cities aren&#39;t talking about that. They are banning Kebabs made of Italian lamb. Chinese Beef stir fry from italian (euro) beef. Salsa from tomatoes orginally found in Peru years ago but grown in Europe/Italy. it is because it isn&#39;t Italian in orgin. Considering Italians didn&#39;t consider themselves that till the late 1800&#39;s I guess you shouldn&#39;t eat Pasta Bolognese if your in Rome.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heartsandflowers:  ABSOLUTELY!   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Guuurrrlll, his &quot;family tree&quot; got BRANCHES&quot; that we will neva see---bearing MUCH FRUIT!!     :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;YES! THE SAD &amp; BAD part of this situation is that he did NOT take CARE of his children!   He was USELESS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heartsandflowers:  ABSOLUTELY!   </p>
<p>Guuurrrlll, his &#8220;family tree&#8221; got BRANCHES&#8221; that we will neva see&#8212;bearing MUCH FRUIT!!     :&gt;)</p>
<p>YES! THE SAD &#038; BAD part of this situation is that he did NOT take CARE of his children!   He was USELESS!!</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen</description>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the guys who works out regularly is my hero. He&#039;s 68, runs 5 miles a day. He didn&#039;t begin running until he was 55. So, you will be an inspiration to someone else - I guarantee it.</description>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama Sr. had multiple kids with multiple women and didn&#039;t take care of ANY of them. For all his education, he was a fool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama Sr. had multiple kids with multiple women and didn&#39;t take care of ANY of them. For all his education, he was a fool!</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And she&#039;s earned $22M+ in 14 years. And they&#039;re no even 30 yet. They&#039;ve still got a few years left. They&#039;re attractive, intelligent, gifted, disciplined amazing Black women and they should be lauded for their hard work, charity and positive image. It&#039;s becoming increasingly rare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And she&#39;s earned $22M+ in 14 years. And they&#39;re no even 30 yet. They&#39;ve still got a few years left. They&#39;re attractive, intelligent, gifted, disciplined amazing Black women and they should be lauded for their hard work, charity and positive image. It&#39;s becoming increasingly rare.</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know my brother and I were discussing this 2 days ago - he&#039;s mad because the credit market has dried up and mumbling about being &quot;punished&quot; because of bad credit people and longing for the &quot;old&quot; days of deregulation and I wanted to smack him of course. I mentioned the $20M bonuses and he says if there was no gov&#039;t oversight and they can do it legally why blame them for the loopholes. Well... that&#039;s a conversation about lobbyists and white supremacy and protectionism for certain class structures, but no one will ever convince me this was because of $200M in bad loans for mortgages. That could&#039;ve been easily paid for and bought up and problem solved. That&#039;s just a smokescreen for the bigger robbery. I believe there&#039;s more that we don&#039;t know about. They&#039;ve cooked the books and should go the way of Arthur Anderson and Enron imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know my brother and I were discussing this 2 days ago &#8211; he&#39;s mad because the credit market has dried up and mumbling about being &#8220;punished&#8221; because of bad credit people and longing for the &#8220;old&#8221; days of deregulation and I wanted to smack him of course. I mentioned the $20M bonuses and he says if there was no gov&#39;t oversight and they can do it legally why blame them for the loopholes. Well&#8230; that&#39;s a conversation about lobbyists and white supremacy and protectionism for certain class structures, but no one will ever convince me this was because of $200M in bad loans for mortgages. That could&#39;ve been easily paid for and bought up and problem solved. That&#39;s just a smokescreen for the bigger robbery. I believe there&#39;s more that we don&#39;t know about. They&#39;ve cooked the books and should go the way of Arthur Anderson and Enron imo.</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well nobody really wanted the ask the Bush or Cheneys for anything (other than their cronies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well nobody really wanted the ask the Bush or Cheneys for anything (other than their cronies).</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sitting up here watching this show on the History International channel about the US right after the civil war and the battle for white supremacy in the South. It&#039;s called Aftershock: Beyond the Civil War.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All I can say is O M G. It tells the story of the beginning of the Klan who were by the way were mostly Democrats at the time. The violence against the freed Blacks got out of control after the &#039;radical Republicans&#039; in Congress (2/3 majority in both houses) ratified the 14th amendment that gave Blacks, but not ex-confederates, the right to vote. As you would imagine, this did not go over that well with the white folks. According to the program, 6 ex confederates returned to TN and had to denounce the confederacy and pledge their allegiance to the United States. They were likened to Al Qaeda.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nothing but pure evil. Now I see why so many white southerners haven&#039;t gotten over the civil war, or as they call it, the War of Northern Aggression.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I knew it was bad, I didn&#039;t know it was THAT bad. Pure evil. They need to have a deliverance service all over the South.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m sitting up here watching this show on the History International channel about the US right after the civil war and the battle for white supremacy in the South. It&#39;s called Aftershock: Beyond the Civil War.</p>
<p>All I can say is O M G. It tells the story of the beginning of the Klan who were by the way were mostly Democrats at the time. The violence against the freed Blacks got out of control after the &#39;radical Republicans&#39; in Congress (2/3 majority in both houses) ratified the 14th amendment that gave Blacks, but not ex-confederates, the right to vote. As you would imagine, this did not go over that well with the white folks. According to the program, 6 ex confederates returned to TN and had to denounce the confederacy and pledge their allegiance to the United States. They were likened to Al Qaeda.</p>
<p>Nothing but pure evil. Now I see why so many white southerners haven&#39;t gotten over the civil war, or as they call it, the War of Northern Aggression.</p>
<p>I knew it was bad, I didn&#39;t know it was THAT bad. Pure evil. They need to have a deliverance service all over the South.</p>
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