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He&#039;s never proven he could WIN - in 2 heavily Democratic years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I ask again, why would Black people vote for this man outside of the fact that he&#039;s Black? That&#039;s the ONLY thing he could offer. He can&#039;t offer any sort of resume to the Black community. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I said before, there are White candidate, who can actually point to things they&#039;ve done in the Black community. And Seals has none of that. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He&#039;s never WON anything. He  doesn&#039;t have any sort of legislative record; he doesn&#039;t have an electoral base...so, I&#039;m still trying to see how he&#039;s so &#039;electable&#039;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would they give the appointment to someone who had to &#39;work his butt off to reach out to the Black community&#39;?, when there ARE Black folk- qualified- with ties to the Black community &#8211; as an already built in BASE, who can work outward.</p><p>What exactly is Dan Seals&#39; base?</p><p>He doesn&#39;t have an electoral base &#8211; he&#39;s never won anything. He&#39;s never proven he could WIN &#8211; in 2 heavily Democratic years.</p><p>I ask again, why would Black people vote for this man outside of the fact that he&#39;s Black? That&#39;s the ONLY thing he could offer. He can&#39;t offer any sort of resume to the Black community.</p><p>As I said before, there are White candidate, who can actually point to things they&#39;ve done in the Black community. And Seals has none of that.</p><p>He&#39;s never WON anything. He  doesn&#39;t have any sort of legislative record; he doesn&#39;t have an electoral base&#8230;so, I&#39;m still trying to see how he&#39;s so &#39;electable&#39;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micheline</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332275</link> <dc:creator>Micheline </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:53:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332275</guid> <description>Fair enough. I live in South Florida  so I am not familiar with Illinois politics. May be , and  that is a big may be, the problem is that there are no black politicians at the moment that have ties with the black community (via black organizations, chuches, etc) and broad appeal (i.e. downstate).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. I live in South Florida  so I am not familiar with Illinois politics. May be , and  that is a big may be, the problem is that there are no black politicians at the moment that have ties with the black community (via black organizations, chuches, etc) and broad appeal (i.e. downstate).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micheline</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332269</link> <dc:creator>Micheline </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:49:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332269</guid> <description>Trivial matter?  Burris stated in his affidavit that he had no contacts with any representatives of Blago but then says the opposite in his testimony. This is not a minor detail in describing when and where he had contact with Blago&#039;s representatives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the definition of returns,  Akil Amar Reed and Josh Chafetz describe it as :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Following English parliamentary tradition and early Colonial and state practice, the framers made the Senate its own gatekeeper and guardian. Each house of Congress is &quot;the Judge of the Elections, Returns, and Qualifications of its own members,&quot; according to Article 1, Section 5 of the Constitution. At the founding, Senators were elected by state legislatures. If the Senate believed that legislators in a given state had been bribed into voting for a particular candidate, the Senate could refuse to seat him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because of the word &quot;returns&quot; in Section 5, what is true of elected Senators is equally true of appointed Senators. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a &quot;Return&quot; in the time of the framers involved a report of an appointment made by a sheriff or other official. If the Senate may refuse to seat a person picked in a corrupt election, it likewise may refuse to seat a person picked in a corrupt appointment process. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trivial matter?  Burris stated in his affidavit that he had no contacts with any representatives of Blago but then says the opposite in his testimony. This is not a minor detail in describing when and where he had contact with Blago&#39;s representatives.</p><p>As for the definition of returns,  Akil Amar Reed and Josh Chafetz describe it as :</p><blockquote><p>Following English parliamentary tradition and early Colonial and state practice, the framers made the Senate its own gatekeeper and guardian. Each house of Congress is &#8220;the Judge of the Elections, Returns, and Qualifications of its own members,&#8221; according to Article 1, Section 5 of the Constitution. At the founding, Senators were elected by state legislatures. If the Senate believed that legislators in a given state had been bribed into voting for a particular candidate, the Senate could refuse to seat him.</p><p>Because of the word &#8220;returns&#8221; in Section 5, what is true of elected Senators is equally true of appointed Senators. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a &#8220;Return&#8221; in the time of the framers involved a report of an appointment made by a sheriff or other official. If the Senate may refuse to seat a person picked in a corrupt election, it likewise may refuse to seat a person picked in a corrupt appointment process.</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sepia</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332270</link> <dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:23:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332270</guid> <description>Co-sign.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Co-sign.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TRW</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332273</link> <dc:creator>TRW </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:17:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332273</guid> <description>Okay, who would that person be (the person who has ties to the Blk community but also broad appeal to the rest of the state)?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And in line with your last statement, why would it not make sense for Reid--or Quinn--the person with the appt power and actual knowledge of Chi-town politicians--to appoint Seals and let Seals work his butt off for two years as Senator while also reaching out to the Black community?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t get me wrong--Seals could be the devil himself for all I know.  But so far, the biggest argument against him--and the argument for the apparent race baiting of Reid--is that Seals has no ties to the Black community.  My whole thing is, what qualifies as sufficient &quot;ties&quot; to the Blk community, and why wouldn&#039;t Seals be able to engage in more active outreach while in office?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, who would that person be (the person who has ties to the Blk community but also broad appeal to the rest of the state)?</p><p>And in line with your last statement, why would it not make sense for Reid&#8211;or Quinn&#8211;the person with the appt power and actual knowledge of Chi-town politicians&#8211;to appoint Seals and let Seals work his butt off for two years as Senator while also reaching out to the Black community?</p><p>Don&#39;t get me wrong&#8211;Seals could be the devil himself for all I know.  But so far, the biggest argument against him&#8211;and the argument for the apparent race baiting of Reid&#8211;is that Seals has no ties to the Black community.  My whole thing is, what qualifies as sufficient &#8220;ties&#8221; to the Blk community, and why wouldn&#39;t Seals be able to engage in more active outreach while in office?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micheline</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332272</link> <dc:creator>Micheline </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:01:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332272</guid> <description>I of course can&#039;t speak for Rikyrah, but I think what she is saying is that it is not enough for the person to be  black but he or she has to have  actual ties with  the black community.   If Harry Reid had an understanding of  the black community then he would not recommend Dan Seals. He should pick someone else who has ties to the black community and broad appeal.  Now I don&#039;t think Dan Seals is a bad guy. He may win over black votes if he works for it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I of course can&#39;t speak for Rikyrah, but I think what she is saying is that it is not enough for the person to be  black but he or she has to have  actual ties with  the black community.   If Harry Reid had an understanding of  the black community then he would not recommend Dan Seals. He should pick someone else who has ties to the black community and broad appeal.  Now I don&#39;t think Dan Seals is a bad guy. He may win over black votes if he works for it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332277</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:58:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332277</guid> <description>Well, I am really not making a racially based argument. I haven&#039;t sorted out where I stand in that regard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, the distinction you make about Powell being elected is not significant in terms of the court ruling. The ruling was that the Senate can only consider the qualifications as set for in the US Constitution, whether the individual is appointed or elected. The only judgment that can be made by the Senate is on the basis of the US Constitution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words, this is about the LAW, not about whether a majority of Senators AGREE., they do not want an individual in the chamber. Their decision is pre-empted by the constitutionality of the process. Is it Constitutional or not?  If it is, they have no power beyond that!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am really not making a racially based argument. I haven&#39;t sorted out where I stand in that regard.</p><p>However, the distinction you make about Powell being elected is not significant in terms of the court ruling. The ruling was that the Senate can only consider the qualifications as set for in the US Constitution, whether the individual is appointed or elected. The only judgment that can be made by the Senate is on the basis of the US Constitution.</p><p>In other words, this is about the LAW, not about whether a majority of Senators AGREE., they do not want an individual in the chamber. Their decision is pre-empted by the constitutionality of the process. Is it Constitutional or not?  If it is, they have no power beyond that!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whiterosebuddy</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332268</link> <dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:45:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332268</guid> <description>His testimony is on a trivial matter that is being trumphed up and pales in comparison to the overwhelming legality of the appointment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can take Burris&#039; word. We have no reason not to. He is not accused of anything. Blagojevich is.  That is no reason to smear Burris&#039; record, character or word.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His testimony is on a trivial matter that is being trumphed up and pales in comparison to the overwhelming legality of the appointment.</p><p>We can take Burris&#39; word. We have no reason not to. He is not accused of anything. Blagojevich is.  That is no reason to smear Burris&#39; record, character or word.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micheline</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332266</link> <dc:creator>Micheline </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:39:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332266</guid> <description>Please stop buying the media narrative that the Democrats are in disarray. This IS how  a democratic government should operate. The legislative and executive branches are co-equals.  That&#039;s how it should be. The last eight years is an anomaly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stop buying the media narrative that the Democrats are in disarray. This IS how  a democratic government should operate. The legislative and executive branches are co-equals.  That&#39;s how it should be. The last eight years is an anomaly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micheline</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332267</link> <dc:creator>Micheline </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:35:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332267</guid> <description>His testimony contradicts what was stated in his affidavit.  Also he had contacts with a person whose known as lobbyist one. Now in the end it may mean nothing but since Burris was willing to accept this appointment we cannot take his word on there being no pay to play.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His testimony contradicts what was stated in his affidavit.  Also he had contacts with a person whose known as lobbyist one. Now in the end it may mean nothing but since Burris was willing to accept this appointment we cannot take his word on there being no pay to play.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332276</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:11:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332276</guid> <description>I am of the post Civil Rights generation, yet I remained tied to the Black Community. It can be done. It takes some effort.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barack Obama didn&#039;t have &#039;NO&#039; ties to the Black community. His political foundation was in the Black community. It was a DIFFERENT path than the Civil Rights Generation, but it was developed in the Black Community.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of the post Civil Rights generation, yet I remained tied to the Black Community. It can be done. It takes some effort.</p><p>Barack Obama didn&#39;t have &#39;NO&#39; ties to the Black community. His political foundation was in the Black community. It was a DIFFERENT path than the Civil Rights Generation, but it was developed in the Black Community.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TRW</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-332271</link> <dc:creator>TRW </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:20:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-332271</guid> <description>Wait, so you&#039;re saying that putting Dan Seals into the Senate, assuming that was their (i.e. Reid and/or Durbin&#039;s) suggestion, is analogous to allowing HRC to win the Democratic nomination?  That doesn&#039;t jibe with me at all.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not from Chicago, so you obviously know more about Chi-town politics than I do, so can I just ask, what do you consider &quot;not ties to the Black community&quot;?  What should be the prototype for Black politicians that want a chance to run for statewide office?  What checklist do they need to fill to pass the smell test?  What kind of ties do White politicians need to have to the Black community to gain their vote? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basically, I just don&#039;t buy into this argument.  The way that you have framed it insinuates that Reid suggested Seals just because he apparently has no ties to the Black community, not in spite of that (and I&#039;m assuming here, since, as I noted above, I&#039;m not sure what you mean when you say &quot;no ties to the Black community&quot;).  But the converse argument can be made that Reid, and other Dem leaders in the Senate, want to groom future Senators that have an appeal to a cross-section of voters--similar to the strategy that Obama  employed after he lost to Rush in 2000.  And if that&#039;s the case, picking candidates with a broad appeal--what is wrong with that?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And can you explain the &quot;Handpicked Negro&quot; reference.  I&#039;m assuming that it has a double meaning--a) that Reid wanted to &quot;handpick&quot; the Black person he wanted for the Senate; but also b) that it is also being used as a slam and/or insult against Seals, and if that is the case, what is the beef with Seals?  seriously.   What has he done that he should be excluded from the Senate?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And going back to my original question---doesn&#039;t your &quot;no ties to the Black community&quot; argument basically cut both ways.  Isn&#039;t this the SAME argument that the old guard civil rights leaders were making against Obama--that he didn&#039;t have enough experience in the Black community and/or the civil rights movement to be President?  It seems that way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, so you&#39;re saying that putting Dan Seals into the Senate, assuming that was their (i.e. Reid and/or Durbin&#39;s) suggestion, is analogous to allowing HRC to win the Democratic nomination?  That doesn&#39;t jibe with me at all.</p><p>I&#39;m not from Chicago, so you obviously know more about Chi-town politics than I do, so can I just ask, what do you consider &#8220;not ties to the Black community&#8221;?  What should be the prototype for Black politicians that want a chance to run for statewide office?  What checklist do they need to fill to pass the smell test?  What kind of ties do White politicians need to have to the Black community to gain their vote?</p><p>Basically, I just don&#39;t buy into this argument.  The way that you have framed it insinuates that Reid suggested Seals just because he apparently has no ties to the Black community, not in spite of that (and I&#39;m assuming here, since, as I noted above, I&#39;m not sure what you mean when you say &#8220;no ties to the Black community&#8221;).  But the converse argument can be made that Reid, and other Dem leaders in the Senate, want to groom future Senators that have an appeal to a cross-section of voters&#8211;similar to the strategy that Obama  employed after he lost to Rush in 2000.  And if that&#39;s the case, picking candidates with a broad appeal&#8211;what is wrong with that?</p><p>And can you explain the &#8220;Handpicked Negro&#8221; reference.  I&#39;m assuming that it has a double meaning&#8211;a) that Reid wanted to &#8220;handpick&#8221; the Black person he wanted for the Senate; but also b) that it is also being used as a slam and/or insult against Seals, and if that is the case, what is the beef with Seals?  seriously.   What has he done that he should be excluded from the Senate?</p><p>And going back to my original question&#8212;doesn&#39;t your &#8220;no ties to the Black community&#8221; argument basically cut both ways.  Isn&#39;t this the SAME argument that the old guard civil rights leaders were making against Obama&#8211;that he didn&#39;t have enough experience in the Black community and/or the civil rights movement to be President?  It seems that way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-162722</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:18:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-162722</guid> <description>Why would they give the appointment to someone who had to &#039;work his butt off to reach out to the Black community&#039;?, when there ARE Black folk- qualified- with ties to the Black community - as an already built in BASE, who can work outward.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What exactly is Dan Seals&#039; base? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He doesn&#039;t have an electoral base - he&#039;s never won anything. He&#039;s never proven he could WIN - in 2 heavily Democratic years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I ask again, why would Black people vote for this man outside of the fact that he&#039;s Black? That&#039;s the ONLY thing he could offer. He can&#039;t offer any sort of resume to the Black community. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I said before, there are White candidate, who can actually point to things they&#039;ve done in the Black community. And Seals has none of that. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He&#039;s never WON anything. He  doesn&#039;t have any sort of legislative record; he doesn&#039;t have an electoral base...so, I&#039;m still trying to see how he&#039;s so &#039;electable&#039;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would they give the appointment to someone who had to &#39;work his butt off to reach out to the Black community&#39;?, when there ARE Black folk- qualified- with ties to the Black community &#8211; as an already built in BASE, who can work outward.</p><p>What exactly is Dan Seals&#39; base?</p><p>He doesn&#39;t have an electoral base &#8211; he&#39;s never won anything. He&#39;s never proven he could WIN &#8211; in 2 heavily Democratic years.</p><p>I ask again, why would Black people vote for this man outside of the fact that he&#39;s Black? That&#39;s the ONLY thing he could offer. He can&#39;t offer any sort of resume to the Black community.</p><p>As I said before, there are White candidate, who can actually point to things they&#39;ve done in the Black community. And Seals has none of that.</p><p>He&#39;s never WON anything. He  doesn&#39;t have any sort of legislative record; he doesn&#39;t have an electoral base&#8230;so, I&#39;m still trying to see how he&#39;s so &#39;electable&#39;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Micheline</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/latest-chapter-in-as-the-senate-seat-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-162723</link> <dc:creator>Micheline </dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:53:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=6100#comment-162723</guid> <description>Fair enough. I live in South Florida  so I am not familiar with Illinois politics. May be , and  that is a big may be, the problem is that there are no black politicians at the moment that have ties with the black community (via black organizations, chuches, etc) and broad appeal (i.e. downstate).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. I live in South Florida  so I am not familiar with Illinois politics. May be , and  that is a big may be, the problem is that there are no black politicians at the moment that have ties with the black community (via black organizations, chuches, etc) and broad appeal (i.e. downstate).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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