Comments on: Gwen Ifill on New vs Old Black Leadership in WSJ

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By: scorpiobleue

scorpiobleue — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:04:20 +0000

Re: I have respect for my elders even when I disagree with them, I cannot say that for many others.

I'm like you in that respect. I was born in '83. I sometimes look at kids my younger sisters age and just marvel at some of the stuff that they come up with. On one hand I understand where Mr. Whitney is coming from with the generational divide, but i think he forgot an important thing, when you were marching and mobilizing for change you were young! Martin Luther King Jr., Medgar Evers, Jesse Jackson were all young guys. Being young has nothing to do with it.

By: scorpiobleue

scorpiobleue — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:04:20 +0000

Re: I have respect for my elders even when I disagree with them, I cannot say that for many others.

By: scorpiobleue

scorpiobleue — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:04:20 +0000

Re: I have respect for my elders even when I disagree with them, I cannot say that for many others.

By: j_clarence

j_clarence — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:52:24 +0000

I think Ifill is absolutely correct the different perspective age, and I would argue class and education level too, have on how you interact with the world is profound. It might be the naivety of my age, but I never thought a Black President would be that much of a impossibility like much of my family members that were older. Surely more difficult and not without its “WTF moments”; however, a possibility–after all it was 1968 last year.

In any event I cannot wait to read the book.

By: tracey

tracey — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:41:19 +0000

My husband pre-ordered Gwen's book for me and I can't wait for it to come!!!! Thanks for a preview….

By: Myth

Myth — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:44:58 +0000

Do you have a link that shows where she will be while in DC?

By: Tammie

Tammie — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:37:24 +0000

She'll be in DC the entire week, for the Inauguration and to promote here book.

By: Sepia

Sepia — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:12:20 +0000

I don't know why the older generation doesn't think us “youngins” know about racism. We may have never met Jim Crow, but we damn sure know his grandson, James Crow III.

By: Booky

Booky — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:49:45 +0000

The more things change the more they remain the same.

http://www.leftinalabama.com/showDiary.do?diary...

The Old South Goes to Washington

http://www.leftinalabama.com/showDiary.do?diary...

Giving Barack Obama the Middle Finger

http://www.leftinalabama.com/showDiary.do?diary...

Racism on Parade

http://www.leftinalabama.com/showDiary.do?diary...

By: Miranda

Miranda — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:37:23 +0000

Wow…I never thought of it like that….great post….”we cant perpetually be indebted to them until they feel the time is ready”………that is a sermon in a sentence right there.

By: Rhondacoca

Rhondacoca — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:20:52 +0000

Great post! I also would like to add that many people in my generation (I was only born in 1986) are extremely ignorant when it comes to certain dynamics. They have little to no respect for those who have fought on their behalf and they have little to no knowledge of what still needs to be solved.

I have respect for my elders even when I disagree with them, I cannot say that for many others.

By: Rhondacoca

Rhondacoca — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:17:03 +0000

I would like people to be careful in putting Al Sharpton in what they call the “Old Guard” I have had the chance to meet with him and ask him questions that concerned me. He is a civil rights leader not a politican (even though he muddied those lines a little with his attempted run for presidential office). He was born in 1954 and he is from up north (NYC) not down-south. He told me and few others that he never had to deal with segregation.

Also, many of these young politicans and thinkers do themselves an injustice when they choose to downplay or overlook race and racial politics. To me, it is more about opportunism and winning favor with the powers that be with some of them. In my opinion, it is not anymore effective than being left behind in one's ideology.

By: rikyrah

rikyrah — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:46:54 +0000

AFTERNOON THREAD IS UP

By: Myth

Myth — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:46:45 +0000

Will Gwen Ifill be in DC over the weekend or next week promoting her new book?

By: ybpguide

ybpguide — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:40:26 +0000

Agreed. Reminds me of an old quote:

Your kids don't owe you for providing for them. That is what you're supposed to do.

By: Lilytiger

Lilytiger — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:27:06 +0000

That is a pretty powerful and thoughtful post. I believe this is also what is the subtext to the puma and feminists who are fifty and over. They feel they are not given their due and Hillary was their reward. They need to reconcile the present to their struggles just as the the older leaders here.

Youth has a way of just pushing on, and I think once they let go of what they (older) feel they need to receive they will let go of their angst.

In the end, it is a good thing. We don't remember pain acutely just so that we don't stop pushing forward.

Tuesday is really a celebration for us all.

By: BTx

BTx — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:14:46 +0000

Think you missed a nuance there. There appear to me to be three separate groups - those from the 30' and 40's, those born in the 50's and 60's - and came up through the Integration battles...

And those born after 1970.

Insofar as the "Old Guard"...

They have already been displaced by the Obamas, Bookers, and Fentys (among others).

The real deal here (at least to my perspective), is that the Obama election is Kryptonite to a whole generation of racial politics - not only in the nullification of the Old Guard left in terms of Mssrs Sharpton, Jackson et al...

But in the functional castration of the black conservative apologists, whose entire existence is based on salving the conscience of the racialist white right.

Interesting article about the white, rural South's disconnect with Obama -

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/16/polit...

Being a person with some rural roots, I can certainly sympathize with some of their fears...

However where were these guys in 2000 when the white people's party stole the election though electoral Jim Crow, and install the (hopefully) soon to be gone POS?

I mean - nobody gave a shit in the media about my black ass being "concerned".