Jack & Jill Politics

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Don't miss these pix of the inauguration rehearsal. The Barack & Michelle stand-ins are really sweet.

Re Lincoln: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articl...

Hey, am I the last dude in the country to realize MLK day is on Jan 19th, the day b/f Obama is inaugurated? Should I start taking MLK's lines, like when he says he's seen the promised land, literally. Because its really beginning to feel like he's up there pulling stings like a puppet master or something.

You can't make this stuff up.

No you aren't the only one Manju. It hit me as soon as I read your post! It's such a sobering thought of Obama's historical election and Dr. King's holiday being celebrated.

Sorta..could be..one of the last.
During the primaries...the fact that it was MLK day was made note of..especially in regard to the historical significance.

This is pre-ordained...too many coincidences to be otherwise

rikyrah: Whew! I missed A LOT 2-day! :>) I HOPE that this is NOT a duplicate. :>)

This comes under the HEADING - - IFFF you had any DOUBTS: :>) :>)

Economy Made Few Gains in Bush Years
[Eight-Year Period Is Weakest in Decades]

President Bush has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades, according to an analysis of key data, and economists across the ideological spectrum increasingly view his two terms as a time of little progress on the nation's thorniest fiscal challenges.

The number of jobs in the nation increased by about 2 percent during Bush's tenure, the most tepid growth over any eight-year span since data collection began seven decades ago. Gross domestic product, a broad measure of economic output, grew at the slowest pace for a period of that length since the Truman administration. And Americans' incomes grew more slowly than in any presidency since the 1960s, other than that of Bush's father.

Bush and his aides are quick to point out that they oversaw 52 straight months of job growth in the middle of this decade, and that the economy expanded at a steady clip from 2003 to 2007. But economists, including some former advisers to Bush, say it increasingly looks as if the nation's economic expansion was driven to a large degree by the interrelated booms in the housing market, consumer spending and financial markets. Those booms, which the Bush administration encouraged with the idea of an "ownership society," have proved unsustainable.

"For a group that claims it wants to be judged by history, there is no evidence on the economic policy front that that was the view," Holtz-Eakin said. "It was all Band-Aids."

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The administration also failed to gain traction on some of the fundamental economic and fiscal issues facing the nation -- including solidifying the finances of Medicare and Social Security, simplifying the tax code, or making health care more affordable. Resolution of those issues might have left the government more flexibility to respond to the current crisis by lowering the nation's future budget deficits.

THERE IS MORE. [BAD NEWS!]

As I said; Is anyone surprised??? I THINK NOT!! ***shakin' my head*** **sigh**

rikyrah: He still took time to get his EXERCISE for the DAY! :>)

HIS SCHEDULE: Sunday Jan. 11, 2009

All Times Eastern8:00 AM
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President-elect Barack Obama's interview on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" airs.
Read full transcript.

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Obama arrives at the Marie H. Reed Community Learning Center to play basketball.
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Obama finishes his game and heads back to his hotel.
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Obama arrives back at the Hay-Adams hotel.
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Way ta go!! Mr. President-Elect Obama!! :>) :>)

Madoff scammed his own sister.

His own sister.

She's broke.

Damn...

Whole family except sons and wife. The Jewish community is privately fuming at this goniff while fearing a backlash of antisemitism. The damage done to the Jewish philanthropthy is still uncalculable. Personal money of machers was pledged to charities to be held by Madeoff while alive and to be given upon death w/ funds likely pledged every year. You calculate out the growth of that money at madeoffs fixed rate and the charity gave what they were holding for the future to him to double down. Now their projections and budgets are for trash.

PS it's 11am. I hadn't hit send and Larry udlow comes on CNBC and says Madeoff should be sent to Guantanomo and waterboarded.

rikyrah: GREED & EVIL are NO RESPECTERS of PERSONS!! EVEN BLOOD!!

SAD!!! PITIFUL!!

Will someone point a way for me to get a copy of the Obama and the Spiderman comic?

It's already on pre-sell ebay for $60.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/AMAZING-SPIDER-MAN-583-Bara...

rikyrah, see link below on PEO/Spiderman

Did anybody watch MTP this morning w/ Cosby, Poussaint, Maxine Waters, and Fenty? It was so so interesting. Bill Cosby's story of how he voted on Election Day was so moving. And, the discussion on black communities and black folks was so...honest. I had to think about it and hours later realized that there is some shifting going on.

Like, even a numb head like David Gregory could moderate a fascinating discussion about blacks and the realities of black life w/ 4 fierce participants. It was really something. Who knew?

Marshmallow (white, fluffy, no substance) could barely contribute anything. He started off with a "sucks to be Black" let me whip out all the crappy stats opener. Idiot. As if every bad situation belongs to Black people and we're all victims.

Yes, it was just deplorable.

Nothing but negative black stats...and they all sat around that table and said nothing to rebut those stats...just disgusting.

As I watched David Gregory moderate, I wondered how Gwen Ifill might have moderated an "All Black" panel like the one this morning. Would the NBC execs have been comfortable with Ifill hosting an all chocolate panel?

A few weeks ago, Gregory moderated an "All Female" panel.

I think that Gregory and his producers are attempting to bestow him with a heightened level of gravitas SIMPLY by hosting such diverse panels, ie. MTP is diverse inspite of it's "white bread" host.

My answer: "There's nothing like the real thing baby!" It isn't diversity when you throw black folks a bone like they tried this morning. It's about time that we have an AA host of a "Sunday Morning Public Affairs Program" that airs on one of the major networks.

BTW, I really really loved how *O* granted his first major CNN Interview to Suzanne Malveaux rather than the "Official CNN Chief White House Correspondent" Ed Henry.

I saw it. Yes, Cosby's story definitely tugged at the heartstrings. It was nice to hear.

It was an interesting conversation. I liked most of what they had to say (even if I don't always like how some of them say it). I'm also hoping to see a shift (in more ways than one). There's a lot of energy out there. This is a very special time.

A positive and time-honored thing to do during the inauguration ceremony while Rev Warren speaks:

http://look-to-lincoln.com

Hey Dog, Nice post.

I'm as conflicted as the next person about Lincoln but I'm content to honor him for the same reasons Obama does.

I realize the significance of doing this. And Lincoln certainly deserves the honor and respect he has received for being a tremendous president during extremely difficult times, but the people that created this site do realize that he in fact DID NOT believe in the equality of Black people right?

And I quote:

"If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union and is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I do believe it helps to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause" - President Abraham Lincoln, 1862

Emancipation Proclamation was a war tactic meant to weaken the South.

Not saying Lincoln was the devil. He deserves some credit given the times. But, yeah, he wasn't as concerned with negroes as some might assume.

Also, let's not forget that there were a fair share of abolitionists who opposed slavery for one reason . . . So they could send us all back to Africa.

Yes. This is how I see Lincoln to. He was no friend to us. He did what he did to save the union. If he could have done so without freeing us..he would have.

Also, like Barack he was not a religious man. He used faith politically. He understood that the masses were religious. The bible he was sworn in on was not a family bible but one given/made for the occasion.

I often say these things and folks don't believe me. But he does reflect Barack, as the pragmatist and I believe that is what is so compelling about Lincoln to Barack.

Also, let's not forget that there were a fair share of abolitionists who opposed slavery for one reason . . . So they could send us all back to Africa.

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This may sound strange, but I see nothing wrong with this reason if those who felt this way simply thought: "We stole them. Now we must return them."

Sure, such a return would be complicated, but still...

Actually, my understanding was that some abolitionists wanted to hurry up and send us back to Africa because they feared a severe backlash/slave revolt. The black population was expanding and some whites were beginning to realize how outnumbered they were in pockets of the population.

I'm sure some shared the sentiment you expressed. But, for others, it was kinda like: ship 'em back before those savages turn around and kill us!

Any of these motivations would've been fine with me. Well, not calling them savages, of course, but when you done wrong, of course you're going to fear retribution.

Imagine the course of world history had a movement succeeded in the US whereby slaves were returned to Africa.

Lets not forget Haiti- which scared the beejesus out of them as well. This pointed out to them exactly what an imbalance in population and years of injustice could push people towards --stealing their rights and dignity back.

My sister has a classmate at Ohio State who was very out spoken during the campaigns. He's a white male and actually came right out and said to her one day while they were talking about some incident (ya know there were so many), "We're afraid one day y'all just gone stop forgiving us"....she said she fell out laughing...I was rolling when she told me. Hysterical.

What white folks fear is themselves, they were beasts and barbaric ..so cruel to their OWN flesh and blood...so of course they are scared. If we act like them they need to be.

CO-SIGN!!!! PUH-LLEEEEZE.

Looking to Lincoln to dis Warren, to quote my momma, is like

"cuttin' off your nose to spite your face"

It ain't a perfect union yet. We're workin' on it. We're workin' on it...

barack and crew meet with 35 democratic senators to re-work the stimulus package and it seems as if the senators were shocked that it was less fighting and more openness and civility. In family dynamics theres this theory in parenting. two type theres the doing to type parents and the working with type parents. The bosses who say its my way or your in trouble or the lets work with mutual respect and understand each other and way this way may be more effect. Barack is leading by the latter, our current pres is leading with the former.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17335...

allamr18: HEY! :>)

WORKING ON SUNDAY! :>) That's what he said needed to happen because of the FIERCE URGENCY of this ECONOMIC SITUATION!! :>)

Mr. President-Elect Obama! LEADERSHIP BY EXAMPLE! :>) YES!!!

rikyrah: LOOK at Sasha & "DADDY's "RIGHT LEG! 2 CA- UTE!!! :>)

Jack Bauer is back!

LOL

This season of 24 will be awesome. So glad Soulpatch is back but it's kinda weird.