Comments on: About Jesse Jackson Jr.’s so-called ‘ Electability’ Problem http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:26:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: skepticalbrotha http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-344310 skepticalbrotha Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:14:19 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-344310 I've had all weekend to cool off a bit and do my due diligence in terms of research. I even went back and read the Senate debates of over 100 years ago when similar arguments were made against the first African American Senator, Hiram Revels. I sincerely believe that Roland Burris is a buffoon who selfishly put his desire to become a Senator over the interests of the black community to be represented by somebody black who could hold the seat, but Lynn Sweet's article dropping the dime on Reid and his mealy-mouthed dissembling changed my mind. There is no legal basis to deny Burris this seat. None whatsoever, despite the Caucus opposition to any<br>Blagojevich appointment. rikyrah and CPL are right and I was wrong. I've had all weekend to cool off a bit and do my due diligence in terms of research. I even went back and read the Senate debates of over 100 years ago when similar arguments were made against the first African American Senator, Hiram Revels. I sincerely believe that Roland Burris is a buffoon who selfishly put his desire to become a Senator over the interests of the black community to be represented by somebody black who could hold the seat, but Lynn Sweet's article dropping the dime on Reid and his mealy-mouthed dissembling changed my mind. There is no legal basis to deny Burris this seat. None whatsoever, despite the Caucus opposition to any
Blagojevich appointment. rikyrah and CPL are right and I was wrong.

]]> By: eclecticbrotha http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-344311 eclecticbrotha Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:53:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-344311 The only reason I didn't want Jesse appointed as senator is because I didn't want to lose him as my US Rep after suffering through the humiliation of Mel Reynolds and the embarrassment of Gus Savage. Jr. is better respected in the state than his father ever was and the clashes father and son had because of Jr's strong support of Obama's candidacy probably helped him a lot with progressives all over Illinois. Its so nice to know that after sucking up to the GOP in Congress Harry Reid was kind enough to meddle in my home state and fugg up things here, too. The only reason I didn't want Jesse appointed as senator is because I didn't want to lose him as my US Rep after suffering through the humiliation of Mel Reynolds and the embarrassment of Gus Savage. Jr. is better respected in the state than his father ever was and the clashes father and son had because of Jr's strong support of Obama's candidacy probably helped him a lot with progressives all over Illinois. Its so nice to know that after sucking up to the GOP in Congress Harry Reid was kind enough to meddle in my home state and fugg up things here, too.

]]> By: Rhondacoca http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-344313 Rhondacoca Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:50:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-344313 Oh Wonderful! wonderful! <br><br>Who cares right?<br><br>We have all of these tokens around the place?<br><br>Who gives a damn if they can't add up to anything. Oh Wonderful! wonderful!

Who cares right?

We have all of these tokens around the place?

Who gives a damn if they can't add up to anything.

]]> By: Nardwilly http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-344312 Nardwilly Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:26:55 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-344312 I agree with you very much on this. Blago's versions have no credibility. Check the source of info before taking sides. So what if there is no Black Senator, it’s because the Black Senator is now the Black President. There is a Black Governor of New York and Mass. There has already been a Black Governor of Virginia. Harold Ford lost a relatively close race in Tennessee. Blackwell ran in Ohio for the GOP and will perhaps be elected RNC Chairman. <br><br>The glass is more than half full I agree with you very much on this. Blago's versions have no credibility. Check the source of info before taking sides. So what if there is no Black Senator, it’s because the Black Senator is now the Black President. There is a Black Governor of New York and Mass. There has already been a Black Governor of Virginia. Harold Ford lost a relatively close race in Tennessee. Blackwell ran in Ohio for the GOP and will perhaps be elected RNC Chairman.

The glass is more than half full

]]> By: skepticalbrotha http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-160738 skepticalbrotha Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:14:19 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-160738 I've had all weekend to cool off a bit and do my due diligence in terms of research. I even went back and read the Senate debates of over 100 years ago when similar arguments were made against the first African American Senator, Hiram Revels. I sincerely believe that Roland Burris is a buffoon who selfishly put his desire to become a Senator over the interests of the black community to be represented by somebody black who could hold the seat, but Lynn Sweet's article dropping the dime on Reid and his mealy-mouthed dissembling changed my mind. There is no legal basis to deny Burris this seat. None whatsoever, despite the Caucus opposition to any<br>Blagojevich appointment. rikyrah and CPL are right and I was wrong. I've had all weekend to cool off a bit and do my due diligence in terms of research. I even went back and read the Senate debates of over 100 years ago when similar arguments were made against the first African American Senator, Hiram Revels. I sincerely believe that Roland Burris is a buffoon who selfishly put his desire to become a Senator over the interests of the black community to be represented by somebody black who could hold the seat, but Lynn Sweet's article dropping the dime on Reid and his mealy-mouthed dissembling changed my mind. There is no legal basis to deny Burris this seat. None whatsoever, despite the Caucus opposition to any
Blagojevich appointment. rikyrah and CPL are right and I was wrong.

]]> By: eclecticbrotha http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-160739 eclecticbrotha Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:53:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-160739 The only reason I didn't want Jesse appointed as senator is because I didn't want to lose him as my US Rep after suffering through the humiliation of Mel Reynolds and the embarrassment of Gus Savage. Jr. is better respected in the state than his father ever was and the clashes father and son had because of Jr's strong support of Obama's candidacy probably helped him a lot with progressives all over Illinois. Its so nice to know that after sucking up to the GOP in Congress Harry Reid was kind enough to meddle in my home state and fugg up things here, too. The only reason I didn't want Jesse appointed as senator is because I didn't want to lose him as my US Rep after suffering through the humiliation of Mel Reynolds and the embarrassment of Gus Savage. Jr. is better respected in the state than his father ever was and the clashes father and son had because of Jr's strong support of Obama's candidacy probably helped him a lot with progressives all over Illinois. Its so nice to know that after sucking up to the GOP in Congress Harry Reid was kind enough to meddle in my home state and fugg up things here, too.

]]> By: Rhondacoca http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-160741 Rhondacoca Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:50:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-160741 Oh Wonderful! wonderful! <br><br>Who cares right?<br><br>We have all of these tokens around the place?<br><br>Who gives a damn if they can't add up to anything. Oh Wonderful! wonderful!

Who cares right?

We have all of these tokens around the place?

Who gives a damn if they can't add up to anything.

]]> By: Nardwilly http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-160740 Nardwilly Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:26:55 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-160740 I agree with you very much on this. Blago's versions have no credibility. Check the source of info before taking sides. So what if there is no Black Senator, it’s because the Black Senator is now the Black President. There is a Black Governor of New York and Mass. There has already been a Black Governor of Virginia. Harold Ford lost a relatively close race in Tennessee. Blackwell ran in Ohio for the GOP and will perhaps be elected RNC Chairman. <br><br>The glass is more than half full I agree with you very much on this. Blago's versions have no credibility. Check the source of info before taking sides. So what if there is no Black Senator, it’s because the Black Senator is now the Black President. There is a Black Governor of New York and Mass. There has already been a Black Governor of Virginia. Harold Ford lost a relatively close race in Tennessee. Blackwell ran in Ohio for the GOP and will perhaps be elected RNC Chairman.

The glass is more than half full

]]> By: skepticalbrotha http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120631 skepticalbrotha Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:14:19 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120631 I've had all weekend to cool off a bit and do my due diligence in terms of research. I even went back and read the Senate debates of over 100 years ago when similar arguments were made against the first African American Senator, Hiram Revels. I sincerely believe that Roland Burris is a buffoon who selfishly put his desire to become a Senator over the interests of the black community to be represented by somebody black who could hold the seat, but Lynn Sweet's article dropping the dime on Reid and his mealy-mouthed dissembling changed my mind. There is no legal basis to deny Burris this seat. None whatsoever, despite the Caucus opposition to any<br>Blagojevich appointment. rikyrah and CPL are right and I was wrong. I've had all weekend to cool off a bit and do my due diligence in terms of research. I even went back and read the Senate debates of over 100 years ago when similar arguments were made against the first African American Senator, Hiram Revels. I sincerely believe that Roland Burris is a buffoon who selfishly put his desire to become a Senator over the interests of the black community to be represented by somebody black who could hold the seat, but Lynn Sweet's article dropping the dime on Reid and his mealy-mouthed dissembling changed my mind. There is no legal basis to deny Burris this seat. None whatsoever, despite the Caucus opposition to any
Blagojevich appointment. rikyrah and CPL are right and I was wrong.

]]> By: eclecticbrotha http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120625 eclecticbrotha Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:53:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120625 The only reason I didn't want Jesse appointed as senator is because I didn't want to lose him as my US Rep after suffering through the humiliation of Mel Reynolds and the embarrassment of Gus Savage. Jr. is better respected in the state than his father ever was and the clashes father and son had because of Jr's strong support of Obama's candidacy probably helped him a lot with state progressives all over the state. Its so nice to know that after sucking up to the GOP in Congress Harry Reid was kind enough to meddle in my home state and fugg up things here, too. The only reason I didn't want Jesse appointed as senator is because I didn't want to lose him as my US Rep after suffering through the humiliation of Mel Reynolds and the embarrassment of Gus Savage. Jr. is better respected in the state than his father ever was and the clashes father and son had because of Jr's strong support of Obama's candidacy probably helped him a lot with state progressives all over the state. Its so nice to know that after sucking up to the GOP in Congress Harry Reid was kind enough to meddle in my home state and fugg up things here, too.

]]> By: Rhondacoca http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120624 Rhondacoca Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:50:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120624 Oh Wonderful! wonderful! <br><br>Who cares right?<br><br>We have all of these tokens around the place?<br><br>Who gives a damn if they can't add up to anything. Oh Wonderful! wonderful!

Who cares right?

We have all of these tokens around the place?

Who gives a damn if they can't add up to anything.

]]> By: Nardwilly http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120615 Nardwilly Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:26:55 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120615 I agree with you very much on this. Blago's versions have no credibility. Check the source of info before taking sides. So what if there is no Black Senator, it’s because the Black Senator is now the Black President. There is a Black Governor of New York and Mass. There has already been a Black Governor of Virginia. Harold Ford lost a relatively close race in Tennessee. Blackwell ran in Ohio for the GOP and will perhaps be elected RNC Chairman. <br><br>The glass is more than half full I agree with you very much on this. Blago's versions have no credibility. Check the source of info before taking sides. So what if there is no Black Senator, it’s because the Black Senator is now the Black President. There is a Black Governor of New York and Mass. There has already been a Black Governor of Virginia. Harold Ford lost a relatively close race in Tennessee. Blackwell ran in Ohio for the GOP and will perhaps be elected RNC Chairman.

The glass is more than half full

]]> By: ultramagnetic http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120456 ultramagnetic Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:05:11 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120456 Take this story about Reid with a grain of salt. The info on the convo comes straight from Blagojevich. Wait for the tape because there is one............... Take this story about Reid with a grain of salt. The info on the convo comes straight from Blagojevich. Wait for the tape because there is one……………

]]> By: heartsandflowers http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120390 heartsandflowers Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:49:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120390 I hope this will be the start of some real political strategizing and vetting who the political allies are and AREN'T as far as those that would best serve the interests of a sizable amount of Black people. We have to look for the candidates who would best serve our interests locally/nationally and start wielding our political clout. Truth be told Obama got a lot of support but has made no concrete promises to Black people either. We're just hoping that a lot of what he has planned will include us but general things like jobs and housing is no guarantee of relief of specific problems that affect (some of) us. Can you see Harry Reid trying to pull this with any other group of people? And yet we keep supporting this political party with no PARITY in return. It is time for that to change. I hope this will be the start of some real political strategizing and vetting who the political allies are and AREN'T as far as those that would best serve the interests of a sizable amount of Black people. We have to look for the candidates who would best serve our interests locally/nationally and start wielding our political clout. Truth be told Obama got a lot of support but has made no concrete promises to Black people either. We're just hoping that a lot of what he has planned will include us but general things like jobs and housing is no guarantee of relief of specific problems that affect (some of) us. Can you see Harry Reid trying to pull this with any other group of people? And yet we keep supporting this political party with no PARITY in return. It is time for that to change.

]]> By: CPL http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120305 CPL Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:34:34 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120305 I call it good ol' fashioned covering his ass, Justice.<br><br>He got caught with his hands in Illinois' cookie jar and now he has to justify why he involved himself with this in the first place.<br><br>Pass the popcorn. I call it good ol' fashioned covering his ass, Justice.

He got caught with his hands in Illinois' cookie jar and now he has to justify why he involved himself with this in the first place.

Pass the popcorn.

]]> By: rikyrah http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120261 rikyrah Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:30:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120261 EVENING THREAD IS UP EVENING THREAD IS UP

]]> By: Honey01 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120247 Honey01 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:16:30 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120247 Dang. You guys were on fire yesterda! I am just catching up on yesterday's threads.<br><br>This whole scenario just pisses me off. I am so sick of Democratic leadership taking Black folks for granted. <br><br>All this talk of "taint" when the real deal was simply Burris was not the desired pick. Hmmph. Dang. You guys were on fire yesterda! I am just catching up on yesterday's threads.

This whole scenario just pisses me off. I am so sick of Democratic leadership taking Black folks for granted.

All this talk of “taint” when the real deal was simply Burris was not the desired pick. Hmmph.

]]> By: hotchimera http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120244 hotchimera Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:10:06 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120244 exactly Mike. this is not fair but exactly what is going on and will be hard for him to win many votes outside AA vote. just.a.fact. sigh exactly Mike. this is not fair but exactly what is going on and will be hard for him to win many votes outside AA vote. just.a.fact. sigh

]]> By: Mike http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120237 Mike Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:40:37 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120237 I think that it has to do with many of the so called main stream voters and the media who don't like his father, and, keep it real there are plenty who don't, as a reason for why they don't think he can win the whole state. Had he been named John Jackson, with his record, he probaly could. I think that it has to do with many of the so called main stream voters and the media who don't like his father, and, keep it real there are plenty who don't, as a reason for why they don't think he can win the whole state. Had he been named John Jackson, with his record, he probaly could.

]]> By: Sepia http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/01/about-jesse-jackson-jrs-so-called-electability-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-120236 Sepia Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:39:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5913#comment-120236 Somebody needs to produce a transcript/tape of Reid's convo with Gov. BlahBlah. Somebody needs to produce a transcript/tape of Reid's convo with Gov. BlahBlah.

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