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		<title>By: lennyhate</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-163645</link>
		<dc:creator>lennyhate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a black gay man, i wholehearted agree with you.  when i express outrage at obama&#039;s pick of pastor warren, it is not about racial politics.  i just find it disturbing that he would pick such a divisive figure.  the president-elect is not above reproach.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it also seems as if some are excusing homophobia.  that can&#039;t be the case, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a black gay man, i wholehearted agree with you.  when i express outrage at obama&#39;s pick of pastor warren, it is not about racial politics.  i just find it disturbing that he would pick such a divisive figure.  the president-elect is not above reproach.  </p>
<p>it also seems as if some are excusing homophobia.  that can&#39;t be the case, right?</p>
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		<title>By: lennyhate</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-163643</link>
		<dc:creator>lennyhate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jon stewert brought up a good point when debating with mike huckabee about gay rights.  he said that the real tragedy is that anyone should have to &quot;make a case&quot; in order to qualify for equal rights.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i agree that the No on 8 campaign should have done more outreach, but does that excuse homophobia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jon stewert brought up a good point when debating with mike huckabee about gay rights.  he said that the real tragedy is that anyone should have to &#8220;make a case&#8221; in order to qualify for equal rights.</p>
<p>i agree that the No on 8 campaign should have done more outreach, but does that excuse homophobia?</p>
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		<title>By: lennyhate</title>
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		<dc:creator>lennyhate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for posting this.  it seems as if a lot of posters here don&#039;t think that gays need to fight for equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for posting this.  it seems as if a lot of posters here don&#39;t think that gays need to fight for equality.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-163644</link>
		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&#039;s Gay POCs I&#039;m thinking about, because the White Gay establishment has literally told y&#039;all to put a sock in it, too...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Excuse me, but &lt;i&gt;y&#039;all&lt;/i&gt;?  I am not gay or bisexual; I am straight.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I sound as if I am a &quot;fellow traveler,&quot; understand that my life has been a bit more eclectic than some typical black folks.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I am sure that gays of color would if they could come out to their fellow parishioners...if there wasn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;old homophobia&lt;/i&gt; in the black, Latino and Asian communities already, starting with some of the denizens of this website whooping and hollering as I said before about so-called sin and repentance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I said before, &lt;b&gt;it is not always about race politics with black gays and gays of color.&lt;/b&gt; That does not mean that they are waiting for orders from white massas either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It&#39;s Gay POCs I&#39;m thinking about, because the White Gay establishment has literally told y&#39;all to put a sock in it, too&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Excuse me, but <i>y&#39;all</i>?  I am not gay or bisexual; I am straight.</p>
<p>If I sound as if I am a &#8220;fellow traveler,&#8221; understand that my life has been a bit more eclectic than some typical black folks.  </p>
<p>And I am sure that gays of color would if they could come out to their fellow parishioners&#8230;if there wasn&#39;t <i>old homophobia</i> in the black, Latino and Asian communities already, starting with some of the denizens of this website whooping and hollering as I said before about so-called sin and repentance.</p>
<p>As I said before, <b>it is not always about race politics with black gays and gays of color.</b> That does not mean that they are waiting for orders from white massas either.</p>
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		<title>By: lennyhate</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-116142</link>
		<dc:creator>lennyhate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a black gay man, i wholehearted agree with you.  when i express outrage at obama&#039;s pick of pastor warren, it is not about racial politics.  i just find it disturbing that he would pick such a divisive figure.  the president-elect is not above reproach.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it also seems as if some are excusing homophobia.  that can&#039;t be the case, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a black gay man, i wholehearted agree with you.  when i express outrage at obama&#39;s pick of pastor warren, it is not about racial politics.  i just find it disturbing that he would pick such a divisive figure.  the president-elect is not above reproach.  </p>
<p>it also seems as if some are excusing homophobia.  that can&#39;t be the case, right?</p>
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		<title>By: lennyhate</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-116141</link>
		<dc:creator>lennyhate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jon stewert brought up a good point when debating with mike huckabee about gay rights.  he said that the real tragedy is that anyone should have to &quot;make a case&quot; in order to qualify for equal rights.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i agree that the No on 8 campaign should have done more outreach, but does that excuse homophobia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jon stewert brought up a good point when debating with mike huckabee about gay rights.  he said that the real tragedy is that anyone should have to &#8220;make a case&#8221; in order to qualify for equal rights.</p>
<p>i agree that the No on 8 campaign should have done more outreach, but does that excuse homophobia?</p>
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		<title>By: lennyhate</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-116135</link>
		<dc:creator>lennyhate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for posting this.  it seems as if a lot of posters here don&#039;t think that gays need to fight for equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for posting this.  it seems as if a lot of posters here don&#39;t think that gays need to fight for equality.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-116131</link>
		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;t&#039;s Gay POCs I&#039;m thinking about, because the White Gay establishment has literally told y&#039;all to put a sock in it, too...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Excuse me, but &lt;i&gt;y&#039;all&lt;/i&gt;?  I am not gay; I am straight.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I sound as if I am a &quot;fellow traveler,&quot; understand that my life has been a bit more eclectic than some typical black folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>t&#39;s Gay POCs I&#39;m thinking about, because the White Gay establishment has literally told y&#39;all to put a sock in it, too&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Excuse me, but <i>y&#39;all</i>?  I am not gay; I am straight.</p>
<p>If I sound as if I am a &#8220;fellow traveler,&#8221; understand that my life has been a bit more eclectic than some typical black folks.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep...white entitlement is a bytch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230;white entitlement is a bytch.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda:  Just &quot;HOLD YOUR ABS IN while eatin&#039; as much as you want!!  :&gt;)     :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda:  Just &#8220;HOLD YOUR ABS IN while eatin&#39; as much as you want!!  :&gt;)     :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-115961</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D: I remared abouth this B4.  --The dissonance Btween the TITLE &amp; the STORY!! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;VERY DISTURBING!!  AArrgg!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Topic #2:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;YOU &amp; YOURS have a &lt;b&gt;VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS &amp; a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;***CALMLY***    :&gt;)      :&gt;)    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D: I remared abouth this B4.  &#8211;The dissonance Btween the TITLE &#038; the STORY!! </p>
<p>VERY DISTURBING!!  AArrgg!</p>
<p>Topic #2:</p>
<p>YOU &#038; YOURS have a <b>VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS &#038; a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!</b></p>
<p>***CALMLY***    :&gt;)      :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whiterosebuddy:  Co-sign!   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whiterosebuddy:  Co-sign!   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/tuesday-open-thread-25/comment-page-3/#comment-115956</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARP:   LOL!!    :&gt;)    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;**shakin&#039; my head!:&gt;)****&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;MERRY CHRISTMAS &amp; HAPPY NEW YEAR&lt;/b&gt; to you &amp; yours!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;C&#039;mon!  YOU just ENJOY them!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARP:   LOL!!    :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
<p>**shakin&#39; my head!:&gt;)****</p>
<p><b>MERRY CHRISTMAS &#038; HAPPY NEW YEAR</b> to you &#038; yours!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
<p>C&#39;mon!  YOU just ENJOY them!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lilytiger:   HeeeeeeY!!!  :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)  I like the &quot;traditional ones&quot; 2!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;THANK YOU&lt;/b&gt; for ALL your work on this &quot;special music!&quot;  :&gt;)   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;U   R   A   &quot;jewel!&quot;  :&gt;)    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bAJ3icNrF8&amp;eurl=http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mariah-carey-hark-the-herald-angels-sing-gloria-in-excelsis-deo-lyrics/2443992256/?icid=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hark! The Herald Angels Sing - Gloria (In Excelsis Deo) + lyrics (Mariah Carey)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS &amp; A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!&lt;/b&gt;  :&gt;)   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;God Bless YOU &amp; YOURS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lilytiger:   HeeeeeeY!!!  :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)  I like the &#8220;traditional ones&#8221; 2!!   :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
<p><b>THANK YOU</b> for ALL your work on this &#8220;special music!&#8221;  :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
<p>U   R   A   &#8220;jewel!&#8221;  :&gt;)    </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bAJ3icNrF8&#038;eurl=http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mariah-carey-hark-the-herald-angels-sing-gloria-in-excelsis-deo-lyrics/2443992256/?icid=" rel="nofollow">Hark! The Herald Angels Sing &#8211; Gloria (In Excelsis Deo) + lyrics (Mariah Carey)</a></p>
<p><b>HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS &#038; A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!</b>  :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
<p>God Bless YOU &#038; YOURS!</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s funny...but it&#039;s not! So stop making me laugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s funny&#8230;but it&#39;s not! So stop making me laugh!</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Gay POCs I&#039;m thinking about, because the White Gay establishment has literally told y&#039;all to put a sock in it, too, until they decide you&#039;re worth parading around as a point of &quot;inclusion&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If they wanted POCs&#039; support, who better to utilize to go into the churches, synagogues, temples and cathedrals to educate and marshall support than the gay POCs?  The white gays run thangs and want to blame POCs for THEIR screw-ups.  So, I&#039;m not singling out or forgetting gay POCs, but it sure as hell looks like the white gays don&#039;t even think about y&#039;all unless it&#039;s Jasmyne or Pam Spaulding getting in their grills.  I will make that distinction from here on in, because I tend to type ahead of my thoughts, and I meant no disparaging by not making that distinction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s Gay POCs I&#39;m thinking about, because the White Gay establishment has literally told y&#39;all to put a sock in it, too, until they decide you&#39;re worth parading around as a point of &#8220;inclusion&#8221;.</p>
<p>If they wanted POCs&#39; support, who better to utilize to go into the churches, synagogues, temples and cathedrals to educate and marshall support than the gay POCs?  The white gays run thangs and want to blame POCs for THEIR screw-ups.  So, I&#39;m not singling out or forgetting gay POCs, but it sure as hell looks like the white gays don&#39;t even think about y&#39;all unless it&#39;s Jasmyne or Pam Spaulding getting in their grills.  I will make that distinction from here on in, because I tend to type ahead of my thoughts, and I meant no disparaging by not making that distinction.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as white gays are concerned WRB, Clinton isn&#039;t catching half the grief Obama is...and Obama hasn&#039;t even been sworn in yet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clinton unveiled his deviousness after he was sworn in.  He strung the LGBT community along until he was inaugurated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m just sick of the LGBT crowd who thinks Obama is supposed to jump when they holler, but they tell US to STHU because they still got that &quot;privilege&quot; thang going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as white gays are concerned WRB, Clinton isn&#39;t catching half the grief Obama is&#8230;and Obama hasn&#39;t even been sworn in yet.</p>
<p>Clinton unveiled his deviousness after he was sworn in.  He strung the LGBT community along until he was inaugurated.</p>
<p>I&#39;m just sick of the LGBT crowd who thinks Obama is supposed to jump when they holler, but they tell US to STHU because they still got that &#8220;privilege&#8221; thang going on.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
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		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I did not equate TheLaw to any deity. I asked could you be a Buddhist and not practice THE LAW?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, your ignorance is showing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You don&#039;t even know what The Law is.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;I, personally am not saying homosexuals are living in sin. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So you say...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;What makes you think I squeeze my legs shut EVER? Just because I have a discussion with you doesn&#039;t mean you know my personal sexual conduct....&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Boy, you really don&#039;t get it, do you?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Shakes head.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I did not equate TheLaw to any deity. I asked could you be a Buddhist and not practice THE LAW?</i></p>
<p>Again, your ignorance is showing.</p>
<p>You don&#39;t even know what The Law is.  </p>
<p><i>I, personally am not saying homosexuals are living in sin. </i></p>
<p>So you say&#8230;</p>
<p><i>What makes you think I squeeze my legs shut EVER? Just because I have a discussion with you doesn&#39;t mean you know my personal sexual conduct&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>Boy, you really don&#39;t get it, do you?</p>
<p>(Shakes head.)</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blksista,&lt;br&gt;I did not equate TheLaw to any deity. I asked could you be a Buddhist and not practice THE LAW? If not, how can anyone think they can be Christian and not practice the Christian tenets. Very simply question. Not complex at all.Not ignorant either. Instead, it is very enlightened unlike the replies to the query. Where you are obfuscating and misconstruing what was said to say what you like without focus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did not say homosexuals were living in sin. The Christian faith says that and anyone who practices the Christian faith and says otherwise, is setting up a sham. The bible is not vague at all about it.  There are those who want to beleive it is not a sin, but then folks who steal, lie, cheat and committ adultery also FEEL the same. Doesn&#039;t make it true. It simply means they live in denial and choose not to be accountable under the tenets of Christianity. It does not mean it is not a sin in the Christian faith.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What makes you think I squeeze my legs shut EVER?  Just because I have a discussion with you doesn&#039;t mean you know my personal sexual conduct. For the record, I think sex is wonderful and have no problem consumating my relationship with utter joy and uncounted frequency..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it is not my interpretation, it is the bible. It is not some silly made up religious denomination creed that says you can&#039;t dance or wear red ...it is stated in the bible. If it is stated in the bible, it is clear and not some person&#039;s whim. Those who disregard the bible and attempt to assert otherwise are lieing. Folks, do not get to have their own version of Christianity. It is not multiple choice. There is one creed, and it is written in the bible. I take no ownership for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am quite liberated spiritually and unoppressed by any faith. Nor am I in denial about what Christianity means and what the sins are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blksista,<br />I did not equate TheLaw to any deity. I asked could you be a Buddhist and not practice THE LAW? If not, how can anyone think they can be Christian and not practice the Christian tenets. Very simply question. Not complex at all.Not ignorant either. Instead, it is very enlightened unlike the replies to the query. Where you are obfuscating and misconstruing what was said to say what you like without focus.</p>
<p>I did not say homosexuals were living in sin. The Christian faith says that and anyone who practices the Christian faith and says otherwise, is setting up a sham. The bible is not vague at all about it.  There are those who want to beleive it is not a sin, but then folks who steal, lie, cheat and committ adultery also FEEL the same. Doesn&#39;t make it true. It simply means they live in denial and choose not to be accountable under the tenets of Christianity. It does not mean it is not a sin in the Christian faith.</p>
<p>What makes you think I squeeze my legs shut EVER?  Just because I have a discussion with you doesn&#39;t mean you know my personal sexual conduct. For the record, I think sex is wonderful and have no problem consumating my relationship with utter joy and uncounted frequency..</p>
<p>So it is not my interpretation, it is the bible. It is not some silly made up religious denomination creed that says you can&#39;t dance or wear red &#8230;it is stated in the bible. If it is stated in the bible, it is clear and not some person&#39;s whim. Those who disregard the bible and attempt to assert otherwise are lieing. Folks, do not get to have their own version of Christianity. It is not multiple choice. There is one creed, and it is written in the bible. I take no ownership for it.</p>
<p>I am quite liberated spiritually and unoppressed by any faith. Nor am I in denial about what Christianity means and what the sins are.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world according to WRB:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;WRONG. Can you be a Buddhist and not practice THE LAW?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WRB, don&#039;t make the mistake of equating the Law with god, Jesus or the trinity.  &lt;i&gt;It is not the same.&lt;/i&gt;  You tried this before, and it just shows your ignorance (and intolerance) about other religions and what they offer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;How the can anyone claim they are Christian and live in sin.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, I say, you equate them choosing to have sex--or making love--with another gay person as a sin.  I don&#039;t think of it as a sin.  And I say that regardless of whether I am a practicing Buddhist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;That is against the Christian faith it is real simple.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;YOUR interpretation of Christian faith, that is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The United Church of Christ, the Unitarians--they certainly don&#039;t think so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;For everyone that is except homosexuals who want to insist they get to fornicate in sin in perpetuity without repenting.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, &lt;i&gt;yick&lt;/i&gt;!  Straight from out of &lt;i&gt;Elmer Gantry&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Carrie&lt;/i&gt; or something.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tell me something.  How many times do you squeeze your legs shut per day?  It&#039;s a wonder you&#039;re not knock-kneed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I said before, I am soooooo glad to be liberated from this kind of oppressive faith and spirituality.  I just wonder why some gays, especially blacks and gays of color, would want to go through such self-abnegation and abuse to be a part of such churches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world according to WRB:</p>
<p><i>WRONG. Can you be a Buddhist and not practice THE LAW?</i></p>
<p>WRB, don&#39;t make the mistake of equating the Law with god, Jesus or the trinity.  <i>It is not the same.</i>  You tried this before, and it just shows your ignorance (and intolerance) about other religions and what they offer.</p>
<p><i>How the can anyone claim they are Christian and live in sin.</i></p>
<p>Again, I say, you equate them choosing to have sex&#8211;or making love&#8211;with another gay person as a sin.  I don&#39;t think of it as a sin.  And I say that regardless of whether I am a practicing Buddhist.</p>
<p><i>That is against the Christian faith it is real simple.</i></p>
<p>YOUR interpretation of Christian faith, that is.</p>
<p>The United Church of Christ, the Unitarians&#8211;they certainly don&#39;t think so.</p>
<p><i>For everyone that is except homosexuals who want to insist they get to fornicate in sin in perpetuity without repenting.</i></p>
<p>Oh, <i>yick</i>!  Straight from out of <i>Elmer Gantry</i> or <i>Carrie</i> or something.  </p>
<p>Tell me something.  How many times do you squeeze your legs shut per day?  It&#39;s a wonder you&#39;re not knock-kneed.</p>
<p>As I said before, I am soooooo glad to be liberated from this kind of oppressive faith and spirituality.  I just wonder why some gays, especially blacks and gays of color, would want to go through such self-abnegation and abuse to be a part of such churches.</p>
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