Comments on: Thoughts On The Clinton Appointment http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:56:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: CraigHickmanhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-338651 CraigHickman Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:24:21 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-338651 Change is about more than hiring new people. It's also about the <i>process</i>. In that, Barack has more than delivered. <br><br>Change is not accepting money from federally registered lobbyists for your transition and inauguration.<br><br>Change is about limiting donations to $50,000 for those who want to donate to your transition and inauguration.<br><br>Change is not allowing anyone on your transition team to be a federally registered lobbyist.<br><br>Change is about not allowing anyone who was a registered lobbyist to work on policy for their former industry for at least a year.<br><br>Change is picking your cabinet before Christmas, which Present-elect Obama is on track to do.<br><br>Change is about considering an <i>openly</i> gay person to a cabinet post.<br><br>Change is about picking a cabinet and a staff that look more and more like a <i>coalition government</i> everyday.<br><br>We don't have to like all the Clinton administration faces. I don't like one in particular. But we do need to consider the entire picture. Change is about more than hiring new people. It's also about the process. In that, Barack has more than delivered.

Change is not accepting money from federally registered lobbyists for your transition and inauguration.

Change is about limiting donations to $50,000 for those who want to donate to your transition and inauguration.

Change is not allowing anyone on your transition team to be a federally registered lobbyist.

Change is about not allowing anyone who was a registered lobbyist to work on policy for their former industry for at least a year.

Change is picking your cabinet before Christmas, which Present-elect Obama is on track to do.

Change is about considering an openly gay person to a cabinet post.

Change is about picking a cabinet and a staff that look more and more like a coalition government everyday.

We don't have to like all the Clinton administration faces. I don't like one in particular. But we do need to consider the entire picture.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-338654 freespiritbty Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:23:23 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-338654 LOL, yes!! Fantastic point about the different form of affirmative action. Billary, nothing but drama. They're like a tornado that destroys everything in it's path. LOL, yes!! Fantastic point about the different form of affirmative action. Billary, nothing but drama. They're like a tornado that destroys everything in it's path.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-338652 freespiritbty Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:36:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-338652 YES! A fallacy indeed. I thought I was the only one sitting here thinking "Hillary is full of pure shit talking about feminism" Such a double standard. YES! A fallacy indeed. I thought I was the only one sitting here thinking “Hillary is full of pure shit talking about feminism” Such a double standard.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-338653 freespiritbty Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:03:22 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-338653 I see what you're saying. I was hoping the donor list would put the nail in the coffin of the Clintons, but to no avail. FRACK!! FRACKING FRACK! I see what you're saying. I was hoping the donor list would put the nail in the coffin of the Clintons, but to no avail. FRACK!! FRACKING FRACK!

]]> By: CraigHickmanhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-162169 CraigHickman Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:24:21 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-162169 Change is about more than hiring new people. It's also about the <i>process</i>. In that, Barack has more than delivered. <br><br>Change is not accepting money from federally registered lobbyists for your transition and inauguration.<br><br>Change is about limiting donations to $50,000 for those who want to donate to your transition and inauguration.<br><br>Change is not allowing anyone on your transition team to be a federally registered lobbyist.<br><br>Change is about not allowing anyone who was a registered lobbyist to work on policy for their former industry for at least a year.<br><br>Change is picking your cabinet before Christmas, which Present-elect Obama is on track to do.<br><br>Change is about considering an <i>openly</i> gay person to a cabinet post.<br><br>Change is about picking a cabinet and a staff that look more and more like a <i>coalition government</i> everyday.<br><br>We don't have to like all the Clinton administration faces. I don't like one in particular. But we do need to consider the entire picture. Change is about more than hiring new people. It's also about the process. In that, Barack has more than delivered.

Change is not accepting money from federally registered lobbyists for your transition and inauguration.

Change is about limiting donations to $50,000 for those who want to donate to your transition and inauguration.

Change is not allowing anyone on your transition team to be a federally registered lobbyist.

Change is about not allowing anyone who was a registered lobbyist to work on policy for their former industry for at least a year.

Change is picking your cabinet before Christmas, which Present-elect Obama is on track to do.

Change is about considering an openly gay person to a cabinet post.

Change is about picking a cabinet and a staff that look more and more like a coalition government everyday.

We don't have to like all the Clinton administration faces. I don't like one in particular. But we do need to consider the entire picture.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-162172 freespiritbty Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:23:23 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-162172 LOL, yes!! Fantastic point about the different form of affirmative action. Billary, nothing but drama. They're like a tornado that destroys everything in it's path. LOL, yes!! Fantastic point about the different form of affirmative action. Billary, nothing but drama. They're like a tornado that destroys everything in it's path.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-162170 freespiritbty Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:36:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-162170 YES! A fallacy indeed. I thought I was the only one sitting here thinking "Hillary is full of pure shit talking about feminism" Such a double standard. YES! A fallacy indeed. I thought I was the only one sitting here thinking “Hillary is full of pure shit talking about feminism” Such a double standard.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-162171 freespiritbty Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:03:22 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-162171 I see what you're saying. I was hoping the donor list would put the nail in the coffin of the Clintons, but to no avail. FRACK!! FRACKING FRACK! I see what you're saying. I was hoping the donor list would put the nail in the coffin of the Clintons, but to no avail. FRACK!! FRACKING FRACK!

]]> By: CraigHickmanhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107598 CraigHickman Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:24:21 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107598 Change is about more than hiring new people. It's also about <i>process</i>. In that, Barack has more than delivered. <br><br>Change is not accepting money from federally registered lobbyists for your transition and inauguration.<br><br>Change is about limiting donations to $50,000 for those who want to donate to your transition and inauguration.<br><br>Change is not allowing anyone on your transition team to be a federally registered lobbyist.<br><br>Change is about not allowing anyone who was a registered lobbyist to work on policy for their former industry for at least a year.<br><br>Change is picking your cabinet before Christmas, which Present-elect Obama is on track to do.<br><br>Change is about picking a cabinet and a staff that look more and more like a coalition government everyday.<br><br>Change is about considering an <i>openly</i> gay person to a cabinet post. Change is about more than hiring new people. It's also about process. In that, Barack has more than delivered.

Change is not accepting money from federally registered lobbyists for your transition and inauguration.

Change is about limiting donations to $50,000 for those who want to donate to your transition and inauguration.

Change is not allowing anyone on your transition team to be a federally registered lobbyist.

Change is about not allowing anyone who was a registered lobbyist to work on policy for their former industry for at least a year.

Change is picking your cabinet before Christmas, which Present-elect Obama is on track to do.

Change is about picking a cabinet and a staff that look more and more like a coalition government everyday.

Change is about considering an openly gay person to a cabinet post.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107587 freespiritbty Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:23:23 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107587 LOL, yes!! Fantastic point about the different form of affirmative action. Billary, nothing but drama. They're like a tornado that destroys everything in it's path. LOL, yes!! Fantastic point about the different form of affirmative action. Billary, nothing but drama. They're like a tornado that destroys everything in it's path.

]]> By: freespiritbtyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107584 freespiritbty Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:03:22 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107584 I see what you're saying. I was hoping the donor list would put the nail in the coffin of the Clintons, but to no avail. FRACK!! FRACKING FRACK! I see what you're saying. I was hoping the donor list would put the nail in the coffin of the Clintons, but to no avail. FRACK!! FRACKING FRACK!

]]> By: Monicahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107471 Monica Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:15:00 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107471 I will always love the unrepentant optimism surrounding Obama (especially on this board).<br><br>I, on the other hand, question Obama's commitment to change. If the country took a chance on him because he promised change, why wouldn't he take a chance on outsiders in his cabinet? He's nominating the same people who got us in this mess-that's not just Clinton-it's majority of people he has tapped.<br><br>As for progressives throwing their the vast majority of their support behind him, name one unapologetically liberal among his picks. They are all right of center.<br><br>He won the election, hopefully people please get their head out the clouds now. Did you want change or Clinton, part three?<br><br>Painting a problem black isn't change. I will always love the unrepentant optimism surrounding Obama (especially on this board).

I, on the other hand, question Obama's commitment to change. If the country took a chance on him because he promised change, why wouldn't he take a chance on outsiders in his cabinet? He's nominating the same people who got us in this mess-that's not just Clinton-it's majority of people he has tapped.

As for progressives throwing their the vast majority of their support behind him, name one unapologetically liberal among his picks. They are all right of center.

He won the election, hopefully people please get their head out the clouds now. Did you want change or Clinton, part three?

Painting a problem black isn't change.

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107441 CPL Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:03:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107441 Bill tried to do an end-run around that Constitutional Amendment that limited him to two terms. He tried for a de-facto third term through Hillary.<br><br>Obama denied him that defacto third term. So legacy she has to worry about is whether or not it remains tied to Bill or she creates her own, separate from Bill, which is hard to do, since we only know about her because of her legacy appointments as a result of Bill.<br><br>Don't make me call it what it is, but Black people catch hell if we even TRY IT... Bill tried to do an end-run around that Constitutional Amendment that limited him to two terms. He tried for a de-facto third term through Hillary.

Obama denied him that defacto third term. So legacy she has to worry about is whether or not it remains tied to Bill or she creates her own, separate from Bill, which is hard to do, since we only know about her because of her legacy appointments as a result of Bill.

Don't make me call it what it is, but Black people catch hell if we even TRY IT…

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107440 CPL Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:01:03 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107440 See, Billy Jeff trying to cash in already. Dayum, he could at least wait until she's actually confirmed before begging for cash.<br><br>Um, wait - he can't use her position to solicit money; I'm sure there's a conflict of interest as well as a constitutional violation somewhere... See, Billy Jeff trying to cash in already. Dayum, he could at least wait until she's actually confirmed before begging for cash.

Um, wait – he can't use her position to solicit money; I'm sure there's a conflict of interest as well as a constitutional violation somewhere…

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107439 CPL Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:59:27 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107439 Then you agree you should be on the pole to retire your campaign debt, instead of expecting "daddy" to take care of it for you, huh?<br><br><<<shakes head and LOL>>> Then you agree you should be on the pole to retire your campaign debt, instead of expecting “daddy” to take care of it for you, huh?

<<<shakes head and LOL>>>

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107438 CPL Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:56:29 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107438 That's just it - THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO CONTINUING DRAMA with a prolonged confirmation hearing. There is enough shyt on both Hillary and Bill that a few well placed questions could get her off track and down the road to Defending Bill, as opposed to her highlighting her qualifications for the job. A Senate Confirmation is the most formal job interview you will ever see, because the Senators get to ask you about any and everything, even if there is no relevancy to the job at hand.<br><br>If she gets through the hearing in less than a day (four hours' max), she'll get confirmed. If it goes longer, there may be problems in confirming her.<br><br>And I don't like the fact that Joe Lieberman is still around to gum up the works. Now that Saxby Chambliss won his run off, Al Franken has to pull off an upset in Minnesota to get the last Senate seat in the Democratic column, and Lieberman has made himself some friends in the GOP who would love to tank this nomination, and Lieberman is a vindictive little weasel who will still try to extract revenge on any Democrat he believes didn't support his re-election.<br><br>Politics,Politics. Politics. Charge it to the Game. That's just it – THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO CONTINUING DRAMA with a prolonged confirmation hearing. There is enough shyt on both Hillary and Bill that a few well placed questions could get her off track and down the road to Defending Bill, as opposed to her highlighting her qualifications for the job. A Senate Confirmation is the most formal job interview you will ever see, because the Senators get to ask you about any and everything, even if there is no relevancy to the job at hand.

If she gets through the hearing in less than a day (four hours' max), she'll get confirmed. If it goes longer, there may be problems in confirming her.

And I don't like the fact that Joe Lieberman is still around to gum up the works. Now that Saxby Chambliss won his run off, Al Franken has to pull off an upset in Minnesota to get the last Senate seat in the Democratic column, and Lieberman has made himself some friends in the GOP who would love to tank this nomination, and Lieberman is a vindictive little weasel who will still try to extract revenge on any Democrat he believes didn't support his re-election.

Politics,Politics. Politics. Charge it to the Game.

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107437 CPL Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:51:11 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107437 They are probably going to take back Hillary's raise in Senate pay so she can qualify to take the post.<br><br>I don't like it, but as it was already said, it's Obama's Administration to Eff-Up. They are probably going to take back Hillary's raise in Senate pay so she can qualify to take the post.

I don't like it, but as it was already said, it's Obama's Administration to Eff-Up.

]]> By: CPLhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107436 CPL Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:49:50 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107436 ROFLMAO...<br><br>I felt sorry for Michael Douglas, and I remember that movie scared a lot of guys into faithfulness for a hot minute. ROFLMAO…

I felt sorry for Michael Douglas, and I remember that movie scared a lot of guys into faithfulness for a hot minute.

]]> By: rikyrahhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107422 rikyrah Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:30:12 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107422 I've read this three times, and I'm LMAO everytime. I've read this three times, and I'm LMAO everytime.

]]> By: rikyrahhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/thoughts-on-the-clinton-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-107421 rikyrah Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:28:04 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5131#comment-107421 lol lol

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