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		<title>By: Lilytiger</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-6/#comment-161374</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilytiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, discus has been giving me problems but I wanted to say Merry Christmas and may the joy of the season be with you and yours.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That goes for all of you. Only the best in the New Year and prosperity and love for each of us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, discus has been giving me problems but I wanted to say Merry Christmas and may the joy of the season be with you and yours.</p>
<p>That goes for all of you. Only the best in the New Year and prosperity and love for each of us!</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because the church is still standing doesn&#039;t necessarily have anything to do with Christ.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The church is a powerful institution. It survives because powerful conservative institutions survive. Much like the American presidency.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s in the nature of powerful conservative institutions to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because the church is still standing doesn&#39;t necessarily have anything to do with Christ.</p>
<p>The church is a powerful institution. It survives because powerful conservative institutions survive. Much like the American presidency.</p>
<p>It&#39;s in the nature of powerful conservative institutions to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s what I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#39;s what I meant.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-6/#comment-161372</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolina, did you mean leaves a lot to be desired?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not offended...am drinking my Champagne Cosmo...not spazzing over this. I done my good deed...I&#039;m moving on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolina, did you mean leaves a lot to be desired?</p>
<p>Not offended&#8230;am drinking my Champagne Cosmo&#8230;not spazzing over this. I done my good deed&#8230;I&#39;m moving on.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilytiger</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115526</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilytiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, discus has been giving me problems but I wanted to say Merry Christmas and may the joy of the season be with you and yours.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That goes for all of you. Only the best in the New Year and prosperity and love for each of us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, discus has been giving me problems but I wanted to say Merry Christmas and may the joy of the season be with you and yours.</p>
<p>That goes for all of you. Only the best in the New Year and prosperity and love for each of us!</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115508</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because the church is still standing doesn&#039;t necessarily have anything to do with Christ.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The church is a powerful institution. It survives because powerful conservative institutions survive..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s in their nature to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because the church is still standing doesn&#39;t necessarily have anything to do with Christ.</p>
<p>The church is a powerful institution. It survives because powerful conservative institutions survive..</p>
<p>It&#39;s in their nature to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115473</link>
		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s what I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#39;s what I meant.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115451</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolina, did you mean leaves a lot to be desired?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not offended...am drinking my Champagne Cosmo...not spazzing over this. I done my good deed...I&#039;m moving on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolina, did you mean leaves a lot to be desired?</p>
<p>Not offended&#8230;am drinking my Champagne Cosmo&#8230;not spazzing over this. I done my good deed&#8230;I&#39;m moving on.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right back at cha Justice58.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right back at cha Justice58.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all good Michelle. Keep posting and I&#039;ll keep reading. The reason I shrugged is because you kinda drifted off into a different topic, which in my view has more to do w/ the back forth b/w you and WRB, than with me bringing up what you said. You both have a lot of valid points in what you say about a lot of the topics discussed here. I will say that WRB has a debate style that is to be desired (no offense WRB) but don&#039;t let that get you down (if it helps, try the Champagne Cosmo). Keep posting and I&#039;ll keep reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s all good Michelle. Keep posting and I&#39;ll keep reading. The reason I shrugged is because you kinda drifted off into a different topic, which in my view has more to do w/ the back forth b/w you and WRB, than with me bringing up what you said. You both have a lot of valid points in what you say about a lot of the topics discussed here. I will say that WRB has a debate style that is to be desired (no offense WRB) but don&#39;t let that get you down (if it helps, try the Champagne Cosmo). Keep posting and I&#39;ll keep reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115420</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as a note, Channukkah is a seriously minor Jewish holiday that only gets attention in this society because of its time-proximity to a major Christian holiday.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, I&#039;m sorry that you didn&#039;t get what I was saying  in that comment and shrugged about it. It&#039;s on me, I don&#039;t speak these kinds of things in ways that make clear what I am actually saying in language that people can hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a note, Channukkah is a seriously minor Jewish holiday that only gets attention in this society because of its time-proximity to a major Christian holiday.  </p>
<p>And, I&#39;m sorry that you didn&#39;t get what I was saying  in that comment and shrugged about it. It&#39;s on me, I don&#39;t speak these kinds of things in ways that make clear what I am actually saying in language that people can hear.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115419</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, just because the topic is religion and homosexuality does not make me a religious fanatic! I am presenting an argument not prosletyzing..geez&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And if you do not know that Buddha DID create THE LAW that is on you.&lt;br&gt;Do a little more in-depth studying on Buddhism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Facts are not fallacies. Opinions most often times are when they meet up with the facts as yours have here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nothing belittling about stating truths. My life is rich, full and very satisfying, because I do not engage in self-delusion to make myself right and the world around me wrong just to support a need for deviant sexual desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, just because the topic is religion and homosexuality does not make me a religious fanatic! I am presenting an argument not prosletyzing..geez</p>
<p>And if you do not know that Buddha DID create THE LAW that is on you.<br />Do a little more in-depth studying on Buddhism.</p>
<p>Facts are not fallacies. Opinions most often times are when they meet up with the facts as yours have here.</p>
<p>Nothing belittling about stating truths. My life is rich, full and very satisfying, because I do not engage in self-delusion to make myself right and the world around me wrong just to support a need for deviant sexual desires.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that was a great one. ..Comin to America&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I loved the scene where she told the King, he was KIng and could make any law he wanted, cause he was King...that was priceless!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reminds me of women when they say he may be the head of the house, but I am the neck, and he can&#039;t move less I say so!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that was a great one. ..Comin to America</p>
<p> I loved the scene where she told the King, he was KIng and could make any law he wanted, cause he was King&#8230;that was priceless!!</p>
<p>Reminds me of women when they say he may be the head of the house, but I am the neck, and he can&#39;t move less I say so!!</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115415</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O, I understand that Lily.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are right, we are a democracy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;MerryChristmas LIlytiger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, I understand that Lily.  </p>
<p>You are right, we are a democracy.</p>
<p>MerryChristmas LIlytiger</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>womanistmusings, this spoken word was gut wrenching, heart rending, courageous.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen anything quite like this since The Vagina Monlouges.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sending the link to my daughters, neices, sisters........  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>womanistmusings, this spoken word was gut wrenching, heart rending, courageous.  I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve seen anything quite like this since The Vagina Monlouges.</p>
<p>I&#39;m sending the link to my daughters, neices, sisters&#8230;&#8230;..  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO!!! Hal you are a straight fool for that!! I love that movie. :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO!!! Hal you are a straight fool for that!! I love that movie. :o)</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115386</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN!</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115385</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it you know a lot about that heartsandflowers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it you know a lot about that heartsandflowers.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/sunday-open-thread-31/comment-page-5/#comment-115384</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well blk sista, given that you think, truth is relative...surely you know the corollary is that wrong is relative as well...if your truth is relative so in the heck is everything else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So,please don&#039;t attempt to project some sanctimonious ominiscient superiority. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is just plain unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well blk sista, given that you think, truth is relative&#8230;surely you know the corollary is that wrong is relative as well&#8230;if your truth is relative so in the heck is everything else.</p>
<p>So,please don&#39;t attempt to project some sanctimonious ominiscient superiority. </p>
<p>It is just plain unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha!...you label my interest prurient, when I attempt to discern your parameters for normal after you say if animals do it it is natural?  Please.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your pruient interest obviosuly includes animals copulating...and you claim I spread ignorance. O please.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then you call the act of penis penetration orifices as a &#039;state of grace&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lol lol...talk about truly deviant choices...truly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Deviant is not about choice, deviant is a specific factual term.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can have your opinions but you don&#039;t get to choose your own facts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Merry Christmas&lt;br&gt;hope you&lt;br&gt;achieve&lt;br&gt;your &lt;br&gt;state of grace!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha!&#8230;you label my interest prurient, when I attempt to discern your parameters for normal after you say if animals do it it is natural?  Please.</p>
<p>Your pruient interest obviosuly includes animals copulating&#8230;and you claim I spread ignorance. O please.</p>
<p>Then you call the act of penis penetration orifices as a &#39;state of grace&#39;</p>
<p>lol lol&#8230;talk about truly deviant choices&#8230;truly.</p>
<p>Deviant is not about choice, deviant is a specific factual term.</p>
<p>You can have your opinions but you don&#39;t get to choose your own facts.</p>
<p>Merry Christmas<br />hope you<br />achieve<br />your <br />state of grace!!</p>
<p>lol</p>
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