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]]> By: heartsandflowershttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-115136 heartsandflowers Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:17:12 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-115136 Except there is an openly gay white person in his administration. Using quotes from other people to make a point is just tired meme hijacking and not a real discussion anyway. Human Rights Campaign wrote that lame open letter but intentionally left out Joseph Lowery's participation because it would weaken their attempt at bashing. Except there is an openly gay white person in his administration. Using quotes from other people to make a point is just tired meme hijacking and not a real discussion anyway. Human Rights Campaign wrote that lame open letter but intentionally left out Joseph Lowery's participation because it would weaken their attempt at bashing.

]]> By: Denisehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-115070 Denise Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:13:03 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-115070 Not that this is anyone's business, but is Janet Napolitano married? Not that this is anyone's business, but is Janet Napolitano married?

]]> By: Michaelhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-115051 Michael Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:51:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-115051 Steve Elmendorf, a former deputy campaign manager for John Kerry and senior adviser to Dick Gephardt, called it “very disappointing” that a number of high-quality LGBT candidates had been passed over. “It’s a very diverse and inclusive cabinet for every community except for the gay and lesbian community,” he said.<br><br>Not that anyone’s counting, but the cabinet as announced/projected at present includes three Latinos, two Asian Americans, one African-American, three women, and, yes, two Republicans.<br><br>Elmendorf observed that the top-tier White House staff doesn’t appear to have any LGBT people in it either. “That just makes the Rick Warren thing an extra kick in the stomach,” he said.<br><br>Though Elmendorf sympathized with Obama’s big-tent argument about wanting to reach out to evangelicals through Rick Warren, he added, “but I don’t think [the Obama team] has sent any signals to the gay and lesbian community -- who voted for him overwhelmingly -- that they want to include them.”<br><br>The inaugural committee is touting the participation of the Lesbian and Gay Band Association in the inaugural parade as a symbol of inclusion. Steve Elmendorf, a former deputy campaign manager for John Kerry and senior adviser to Dick Gephardt, called it “very disappointing” that a number of high-quality LGBT candidates had been passed over. “It’s a very diverse and inclusive cabinet for every community except for the gay and lesbian community,” he said.

Not that anyone’s counting, but the cabinet as announced/projected at present includes three Latinos, two Asian Americans, one African-American, three women, and, yes, two Republicans.

Elmendorf observed that the top-tier White House staff doesn’t appear to have any LGBT people in it either. “That just makes the Rick Warren thing an extra kick in the stomach,” he said.

Though Elmendorf sympathized with Obama’s big-tent argument about wanting to reach out to evangelicals through Rick Warren, he added, “but I don’t think [the Obama team] has sent any signals to the gay and lesbian community — who voted for him overwhelmingly — that they want to include them.”

The inaugural committee is touting the participation of the Lesbian and Gay Band Association in the inaugural parade as a symbol of inclusion.

]]> By: Michellehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-114523 Michelle Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:26:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-114523 <i>And the operative word in what I stated was not access it was pleasure..which is not an object but a feeling.<br><br>People experience pleasure solely on their own, whether there is someone else experiencing it or not...their pleasure is theirs alone.</i><br><br>You write of sex in terms/analogies of experiencing pleasure as a disconnected individual.<br><br>I write of it as one possible mode of interaction and communication between real beings.<br><br>From my standpoint, you are overly obsessed with individual self, individual desire and feelings of pleasure when it comes to sex.<br><br>From my standpoint, you are overly focused on your own and other individual's feelings and desires, and you speak a world in which people relate to sex with each other as being about individual desire and pleasure rather than communication and interaction.<br><br><i>You are one sick demented person all because of your sexual desires.</i><br><br>You are deeply obsessed with what you claim and imagine are "my" sexual desires. <br><br>Again, pretending it's about the gender of who I am with serves as cover for and diversion from the distorted twisted way you perceive and write about sex.<br><br><i>All you wish to do as I said previously is demean me.</i><br><br>I think that what actually demeans you is the sickness you carry about what sex is and your choice to hide it under this other topic. I think that would demean you whether I (or anyone else) pointed it out or not. And the operative word in what I stated was not access it was pleasure..which is not an object but a feeling.

People experience pleasure solely on their own, whether there is someone else experiencing it or not…their pleasure is theirs alone.

You write of sex in terms/analogies of experiencing pleasure as a disconnected individual.

I write of it as one possible mode of interaction and communication between real beings.

From my standpoint, you are overly obsessed with individual self, individual desire and feelings of pleasure when it comes to sex.

From my standpoint, you are overly focused on your own and other individual's feelings and desires, and you speak a world in which people relate to sex with each other as being about individual desire and pleasure rather than communication and interaction.

You are one sick demented person all because of your sexual desires.

You are deeply obsessed with what you claim and imagine are “my” sexual desires.

Again, pretending it's about the gender of who I am with serves as cover for and diversion from the distorted twisted way you perceive and write about sex.

All you wish to do as I said previously is demean me.

I think that what actually demeans you is the sickness you carry about what sex is and your choice to hide it under this other topic. I think that would demean you whether I (or anyone else) pointed it out or not.

]]> By: Acts Of Faith Bloghttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-502123 Acts Of Faith Blog Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:50:00 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-502123 You're trying to change the conversation not me. I will ask this of every person who wants to hold a moral superiority clause over another. You made a comment about not wanting to leave a child in the care of a gay person on the basis of living life the "wrong" way. So what about all the kids being born out of wedlock to straight people, the bad parenting, the sperm donors who don't father their kids and all the unmarried sex? What about the physical intimidation women have to protect themselves from just walking down the street in the average Black neighborhood? What about all the rapes that occur that go unreported or when it is like in R Kelly's case you have a bunch of women defending a child molester? If you're going to make moral proclamations then do it across the board! These are far more deadly to Blacks than this big gay boogeyman straw hat argument. Black people have to take responsibility for all of it and their homophobia under guise of religiosity. We are also in murky water when some of us gleefully support our preferences as absolute truths against other Blacks like with colorism which is akin shade racism or against gays. It is what white people have done to us. We won't have a leg to stand on in protest. I understand that you and others are not going to be accepting of homosexuality but I don't have to be silent any more than you do and I will continue to engage where I see you and others being devisive. Without people like Bayard Rustin and Barbara Jordan we wouldn't be enjoying most of the civil rights and freedoms to even be having this conversation! You’re trying to change the conversation not me. I will ask this of every person who wants to hold a moral superiority clause over another. You made a comment about not wanting to leave a child in the care of a gay person on the basis of living life the “wrong” way. So what about all the kids being born out of wedlock to straight people, the bad parenting, the sperm donors who don’t father their kids and all the unmarried sex? What about the physical intimidation women have to protect themselves from just walking down the street in the average Black neighborhood? What about all the rapes that occur that go unreported or when it is like in R Kelly’s case you have a bunch of women defending a child molester? If you’re going to make moral proclamations then do it across the board! These are far more deadly to Blacks than this big gay boogeyman straw hat argument. Black people have to take responsibility for all of it and their homophobia under guise of religiosity. We are also in murky water when some of us gleefully support our preferences as absolute truths against other Blacks like with colorism which is akin shade racism or against gays. It is what white people have done to us. We won’t have a leg to stand on in protest. I understand that you and others are not going to be accepting of homosexuality but I don’t have to be silent any more than you do and I will continue to engage where I see you and others being devisive. Without people like Bayard Rustin and Barbara Jordan we wouldn’t be enjoying most of the civil rights and freedoms to even be having this conversation!

]]> By: jonhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-114477 jon Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:01:30 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-114477 Fair enough, poor phrasing on my part. Fair enough, poor phrasing on my part.

]]> By: CraigHickmanhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-114473 CraigHickman Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:55:21 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-114473 Stop it.<br><br>There is to LGBTQ community "as a whole" just like there's no Black community "as a whole" and some of us belong to both, even as BOTH embarrass us deeply at times. Stop it.

There is to LGBTQ community “as a whole” just like there's no Black community “as a whole” and some of us belong to both, even as BOTH embarrass us deeply at times.

]]> By: CraigHickmanhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-114470 CraigHickman Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:45:34 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-114470 It's been done.<br><br><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-hirshman/we-call-on-you-lord-leake_b_152476.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-hirshman/we...</a> It's been done.

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]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/should-the-purpose-driven-preacher-pray-over-the-potus/comment-page-2/#comment-114467 whiterosebuddy Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:26:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=5531#comment-114467 O my...you are so deluded that you think you can decide what is truth? <br>Your type of delusional paranoid self absorbed confusion does not merit a response.<br><br>All you wish to do as I said previously is demean me.<br><br>You are one sick demented person all because of your sexual desires.<br><br>Unbelievable.<br><br>I will respond if you chose to not agree to disagree..don't think you will silence me.<br><br>And the operative word in what I stated was not access it was pleasure..which is not an object but a feeling.<br><br>People experience pleasure solely on their own, whether there is someone else experiencing it or not...their pleasure is theirs alone.<br><br>Geez. O my…you are so deluded that you think you can decide what is truth?
Your type of delusional paranoid self absorbed confusion does not merit a response.

All you wish to do as I said previously is demean me.

You are one sick demented person all because of your sexual desires.

Unbelievable.

I will respond if you chose to not agree to disagree..don't think you will silence me.

And the operative word in what I stated was not access it was pleasure..which is not an object but a feeling.

People experience pleasure solely on their own, whether there is someone else experiencing it or not…their pleasure is theirs alone.

Geez.

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