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		<title>By: Lilytiger</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159713</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilytiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do speak the truth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess what is happening is that Obama is being blamed for every ill that has befallen this country by, what appears to many of us , the same people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clintonistas. The wording, the arguments, the tone and tactics. I am sure there are many who are newly upset but really, it is hard to find someone who will give a prayer that isn&#039;t against gay marriage. If he did chose that  person then there would be another argument on his making a political and divisive statement on a day for all Americans. And it would comprise of right wingers and Clintonistas. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So as I believe in human rights I say that the day we can have a non christian give the prayer then it will really be a great day for religious rights. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See, there is no pleasing everyone. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still, we do need to dial down the sweeping statements but we can point out the very vocal subgroup and comparisons they are making that don&#039;t ring true or right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do speak the truth.</p>
<p>I guess what is happening is that Obama is being blamed for every ill that has befallen this country by, what appears to many of us , the same people.</p>
<p>Clintonistas. The wording, the arguments, the tone and tactics. I am sure there are many who are newly upset but really, it is hard to find someone who will give a prayer that isn&#39;t against gay marriage. If he did chose that  person then there would be another argument on his making a political and divisive statement on a day for all Americans. And it would comprise of right wingers and Clintonistas. </p>
<p>So as I believe in human rights I say that the day we can have a non christian give the prayer then it will really be a great day for religious rights. </p>
<p>See, there is no pleasing everyone. </p>
<p>Still, we do need to dial down the sweeping statements but we can point out the very vocal subgroup and comparisons they are making that don&#39;t ring true or right.</p>
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		<title>By: patatsea</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159711</link>
		<dc:creator>patatsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on the back of the bus comments, and especially the &quot;Gay is the new black&quot; ones, but I feel like I have to defend the use of separate but equal because- what other way is there to describe civil unions?  Straight people get marriage, gay people get civil unions.  Separate institutions that are in theory equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m with you on the back of the bus comments, and especially the &#8220;Gay is the new black&#8221; ones, but I feel like I have to defend the use of separate but equal because- what other way is there to describe civil unions?  Straight people get marriage, gay people get civil unions.  Separate institutions that are in theory equal.</p>
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		<title>By: patatsea</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159712</link>
		<dc:creator>patatsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t tar us all with the same brush.  SOME homosexuals are some of the biggest racists, yes I&#039;d agree with that, just like some heterosexuals are some of the biggest racists, but don&#039;t refer to the community like its a monolithic racist group, because that is just insulting, especially to those of us who have to navigate both queer and minority communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#39;t tar us all with the same brush.  SOME homosexuals are some of the biggest racists, yes I&#39;d agree with that, just like some heterosexuals are some of the biggest racists, but don&#39;t refer to the community like its a monolithic racist group, because that is just insulting, especially to those of us who have to navigate both queer and minority communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159715</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell it, Oxygirl!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell it, Oxygirl!</p>
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		<title>By: adriana01</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159709</link>
		<dc:creator>adriana01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw it for the second time this Saturday. It was great! I give it my thumbs up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw it for the second time this Saturday. It was great! I give it my thumbs up!</p>
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		<title>By: oxygirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159714</link>
		<dc:creator>oxygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can hide your gayness, you cannot hide your race.  You blanch over the struggles of blacks in this country and expect sympathy for gaining the right to marry?  I really don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can hide your gayness, you cannot hide your race.  You blanch over the struggles of blacks in this country and expect sympathy for gaining the right to marry?  I really don&#39;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159710</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you check your email?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you check your email?</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-159708</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. My. God.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;***Sigh****  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Miranda, did you see that?? OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. My. God.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>***Sigh****  </p>
<p>Miranda, did you see that?? OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lilytiger</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114973</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilytiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do speak the truth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess what is happening is that Obama is being blamed for every ill that has befallen this country by, what appears to many of us , the same people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clintonistas. The wording, the arguments, the tone and tactics. I am sure there are many who are newly upset but really, it is hard to find someone who will give a prayer that isn&#039;t against gay marriage. If he did chose that  person then there would be another argument on his making a political and divisive statement on a day for all Americans. And it would comprise of right wingers and Clintonistas. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So as I believe in human rights I say that the day we can have a non christian give the prayer then it will really be a great day for religious rights. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See, there is no pleasing everyone. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still, we do need to dial down the sweeping statements but we can point out the very vocal subgroup and comparisons they are making that don&#039;t ring true or right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do speak the truth.</p>
<p>I guess what is happening is that Obama is being blamed for every ill that has befallen this country by, what appears to many of us , the same people.</p>
<p>Clintonistas. The wording, the arguments, the tone and tactics. I am sure there are many who are newly upset but really, it is hard to find someone who will give a prayer that isn&#39;t against gay marriage. If he did chose that  person then there would be another argument on his making a political and divisive statement on a day for all Americans. And it would comprise of right wingers and Clintonistas. </p>
<p>So as I believe in human rights I say that the day we can have a non christian give the prayer then it will really be a great day for religious rights. </p>
<p>See, there is no pleasing everyone. </p>
<p>Still, we do need to dial down the sweeping statements but we can point out the very vocal subgroup and comparisons they are making that don&#39;t ring true or right.</p>
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		<title>By: patatsea</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114968</link>
		<dc:creator>patatsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on the back of the bus comments, and especially the &quot;Gay is the new black&quot; ones, but I feel like I have to defend the use of separate but equal because- what other way is there to describe civil unions?  Straight people get marriage, gay people get civil unions.  Separate institutions that are in theory equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m with you on the back of the bus comments, and especially the &#8220;Gay is the new black&#8221; ones, but I feel like I have to defend the use of separate but equal because- what other way is there to describe civil unions?  Straight people get marriage, gay people get civil unions.  Separate institutions that are in theory equal.</p>
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		<title>By: patatsea</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114964</link>
		<dc:creator>patatsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t tar us all with the same brush.  SOME homosexuals are some of the biggest racists, yes I&#039;d agree with that, just like some heterosexuals are some of the biggest racists, but don&#039;t refer to the community like its a monolithic racist group, because that is just insulting, especially to those of us who have to navigate both queer and minority communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#39;t tar us all with the same brush.  SOME homosexuals are some of the biggest racists, yes I&#39;d agree with that, just like some heterosexuals are some of the biggest racists, but don&#39;t refer to the community like its a monolithic racist group, because that is just insulting, especially to those of us who have to navigate both queer and minority communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114962</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell it, Oxygirl!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell it, Oxygirl!</p>
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		<title>By: adriana</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114953</link>
		<dc:creator>adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw it for the second time this Saturday. It was great! I give it my thumbs up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw it for the second time this Saturday. It was great! I give it my thumbs up!</p>
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		<title>By: oxygirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114942</link>
		<dc:creator>oxygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can hide your gayness, you cannot hide your race.  You blanch over the struggles of blacks in this country and expect sympathy for gaining the right to marry?  I really don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can hide your gayness, you cannot hide your race.  You blanch over the struggles of blacks in this country and expect sympathy for gaining the right to marry?  I really don&#39;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114909</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you check your email?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you check your email?</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114905</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. My. God.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;***Sigh****  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Miranda, did you see that?? OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. My. God.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>***Sigh****  </p>
<p>Miranda, did you see that?? OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114900</link>
		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check your email. :-)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check your email. :-)))</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114894</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t make sense because if a black is able to pass, they ususally don&#039;t suffer from discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#39;t make sense because if a black is able to pass, they ususally don&#39;t suffer from discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114891</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that is like saying that 99.9% of blacks need the  same &#039;protected class&#039; because they can&#039;t pass, and Miranda itemized ways in which they can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that is like saying that 99.9% of blacks need the  same &#39;protected class&#39; because they can&#39;t pass, and Miranda itemized ways in which they can&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/saturday-open-thread-24/comment-page-4/#comment-114889</link>
		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a known fact that homosexuals are some of the biggest racist. The gay scene has lots of &#039;separate but equal&#039; theatre groups, restaurants, bars, and networking ...where folks of color are looked at with disdain and are treated dismissively if not derisively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a known fact that homosexuals are some of the biggest racist. The gay scene has lots of &#39;separate but equal&#39; theatre groups, restaurants, bars, and networking &#8230;where folks of color are looked at with disdain and are treated dismissively if not derisively.</p>
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